Re: [Trisquel-users] Kernel questions and Intel ME

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> This git repository has every version of Linux-libre ever, it all fits into > ~350MB, and versions will never disappear. Assuming those disks are backed up. -- Caleb Herbert OpenPGP public key: http://bluehome.net/csh/pubkey signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread ar018
> There are numerous mitigations for Spectre that won't work on libre > systems because they require (proprietary) microcode changes which > neither Trisquel nor I will provide. For obvious reasons of them > being proprietary. > I understand that those dedicated to software freedom would not >

Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> Youw website is also good but may I ask (genuine question) why do you think > so many people use google fonts api? Is there really no alternative? Copypasta JS magic is easier than actually, you know, hosting everything you want people to see. You can have the font files on your website and

Re: [Trisquel-users] Strange log after running QEMU

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> It is probably best to use the Dragora support resources, > OK? Except Dragora is tiny and its support is not realistic. Even Trisquel has poor support. My Trisquel system is a massive pile of workarounds, and it frustrates me. -- Caleb Herbert OpenPGP public key:

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Tor really that bad?

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 11:06 -0800, Mason Hock wrote: > I'm not aware of a TorBirdy equivalent for any other mail client. The > instructions for torifying an email client say to use Thunderbird instead > > https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/TorifyHOWTO/EMail > > and the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Is Tor really that bad?

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
Guns are the Tor of meatspace. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 21:44 +0100, gnu...@openmailbox.org wrote: > Distros were an example. I have a need to download various different files > and don't want to be revealed what I download. Not because it's "illegal" but > > because it's private. Sure :p The internet is for porn, Tor

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
ADFENO, there's a more blatant user freedom issue with Wire Desktop: its dependence on Electron. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Trisquel-users] Node.js free?

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
Node.js is fine, but Electron is questionable and needs to be audited for licensing issues. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-19 Thread bob
And in addendum to that, use the torrent links for ISO images instead of direct downloads where possible. It's a lot less costly!

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
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Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 15:48 +0100, dh...@fastmail.com wrote: > If family black sheep had grades, mine would be obsidian. > > I simply tell them that they have > already fucked their privacy and they are beyond help; they can figure out > how to reset their password on their own. I don't do

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> > The one's linked to from the FSF use libre JavaScript... > > I know that. I also do a little JS programming myself but that is not > important. LibreJS is just as good as 'free software' which may send packets > to Amazon. I don't see myself auditing every JavaScript code on every >

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 10:48 +0100, i_write_wo...@posteo.net wrote: > I have very little to add except for a caution: if you are a minor and maybe > even if you aren't, please do not email pictures of yourself to Facebook > addicts. Thank you for mentioning this. I never thought about simply

Re: [Trisquel-users] Privacy/Security services and software

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
Stop getting so many systems all the time. If you're distro-hopping, stop it. If you're really serious about switching to a distro, show you're serious by donating $50 to a distro every time you switch to it. Red Hat sells regular, no-tech-support versions of its distro for $50 each, and this

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sat, 2018-01-13 at 22:55 -0800, Mason Hock wrote: > Facebook is designed to addict its "users" with what its former > vice-president describes as "dopemine-driven feedback loops." > > https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/11/facebook-former-executive-ripping-society-apart > > Your

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> I am sorry for you m8. Get a job maybe and your place so you can distribute > fuckoffs in complete tranquility I'm not the OP, but I am in the same boat. I have a job, but it doesn't pay enough for me to support myself fully. Transportation is especially expensive! (More than $210 US each

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> I don't know if it is even possible now to protect a child from being > profiled by Facebook until they are old enough to protect themselves, but if > you do you will have given your child a choice, which is a great gift and > something I never felt that I had. Friends, esp. girls, will

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread jason
"I mean, don't this attacks have to be executed in my computer?" Yes. "If I don't use JavaScript in my browser, and only use free software, is there a way I could still be attacked?" It probably helps but a program being free software doesn't mean it's free of problems (a concrete example

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread arielgnu
If I don't use JavaScript in my browser, and only use free software, is there a way I could still be attacked? I mean, don't this attacks have to be executed in my computer?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread jason
"So perhaps it can't really be fixed with software patches but indeed just 'mitigated'." Indeed; they are all "mitigations." Plus: There are numerous mitigations for Spectre that won't work on libre systems because they require (proprietary) microcode changes which neither Trisquel nor I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Mason Hock
> https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/01/19/2210246/trump-signs-surveillance-extension-into-law Ugh.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread studio
> If only laws like this had a prayer of passing in the US. https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/01/19/2210246/trump-signs-surveillance-extension-into-law

Re: [Trisquel-users] faithful newbie to GNU Emacs: What do you recommend for web development with GNU Emacs?

