Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-16 Thread Robert Atkinson
Me too, Didn't say anything before to keep the noise down.   Robert G8RPI. From: Alan Melia alan.me...@btinternet.com To: time-nuts measurement time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013, 0:40 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release Bert  I am

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-16 Thread REEVES Paul
: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release Alan You may suggest something to time nuts, looking at the response I doubt it and ask my self why did three of us spend three weeks to fully check it out and fix some of the code. Will reflect future projects. Bert Kehren In a message dated 4/12/2013 8:39

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-16 Thread REEVES Paul
measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release Bert, I certainly appreciate all the work that has gone into the latest code. I learnt a lot from Brook's original (1.33) and modified it to suit my 'peculiar' hardware. I've only had time for a short look at the latest but I'm sure

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread EWKehren
Alan You may suggest something to time nuts, looking at the response I doubt it and ask my self why did three of us spend three weeks to fully check it out and fix some of the code. Will reflect future projects. Bert Kehren In a message dated 4/12/2013 8:39:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread David McGaw
Hi Bert, Just because there was not much response to this inquiry does not mean that your efforts are not appreciated. Considering how many requested the earlier code (many in person to myself) I expect your work is VERY MUCH appreciated. Thank you, David On 4/15/13 3:17 PM,

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 04/15/2013 10:00 PM, David McGaw wrote: Hi Bert, Just because there was not much response to this inquiry does not mean that your efforts are not appreciated. Considering how many requested the earlier code (many in person to myself) I expect your work is VERY MUCH appreciated. I for one

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hi Bert, I do fully support David's opinion, I appreciate very much all the past and future work on this subject like all other developments in the group, so please don't stop, it made me happy when I got the code list in your past mail! Thank you very much, regards, Arnold, DK2WT am

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread Alan Melia
, April 15, 2013 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release Alan You may suggest something to time nuts, looking at the response I doubt it and ask my self why did three of us spend three weeks to fully check it out and fix some of the code. Will reflect future projects. Bert Kehren

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread Alan Melia
Bert I am grateful for the work you and friends have done. Is there any way we can add our names to some expression of thanks from members of the Group to his widow Karen and her helpers for their work in making the checked source code for the GPSDO available to us and maybe leave a token of

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera thanks options

2013-04-15 Thread Chris Howard
and expertise the Group provides..and it is nice to be able to say so, and salute the work Brooks did. Thanks and Best Wishes Alan Melia (G3NYK) - Original Message - From: ewkeh...@aol.com To: time-nuts@febo.com Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 8:17 PM Subject: Re: [time-nuts

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-15 Thread EB4APL
Bert, As one of Brooks customers I would like to express my thanks to him for his generous work (fortunately I did it when we contacted in early 2009), and also now to thank you and the others who made possible to finally have his code, including the efforts to fix and test it. And of course

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-12 Thread paul swed
Bert Thank you for working to share Brooks code with the time-nuts. Regards Paul. On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:28 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Attached is Brooks Shera’s final source code and hex file. As a reminder in all of his released code Brooks requested that any use of his code be

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-12 Thread Arnold Tibus
Gentlemen, this is a very good note, many thanks for this very interesting information and the work behind! I will try to implement the new code and a new processor without mistakes from my side. Regards, Arnold, DK2WT Am 12.04.2013 20:28, schrieb ewkeh...@aol.com: Attached is Brooks

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera ASM release

2013-04-12 Thread Alan Melia
Bert is there any way we can add our names to some expression of thanks to his widow Karen and her helpers for their work and maybe leave a remembrance of his worldwide friends for his family? Thanks for your efforts Best wishes Alan Melia (G3NYK) UK - Original Message - From:

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-28 Thread Magnus Danielson
On 03/26/2013 01:35 AM, Bruce Griffiths wrote: Richard H McCorkle wrote: Hi Tom, In the Shera design the instability of the XO timebase is a key factor in improving the 30-second update resolution. With the XO drift varying the sample point across the 1PPS and 312.5 KHz edges the samples are

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-26 Thread Bob Camp
Hi One very important thing to consider when looking at this design - it was done in the era of selective availability. That provided a lot dither all by it's self. Bob On Mar 25, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Richard H McCorkle mccor...@ptialaska.net wrote: Bob, You are preaching to the choir and

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 00:43:02 -0400 Daniel Schultz n8...@usa.net wrote: Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him. Definitly a sad day Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been superseded by something newer? That highly

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
I think Brooks' design is worth studying. It is simple enough and uses 20 year old technology so even use old folks can follow how it works. Then you go off and build something else using current parts I have one of those cheaper Rb units too. But you set them by sending a command over the

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread WB6BNQ
Chris, Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5 including shipping ? Thank you, BillWB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: snip I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad. But basically the same over all ideas he used. At $5 each with shipping included TI is losing

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Dimitry Borzenko
and frequency measurement; Chris Albertson Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera Chris, Can you point me to the web site where the TI Launch Pad is sold for $5 including shipping ? Thank you, BillWB6BNQ Chris Albertson wrote: snip I plan to use a $5 TI Launch Pad. But basically the same

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread EWKehren
Brooks GPSDO may be 15 years old but is still perfect for today's applications. If you look at tvb's Tbolt plot or Ulrich's plots with and without sawtooth correction for a day or two the limit is GPS. The basic unit has a resolution of 1.73 E-13 in mode 7. Brooks uses a 40 bit filter. I

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
The lack of synchronisers when crossing clock domains is a design flaw that should be corrected. Bruce ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Brooks GPSDO may be 15 years old but is still perfect for today's applications. If you look at tvb's Tbolt plot or Ulrich's plots with and without sawtooth correction

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread EWKehren
Bruce, would you mind being more specific and offer a solution. Thanks Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/25/2013 7:09:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz writes: The lack of synchronisers when crossing clock domains is a design flaw that should be corrected. Bruce

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:53:40 -0400 (EDT) ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/25/2013 7:09:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz writes: The lack of synchronisers when crossing clock domains is a design flaw that should be corrected. Bruce, would you

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Jim Lux
On 3/24/13 8:22 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:34 PM, EB4APL eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es wrote: I wanted to build a GPSDO using the Brooks Shera design since I read the QST article. I asked him in Jan 2009 about his source code, because I wanted to change the PIC to a

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Tom Van Baak
The lack of synchronisers when crossing clock domains is a design flaw that should be corrected. Bruce I think with these it becomes obvious where the problem lies and what the solution is. Attila Kinali I realize there are many cases where clock domain considerations are important.

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread David Kirkby
On 25 March 2013 13:36, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 3/24/13 8:22 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: This is a perfect example of why people need to publish the source. Make it GPL or whatever. That's a decision that the author gets to make. I've been on both the supplier and consumer

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 5:44 AM, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 07:53:40 -0400 (EDT) ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 3/25/2013 7:09:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, bruce.griffi...@xtra.co.nz writes: The lack of synchronisers when crossing clock domains

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: The algorithms are well known and understood, and not very complex. Perhaps starting from scratch wouldn't be a bad thing if you're going to an entirely new platform. They are well known to people who already know. If you

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
A system like that would protect the author, but ensure that in the event of their death, the code is public. That license could be GPL, freeware of whatever else the author choses. I suspect Brooks Shera would have agreed to do something like that. We don't have to guess. Brooks wrote near

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Bob Camp
] On Behalf Of David Kirkby Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 10:53 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera On 25 March 2013 13:36, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: On 3/24/13 8:22 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: This is a perfect example of why

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Javier Serrano
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 2:56 PM, Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: I realize there are many cases where clock domain considerations are important. But why does it matter in a device that is simply doing long-term 1PPS statistical sampling? Could one of you clock domain specialists

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 06:56:30 -0700 Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: I think with these it becomes obvious where the problem lies and what the solution is. I realize there are many cases where clock domain considerations are important. But why does it matter in a device that is

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread David McGaw
Actually, most modern FFs are hardened against metastability so often a single synchronizer will do especially if it is feeding a synchronous circuit. David On 3/25/13 1:56 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 06:56:30 -0700 Tom Van Baak t...@leapsecond.com wrote: I think with

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:56:34 +0100 Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: Because of this, the behaviour of the counter is undefined and can lead not only to missing one count (which would be caught by the PI control loop as additional noise), but the output of the D-flip flops in the counter

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Arnold Tibus
Hello, I am deeply affected by Brookes Shera' s death. Years ago I had only a few mail-contacts with him and he's been very helpful and friendly. I believe that he would have assisted to introduce improvements and further details in his design if he would have been able to. He did provide me

