Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
syrah wrote: > SBT to Rega DAC via coaxial. I installed the EDO applet only to take > advantage of 24/192. Not using the USB connection as the Rega DAC's USB > tops out at 48. I uninstalled the EDO applet and played a 24/192 track > and it was fine with no rebuffering or drop outs. Reinstalled the applet > and the drop outs recurred. The fault was consistent and repeatable. :D Could be because without the applet, LMS is downconverting the 24/192 track to 24/96. So smaller file size. You say you're using WIFI. Connect as a test with ethernet cable (which requires setup, more than simply plugging in). *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.1/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.1/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Man in a van wrote: > Which DAC are you using and is the SBT connected by Ethernet or wireless > ? > > ronnie Wireless connection for the SBT. syrah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Man in a van wrote: > Which DAC are you using and is the SBT connected by Ethernet or wireless > ? > > ronnie SBT to Rega DAC via coaxial. I installed the EDO applet only to take advantage of 24/192. Not using the USB connection as the Rega DAC's USB tops out at 48. I uninstalled the EDO applet and played a 24/192 track and it was fine with no rebuffering or drop outs. Reinstalled the applet and the drop outs recurred. The fault was consistent and repeatable. :D syrah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
syrah wrote: > I'm very much in the same shoes as the OP, rediscovering my two SBTs > acquired in 2011 and enjoying them now as much if not more than I did > all those years ago. Just today, I installed the EDO applet, eight years > too late. What a rousing discovery; it is supposed to allow: (1) 24/192 > playback via digital coaxial out, and (2) turns the SBT USB input into > an output to connect to an external DAC. Unfortunately, as of now, I > still haven't managed to get that working fully - as 24/192 tracks keep > dropping out and rebuffering incessantly. I'm sure I'll sort it out > before long. Which DAC are you using and is the SBT connected by Ethernet or wireless ? ronnie Man in a van's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=43627 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
garym wrote: > I'd say it is very capable even without the EDO applet.:rolleyes: (in > case the OP doesn't know, the EDO applet will allow the Touch to play > 24/192 files (normally limited to 24/96 files). EDO will also allow the > one to connect the Touch to the USB input of a DAC. (full disclosure, > I've not used the EDO applet on my Touch players.) I'm very much in the same shoes as the OP, rediscovering my two SBTs acquired in 2011 and enjoying them now as much if not more than I did all those years ago. Just today, I installed the EDO applet, eight years too late. What a rousing discovery; it is supposed to allow: (1) 24/192 playback via digital coaxial out, and (2) turns the SBT USB input into an output to connect to an external DAC. Unfortunately, as of now, I still haven't managed to get that working fully - as 24/192 tracks keep dropping out and rebuffering incessantly. I'm sure I'll sort it out before long. syrah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=54856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
I did disable MOG at some point. After which I was told that while MOG was dead in the US, it still existed in some way in NZ or Australia. But that's been years ago. Might be dead by now, too... Yes, and what about Napster, Deezer, Amazon CD store, MusicIP, Orange Liveradio and Slacker, etc? Of these I believe all but Amazon are still very much alive. Amazon CD store should work, too, as it's not a service, but some implementation on our end. But whether it's used or not, I don't know. But I'd agree that we could probably flag many of them disabled by default. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
cfuttrup wrote: > Hi garym > > Yes, and what about Napster, Deezer, Amazon CD store, MusicIP, Orange > Liveradio and Slacker, etc? > > Is there a way we could check all the plugins and maybe create a list of > ones that no longer function? > > /Claus Don't know. I don't use any of the ones you mention, and I simply untick all these in LMS > Settings > Plugins, and they are not installed on my machines. So they are irrelevant to my installs of LMS. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Hi garym Yes, and what about Napster, Deezer, Amazon CD store, MusicIP, Orange Liveradio and Slacker, etc? Is there a way we could check all the plugins and maybe create a list of ones that no longer function? /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
cfuttrup wrote: > Is there a list of plug-ins that no longer work? > > /Claus Not sure. And to be clear, perhaps the MOG plugin still works. It is just that the MOG music service no longer exists, so nothing to connect to. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
garym wrote: > Many of the others could be removed (as no longer work, like MOG), but > they shouldn't be causing any problems. Is there a list of plug-ins that no longer work? /Claus cfuttrup's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32784 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Nonreality wrote: > Wow it's so great to see your familiar name Garym! I'm also glad you > explained the edo app as I agree that my touch still sounds great > without it but I'll definitely add it. Hope all is well with you and > your loved ones. > > Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk Likewise! Life is good, mostly. Lucky because only bored working from home and missing live music shows, restaurants, and travel. Obviously, that means I've got it made these days, all things considered. Take care. /Gary *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Wow it's so great to see your familiar name Gary! I'm also glad you explained the edo app as I agree that my touch still sounds great without it but I'll definitely add it. Hope all is well with you and your loved ones. Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk -IF THE RULE YOU FOLLOWED BROUGHT YOU TO THIS, OF WHAT USE IS THE RULE.- HTTP://www.last.fm/user/nonreality Nonreality's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
