For non-Qt desktops LXDE sucks that's inactive and looks too ancient;
Budgie and GNOME suck that Budgie is too much dependent on GNOME and both are
Breeze-dark icons unfriendly;
Finally Cinnamon, MATE, Xfce are quite nice that no people are forced to
match GNOME icons with these desktops,
I don't like most of the desktop environments. I only really like XFCE, LXDE
and Budgie.
Qt is fine for some purposes, but not desktop environments. That's my opinion
anyways.
You seemly don’t very like Qt5 which LightDM is GTK3 written and LXDM is
GTK2 written. However you also dislike GNOME as well as Qt?
One of the Enlightenment Dev's has a ppa for ubuntu.
https://launchpad.net/~niko2040/+archive/ubuntu/e19
note: it still says e19 in the link, but the current version
he offers is 0.22.3
See no reason why it shouldn't work in Trisquel-mini ;)
I use lxdm and lightdm
But what’s your favourite DM? For me SDDM then if I also have installed
Plasma I can change SDDM themes at my needs.
I cannot pinpoint all of them, I just find plasma ugly that's all.
plus, I like GTK icons/themes for some reason.
Which themes are your favourite within Xfce4? For me mostly Breeze-GTK themes
from Plasma, that looks like Plasma in Breeze-Dark themes (of course I've
also installed real Openbox/Plasma), that I just hate GTK icons.
I don't have nearly enough interest or skill to do so. Besides, XFCE4 is
fine with me. :)
Then you will need to fork that not to make that dead. :)
Like a superman without a weakness? (1950's superman aka) ;P
In all seriousness though, lxde isn't dead but it will become dead in the
near future unless someone forks it. ;)
Afaik there's only two choices of live installers for Trisquel. Mini (LXDE)
and regular (MATE).
What am I missing?
RAM usage is only one criteria. There's also what the DE requires of the CPU
while idling, the graphics chips etc. It's precisely because the apps people
use these days have such high resource demands (including those delivered via
browser), that it's important for the DE to deliver what the
> "XFCE should be the next mini I think."
XFCE may have been a lightweight DE once, but these days it has about the
same resource usage footprint as Mate. This article is from 2016 but more
recent tests have come to the same conclusion:
Yes Enlightenment in Parabola is now already E22.
The two most lightweight GTK desktops, MATE and Xfce, in MATE I just can
enforce Breeze-dark theme from Qt just like the true Qt desktops like LXQt
and Openbox/Plasma.
However, in Xfce not everything can be darkened using Breeze-dark themes,
even using BlackMATE themes there still are stuff
This is true. I just wish that they could make Lxqt have an option to look
like LXDE. I wonder why this hasn't been thought of...
Absolutely.. Love Xfce. It has been my exclusive choice for loong time, then
at some point I found myself mixing it with LXDE that I just finally switched
to it and I can say, on old hardware, the difference is visible and
significant, really.
Again, no people are forced to be stuck on Openbox with LXQt, i.e. LXQt
grants a freedom to be flexible between different wm.
Also, you're also free to try different icon themes like Breeze and Oxygen
from KDE, Deepin themes from Deepin (DDE), Adwaita, Menta etc from GTK+
(that's the
You would like to make your own mini ISO for Parabola / Trisquel / Hyperbola
with Xfce desktop, Falkon (QupZilla) browser, Trojita mails, Telegram
desktop, Quassel IRC.
In LXQt the most ugly component should be Openbox that I quite ensure, I
agree this and you're free to switch window
I respectfully disagree, I really don't like LXQT's interface. it is majorly
ugly.
no offense.
XFCE should be the next mini I think.
I used to like LXDE the most, but yeah, it was when they decided to move to
qt5 I decided to go to xfce4.
XFCE is almost as light and supports changing desktop wallpaper depending on
duration. That is why I use XFCE now.
That and, LXDE is going to be no longer supported... ;(
Although
sudo pacman -Su --noconfirm --needed openbox plasma --assume-installed
discover # Parabola
sudo apt install -y openbox-kde-session # Trisquel
You can also install Openbox/KDE session.
So both for Parabola/OpenRC, Devuan, Trisquel, there are 5 choices of live
installers,
LXQt: many wm available; Falkon (browser); Trojita (Qt mail); Telegram
desktop (if any); Quassel (Qt IRC)
MATE mini: Epiphany (GNOME web); Balsa (GNOME mails); Telegram desktop (if
any); Polari (GNOME IRC)
That's the best to make LXQt, MATE, Xfce to be the desktops for upcoming
Trisquel mini, with Falkon browser, i.e. there are Trisquel LXQt mini,
Trisquel MATE mini, Trisquel Xfce mini available.
For the Trisquel full, Openbox/KDE is also nice, also with Falkon as browser,
Trojita as mail,
>LXDE is a dead project
It's everything but dead on my supersmooth laptop. My laptop flies, just like
superman, but better.
Unlike us, most people are not interested in endlessly tinkering with their
OS. That's why distros exist, so people can install a standard set of
software, and just get on with the work they want to use their computer for.