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 09:23:21 -0700 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 6:36 AM, Jim Lux jim...@earthlink.net wrote: The algorithms are well known and understood, and not very complex. Perhaps starting from scratch wouldn't be a bad thing if you're going

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
Ie the output of the counter becomes (more or less) random. Which in turn means the lower 4 bit of the input to the PI control loop are wrong[1]. Or in terms of time, we might be off by +/-2^4*42ns=672ns, which is a major hit against the PI loop (like knocking it with a sledge hammer). But

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 14:03:23 -0400 David McGaw n1...@alum.dartmouth.org wrote: Actually, most modern FFs are hardened against metastability so often a single synchronizer will do especially if it is feeding a synchronous circuit. I would not count on that. Most 74xx that hobbyists use are

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Attila Kinali
On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:18:06 -0700 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Ie the output of the counter becomes (more or less) random. Which in turn means the lower 4 bit of the input to the PI control loop are wrong[1]. Or in terms of time, we might be off by +/-2^4*42ns=672ns,

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Scott McGrath
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Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread David McGaw
Minimum clock width is not the window for metastability. That is usually 10s to 100s of picoseconds. On 3/25/13 3:20 PM, Attila Kinali wrote: On Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:18:06 -0700 Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: Ie the output of the counter becomes (more or less) random.

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
There are essentially 4 clock domains in the circuit 1) PPS 2) Divided down 10MHz (~300kHz) 3) 24 MHz 4) The microprocessor internal clock ( the micro probably has internal synchronisers for at least some external inputs). Depending on internal delays and jitter this may be regarded as

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Albertson
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM, Attila Kinali att...@kinali.ch wrote: The PPS signal is not sent direct to the 74HC4520. The PPS first drives Phase Detector 3 that is built into the 4046 chip. this is an RS flip flop. Notice it is RS3 OUT that drives the 4520.RS3 uses both the PPS signal

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread David McGaw
I have version 1.34a that he sent me in 2008. In light of his wishes, please contact me directly if you would like a copy. David On 3/24/13 7:12 AM, Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) wrote: Here's a copy of the source package (that claims to be for version 1.28) that he sent me when I enquired about

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi The gotcha with using the XO as a spreading source is the hanging bridge issue. As long as temperature (or what ever) is constantly changing the XO all the averaging stuff works out. A GPS with a sawtooth output (and no correction) is doing the same thing. The problem comes in when the XO

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread EWKehren
As to the latest code Brooks did not release compiled or ASM code. Prior codes where released with an agreement. In due time his wife Karen Stoll will make a decision that will satisfy time nuts. Stay tuned. Bert Kehren In a message dated 3/25/2013 6:13:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Hi Tom, In the Shera design the instability of the XO timebase is a key factor in improving the 30-second update resolution. With the XO drift varying the sample point across the 1PPS and 312.5 KHz edges the samples are constantly varying and the average of the samples has a resolution much

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Bruce Griffiths
Richard H McCorkle wrote: Hi Tom, In the Shera design the instability of the XO timebase is a key factor in improving the 30-second update resolution. With the XO drift varying the sample point across the 1PPS and 312.5 KHz edges the samples are constantly varying and the average of the samples

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Bob Camp
Hi Using the GPS sawtooth as a source of randomness is dangerous. It can stop moving for minutes at a time if the conditions happen to be just right (or in this case wrong). Of course lack of randomization isn't your only problem when this happens. The (likely substantial) offset in the data

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-25 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Bob, You are preaching to the choir and although Brooks felt that using an XO and asynchronous gating to improve the resolution was sufficient and GPS sawtooth correction was not needed with the long averaging times in his controller that doesn't mean that I agreed. The early work I did just

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) step...@tompsett.net wrote: Here's a copy of the source package (that claims to be for version 1.28) that he sent me when I enquired about it many years ago. That's great. It needs to be some how linked to an archive of his article. No

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread lists
measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 4:12 AM, Stephen Tompsett (G8LYB) step...@tompsett.net wrote: Here's a copy of the source package (that claims

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread WB6BNQ
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Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread lists
Uh WTF. I am preserving his legacy. -Original Message- From: WB6BNQ wb6...@cox.net Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 16:38:06 To: li...@lazygranch.com; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurementtime-nuts@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera Really ? Well   li

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread WB6BNQ
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Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread EB4APL
I wanted to build a GPSDO using the Brooks Shera design since I read the QST article. I asked him in Jan 2009 about his source code, because I wanted to change the PIC to a more modern one and add some functionality, and his response was that he already had changed it to a 16F876A and added a

