Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread Mason Hock
> Mason, some humans are more vulnerable to these malicious features My fear is that, even if there currently still exist people who are not susceptible to Facebook's manipulation, one day soon Facebook will acheive such efficiency that this is no lnger the case. Facebook isn't a naturally occur

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread i_write_words
Mason, some humans are more vulnerable to these malicious features for more or less or analogous or metaphorically similar reasons as why some perfectly nice and heroically brave decorated combat veterans might prefer to politely decline your invitation to a fireworks show and why other perfe

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread greatgnu
>It is certainly not as bad as Facebook, and its decentralization prevents any addiction to it from being exploited by any one power, but it could still be psychologically harmful. Yes. I shall point out that I wasn't experienced at the time and was not prepared to the powerful influence a

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-19 Thread studio
It has always been the case in human history that when a particular entity gains power over certain resources it results in suppression, dictatorship, exploitation, misery etc. Yet people keep repeating the nonsense about how good it is to be ambitious, successful, "more than others", "a winn

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-18 Thread Mason Hock
I don't mind verbose. $ supertramp -v > 'the eternal present' Word. This is my greatest fear, that the tyranny of mass surveillance and proprietary software will reach a level of efficiency such that it will be impossible to revive freedom or democracy or human dignity. In my mind this is a f

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-18 Thread dhood
If family black sheep had grades, mine would be obsidian. Firstly, you can't convince your family what they do with their time online; just like they can't control yours. Also, sometimes when you decide to stand up for your ethics you have to endure some negative outcomes. I am often the pe

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-18 Thread greatgnu
>Facebook uses its psychological profile of you to determine what information to display at what time in order to addict you. Yes. And it should be very scary for everyone with two brain cells. Unfortunately the average facebook user has only one. They are profiling you so accurately your mo

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread Adonay Felipe Nogueira
One thing that I find hilarious: Facebook may take and reuse all your multimedia that you publish there, but Facebook's terms of service says that you are only allowed to publish things that have you as the only author. Effectively, one cannot legally share in Facebook works under CC-any-variant, G

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread studio
https://yro.slashdot.org/story/18/01/17/2141212/facebook-is-a-living-breathing-crime-scene-says-former-tech-insider

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread Mason Hock
> "I have learned about so many things and met all new kinds of > people on Facebook." Facebook uses its psychological profile of you to determine what information to display at what time in order to addict you. As a side effect, you may find much of the information interesting. However, relying

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread studio
It seems to me you expect from people here to tell you how to talk to your family so that they listen to you and stop using Facebook. Ask yourself: Why do you want to modify the behavior of others? How is that different from what Facebook does? Are you able to love someone if he does stupid

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-17 Thread sophoclestechnologies
How does one go about responding to comments such as: "I have learned about so many things and met all new kinds of people on Facebook." "Through Facebook, I am able to share works that I have created quickly and to many people." "Most of the Web, including Facebook, exists because it is

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
I read the other thread and if not because of that thread I may have given up long time ago, so thank you for inspiring me to not give up.

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
1)I am living near them so there are offline interactions. 2) Alternatives I am currently trying to make them use alternatives such as Linphone, Seafile and Mumble. 3)I currently run a gnu social server but the interface is not facebo*k like so I think I may try to create a disapora pod. Than

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
I currently cannot get a job since I am still studying.

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-15 Thread sora
I can say that I am a teenager. I do not post photos to FB but my parents did (it was long time ago, but I manually deleted them) They now post photos of our other child family members and even has a facebook for them, they cheated the birthday so they created the facebook even though I am ag

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-14 Thread Mason Hock
> I have very little to add except for a caution: if you are a > minor and maybe even if you aren't, please do not email pictures > of yourself to Facebook addicts. You are right of course. Sadly, this did not even occur to me, because for myself and for everyone I know it is far too late to prev

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-14 Thread Cassandra of Troy
One more one more thing: You said: "it is all my fault for creating accounts for themĀ  years ago." I don't remember if I said the same thing on the older thread you just read but I know I have said it many, many times. My mates have told me to "stop beating myself up over it" just as many times

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-14 Thread greatgnu
>forced by family to do something that totally goes against ones ethics and integrity I am sorry for you m8. Get a job maybe and your place so you can distribute fuckoffs in complete tranquility > Is there any way for me to convince them that using and uploading pictures to those services

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-14 Thread i_write_words
I have very little to add except for a caution: if you are a minor and maybe even if you aren't, please do not email pictures of yourself to Facebook addicts. I am sad that my own non-local family can't know what my little boy looks like, but they can't be trusted with photographs and my pr

Re: [Trisquel-users] family privacy Again

2018-01-13 Thread Mason Hock
Facebook is designed to addict its "users" with what its former vice-president describes as "dopemine-driven feedback loops." https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/dec/11/facebook-former-executive-ripping-society-apart Your family's rationalizations for subjecting themselves to Facebook's

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