[Trisquel-users] How much does Trisquel benefit from being a Ubuntu based distro?

2012-06-07 Thread yeeehi
There are meant to be very large numbers of developers working on Ubuntu. How much is Trisquel able to benefit from that? What are the developers that work specifically on Trisquel generally trying to do most of the time? By the way, gNewSense is also a Linux-libre Ubuntu based distro. What

[Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread yeeehi
This forum runs on pretty basic code. Isn't there something a bit more sophisticated that we could use, to allow more functionality?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
What features are you missing? Open source misses the point.

[Trisquel-users] What is the difference between Office Libre and Open Office?

2012-06-07 Thread yeeehi
I heard that Office Libre is better, but I don't know why. Office libre comes by default with Trisquel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread yeeehi
For example, login using OpenID. Being able to have a signature. Smileys. Buttons to click on to add an html link. That sort of stuff. It is all available on the Ubuntu forums application.

Re: [Trisquel-users] How much does Trisquel benefit from being a Ubuntu based distro?

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Trisquel is 90% Ubuntu. Trisquel devs deal (almost?) exclusively with freedom issues. gNewSense was based on Ubuntu but the next version will be based on Debian. Trisquel was originally (in

[Trisquel-users] Battlefield 3 and free software

2012-06-07 Thread yeeehi
Battlefield 3 is not open source, neither is it free. But it is an amazing product that really puts to work the most advanced graphics cards out there. A lot of work went into making it that way. That took a lot of effort time and sweat and tears. I cannot see how such an advanced computer

Re: [Trisquel-users] Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Glad to hear apvp you got it sorted. Silly ubiquity bug! I wonder how a flash thumb drive would work if used as a btrfs seed. Thus it would be a read-only drive in a copy-on-write setup. I think this could be interesting as most files probably remain unchanged. Of course, flash is slower

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Ubuntu forums were running a proprietary application the last time I looked. Many free software forums do offer those features as well. The Trisquel developers are overworked and seldomly wonder here, don't hold your breath while waiting for an answer. If you feel strongly about not having a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Battlefield 3 and free software

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Yes it is. It certainly wasn't true with so many other types of applications. I don't see how games would be different. Related reading: When free software isn't better.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What is the difference between Office Libre and Open Office?

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
LibreOffice has technical advantage because it is released under a copyleft license, unlike OpenOffice. Useful code can be copied from OpenOffice to LibreOffice but not vice versa. Thus LibreOffice contains all useful features of OpenOffice and more. Both licenses are free software but

Re: [Trisquel-users] What is the difference between Office Libre and Open Office?

2012-06-07 Thread chris
Just to add to this. Libre Office is a fork of OpenOffice.org. It was created in result of Oracles inaction on what was going to happen with OpenOffice.org. Under SUN OpenOffice.org was developed and there was no community involvement. SUN didn't work with the community even though it was

Re: [Trisquel-users] Battlefield 3 and free software

2012-06-07 Thread chris
A lot or projects seem to be getting off the ground thanks to kickstarter. I'm not sure if we should be supporting kickstarter although it doesn't seem to be hurting free software any. For those who don't know what kickstarter is. Kickstart is a web site where you can donate to projects to

Re: [Trisquel-users] How much does Trisquel benefit from being a Ubuntu based distro?

2012-06-07 Thread chris
:) Trisquel always has a newer release. I'm actually pretty amazed gNewSense is still around. I'm not sure why one would run this distribution over Trisquel. Maybe geek cred or something? It's a lot more work and the security issues would concern me. I can see some advantages in other

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread holger . beetz
Great to hear you solved it. Someone (may be me :-) should sum up the modification necessary to run Trisquel stable from flash-based media in the wiki.

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread holger . beetz
Chris, it seems logical to me that someone would not use any Flash-based storage for heavy random write-access. I do not think that the interface (USB vs. SATA vs. IDE) plays a big part here. A CF card inside a USB card reader will have a different lifespan compared to the CF card in a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread Dave Hunt
I prefer a nice, clean forum. Why do I need to see a pic of the poster, and know how many cups of Ubuntu, and which roast she's had on the day of posting ? -Dave On 06/07/2012 03:20 AM, yee...@gmail.com wrote: For example, login using OpenID. Being able to have a signature. Smileys.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread sirgrant
You are right, we have not met the [https://trisquel.info/en/issues/4528 goal of 100 members yet]. I track the issue on the issue tracker. We have gained 2 members since posting but a few days ago quidam said he only gets about ~400 euros ($500) per month from membership. If you think

Re: [Trisquel-users] Antwort: Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread Thomas Gilliard
On 06/07/2012 02:45 AM, holger.be...@gmail.com wrote: Chris, it seems logical to me that someone would not use any Flash-based storage for heavy random write-access. I do not think that the interface (USB vs. SATA vs. IDE) plays a big part here. A CF card inside a USB card reader will have a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread sachinsdeyd
I have installed Trisquel on a sandisk mm2 card using usb adapter.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread chris
Maybe I should have rephrased it. The problems I see may not be the result of write access to the card. It could have other explanations. I have done a lot of testing though with solid setups (ext2 rather than ext3/ext4, read-only setups with AUFS and ram, etc). The updating part in my