It's also the reason most people don't even know how (re-)install an
LXDE is a dead project (as is Midori). So the question is, what is the best
DE to replace it for Trisquel-Mini 9? Mini needs to strike a balance between
being user-friendly for noobs, which is what we want Trisquel to be know for,
and running smoothly on older hardware (given a specific set
If you enjoy wm instead of general DE like Plasma, GNOME, MATE then you are
free to match your favourite wm with LXQt, that General DE force you to run
their built-in wm. Thus LXQt is the future for the later DE that you're free
to match your own wm and the shell itself (LXQt for here) is
Ancient hardware just like whose processors are ia64, mips64, ppc64, sparc64,
or i386 etc???
Ancient hardware just like whose processors are ia64, mips64, ppc64, sparc64,
or i386 etc???
Being an KDE project for Falkon just doesn't ensure it to be too bloat, and
honestly Falkon just need a few Plasma deps. An OSM (OpenStreetMap) editor
named Marble, also has 2 channels, one is Plasma-independent and another one
is Plasma-integrated. I'm happy editing my OSM buses
>benchmarking
Well, take a very old laptop and then install all the DEs you want to bench
in whatever order and just use them briefly. Then the last one you install is
LXDE, you stop and you exclaim, quite shocked: geee, this LXDE runs like
hell!
LXDE FTW, no doubt. But try it on very
Wow! LXQT actually looks really nice, much more modern than the last LXDE I
looked at a couple of years ago.
loldier:
> "LXQt is a KDE lookalike. It has Plasma desktop and Falkon (ex-Qupzilla,
the browser) is a KDE project. I think it must be a lot more
resource-hungry."
Ae, I think
See the Moksha homepage link I shared a few comments back. Jeff's stance is
that the Enlightenment devs are far more concerned with scratching their own
itches than producing software that works for end users. Admittedly they are
genius scratchers, whose scratching has produced some amazing
> I can't speak for
> Parabola
I expect the experience with Enlightenment in Parabola to be the same as that
in Arch, which was not very good. At the time Arch/Parabola had E21, so maybe
E22 is better, but I found it to be much more buggy and crashy than E17 in
Trisquel.
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I tried LXQt (Fedora spin). It has Qupzilla, which is Falkon now in the
latest update (not yet in Fedora 26).
Fedora LXDE 26 is the same as Trisquel. Midori and the same age old
interface. It looks awfully outdated when compared to LXQt.
I'm not sure what to think. LXQt is a KDE lookalike.
"The best is to just install Enlightenment wm in your Parabola, Devuan, or
Trisquel systems."
As both Mason and I have said in previous comments, installing E17 in
Trisquel results in a broken user experience. I can't speak for Parabola or
Devuan, but it wouldn't surprise me if the same is
Dnt worry which I'm making few Parabola mini graphical ISO for you including
LXQt, Liri, Enlightenment, Xfce, wm-only ones and so on.
Most of most ISO are brought to you with QupZilla as the default browser,
which I need to intro my Qt small world advocate here.
The best is to just install Enlightenment wm in your Parabola, Devuan, or
Trisquel systems. yes Bodhi is nonfree.
Yes I would like to make few desktop ISO including Enlightenment as an
option, installing your favourite desktop using Calamares brought to you by
Parabola.
Finally got a live session of Mini up and running, and I have to say - with
all due respect to the hard work of the Trisquel devs - that I'm very
disappointed to see that Mini is not only still using LXDE as the DE (given
it's being discontinued in favour of LXQT), but that it's still using
Mason, the problems you describe with using E17 on Arch sounds very similar
to the issues I struck running it on Belenos (both main and Mini). You're
correct that Bodhi is not a libre distro, and this is not a priority for Jeff
(I asked on the Bodhi forums). However, AFAIK Moksha itself is
> https://www.enlightenment.org/
I used Enlightenment for a while. Its support for dynamic tiling eventually led
me to i3, but unlike i3 Enlightenment isn't scary to beginners. The only
problems I recall were that it seemed buggy and crashy in general (to be fair,
I was using Arch at the time)
BTW Trisquel-Mini was given a positive review in this list of lightweight
GNU-Linux distros, published in Feb, 2018:
https://thishosting.rocks/best-lightweight-linux-distros/amp/
I presume they tested the Belenos version of Mini, and it will be interesting
to see how the Flidas release
Given that it's been discontinued, I'm guessing something will replace Midori
as the default web browser in Flidas Mini? Midori was one of the main things
that put me off LXDE. Installing standard ABrowser or IceCat not only looked
weird, but added a lot of the weight back on that one uses
https://trisquel.info/en/wiki/trisquel-mini
LXDE is OpenBOX. Add obconfig and obmenu.
sudo apt install obconfig obmenu
gd_scania
>> But anyway you are of course free to install your favourite desktop using
apt
But anyway you are of course free to install your favourite desktop using
apt, simply you are not forced to be stuck at LXDE if uncomfortable. I would
like to recommend LXQt.
LXDE
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