[Trisquel-users] Re : .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
Same problem: the core can be under the MPLv2 and everything around proprietary.

[Trisquel-users] Abrowser: weird flash and quicktime behaviour

2014-11-13 Thread vpincini
Hi everyone I'm a brand new Trisquel user. I have found something that really puzzles me out. On a fresh install of Belenos I'm not able to: 01. watch a flash video from youtube 02. watch a quicktime video from iTunes Trailers For the first one: Abrowser asks me to allow YouTube site to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't chromium-browser opensource?

2014-11-13 Thread onpon4
But you can study and change what libre programs do. That's a fact. You don't have to trust a libre program. If a program is libre, and doesn't do anything malicious, there is absolutely no reason not to use it. It doesn't matter how evil the developer is if you can tell, because you have

[Trisquel-users] Re : Mounting USB devices

2014-11-13 Thread lowe . thierry
Hi lap4fsf I am with 7.0 trisquel original (recent installation). At login, I do not have the opportunity to choose the Gnome session. So I installed the gnome-session package and reboot. At login, I have the choice Gnome session and session Trisquel (default). I choose Gnome session and I get

[Trisquel-users] Re : xscreensaver

2014-11-13 Thread lowe . thierry
Hi alucardx sudo apt-get install xscreensaver xscreensaver-data-extra xscreensaver-gl-extra = System Settings = Startup Applications = Add Name: xscreensaver = Command: xscreensaver -nosplash Set the screensaver. sudo killall gnome-screensaver sudo apt-get remove gnome-screensaver Disconnect,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't chromium-browser opensource?

2014-11-13 Thread shiretoko
If google made a great free operating system i would definitly use it, and the fact that it's made by google wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

[Trisquel-users] Duplicate Icons in Gnome Shell

2014-11-13 Thread lloyd
So I've just recently upgraded to Trisquel 7 (been using Toutatis since it came out) and I'm loving it so far. One problem I've encountered, though, is since installing gnome 3 shell, I have duplicate icons for many applications in the Activities menu. Not only are the icons duplicated,

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't chromium-browser opensource?

2014-11-13 Thread tobias
Apple is at least as bad as Google, and Trisquel includes some Apple software (Cups and Webkit). And the iThings[1] are much worse than most Android devices[2] and most Macs. It is also possible to install a free BIOS on some old Macs[3,4]. Using Apple or Google software is not a problem as

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
What is the problem? As long as the free software remains free software then that is a positive. Oh wait... you won't be happy until that piece of free software forces the other bits to have their source code made open when its not supposed to be. Isn't it true free software about giving

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mounting USB devices

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
Did you install the gnome-shell package too?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Abrowser: weird flash and quicktime behaviour

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
Check out this documentation page: https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/internet-video

[Trisquel-users] Re : Mounting USB devices

2014-11-13 Thread lowe . thierry
No, just gnome-session. Perhaps should we add gdm ?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Duplicate Icons in Gnome Shell

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
I do not think they are the called actually are the same. They are not on my system. For instance, Onboard launches the virtual keyboard, whereas Onboard Settings launches its setting window. Anyway, you can edit the menu using the Main menu utility (available from the Activities or from

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
You wrote that it was smart to go with a permissive license instead of the GPL and I pointed out that the main difference it makes is the possibility to surround the free core with proprietary software. Given Microsoft history, I even assumed it is their business plan. I have no sympathy for

Re: [Trisquel-users] Duplicate Icons in Gnome Shell

2014-11-13 Thread onpon4
Input Method / Keyboard: Those are completely different things. An input method is something like Anthy for Japanese input: using a small number of keys to produce a lot of different characters (think thousands). Onboard / Onboard Settings: As the name implies, Onboard Settings controls

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mounting USB devices

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
I have gdm install because I updated from Trisquel 6. I will try to remove it and see. But I assume you selected the GNOME session to use GNOME Shell, didn't you? So, you definitely need the gnome-shell package installed!

[Trisquel-users] Re : Isn't chromium-browser opensource?

2014-11-13 Thread cedricm33
Indeed. You're definitely right on that point. However, as I also mentioned, Chromium code includes unlicensed files, that is to say nonfree files. This might be the important part regarding the reason why chromium-browser is being removed by the trisquelize.sh script.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't chromium-browser opensource?

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
It is the fundamental issue: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=28291

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mounting USB devices

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
Confirmed: the GNOME session perfectly works without GDM.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't chromium-browser opensource?

2014-11-13 Thread superdude83
Apple, google and even microsoft along with many other big players have all contributed to the linux kernel. That is a fact. Fortunately we are talking about open-source code that can be and is being constantly reviewed by the comunity. Don't get me wrong onpon4 - what I'm saying is - I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser: weird flash and quicktime behaviour

2014-11-13 Thread vpincini
Hi Magic Banana Thanks for the ansewer and for the suggestion but I have already in my reserches (I am old schoold and I always RTFM first). But they don't answer my question.. Why Gnash and Totem-Mozilla does NOT working in Abrowser while they are working in Midori? I mean.. exactly

[Trisquel-users] Re : Mounting USB devices

2014-11-13 Thread lowe . thierry
No, I have installed gnome-session because I do not want to use gnome-shell. === To test I installed gnome-shell and obviously it works well. But I prefer Gnome3 trisquel sauce.

[Trisquel-users] Gnome-shell - Places status indicator

2014-11-13 Thread lowe . thierry
Hi With gnome-shell on an installation trisquel 7.0, can not install the extension 'Places status indicator' ; any idea ?

