Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-08-27 Thread garym
syrah wrote: > SBT to Rega DAC via coaxial. I installed the EDO applet only to take > advantage of 24/192. Not using the USB connection as the Rega DAC's USB > tops out at 48. I uninstalled the EDO applet and played a 24/192 track > and it was fine with no rebuffering or drop outs. Reinstalled

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-08-27 Thread syrah
Man in a van wrote: > Which DAC are you using and is the SBT connected by Ethernet or wireless > ? > > ronnie Wireless connection for the SBT. syrah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54856 View

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-08-27 Thread syrah
Man in a van wrote: > Which DAC are you using and is the SBT connected by Ethernet or wireless > ? > > ronnie SBT to Rega DAC via coaxial. I installed the EDO applet only to take advantage of 24/192. Not using the USB connection as the Rega DAC's USB tops out at 48. I uninstalled the EDO

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-08-27 Thread Man in a van
syrah wrote: > I'm very much in the same shoes as the OP, rediscovering my two SBTs > acquired in 2011 and enjoying them now as much if not more than I did > all those years ago. Just today, I installed the EDO applet, eight years > too late. What a rousing discovery; it is supposed to allow:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-08-26 Thread syrah
garym wrote: > I'd say it is very capable even without the EDO applet.:rolleyes: (in > case the OP doesn't know, the EDO applet will allow the Touch to play > 24/192 files (normally limited to 24/96 files). EDO will also allow the > one to connect the Touch to the USB input of a DAC. (full

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-07-01 Thread Michael Herger
I did disable MOG at some point. After which I was told that while MOG was dead in the US, it still existed in some way in NZ or Australia. But that's been years ago. Might be dead by now, too... Yes, and what about Napster, Deezer, Amazon CD store, MusicIP, Orange Liveradio and Slacker, etc?

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-07-01 Thread garym
cfuttrup wrote: > Hi garym > > Yes, and what about Napster, Deezer, Amazon CD store, MusicIP, Orange > Liveradio and Slacker, etc? > > Is there a way we could check all the plugins and maybe create a list of > ones that no longer function? > > /Claus Don't know. I don't use any of the ones

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-07-01 Thread cfuttrup
Hi garym Yes, and what about Napster, Deezer, Amazon CD store, MusicIP, Orange Liveradio and Slacker, etc? Is there a way we could check all the plugins and maybe create a list of ones that no longer function? /Claus

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-07-01 Thread garym
cfuttrup wrote: > Is there a list of plug-ins that no longer work? > > /Claus Not sure. And to be clear, perhaps the MOG plugin still works. It is just that the MOG music service no longer exists, so nothing to connect to. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-07-01 Thread cfuttrup
garym wrote: > Many of the others could be removed (as no longer work, like MOG), but > they shouldn't be causing any problems. Is there a list of plug-ins that no longer work? /Claus cfuttrup's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread garym
Nonreality wrote: > Wow it's so great to see your familiar name Garym! I'm also glad you > explained the edo app as I agree that my touch still sounds great > without it but I'll definitely add it. Hope all is well with you and > your loved ones. > > Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread Nonreality
Wow it's so great to see your familiar name Gary! I'm also glad you explained the edo app as I agree that my touch still sounds great without it but I'll definitely add it. Hope all is well with you and your loved ones. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread bpa
garym wrote: > Why not? The Mac running LMS is connected via wifi to router (one hop), > then TOUCH is connected to same router via WIFI (second hop). Wouldn't > this be a double hop? > (OP tested this, when he wired the Touch, buffering went away). OK - sorry you're right. I was think along

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread garym
artmaltman wrote: > Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two > creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop: > > 1. Plug my Mac directly into the ethernet. I think that someone > mentioned this above, but I am so stuck in the wifi frame of thinking > that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread garym
bpa wrote: > If you get rebuffering when playing *files* from LMS - then double hop > is *NOT* the issue. Why not? The Mac running LMS is connected via wifi to router (one hop), then TOUCH is connected to same router via WIFI. Wouldn't this be a double hop? (OP tested this, when he wired the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread bpa
artmaltman wrote: > Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two > creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop:. If you get rebuffering when playing *files* from LMS - then double hop is *NOT* the issue.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread slartibartfast
artmaltman wrote: > Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two > creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop: > > 1. Plug my Mac directly into the ethernet. I think that someone > mentioned this above, but I am so stuck in the wifi frame of thinking > that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-30 Thread artmaltman
Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop: 1. Plug my Mac directly into the ethernet. I think that someone mentioned this above, but I am so stuck in the wifi frame of thinking that it did not sink in initially.

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread bpa
artmaltman wrote: > Does the Touch have compatibility issues with some modem/routers? > Is there a network setting on the Touch that I might have overlooked? > Never had wifi problems at all ever in the several years I've been in > this home. Rebuffering could mean either Wifi capacity to

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread garym
for wifi, make sure you're using only 1, 6, or 11 and not automatic (all these are set in your router, typically from a webGUI interface to the router administration). Also, you mention you're in NY. Maybe a crowded wifi space. Use some sort of program (lots of free ones available) to see

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread Michael Herger
I updated the plugin list and restarted LMS. Get rid of anything you're not sure you need. They'll reinstall easily if needed. And the prefs are not wiped in the process. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread garym
artmaltman wrote: > I updated the plugin list and restarted LMS. > > Tried ethernet again but this time did a factory restore on the Touch so > that it would not have the wifi connect. > > Voila: no buffering when playing the Mac's music database on ethernet!!! > > When I unplug the ethernet