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 7:34 PM, EB4APL eb4...@cembreros.jazztel.es wrote: I wanted to build a GPSDO using the Brooks Shera design since I read the QST article. I asked him in Jan 2009 about his source code, because I wanted to change the PIC to a more modern one and add some functionality

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-24 Thread Daniel Schultz
Another great ham passes on, I'm sorry I never had a chance to meet him. Is the GPS controller that Brooks published still useful today, or has it been superseded by something newer? I have a Motorola GPS receiver (PVT-6) with 1 pps output, and an HP oscillator (model number escapes me at the

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-23 Thread Joseph Gray
Sad news. I wonder if his web pages will survive him. If not, the Internet Archive has archived the information. The latest is at: http://web.archive.org/web/20120823060601/http://www.rt66.com/~shera/ Joe Gray W5JG On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Brooks Shera passed

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-23 Thread Magnus Danielson
Bert, On 03/23/2013 08:48 PM, ewkeh...@aol.com wrote: Brooks Shera passed away last Saturday. There will be an obituary published tomorrow in the Santa Fe New Mexican. It should also be available online. As I have mentioned in the past I credit him with making available to time nuts, radio

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-23 Thread Chris Albertson
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: Sad news. I wonder if his web pages will survive him. If not, the Internet Archive has archived the information. The latest is at: http://web.archive.org/web/20120823060601/http://www.rt66.com/~shera/ The webarchive seems to

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-23 Thread J. L. Trantham
Bert, Sorry to hear that. He was very kind to help me with my first 'Shera Board' with parts and helping to get it up and working with an HP 105B. I wrote a note to his wife a couple of months ago. I agree with your thoughts. He went out of his way to help a stranger and I appreciate it. Joe

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2013-03-23 Thread lists
@febo.com Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:41 PM, Joseph Gray jg...@zianet.com wrote: Sad news. I wonder if his web pages will survive him. If not, the Internet Archive has archived the information. The latest is at: http://web.archive.org/web/20120823060601/http

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread paul swed
Bert A thought has crossed my mind here. His wife can not access his computer. If its windows XP or earlier the password is recoverable. I use a boot cd that exposes all. Its been helpful. Is there a way to reach out and offer help aside from snail mail? Would she be open to that help? Regards

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread Lizeth Norman
He worked at LANL. Might be other stuff in there... On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 9:15 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Bert A thought has crossed my mind here. His wife can not access his computer. If its windows XP or earlier the password is recoverable. I use a boot cd that exposes all.

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread Kevin Rosenberg
If needed, I can provide some local help. Karen's address is a short drive from my home. Kevin On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Bert A thought has crossed my mind here. His wife can not access his computer. If its windows XP or earlier the password is

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread Robert Darlington
Ditto on that. I'm up in Los Alamos. Getting into computers is my specialty. -Bob On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Kevin Rosenberg ke...@rosenberg.netwrote: If needed, I can provide some local help. Karen's address is a short drive from my home. Kevin On Dec 21, 2012, at 7:15 AM, paul

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread EWKehren
I will contact her and see mybe she may also need help to dispose of hardware and we can arrange a sale. Bert In a message dated 12/21/2012 9:15:56 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, paulsw...@gmail.com writes: Bert A thought has crossed my mind here. His wife can not access his computer. If

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread EWKehren
I have send an email and will find out what help she would accept, but there is time when a snail mail is very powerful, and I again encourage all of you to take the time to write a snail mail note. Maybe he can still recognize it, but putting my self in Karen's place it will lighten her

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Albertson
I just had this same problem, a computer owned by some one who had passed away. One dose not even need to know or recover the password. Simply remove the hard drive and place it on another computer and you will have access to all the files, copy over what is needed, re-format the drive, then put

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread David Kirkby
On 21 December 2012 18:11, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: I think whatthis says is that if you've worked hard to make a design available to others and you don't intend to sell it commercially, PUBLISH the details, the design files and the source code. Yes I kknow it is

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread paul swed
Kind of defocusing here. I think the thread is about possibly helping to release the shera v4.02 software. Several folks appear to be local to Brooks wife and may be able to help her recover information she may need in general and if we are lucky allow the software to be at least gathered. Regards