[Trisquel-users] Re : Gnome-shell - Places status indicator

2014-11-13 Thread lowe . thierry
Works with Gnome Classic

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
I'm also going with the angle of the ease of integrating with other FLOSS software that may be GPL incompatible, but is still under a free software license.

Re: [Trisquel-users] .NET Core is open source

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
I don't code in C# and mainly a Python guy on the desktop and server side, but will this improve Wine and make it easier to port Windows programs that were heavily dependent on .NET?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Duplicate Icons in Gnome Shell

2014-11-13 Thread lloyd
Well this is a fresh install of Trisuqel 7, and the only thing I've installed extra is gnome-session and gnome-shell. (Well, a few other little apps, but nothing that should cause this). Here's a screenshot of what I'm seeing: https://mediacru.sh/jgzjKOPYplNW

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser: weird flash and quicktime behaviour

2014-11-13 Thread kepeken
I decided to just uninstall gnash (as it seems to be inactive since early 2012, unfortunately) and I am watching all from HTML5. Is it possible that Midori isn't just loading from HTML5? Because Abrowser does this automatically for YouTube (and other supported sites) when it has no flash

Re: [Trisquel-users] Tp link librecmc wifi router on an isp modem with public address?

2014-11-13 Thread svhaab
The tp link wifi turned worse. It began to disconnect again and again. I rather think it is a matter of distance between tp link router and computer. I tried to make a 40mhz setting. Then the wifi could not connect. I tested the lan cable connection tp link and computer again. It seemed to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Possible Memory Leak?

2014-11-13 Thread Andrew Lindley
If you look at the upstream bug which will fix this it's scheduled for inclusion in 14.04.2 which is due February 2015. The Trisquel Issue is marked Upstream pending that.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser: weird flash and quicktime behaviour

2014-11-13 Thread vpincini
Hi Kepeken thank for you comment and for the suggestion I will try to remove Gnash and see if Midori is still capable to play the very same link. Anyway your intuition could explain Flash but it will not explain Quicktime, right? I'll try and I'll give you feedback Cheers

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser: weird flash and quicktime behaviour

2014-11-13 Thread vpincini
Hi Kepeken you were just right! I have removed browser-plugin-gnash gnash gnash-common and the video is still playing! Thanks man! At least half of this mistery has been nailed!

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 will be released next week.

2014-11-13 Thread Adfeno Huvlov
Note: Sorry if I'm replying in the wrong level again. Is there a way to update from 6.0.1 to 7.0 without having to install it as a new system? I sometimes check the repositories through Aptitude, and after updating the cache twice (since in the first time I get an error, something about not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Mounting USB devices

2014-11-13 Thread onpon4
The Trisquel environment is started by trisquel-session, not gnome-session. gnome-session is for GNOME Shell, which is the default GNOME environment.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Gnome-shell - Places status indicator

2014-11-13 Thread onpon4
Go to the Tweak Tool (under system settings), Extensions tab, and enable it there.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Duplicate Icons in Gnome Shell

2014-11-13 Thread onpon4
Keep in mind that half of these are not actually duplicates. The ones that really are duplicates seem to be there because Trisquel uses different programs by default than GNOME, and those that GNOME uses by default are either required or recommended by various GNOME packages. Try aptitude

Re: [Trisquel-users] Abrowser: weird flash and quicktime behaviour

2014-11-13 Thread onpon4
It sure could. Quicktime is easily replaceable by HTML5, too. Perhaps that iTunes thing you're talking about only works with the actual Quicktime plugin and not the Totem Quicktime-compatible plugin (I don't know why it would, digital restriction features maybe?), but provides an HTML5

Re: [Trisquel-users] Isn't chromium-browser opensource?

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
Same goes with Facebook and the btrfs filesystem. Many major improvements have been made to it in the newer kernels as FB has someone on staff who works on btrfs and pushes code to the main kernel.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Trisquel 7 will be released next week.

2014-11-13 Thread Andrew Lindley
The Trisquel 6-7 upgrade method is documented here http://listas.trisquel.info/pipermail/trisquel-devel/2014-October/000869.html But I don't know if it'll work with Triskel (KDE). So do those backups quidam mentions in the instructions. -- Andrew 'Leny' Lindley GPG Key fingerprint = AB3F DF36

[Trisquel-users] Are debugging symbols similar to Ubuntu's ddebs planned?

2014-11-13 Thread sstewartgallus00
See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash#Debug_Symbol_Packages The reason why I am asking is because the old style debug packages are hacky and bad. For example, the package libgl1-mesa-dri-dbg does not provide debugging symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so

Re: [Trisquel-users] Duplicate Icons in Gnome Shell

2014-11-13 Thread lcerf
Again: Onboard and Onboard Settings are two different commands using the same icon. That is the only repeated icon I see on the screenshot.

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-13 Thread superbyelich
I agree with fr33dom, We should shy away from cloud-based computing because by promoting it, we are promoting the control over others. Setting up one's own server and own personal cloud is a way to fight this. Peace, grimlok

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-13 Thread tegskywalker
I swear most of you free software evangelists are stuck in your ways with viewpoints that are over a decade old. What is wrong with deploying a Docker container on a hosting company if you have total control of that container?

Re: [Trisquel-users] More focus should be put on server installations

2014-11-13 Thread jason
I don't think people need help (i.e. hosting companies) putting their e-mail, photos, videos, calendars, address books, messages, documents (and whatever else they might put on their server) to third parties. The Internet-using public already seems exceedingly efficient at doing that.

[Trisquel-users] ath9k not free?

2014-11-13 Thread 77xzssxz5l
It appears my wifi needs the driver/firmware htc_9271. Debian says its non free. Why was it included in trisquel? https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-atheros