garym wrote: > Why not? The Mac running LMS is connected via wifi to router (one hop), > then TOUCH is connected to same router via WIFI (second hop). Wouldn't > this be a double hop? > (OP tested this, when he wired the Touch, buffering went away). OK - sorry you're right. I was think along the lines of internet streaming which is where rebuffering more likely and got mixed up. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two > creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop: > > 1. Plug my Mac directly into the ethernet. I think that someone > mentioned this above, but I am so stuck in the wifi frame of thinking > that it did not sink in initially. While my stereo is way across the > room from the router/modem, my computer shares a wall with the > router/modem. Roughly 15 feet, ethernet can handle that distance, no? > This solution lets me use the current LMS along with the latest plugins > for streaming. > > 2. Dust off my 2008 MacBook Pro which was sitting in the closet next to > my Squeezebox Touch's. Plug it directly into the ethernet and use it as > a server. This solution might come with security problems though, as > the operating system on that machine is long past receiving security > updates from Apple. > > Thanks for your assistance with this. What an amazing community. either would work (I recommended #1 early on). ethernet can handle several hundred feet of cable. Re: #2, assuming you have normal firewall, etc. on router, don't open any ports on the router, and run some sort of AntiVirus program on the 2008 MacBook, it might make a perfectly fine server. Just delete all the personal files you don't use (not required, but just in case), put your music files on it, and run only LMS on the old computer. I don't see a security issue there, but I'm not security expert. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
bpa wrote: > If you get rebuffering when playing *files* from LMS - then double hop > is *NOT* the issue. Why not? The Mac running LMS is connected via wifi to router (one hop), then TOUCH is connected to same router via WIFI. Wouldn't this be a double hop? (OP tested this, when he wired the Touch, buffering went away). *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two > creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop:. If you get rebuffering when playing *files* from LMS - then double hop is *NOT* the issue. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two > creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop: > > 1. Plug my Mac directly into the ethernet. I think that someone > mentioned this above, but I am so stuck in the wifi frame of thinking > that it did not sink in initially. While my stereo is way across the > room from the router/modem, my computer shares a wall with the > router/modem. Roughly 15 feet, ethernet can handle that distance, no? > This solution lets me use the current LMS along with the latest plugins > for streaming. > > 2. Dust off my 2008 MacBook Pro which was sitting in the closet next to > my Squeezebox Touch's. Plug it directly into the ethernet and use it as > a server. This solution might come with security problems though, as > the operating system on that machine is long past receiving security > updates from Apple. > > Thanks for your assistance with this. What an amazing community.Or buy a > Raspberry Pi and leave it on 24/7. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Thinking about this overnight I realized that I have at least two creative solutions that will avoid the double wifi hop: 1. Plug my Mac directly into the ethernet. I think that someone mentioned this above, but I am so stuck in the wifi frame of thinking that it did not sink in initially. While my stereo is way across the room from the router/modem, my computer shares a wall with the router/modem. Roughly 15 feet, ethernet can handle that distance, no? This solution lets me use the current LMS along with the latest plugins for streaming. 2. Dust off my 2008 MacBook Pro which was sitting in the closet next to my Squeezebox Touch's. Plug it directly into the ethernet and use it as a server. This solution might come with security problems though, as the operating system on that machine is long past receiving security updates from Apple. Thanks for your assistance with this. What an amazing community. artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Does the Touch have compatibility issues with some modem/routers? > Is there a network setting on the Touch that I might have overlooked? > Never had wifi problems at all ever in the several years I've been in > this home. Rebuffering could mean either Wifi capacity to Touch is at limited (e.g. sending files as 96kbps WAV and not flac and lots of other wifi traffic) or interference from other devices (e.g. BT, wireless home cinema system) 1. Check for possible conflict/interference from other wifi networks. Use wifi scanner. See if any other Wifi nets are nearby. - set router not to auto-choose channel and set channel at least occupied or 1,6 or 11 (some users say avoid 6). Touch is an "old" b/g device and cannot discriminate as well as newer devices. 2. Some modems routers have new features which be upsetting - turn off things like bonding, optional feature which may not be fully backwards compatible with an b/g device. 3. If using dual bandwidth - move as applicable devices to 5Ghz. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
for wifi, make sure you're using only 1, 6, or 11 and not automatic (all these are set in your router, typically from a webGUI interface to the router administration). Also, you mention you're in NY. Maybe a crowded wifi space. Use some sort of program (lots of free ones available) to see what the least crowded nearby channels are for you, and use of of these (again, 1, 6, or 11, as these channels don't overlap with adjacent channels). *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
I updated the plugin list and restarted LMS. Get rid of anything you're not sure you need. They'll reinstall easily if needed. And the prefs are not wiped in the process. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > I updated the plugin list and restarted LMS. > > Tried ethernet again but this time did a factory restore on the Touch so > that it would not have the wifi connect. > > Voila: no buffering when playing the Mac's music database on ethernet!!! > > When I unplug the ethernet and restore the wifi connection, the > buffering comes back when playing the music database. > > Does the Touch have compatibility issues with some modem/routers? > Is there a network setting on the Touch that I might have overlooked? > Never had wifi problems at all ever in the several years I've been in > this home. touch generally works well with WIFI. But, as you've discovered, typically things are best if there is only one WIFI hop. Many have their music server wired and use the TOUCH with WIFI.Perhaps you should buy an rPi4B, install piCorePlayer, connect a USB portable drive with your music to the rPi, and now you have a complete LMS music server the size of a paperback book (rPi and USB drive combined!). And this can be connected out of the way directly to your router with ethernet. And total cost probably less than $100. Or as you mentioned, just use either Spotify, Tidal, etc. to stream music. Then only one wifi hop (router to touch). *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
I updated the plugin list and restarted LMS. Tried ethernet again but this time did a factory restore on the Touch so that it would not have the wifi connect. Voila: no buffering when playing the Mac's music database on ethernet!!! When I unplug the ethernet and restore the wifi connection, the buffering comes back when playing the music database. Does the Touch have compatibility issues with some modem/routers? Is there a network setting on the Touch that I might have overlooked? Never had wifi problems at all ever in the several years I've been in this home. garym wrote: > untick the upnp/dlna and itunes plugins for sure. And I'd likely remove > the musicIP plugin. > > Many of the others could be removed (as no longer work, like MOG), but > they shouldn't be causing any problems. artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Makes sense, I was wondering whether the unit had really switched to > Ethernet. Will try that now. Also I noticed that I have a LOT of > plugins on this unit, per the squeezebox web site. Do any of these look > suspicious? See insert below. untick the upnp/dlna and itunes plugins for sure. And I'd likely remove the musicIP plugin. Many of the others could be removed (as no longer work, like MOG), but they shouldn't be causing any problems. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Makes sense, I was wondering whether the unit had really switched to Ethernet. Will try that now. Also I noticed that I have a LOT of plugins on this unit, per the squeezebox web site. Do any of these look suspicious? See insert below. garym wrote: > Yep, these type files shouldn't buffer, but something is causing it. And > you're not getting buffering from internet radio (but that's only one > wifi hop rather than two). Regarding connecting the TOUCH with > ethernet, I recall that simply plugging in an ethernet cable doesn't > convert the TOUCH to ethernet. It's still setup to use WIFI and using > WIFI even though you've plugged it in. That's why I suggested testing > with the computer connected to ethernet. I can't recall how to change > the TOUCH to ethernet. I think there's a way, but the full proof way is > to just do a factory setup on the TOUCH with the ethernet connected and > tell it to use that setup. > > edit: see, > https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?84921-Switch-from-Wireless-to-Ethernet +---+ |Filename: Screen Shot 2020-06-27 at 8.27.20 PM.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30862| +---+ artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
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artmaltman wrote: > My iTunes database on this particular computer is old school, just AAC > 256. > When I used these same two Touch's back in 2010-2012, I was able to play > reliably the AAC 256 database and also the AAC lossless database. > But that was my place in California, and the wifi router was probably > current technology to the technology in the Touch. > I wonder if it's related to the newer router / modem. > > I have now tried plugging in the SBox Touch to the router / modem unit > directly, and still get re-buffering playing the database on the > computer. > Internet radio plays fine though. Yep, these type files shouldn't buffer, but something is causing it. And you're not getting buffering from internet radio (but that's only one wifi hop rather than two). Regarding connecting the TOUCH with ethernet, I recall that simply plugging in an ethernet cable doesn't convert the TOUCH to ethernet. It's still setup to use WIFI and using WIFI even though you've plugged it in. That's why I suggested testing with the computer connected to ethernet. I can't recall how to change the TOUCH to ethernet. I think there's a way, but the full proof way is to just do a factory setup on the TOUCH with the ethernet connected and tell it to use that setup. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