2018-01-19 Thread happy_gnu
EmacsWiki: Site Map - https://www.emacswiki.org/ Practical Emacs Tutorial - http://ergoemacs.org/emacs/emacs.html

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Mason Hock
> I store them in Gnome Keyring. I store them in my head. :) > Nothing can save us from Spectre except a new CPU. Yep, and the new CPUs are sure to require a non-free BIOS. Spectre is very bad news for freedom and privacy. > Recently I started doing something which is probably silly: if I

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Mason Hock
> FWIW in EU GDPR which starts to apply in May 2018 the IP address is now > considered personal data, legally and must be anonymized. So software > vendors who provide such "features" or who close tickets because they are > not in the mood will perhaps be forced to comply with all that. Or who

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread studio
> another application could exploit Spectre to access your browser I store them in Gnome Keyring. Which of course is still unsafe to Spectre. Nothing can save us from Spectre except a new CPU. Recently I started doing something which is probably silly: if I have to enable JS for short in a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Are Big Sacrifice

2018-01-19 Thread ariella
Guys, good news. Leah gave me a super simple solution to get the kernel updated. It's ok to use linux-libre for the updated kernels, but then: ariella@/ $ sudo rm vmlinuz initrd.img ariella@/ $ sudo ln -s /boot/vmlinuz-4.14.13-gnu vmlinuz ariella@/ $ sudo ln -s /boot/initrd.img-4.14.13-gnu

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread studio
> A false sense of security is worse than no security at all, see --disclaimer That's a key point for all these tests. Remember that side-channel-execution is a hardware bug, not software. So perhaps it can't really be fixed with software patches but indeed just 'mitigated'. Whoever makes

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread studio
> Perhaps it is because of your time investment in your test that you weight your test far too heavily. No. It is because it shows something actual, not ideological or theoretical like "would be better... if". As soon as Firefox (or a derivative) shows a better behavior and overall

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread lolcaek
I'm knob, thought I already had done that. Meltdown was fixed: Spectre and Meltdown mitigation detection tool v0.31 Checking for vulnerabilities against running kernel Linux 4.14.14-gnu #1 SMP Wed Jan 17 15:33:18 UTC 2018 x86_64 CPU is Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU P8600 @ 2.40GHz CVE-2017-5753

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Mason Hock
Of course. Enabling JS is still unsafe, but the particular issue you link to relies on having the passwords stored in the browser. Even without JS enabled, another application could exploit Spectre to access your browser, so it is still wise to avoid storing passwords in your browser. I agree

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread calmstorm
Yep, I don't think that was needed. I think proprietary software is evil don't get me wrong, but this goes a bit too far as for what it actually is.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread calmstorm
Firetools + gufw + noscript in your web browser That's my thoughts... but yeah clamtk is better than clamav merely because it is a gui.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread calmstorm
Proprietary software is not always malware but it is very often malware. So often that it's a bit scary. Microsoft example #1 Google example #2 Apple example #3 adobe flash example #4 intel example #5 the list goes very long, but yeah... you are kind of right at least about it not

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread studio
> Is this code snippet copyrightable? Here is the full script: #!/bin/bash if [ -z "$1" ]; then echo "No link supplied as argument" exit fi # [i] http://funbutlearn.com/2013/02/direct-download-link-to-your-google.html echo $1 | sed -r -e

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Mason Hock
> Mason, some humans are more vulnerable to these malicious features My fear is that, even if there currently still exist people who are not susceptible to Facebook's manipulation, one day soon Facebook will acheive such efficiency that this is no lnger the case. Facebook isn't a naturally

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread studio
That doesn't matter. A script can log your key presses.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Community guidelines question

2018-01-19 Thread bob
Just to follow up on this, I'm now hosting the fonts myself! (The font files themselves are on an Amazon S3 bucket, but the CSS file that points at them is now on the server). Thanks again for the quality feedback :)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread mason
Yikes. I avoid saving passwords in my browser as well.