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread John Ackermann N8UR
And folks, please respect Brooks' privacy -- remember that this list is archived in many places on the web. John paul swed said the following on 12/21/2012 04:06 PM: Kind of defocusing here. I think the thread is about possibly helping to release the shera v4.02 software. Several folks

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread EWKehren
John I send my posting to Mrs. Stoll for approval prior to posting. Lets try not to start the usual arguments. Brooks deserves better. Bert Kehren In a message dated 12/21/2012 4:28:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, j...@febo.com writes: And folks, please respect Brooks' privacy --

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-21 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message CANX10hAW2Ad0w=_mnvoijnej4_fm0tnwkejohd7n154_jbw...@mail.gmail.com , David Kirkby writes: On 21 December 2012 18:11, Chris Albertson albertson.ch...@gmail.com wrote: That said, some of the code that people release, and gets circulated annoys me. Take a look at this unix

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-19 Thread EWKehren
Some how time nuts combined two lines it is Karen Stoll46 Crazy Rabbit Rd Santa Fee, NM 87508 In a message dated 12/19/2012 3:55:33 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, ewkeh...@aol.com writes: Brooks Shera has been a major contributor with his GPSDO. Before Tbolts where

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-19 Thread paul swed
Bert Thank you for reaching out to Brook and his wife. I agree that the QST article that Brook wrote really did change the capabilities that Amateur time keepers and Radio Operators have access to. I am very sad to hear the reason why he has been un-responsive. Thanks again for sharing this sad

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2012-12-19 Thread Azelio Boriani
The 1998 Shera QST article was also my first reading about GPSDO. In 1999 we were using the Epsilon OEM board GPSDO from Temex for the first terrestrial DVB single frequency network trials. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:33 PM, paul swed paulsw...@gmail.com wrote: Bert Thank you for reaching out

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2007-10-03 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY David Hopkins wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I had an email reply from him a couple of months ago. Reply was less than 24 Hours. A couple of weeks ago I needed a PIC for his

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2007-10-03 Thread Peter Lacey
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera David Hopkins wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I had an email reply from him a couple of months ago. Reply was less than 24 Hours. A couple of weeks ago I

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2007-10-03 Thread Rex
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY Peter Lacey wrote: The source is at: http://www.leapsecond.com/pages/ppsdiv/?C=N;O=A Peter Lacey AA1ZU I have seen that code before. I believe that is simply a divider by TVB. The code I was asking about is the code

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2007-10-03 Thread Brooke Clarke
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rex Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:35 AM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera David Hopkins wrote: ); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I had an email

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera

2007-10-03 Thread Tom Van Baak
); SAEximRunCond expanded to false Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] RETRY I have seen that code before. I believe that is simply a divider by TVB. The code I was asking about is the code Brooks Shera wrote for his GPS disciplined controller. It implements a lot more number crunching, I think.

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help

2007-01-20 Thread Jason Rabel
I think I have tried pretty much every suggestion everyone has given me, and probed every pin I was told to. If I had a digital storage scope life would be much easier, but I'm doing the best I can with what I got. Still trying to track down my problem, it seems like the counter at U4 is

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help

2007-01-18 Thread Jason Rabel
Checked both U1-2 U2-1, I am getting the 5 MHz / 0 to 5V square wave. It's not the nicest looking, but my counter reads it fine. Maybe this could be a problem? http://www.rabel.org/archives/Images/Misc/5MHz_Square.jpg Yes, U3-15 has the GPS PPS pulse, I can't see it on my scope but I can see

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help

2007-01-17 Thread Jason Rabel
Checked that today, getting 315.5KHz (AA Board - P3 pins 12 jumpered). I pulled all the chips, just to make sure I didn't have any bent/broken pins. Reflowed every pin on the board so there would be no doubt in my mind that there were any bad joints. Replaced chips Same problem I've been

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help

2007-01-16 Thread Richard H McCorkle
Jason, What divider output are you using? The typical input to the phase detector should be between 312.5KHz and 625KHz and an appropriate jumper has to be installed on the divider header on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] board to tie the selected divider output to the phase detector. Sounds like you

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help

2007-01-15 Thread Jason Rabel
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help First, take your OXCO, heat it up, and use just a pot for the 0 to 6 volt control range. Find out what control voltage is needed for the proper frequency. The DAC can't achieve lock

Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help

2007-01-15 Thread Brooke Clarke
else. Jason -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Hawkins Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:58 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Brooks Shera GPS Controller Help First, take your OXCO