My iTunes database on this particular computer is old school, just AAC 256. When I used these same two Touch's back in 2010-2012, I was able to play reliably the AAC 256 database and also the AAC lossless database. But that was my place in California, and the wifi router was probably current technology to the technology in the Touch. I wonder if it's related to the newer router / modem. I have now tried plugging in the SBox Touch to the router / modem unit directly, and still get re-buffering playing the database on the computer. Internet radio plays fine though. sherington wrote: > My experience is that wifi really won't allow anything above about FLAC > 5 > to work smoothly without rebufferring. The easy way to check this is > just > to play a series of tracks ripped to low kbps up to the high end 'high > res' > stuff. The difference can be up 5,000 kbits per track. So a recent > download > can be at >5kbps whereas a track you dowloaded or ripped a few years > ago > could be at 128kbps. The latter is unlikely to cause any rebufferring > whilst the latter definitely will - over wifi. > > Of course, to have a reliable wifi system is now perfectly possible > with > the current gen of mesh systems etc but you may still have to > physically > wire the Touch into the network if you routinely listen to highres > stuff. > For instance I would not bother with installing the EDO stuff on a > Touch > that only relies on wifi connect. > > Andrew > > On Sun, 28 Jun 2020, 01:42 artmaltman, < > artmaltman.9l5hjz (AT) no-mx (DOT) forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > > > > Radio seems to work ok, nicely actually, but when I try to play music > > from my iTunes database on Mac via LMS, it keeps rebuffering. > > Running 7.9.3 thinking it sounds more stable than 8 right now, but, > > willing to try 8 if you think that might help. 2015 MacBook Pro 13" > > 16gig I7 running 10.15.5 (latest MacOS). > > I did a "rescan". > > Is there a clear solution here or a matter of debugging? > > I assume the wifi connection is ok since the radio plays quite well. > > Thank you. > > Art > > > > > > > > > artmaltman's Profile: > > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 > > View this thread: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 > > > > artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
My experience is that wifi really won't allow anything above about FLAC 5 to work smoothly without rebufferring. The easy way to check this is just to play a series of tracks ripped to low kbps up to the high end 'high res' stuff. The difference can be up 5,000 kbits per track. So a recent download can be at >5kbps whereas a track you dowloaded or ripped a few years ago could be at 128kbps. The latter is unlikely to cause any rebufferring whilst the latter definitely will - over wifi. Of course, to have a reliable wifi system is now perfectly possible with the current gen of mesh systems etc but you may still have to physically wire the Touch into the network if you routinely listen to highres stuff. For instance I would not bother with installing the EDO stuff on a Touch that only relies on wifi connect. Andrew On Sun, 28 Jun 2020, 01:42 artmaltman, < artmaltman.9l5...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > Radio seems to work ok, nicely actually, but when I try to play music > from my iTunes database on Mac via LMS, it keeps rebuffering. > Running 7.9.3 thinking it sounds more stable than 8 right now, but, > willing to try 8 if you think that might help. 2015 MacBook Pro 13" > 16gig I7 running 10.15.5 (latest MacOS). > I did a "rescan". > Is there a clear solution here or a matter of debugging? > I assume the wifi connection is ok since the radio plays quite well. > Thank you. > Art > > > > artmaltman's Profile: > http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 > > ___ > Touch mailing list > Touch@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch > ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Yikes, this is funny, I did not realize how ambiguous my comment was. > Computer connected to internet via wifi. Touch connected also via wifi. > By "radio" I mean the radio function on the Touch. Some stations play > nicely, others though I just get a "teststream" notification. I have > now unchecked the "use itunes" box in Library, which I think is what you > were suggesting. Just did a rescan and yes I point it to the itunes > media folder which contains the music folder among other folders. The > rescan happens oddly quickly. > > seems that the scan picked up your files, as it shows the number of tracks and artists and albums. I'm assuming that you can see these in LMS, select something to play, and then once playing, the TOUCH starts rebuffering. Correct? p.s. As a test can you temporarily setup the Mac wired to your router via ethernet? With your current setup, you have two "wifi" hops. From the Mac running LMS back to the router and then from the router to the Touch. This can sometimes be a problem. Worth testing to see if that's it. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
