Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-13 Thread Tim Landscheidt
Michael Lechner schrieb: [...] saying a newsgroup is a bad idea, mostly because many people don't have access to newsgroups because of firewalls, proxies, and such). This might be true for a discussion list about fruits ... I would however expect people, writing programms in JSP/JAVA or

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Williamson, James
Title: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? Please help!! Time to add my two cents, my thoughts are this list needs to be moderated as the pollution of utter ignorance/laziness/repeat posters/please helps is way out of control (strictly IMHO). So what about a moderated list

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Wolle
users super group, 5 stupid postings and you're out... Then again I think I'm getting a bit too tongue in cheek. Regards, James -Original Message- From: Milt Epstein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 07 June 2001 00:19 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Gary Dale
Your points are well taken. However, in defence of newsgroups, this is a high-volume list that I think would be better handled as a newsgroup. 1) I think a lot of people aren't able to stay in the list continually due to the volume. There's a lot of subscribe, unsubscribe going on for people

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Will England
Good points. 1) Google now has Usenet reading and posting. Anyone with port 80 and a GUI browser can read / post to Usenet. 2) So, Gary, are you going to read the FAQ about creating a newsgroup and hold the vote? All you have to do is post a RFD, wait, post a CFV, wait, count the votes and

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Michael Lechner
[...] in defence of newsgroups, this is a high-volume list that I think would be better handled as a newsgroup. I agree!! Should we start voting now ? ;-) 1) I think a lot of people aren't able to stay in the list continually due to the volume. There's a lot of subscribe, unsubscribe

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Milt Epstein
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gary Dale wrote: Your points are well taken. However, in defence of newsgroups, this is a high-volume list that I think would be better handled as a newsgroup. 1) I think a lot of people aren't able to stay in the list continually due to the volume. There's a lot of

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Jim Cheesman
At 04:17 PM 07/06/01, you wrote: Good points. 1) Google now has Usenet reading and posting. Anyone with port 80 and a GUI browser can read / post to Usenet. And internet access. I don't. -- * Jim Cheesman * Trabajo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Gary Dale
Maybe I should, but Milt Epstein is correct in that it would be presumptious of someone who is not a regular on this listserve to try to make major changes to it. I'll follow your advice about reading up on the process anyway. I've gotten into the habit of checking newsgroups for answers

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-07 Thread Milt Epstein
On Thu, 7 Jun 2001, Gary Dale wrote: Maybe I should, but Milt Epstein is correct in that it would be presumptious of someone who is not a regular on this listserve to try to make major changes to it. Actually this brings up an issue: What constitutes being a regular on this list, and how

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Jann VanOver
have links to FAQ, info on unsubscribing, and list archives. This sounds much less labor intensive than moderating. -Original Message- From: Hemant Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Should we do moderation

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Aral Balkan
I agree with your idea When after downloading most of the files are asking how to unsubscribe, duplicate mails, lab, lab it really pains How abt dividing this group into several parts, Like one for tomcat configuration - Servlet prblems, etc It is a shame that there is not a 'filter' to

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Swart, James (Jim) ** CTR **
wowsers. That's a good idea. -Original Message- From: Jann VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:18 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? Umm, wouldn't dividing the groups just give us MORE off topic

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Gary Dale
PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? Umm, wouldn't dividing the groups just give us MORE off topic problems? If someone WANTS the job of moderating the hundreds of post in this list they can, but I am not going to volunteer. I think some kind

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Jann VanOver
moderation on this mailinglist?? wowsers. That's a good idea. -Original Message- From: Jann VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:18 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? Umm, wouldn't dividing the groups just

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Michael Wentzel
FYI: I just sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to suggest that such a footer be added. We'll see what happens. JMHO, but back in the good 'ole dayz there was a footer and I haven't seen any perceivable volume increase on the list since it was removed. It all boils down to there are a lot of

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Swart, James (Jim) ** CTR **
]' Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? FYI: I just sent a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] to suggest that such a footer be added. We'll see what happens. JMHO, but back in the good 'ole dayz there was a footer and I haven't seen any perceivable volume increase on the list

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Jann VanOver
Yeah, but at least with a footer, we can all say RTFF and leave it at that. -Original Message- From: Michael Wentzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? FYI: I just sent

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Randy Layman
, James (Jim) ** CTR ** [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? yes. I used to be like that (It all boils down to there are a lot of people out there, you know who you are;), who

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Swart, James (Jim) ** CTR **
touche! -Original Message- From: Randy Layman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist?? Then most people have bad expectations of this mailing list. Many responses don't

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Gary Dale
there. Jann VanOver wrote: Yeah, but at least with a footer, we can all say RTFF and leave it at that. -Original Message- From: Michael Wentzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:51 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-06 Thread Milt Epstein
On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Gary Dale wrote: I'd prefer to see a news group rather than this mailing list. Something like comp.infosystems.www.servers.apache.jakarta or just comp.infosystems.www.servers.jakarta would be appropriate. For that matter, there should be

RE: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-05 Thread Swart, James (Jim) ** CTR **
Looks like I could use some practice in writing to the masses. This is what I *meant* to say in earlier e-mails today. I just suck at putting it politically. Thanks. -Original Message- From: Martin van den Bemt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2001 2:18 PM To:

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-05 Thread Jeff Waugh
Unfortunately, we are dealing with 'people' here. It is a shame that there is not a 'filter' to eliminate 'stupid' people, but as hard as I've tried, I just can't program it. If someone else can, please make it an Opensource project But, then again, we would probably get 'stupid' people

Re: Should we do moderation on this mailinglist??

2001-06-05 Thread Hemant Singh
HI Jeff: I agree with your idea When after downloading most of the files are asking how to unsubscribe, duplicate mails, lab, lab it really pains How abt dividing this group into several parts, Like one for tomcat configuration - Servlet prblems, etc --- Jeff Waugh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: