Marrying a young girl (litterally: becoming master of the girl) is not
illegal in the Old Testament, Islam, Vedic tradition, nor is it illegal in
other eastern belief systems.
It is illegal in the global religion that the United States and Britian has
foisted upon the world and maintains
Ah yes, your US religion's doctrine of informed consent.
Which outlaws men marrying young girls no matter what.
I hope some day your doctrines go back to the hell they came from and we have
back the old ways where we could be ba'al of a girl.
But yes, ofcourse ofcourse, the greatest sin in
He stated clearly that just saying yes is not enough, since we can't be
sure if this yes was only spoken because of fear.
He meant real consent.
In my opinion, we can never be sure whether it's real consent or not in case
of children.
We would need the possibility to ask the child 30 years
On 03/08/13 05:32, erikthorsen wrote:
fucking little kids up the ass is fine so long as they say yes.
How exactly does a discussion about security in Trisquel evolve into a
discussion about anal sex?
Andrew.
Lol, thanks for the heads up :P
I might try it, do you know if they have a CD ISO, or do they work with DVD
ISO only?
Even RMS thinks child pornography is ok along with adultry, prositution and
necrophilia: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
Even RMS thinks child pornography is ok along with adultry, prositution and
necrophilia: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Richard_Stallman
This is absolutely wrong.
He thinks those things are ok as *long es no one gets coerced*;
this statement excludes almost every child porn on the net, so he
Yeah right, 'cause there's totally an easy way to determine coersion and
consent in the cases of child abuse, beastiality and necrophilia.. Please.
That's just a downright disgusting thing to say.
It's also a non-sequitur, because what RMS has said on the issue has nothing
to do with what vPro has said. vPro advocates the right to marry children,
RMS says he thinks child pornography can be consensual (he hasn't said
whether or not he thinks it's possible to know whether or not it's
Stallman lumps all those things together, thus he apparently thinks they're
related.
Really? I didn't see him do that. I only saw him mention them together
because they all have being illegal in common.
Looking at the actual source, he didn't even mention them together. Some
politician did, and he was just responding to that politician:
The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were
protected by the Constitution, prostitution, adultery, necrophilia,
...Yeah, so Stallman DOES lump them all together as equal and says that
fucking little kids up the ass is fine so long as they say yes.
So.. Thanks for proving my point..?
Where does he equate saying yes with lack of coercion?
How is this related to Trisquel? Why not discuss it in the offtopic
forum at https://trisquel.info/en/forum/troll-hole?
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Last I checked coersion simply means forcing someone to do something
against their will. Thus the antonym would be consent.
I didn't claim there is an easy way to determine coersion.
I think when we're talking about child abuse, we almost never can determine
the lack of coersion with certanty and so these things have definitely to be
forbidden and get punished very hard;
but talking about necrophilia - I think
I also think about buying a yeeloong but after everything I've read, watching
youtube videos / videos in general will be difficult.
I quote this link: http://b.mtjm.eu/lemote-yeeloong.html
Gentoo has patches making full-screen low quality YouTube videos playable
(used WatchVideo for this),
On 01/08/13 19:53, shiretoko wrote:
Don't know if it's possible to liberate gentoo; we could kick out
the default kernel and use linux-libre instead, but I don't know if
they have free-only repos.
I think Ututo is (or was?) based on Gentoo. But I don't know how
English-friendly it is. I recall
So I think you need some special patches for watching low-res-videos
(!) which are only provided by gentoo.
The fact that only Gentoo provides them is not important. No one had
applied them in gNS nor Parabola since e.g. they might depend on other
X.Org versions, recent X.Org broke other
He does talk about marrying little girls a lot around here, doesn't he?
There's probably some way to do it if you really wanted to, but why would you
want to? I honestly can't think of any positives of marrying a kid, or, hell,
even a kid that would want to be married at such a young age to
Yes, it's really a broken system by this point.
There are two alternatives to someone who wants to be a little bit safer:
1. Use something like Web of Trust. At least you have the power of community
to back you up.
2. Test the site fingerprint manually in
I don't think he is a pedophile (not what we would normally call one at
least).
Nor a troll. There seems to be something more to him than we see right now...
But yeah, he is annoying and a little crazy, agree on that.
Ahaha, your avatar actually looks like she just read vPro comments, asking to
marry her xD xD
Anyway, the point is... I totally agree with you, open standards are the
future! And I totally support them. But I was talking about a solution for
now, as in I need a free clean computer to use
What would really kick things off is a freedom friendly version of the
Raspberry Pi. Those computers are really cool (and for all we know, the
future of computing), but unfortunately there exists no freedom friendly
device like that yet (that I know of).
But just imagine, a ~$35 freedom
Hehe. =P Well, yeah, but they probably wouldn't be all nice and sexy
copylefted hardware. And there are other use cases too.. Then again, most
people have fancy smartphones now so yeah.
Well, they do link to an explaination on how to add the proper root
certificates.
As for the
Thanks for the link!
From what I read, the beagle board can actually use a free bios and can
work without proprietary drivers except for 3d acceleration. Let's face it,
it's the same problem we have in most laptops (graphics cards usually won't
have free drivers providing 3d acceleration)
Thanks Lembas. But, I know that I need to install that and I know how to dot
it. It's just that in order to keep my system safe I don't go around
installing anything just because some website says me trust me, install this
and dive in!
But yeah, If I need to actually take a look at
Lol, yeah, I was just making a joke :P
Already explained the certificate thing in above comment, and as for the last
statement =( damn! I was really getting excited (thinking that if Ubuntu
ran there, Trisquel would run too) and now, it all comes down to this.
Hum well, I will hardly
You're welcome.
It's just that in order to keep my system safe I don't go around installing
anything just because some website says me trust me, install this and dive
in!
This is a very sound policy. I think things from the repo are inherently
safer.
The whole situation with the
The Trisquel developers are doing more than just cleaning the Ubuntu
repositories, they take packages from others distros too, even directly from
Debian. I've also seen some other packages that are not from other distro.
What i want to tell is that they are working hard to make this distro
Not phoning home? A friend in my book :P But honestly, if I wanted a music
player and a calculator... I would buy a music player and a calculator :P
As for gnewsense, well, their latest stable was 2009 and ever since they
released 2 betas... Not what I call a solid development and support.
https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/single-board-computers
I haven't checked Parabola yet, mainly because the website has a unknown
certificate.
sudo apt-get install ca-certificates
Great to see so many updates coming in but why did this even happen? I also
thought that there is some kind of automatic synchronization with the Ubuntu
repositories. What if this happens again in the future?
I would be very happy to get an official response to clarify this stuff. Is
there
Yes, solve this bug
https://trisquel.info/en/issues/4528#
become a associate member
https://trisquel.info/en/member#
:)
I doubt that more money will directly lead to more updates, though I agree
that it is a good way to show your love.
If it's true that only two guys are running this whole distribution, there
needs to be another solution. Either:
1.) More core members
2.) A way to sync the Ubuntu repos with
Well, I hesitate to become a member because of the concept of the beneficial
dictator for life.
I don't know quidam and he may be a nice person, but I don't think a
dictatorship will encourage more people to join the development team or is
a good idea for any other reason.
Why not make
Moot point with intel (and amd?) AMT/vPro.
There is no security anymore.
Even if you de-provision it fully, it can always be remotely re-enabled.
Nothing at all we can ever do about this.
All haswell mobile CPU's have vPro / Intel AMT.
It is a hardware level backdoor that cannot be fully
Intel decides AMT will be in all it's CPUs.
AMD too.
They decided that because our feminist(not really related but they
are)/neo-liberal/good-person rulers decided they must put backdoors in
hardware.
You have to deal with that dictatorship.
Why complain now?
The society(people in
I guess one solution would be to stick with older machines for as long as
possible. If you can, avoid laptops, and use a tower with free software only
friend hardware.
It's not perfect but is a solution.
As for laptops, if you can get one from a trusted friend (someone who you
know didn't
Well, for those who want the latest and greatest all day, every day, there's
always Parabola.. =P Flip side of course being that you'd have to properly
install and configure Parabola.
That being said, quite frankly, anyone stupid enough to allow a something as
powerful as java to be executed
I totally agree with you, and I forgot to mention yeeloong. But as far as I
know, yeeloong won't run trisquel. =S
What are those nanonote?
True. =x But you could put Parabola or gNewSense on there.
It's a tiny pocket computer which can run LibreWRT. Open hardware and the
whole shebang. Think it's more or less out of production at this stage
though. =(
http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Ben_NanoNote
There's a big difference between Canonical, who runs Ubuntu, and Trisquel.
Canonicial puts a lot of effort into taking the Debian repositories and
making them stable for Ubuntu. These Ubuntu repositories are also used by
Ubuntu deriatives like Linux Mint and Trisquel. The big difference is
I went to read about Nano, it seems interesting, but yes, still can't think
of a use for it. Maybe soon I hope.
As for the Yeeloong, I don't really think I would change from Trisquel to
GNewSense. Just no comparison. Trisquel is more or less updated, it has a
solid users community, I
Well, least you can be sure it's not phoning home or anything.. 'cause there
are no radios.. And u'know. Music player and graph calculator I guess. =P
True, true. Not to mention it's quite a significant compromise in terms of
hardware. x) There is active development going on with gNewSense
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE SYNC THE TRISQUEL REPOS!!!
I second this!
I think Trisquel needs more developers, when you see the develpoment team,
you see only two people managing the project.
The good part is that even with this limitation, Trisquel is one of the best
pure free distros... but it still needs more.
Problem seems to be solved now - updates for abrowser, openJDK, kernel and
more today. Abrowser is now at 22.0, OpenJDK7 at u25 :)
Hooray! That's great news!
Trisquel is once again keeping up with the needs of the users. Still the best
operating system that I could use right now ;)
I thought the Trisquel repos automatically mirrored the Ubuntu ones daily and
blacklisted certain packages from being integrated. If that was the case,
updates like OpenJDK would show up that day and .it a week later.
There is much to learn, young padawan.
Well, this is indeed a very important issue, and we should all look at it as
a priority.
I don't have Java installed (any kind of it, free or not), and I don't have
flash either (gnash or flash or whatever). And for people who don't need
them, I would suggest you uninstall them.
Another
I fixed the OpenJDK issue by creating a separate ubuntu.list file in my
/etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory with my local Ubuntu mirror for 12.04 to
nab the main and universe repos. I had to manually import the Ubuntu Archives
key (since Trisquel does not have it), install OpenJDK u25,
I made a post about this earlier, but OpenJDK 7 has not been updated to u25
in the Trisquel repos and leaves everyone who has an older version installed
vulnerable. If anyone follows the Java world, it is always targeted for
attacks (especially the web plugin) and having the latest is ALWAYS
You are totally right! I also started a thread about this some time ago. [1]
This really needs to be adressed! Is there anything we as normal users
could do?
[1]: https://trisquel.info/en/forum/trisquel-update-policy
Yeah, being stuck at 21 for Abrowser isn't helping either. I may have to
manually update my OpenJDK from the Ubuntu repos if the Trisquel ones are
updated.
I've been using the latest stable Chromium (v28) from
https://launchpad.net/~alt-os/+archive/chromium while waiting for Abrowser to
Maybe Trisquel should put Abrowser on the long term support release of
Mozilla.
The ESR versions of Firefox still get updates, but those updates are point
releases like 20.1 and 20.2. I don't see the point of moving to ESR since the
browser has to be cleaned by Ruben with each update either way.
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