Re: [Trisquel-users] Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread chris
One of the things I've always wondered is if the density of flash could be negatively impacting the results. If 64GB is the latest available in Micro SDHC then maybe 16 or 32GB would work better. I've always tended to use the most expensive density available given the limited space. However

Re: [Trisquel-users] Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread chris
There are definitely benefits like this to running off flash based medium than CD. Not to mention size.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread Kevin J . Fletcher
yee...@gmail.com writes: This forum runs on pretty basic code. Isn't there something a bit more sophisticated that we could use, to allow more functionality? You have to remember also that the forums are tied to the mailing lists. Some of us never use the forum; I am currently replying to this

[Trisquel-users] Antwort: Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread holger . beetz
OK, I have found my first delinquent for the test. A 1GB USB stick I once received during a Red Hat event. The device itself is listed as: ID 0204:6025 Chipsbank Microelectronics Co., Ltd CBM2080 Flash drive controller I hacked together a cruel bash script which writes roughly 940 MB data

[Trisquel-users] Abrowser fail

2012-06-07 Thread tius
when I open the web browser I get just a window that says: XML Parsing Error: undefined entity Location: chrome://browser/content/browser.xul Line Number 31, column 1:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread chris
It is sad that Trisquel's membership roster actually went down in the total number of members. It wasn't by a small amount either. :( We need to do more fund raising. 400 euros is definitely inconsequential. It would seem the donations are brining in more on a monthly basis than members

[Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?

2012-06-07 Thread chris
For those who are not members what is holding you back? I'm also going to ask what skills do people have? If you can't contribute financially can you contribute some other skill? What languages (non-coding) do you know? Are you familiar with drupal, administration, or have other coding

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't there a better free and open source application for Trisquel Forums?

2012-06-07 Thread chris
I'm going to start a new post since this one got off-topic a bit about raising funds for Trisquel.

[Trisquel-users] Re : How much does Trisquel benefit from being a Ubuntu based distro?

2012-06-07 Thread magicbanana
Trisquel uses Ubuntu's packages as a base and select some to create the default installation images. There is quite some technical work and not only freedom issues (and freedom issues lead to more technical work, such as Abrowser, which is specific to Trisquel).

[Trisquel-users] Re : Install on microSD

2012-06-07 Thread magicbanana
You are not always writing the same random file, do you? If you do, I believe the result does not tell much since the new write confirms what was on the drive ('rm' does *not* remove the data, just the inode).

Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?

2012-06-07 Thread tegskywalker
Sense of Direction For being an Ubuntu based distro, the benefit for the Trisquel team is that there is a company out there (Canonical) that is testing their packages for the Ubuntu release that others can benefit from. Kinda like with CentOS and Scientific Linux where Red Hat puts a lot of

[Trisquel-users] Re : What would make you become an associate member?

2012-06-07 Thread magicbanana
Although the schedule is not official, it exists. Trisquel's versions usually are released during the LibrePlanet conference and for the Free Software Day (it is going to be September 15th this year). This bi-annual pace is about five months delayed w.r.t. Ubuntu's. As a home user, I am

Re: [Trisquel-users] What is the difference between Office Libre and Open Office?

2012-06-07 Thread tegskywalker
I believe the Apache Foundation has more important things to worry about these days like Hadoop. Btw, has anyone tried to setup Hadoop on a Trisquel machine? I know you can manually set it up or use the https://launchpad.net/~hadoop-ubuntu/+archive/stable PPA for Trisquel 5.5 and above.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?

2012-06-07 Thread chris
t3g: Magic Banana makes a good point here about the problem existing because of the lack of resources (people/money). Rubén doesn't have the time to deal with setting a definite schedule, maintaining the forums, etc. If he gets sick there isn't anybody who can take up the slack. If his other

Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?

2012-06-07 Thread tegskywalker
I sometimes take it from the perspective if I were to start a new company and outfit the computers with a version of GNU/Linux. What do I choose? I'm not going to pay for Red Hat and CentOS is not really my taste. I like the Ubuntu ecosystem and the 5 years of support for the LTS releases

Re: [Trisquel-users] What is the difference between Office Libre and Open Office?

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
Yes it is. FSF has a list of popular licenses with comments here http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] How much does Trisquel benefit from being a Ubuntu based distro?

2012-06-07 Thread mikko . viinamaki
I also thought that about abrowser until somebody pointed me to http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=abrowser

Re: [Trisquel-users] What is the difference between Office Libre and Open Office?

2012-06-07 Thread tegskywalker
Oh, I'm aware about the types of licenses. I'm just curious if there were any hidden licensing conflicts like with Chromium where they say it is 100% free software under a BSD license, but some of the included licenses are vague on what they really are. I guess another benefit about Hadoop

Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?

2012-06-07 Thread chris
See- if your not using Trisquel for freedom's sake wouldn't it be easier to use Trisquel's theme on Ubuntu instead? I guess that is what you were trying to do by sending the above email. Anyway. It seems like it might be wise to just stay away from the Trisquel forums in this instance.

Re: [Trisquel-users] What would make you become an associate member?

2012-06-07 Thread tegskywalker
No, the pretty interface was the first thing that got me interested in trying Trisquel and from then on I was able to change my daily habits to be more aware about free software. I learned to use different tools for programming and stick to free software and open standards for my daily use.