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread artmaltman
I updated the plugin list and restarted LMS. Tried ethernet again but this time did a factory restore on the Touch so that it would not have the wifi connect. Voila: no buffering when playing the Mac's music database on ethernet!!! When I unplug the ethernet and restore the wifi connection,

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread garym
artmaltman wrote: > Makes sense, I was wondering whether the unit had really switched to > Ethernet. Will try that now. Also I noticed that I have a LOT of > plugins on this unit, per the squeezebox web site. Do any of these look > suspicious? See insert below. untick the upnp/dlna and

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread artmaltman
Makes sense, I was wondering whether the unit had really switched to Ethernet. Will try that now. Also I noticed that I have a LOT of plugins on this unit, per the squeezebox web site. Do any of these look suspicious? See insert below. garym wrote: > Yep, these type files shouldn't

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread garym
artmaltman wrote: > My iTunes database on this particular computer is old school, just AAC > 256. > When I used these same two Touch's back in 2010-2012, I was able to play > reliably the AAC 256 database and also the AAC lossless database. > But that was my place in California, and the wifi

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread artmaltman
My iTunes database on this particular computer is old school, just AAC 256. When I used these same two Touch's back in 2010-2012, I was able to play reliably the AAC 256 database and also the AAC lossless database. But that was my place in California, and the wifi router was probably current

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread Andrew Wright
My experience is that wifi really won't allow anything above about FLAC 5 to work smoothly without rebufferring. The easy way to check this is just to play a series of tracks ripped to low kbps up to the high end 'high res' stuff. The difference can be up 5,000 kbits per track. So a recent

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread garym
artmaltman wrote: > Yikes, this is funny, I did not realize how ambiguous my comment was. > Computer connected to internet via wifi. Touch connected also via wifi. > By "radio" I mean the radio function on the Touch. Some stations play > nicely, others though I just get a "teststream"

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread philchillbill
Today we also have 2 Alexa skills to control LMS. Alexa didn’t exist in 2012... philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread Shozzer
artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is very intriguing. I am now running LMS v8. My mind is > stuck in the "play the music on your hard drive" world but really, > everything that I want is probably in Spotify, and more LMS gives you the best of both worlds...

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread artmaltman
Shozzer wrote: > Also, with LMS 8.0 there is music integration from streaming services > with local library - a saved album in Spotify will appear in my own > library and can be played from there rather than having to go into > Spotify to do this. Well, this is very intriguing. I am now

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread Shozzer
Daverz wrote: > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, > but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about > that already. > > The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still > use mine for my headphone system. I use an

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-28 Thread slartibartfast
artmaltman wrote: > ... buffering is happening on the Touch itself.Not sure about the rebuffering > (what type of files are you playing?) but there are permissions issues with Catalina. A search for Catalina in the forum will find more info. This might explain the unexpected speed of the scan

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread artmaltman
... buffering is happening on the Touch itself. artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread artmaltman
Yikes, this is funny, I did not realize how ambiguous my comment was. Computer connected to internet via wifi. Touch connected also via wifi. By "radio" I mean the radio function on the Touch. Some stations play nicely, others though I just get a "teststream" notification. I have now

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread garym
8 vs 7.9.3 not likely the issue with rebuffering. Provide more detail. Where are your files located? how attached to Mac. Wired vs Wifi. and you mention radio, but before you talked about Touch players. Playing local files or streaming? *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread artmaltman
Radio seems to work ok, nicely actually, but when I try to play music from my iTunes database on Mac via LMS, it keeps rebuffering. Running 7.9.3 thinking it sounds more stable than 8 right now, but, willing to try 8 if you think that might help. 2015 MacBook Pro 13" 16gig I7 running 10.15.5

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread garym
Daverz wrote: > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, > but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about > that already. > > The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still > use mine for my headphone system. I use an

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread Daverz
artmaltman wrote: > What's the current situation with Squeezebox Touch and LMS? Would any > of you be willing to give me a short summary? I've been out of touch > with this community since 2012! > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, but looks like that

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread garym
artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so > pleasantly surprised! > > More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer > versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get > involved with beta's just yet

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread Michael Herger
More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I must mention that LMS8 is the latest and greatest, of course, but it's far from finalized. It's stable as of today, but this could change at any time. If you want to take the

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread TimT
artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so > pleasantly surprised! > > More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer > versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get > involved with beta's just yet

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread artmaltman
Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so pleasantly surprised! More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get involved with beta's just yet because I'm not familiar with

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread Apesbrain
I'll just add that the Touch remains a very competitive device for the purposes you've described. It's DAC is fine for direct output to a set of small powered speakers, and if connected to an external DAC it is completely up to the demands of a great system. The Raspberry Pi solutions come

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread bpa
artmaltman wrote: > QUESTION: what's changed other than Logitech obviously dropping support. > Per the forums, it looks like there is a huge community continuing to > update the software and loving these units. Does the old functionality > still exist? New functionality? Should I be running

Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread garym
1. In many ways the squeezebox/LMS ecosystem has never been stronger. The rPi revolution (and piCorePlayer), among others, has solved the discontinuation of the hardware. The usergroups at this forum are doing amazing work. 2. LMS can allow one to play spotify, tidal, and Quobuz streaming

[SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?

2020-06-27 Thread artmaltman
What's the current situation with Squeezebox Touch and LMS? Would any of you be willing to give me a short summary? I've been out of touch with this community since 2012! I used to use my pair of Squeezebox Touch's relentlessly until mid-2012 when I moved from a large home in California to