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread i_write_words
Mason, some humans are more vulnerable to these malicious features for more or less or analogous or metaphorically similar reasons as why some perfectly nice and heroically brave decorated combat veterans might prefer to politely decline your invitation to a fireworks show and why other

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread mason
> I think I have already done that. Right now I find Chromium least worse > because of the results of the test Perhaps it is because of your time investment in your test that you weight your test far too heavily. Your complaints are reasonable, but there is also a reasonable explanation for

[Trisquel-users] faithful newbie to GNU Emacs: What do you recommend for web development with GNU Emacs?

2018-01-19 Thread enmanuelsaravia
yes faithful newbie to GNU Emacs: What do you recommend for web development with GNU Emacs? what for API develop, backends, pure javascript or some framework?, Slim Framework or what better... an too its posible talk with servers providers, but i tell you i'm so-so newbie jejeje, english

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread julesverne
You could just use ClamAV like many suggested. Please lets maintain the manners inside this forum.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread Mason Hock
> Apparently the current packages in belenos are too old? Maybe. If so, you can get a newer kernel from jxself's repo.

[Trisquel-users] Re : Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread lcerf
They are, hence mason's advice: https://trisquel.info/forum/vulnerable-meltdown#comment-126601

Re: [Trisquel-users] Vulnerable to meltdown?

2018-01-19 Thread lolcaek
Hmm, installed latest lowlatency lts kernel: Spectre and Meltdown mitigation detection tool v0.31 Checking for vulnerabilities against running kernel Linux 4.4.0-93-lowlatency #116~14.04.1+7.0trisquel1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Aug 28 17:34:47 UTC 20 x86_64 CPU is Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU P8600 @

[Trisquel-users] Re : Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread lcerf
You were already told several times (by bobstechsite and onpon4) that ClamAV exists. It is free software. It is in Trisquel repository. And it aims at protecting Windows systems. So, no, Comodo is *not* the only available anti-virus that can be installed on GNU/Linux. SuperTramp83

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread svenerik_vn
> "devil, hell, Satan, a nightmare, it's the worst thing that may happen to your computer or smartphone, we are the best around" that escalated quickly

[Trisquel-users] Re : Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-19 Thread lcerf
With LibreJS, the "New issue" button does not do anything. And I believe one must have a GitHub account to file an issue. Signing up requires executing proprietary JavaScript too. If somebody here already has a GitHub account and does not care about executing the proprietary JavaScript

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread svenerik_vn
I sense great things. People call me and say I have the best senses.

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-19 Thread svenerik_vn
I think you misunderstood my question.

[Trisquel-users] Re : (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-19 Thread lcerf
Administrating an instance is not easy.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread foreign . mail
SuperTramp83, I never met a person so dogmatic like you in the computer/software/Internet field; "every proprietor software is malware, devil, hell, Satan, a nightmare, it's the worst thing that may happen to your computer or smartphone, we are the best around". If you read

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-19 Thread svenerik_vn
Is it advisable to use a public instance or set up own?:)

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread studio
Ok. I tried myself but I am getting an error during compiling of the browser. Their documentation seems incorrect. Then I tried simply running make but it asks for libdom which is not available on openSUSE's repo. So I gave up.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread greatgnu
Not only you installed proprietary malware but you also enlarged your attack surface. * every proprietary software is malware. Prove me wrong. PROTIP: you can't ** In order to work an antivirus needs full access to your machine, it needs root privileges and it is constantly and actively

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-19 Thread svenerik_vn
Yes. File at will.

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread greatgnu
>It is certainly not as bad as Facebook, and its decentralization prevents any addiction to it from being exploited by any one power, but it could still be psychologically harmful. Yes. I shall point out that I wasn't experienced at the time and was not prepared to the powerful influence a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread greatgnu
>How does it behave on the tcpdump test? Haven't tested it yet. Very lazy right now. Maybe tomorrow.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread foreign . mail
I suppose you noticed my sense of humor, don't you?

[Trisquel-users] Re : (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-19 Thread lcerf
See https://asciimoo.github.io/searx/

[Trisquel-users] Re : Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-19 Thread lcerf
I have just checked every .js and .css file in https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop/tree/master/electron and its subdirectories. The rest is HTML, JSON, and images, i.e., data. It looks like the Wire developer make a good job at inserting the GNU GPLv3+ copyright notice at the

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread svenerik_vn
> I am new in the forum and New in town. Fantastic!