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Today we also have 2 Alexa skills to control LMS. Alexa didnt exist in 2012... philchillbill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=68920 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
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artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is very intriguing. I am now running LMS v8. My mind is > stuck in the "play the music on your hard drive" world but really, > everything that I want is probably in Spotify, and more LMS gives you the best of both worlds... Shozzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
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Shozzer wrote: > Also, with LMS 8.0 there is music integration from streaming services > with local library - a saved album in Spotify will appear in my own > library and can be played from there rather than having to go into > Spotify to do this. Well, this is very intriguing. I am now running LMS v8. My mind is stuck in the "play the music on your hard drive" world but really, everything that I want is probably in Spotify, and more artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Daverz wrote: > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, > but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about > that already. > > The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still > use mine for my headphone system. I use an RPi4 (headless) running > piCorePlayer for my speaker system. > > For me, the biggest changes in LMS were: > > * LMS 7.9 including a Composer menu. > * Qobuz > * Material Skin, finally a decent web interface > * Music & Artist Info (I can read all those PDFs in my music folders) Also, with LMS 8.0 there is music integration from streaming services with local library - a saved album in Spotify will appear in my own library and can be played from there rather than having to go into Spotify to do this. Shozzer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58726 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > ... buffering is happening on the Touch itself.Not sure about the rebuffering > (what type of files are you playing?) but there are permissions issues with Catalina. A search for Catalina in the forum will find more info. This might explain the unexpected speed of the scan as others have mentioned this. Sent from my Pixel 3a using Tapatalk slartibartfast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=35609 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
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... buffering is happening on the Touch itself. artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Yikes, this is funny, I did not realize how ambiguous my comment was. Computer connected to internet via wifi. Touch connected also via wifi. By "radio" I mean the radio function on the Touch. Some stations play nicely, others though I just get a "teststream" notification. I have now unchecked the "use itunes" box in Library, which I think is what you were suggesting. Just did a rescan and yes I point it to the itunes media folder which contains the music folder among other folders. The rescan happens oddly quickly. 30856 +---+ |Filename: Screen Shot 2020-06-27 at 8.27.20 PM.png | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=30856| +---+ artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
8 vs 7.9.3 not likely the issue with rebuffering. Provide more detail. Where are your files located? how attached to Mac. Wired vs Wifi. and you mention radio, but before you talked about Touch players. Playing local files or streaming? *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Radio seems to work ok, nicely actually, but when I try to play music from my iTunes database on Mac via LMS, it keeps rebuffering. Running 7.9.3 thinking it sounds more stable than 8 right now, but, willing to try 8 if you think that might help. 2015 MacBook Pro 13" 16gig I7 running 10.15.5 (latest MacOS). I did a "rescan". Is there a clear solution here or a matter of debugging? I assume the wifi connection is ok since the radio plays quite well. Thank you. Art artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Daverz wrote: > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, > but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about > that already. > > The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still > use mine for my headphone system. I use an RPi4 (headless) running > piCorePlayer for my speaker system. > > For me, the biggest changes in LMS were: > > * LMS 7.9 including a Composer menu. > * Qobuz > * Material Skin, finally a decent web interface > * Music & Artist Info (I can read all those PDFs in my music folders) I'd say it is very capable even without the EDO applet.:rolleyes: (in case the OP doesn't know, the EDO applet will allow the Touch to play 24/192 files (normally limited to 24/96 files). EDO will also allow the one to connect the Touch to the USB input of a DAC. (full disclosure, I've not used the EDO applet on my Touch players.) *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > What's the current situation with Squeezebox Touch and LMS? Would any > of you be willing to give me a short summary? I've been out of touch > with this community since 2012! > For the Touch the biggest change was the Enhanced Digital Output app, but looks like that was launched back in 2012, so you may know about that already. The Touch is still pretty capable with the EDO app installed. I still use mine for my headphone system. I use an RPi4 (headless) running piCorePlayer for my speaker system. For me, the biggest changes in LMS were: * LMS 7.9 including a Composer menu. * Qobuz * Material Skin, finally a decent web interface * Music & Artist Info (I can read all those PDFs in my music folders) Daverz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=32335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so > pleasantly surprised! > > More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer > versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get > involved with beta's just yet because I'm not familiar with how things > are supposed to work, so the risk of bugs is just too much for me. > > Thanks so much. > Art I've thought about moving to 8, but I'm mostly running 7.9.3, and it does everything I want. So good enough for now (for me) *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