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-19 Thread svenerik_vn
Oh, searX is a search enginge? I thought it was just some general nickname for "any search engine". What is it that makes searX "good" compared to others like StartPage for example?

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread foreign . mail
Hello onpon4, thank you very much for your really appreciated advice and suggestions. On Trisquel 7 operating system I'll use ClamAV/ClamTK rather than Comodo for Linux antivirus.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread onpon4
That's a proprietary program. I suggest you don't use it. If you want an antivirus program, that's ClamAV. Look for "ClamTK"; it's in the repo and acts as a graphical frontend for ClamAV. But I should note that antivirus on GNU/Linux is not for your own protection; it's for the protection

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread studio
It has always been the case in human history that when a particular entity gains power over certain resources it results in suppression, dictatorship, exploitation, misery etc. Yet people keep repeating the nonsense about how good it is to be ambitious, successful, "more than others", "a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread studio
> What do you use Google apps for? Which ones do you use? Gmail, Google Drive (rarely Docs), Calendar. > Evolution, LibreOffice and a shiny SFTP client/file manager plugin met my needs. I use them too but they can't replace the above.

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread foreign . mail
Hello bobstechsite, thank you very much for your advice, comments and the attached link; I really appreciate it. Until last year on my notebook I had the Ubuntu 16 operating system and I used the Comodo Antivirus for Linux. Early this year I moved from Ubuntu 16 to

Re: [Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread bob
1. Both 2. Either. Just make sure it's the "Ubuntu" version and matches your OS 3. AVG and Sophos support GNU/Linux as well I think If you want to stay "fully-free" (and you should, because you're using Trisquel!) you're better off with ClamTk. You can install it through the "Add/Remove

[Trisquel-users] Comodo antivirus for Linux

2018-01-19 Thread foreign . mail
Hello to all Trisquel Community, I am new in the forum and New in town. The only antivirus for Linux computers I know is Comodo Antivirus for Linux as of the link below: https://www.comodo.com/home/internet-security/antivirus-for-linux.php?track=8251 I have a

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sat, 2018-01-13 at 22:53 +0100, i_write_wo...@posteo.net wrote: > Does Riot still work? I never used the videoconferencing feature, but it's > what I'm using to communicate with my person in written English. Riot video works. I use it with my boyfriend. > The web app is/was easy to install

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sun, 2018-01-14 at 14:45 +0100, svenerik...@protonmail.com wrote: > I see. My problem when it comes to this is what I do after I do the: > > git clone https://github.com/wireapp/wire-desktop.git This program uses Electron. Most Electron programs are distributed in such a way that free

Re: [Trisquel-users] Videotelephony on Trisquel 7

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Sat, 2018-01-13 at 20:11 +0100, lc...@dcc.ufmg.br wrote: > I used to use http://meet.jit.si or http://vroom.im to do videotelephony > through WebRTC between two Trisquel 7 systems separated by an ocean (I live > in Brazil, my family in France). They do not work anymore. Maybe because of

Re: [Trisquel-users] (Trisquel 8) Problems with installing add-ons in Abrowser

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> (just a little though!! use searX \0/ ) The quality of their image search results, and the interface, reminds me of Google Images circa 2005. -- Caleb Herbert OpenPGP public key: http://bluehome.net/csh/pubkey signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 10:47 +0100, stu...@anchev.net wrote: > I also learned to download files with public access from Google Drive without > > having to log in to Google Drive or use of JS. If the link is to a file, it > can easily be converted to a direct link. Here is a bash script line

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 01:57 +0100, stu...@anchev.net wrote: > > You use Chromium desite not understanding every line of source code. You > have argued, and I agree, that this requires trust. > > I use it just because I haven't found anything better (privacy-wise). Appeal to Futility. :-( >

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> Coz it's fast like hell? Coz it's as fast as Links2 or Dillo but much more > usable? Hell yeah, it is! Links2 sux. -- Caleb Herbert OpenPGP public key: http://bluehome.net/csh/pubkey signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [Trisquel-users] Web Browser

2018-01-19 Thread Caleb Herbert
> I appreciate that, but since then you have seemed to only mistrust free > software developers by default, refusing to accept their software if you > can't understand every line of code yourself to prove that it is perfect, > while you seem quite trusting of Google, putting the burden on