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More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I must mention that LMS8 is the latest and greatest, of course, but it's far from finalized. It's stable as of today, but this could change at any time. If you want to take the risk, I'd suggest you check the status before updates. I'm going to announce bigger changes when they hit LMS8 nightlies. -- Michael ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so > pleasantly surprised! > > More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer > versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get > involved with beta's just yet because I'm not familiar with how things > are supposed to work, so the risk of bugs is just too much for me. > > Thanks so much. > Art Go for 8. TimT's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22971 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
Well, this is amazing. Thank you all for the detailed updates. I am so pleasantly surprised! More info is always welcome. I will start with downloading the newer versions of LMS. Should I go for 7.9.3 or 8? I don't want to get involved with beta's just yet because I'm not familiar with how things are supposed to work, so the risk of bugs is just too much for me. Thanks so much. Art artmaltman's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=37856 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
I'll just add that the Touch remains a very competitive device for the purposes you've described. It's DAC is fine for direct output to a set of small powered speakers, and if connected to an external DAC it is completely up to the demands of a great system. The Raspberry Pi solutions come into play if you want to add a zone, or if a Touch stops working; their sound quality is as good or better than the Touch. For me, the big improvement of the past eight years has been the convenience of using mobile devices as control points. There are apps for Android and iOS that duplicate the library and control functionality of LMS. There also is now, as mentioned, a contemporary "Material Skin" installable via plugin that looks great on desktop or in mobile browser. There is nothing I need from Squeezebox that it can't do. Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
artmaltman wrote: > QUESTION: what's changed other than Logitech obviously dropping support. > Per the forums, it looks like there is a huge community continuing to > update the software and loving these units. Does the old functionality > still exist? New functionality? Should I be running a newer LMS (and > why?)? I see some references to Tidal, is that a thing on the Touch? Significant change in development - development is done by community, no big release backed up by big testing team, lots of continuous updates with feedback on bugs from community. 8.0 is latest version which has most development. 7.9.3 only gets essential support. Most new development are driven external internet services - Spotify, Tidal, Deezer etc and huge variety of streaming live and on-demand and podcast services. New service often require new support of internet standards such as security https with TLS 1.3 and so latest version of LMS has latest support. There is support via plugins for playing via Airplay, Chromecast and uPNP devices. RPI based players have choice of an array of "hats" with DACs of varying quality. bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
Re: [SlimDevices: Touch] Today vs 2012; What's different today in the Squeezebox world?
1. In many ways the squeezebox/LMS ecosystem has never been stronger. The rPi revolution (and piCorePlayer), among others, has solved the discontinuation of the hardware. The usergroups at this forum are doing amazing work. 2. LMS can allow one to play spotify, tidal, and Quobuz streaming services. 3. You should run either LMS 7.9.3 or LMS 8.0 http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=7.9 http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.0 4. You can point the LMS music library to wherever you have your itunes music files stored, and LMS will scan this location and make those files available to use. no need for any special "use itunes xml file" etc. 5. Load up LMS, set it up. fire up your Touch players and have fun. As you can see from my signature, I'm still using my Squeezebox players with great results. *Home:* VBA 4TB (2.5) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.3>Transporter, Touch, Boom, Radio (all ethernet) *Cottage:* VBA 3TB (2.4) -or- rPi4B/pCP6.0/4TB>LMS 7.9.1>Touch>Benchmark DAC I, Boom, Radio w/Battery (ethernet, Radio WIFI) *Office:* Win10(64)>LMS 7.9.3>Squeezelite *The Wild: *rPi3B+/pCP4.0, hifiberry Dac+Pro, 4TB USB (LMS & Squeezelite) *Controllers:* iPhone11 & iPadAir2 (iPeng), CONTROLLER, or SqueezePlay 7.8 on Win10(64) *Files:* ripping: dbpa > FLAC; post-rip: mp3tag, PerfectTunes; Streaming: Spotify garym's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17325 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=112488 ___ Touch mailing list Touch@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/touch
