On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:21:54 -0700 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy
wrote Jesus layed aside his former glory so he was
not on this earth as God...
And again later
she says Jesus did not come here as God.He layed aside
his former glory and took upon
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 23:43:08 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
John in bold print - we will have
to clean this up nexttime around, I think. n a message
dated 2/10/2005 6:26:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
The first Adam chose to do it without any
propensity.No he
In America any Church can have it's views and try to advance them in the public square but not in the back offices of Government or directly in the legislature as in the peoples republic of Utah
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BLAINE: Kevin, what do you expect? You SPs do the
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From:
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Sin
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:21:54 -0700 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL
Bill:IMO ONLY, Judy has 'rules of engagement' and
both you and John violate them.In so doing it is simply impossible for either of
you to have the conversation you could have with one another as your 'rules of
engagement' (yours Johns) are sufficiently similar to do
so.
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JD: So why is the creation of
Adam any different. I believe in the
"fall." I do not believe in a fallen
nature. Adam was always going to
sin. Christ was always going to come to his
rescue. And that is why I believe that to
disbelieve in the eternal Sonship of the Christ is to deny what
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:21:54 -0700 "Bill Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Judy wrote
Jesus layed aside his former glory so he was not on this earth as
God...
And again later she says
Jesus
did not come here as God.He layed aside his former glory and took upon
himself a body of
Well, I am definitely going to save this. Your comments at the conclusion or worth concern. Amen to the post.
JD
In a message dated 2/10/2005 7:10:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:36:14 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated
DAVEH: FWIW.No one on the other forum responded to my question.
David Miller wrote:
Perry wrote:
I am afraid running the question of whether JS
was baptised a Baptist through a LDS forum
will only get you the answer you want instead
of the truth.
Perhaps, but I
*'we'*, meaning clearly that
abilateral relationship exists with Pastor Smithson,
below
..perhaps that unity is essential
to your ongoing conversation?
..in certain wars the DMZ for the
North was also the DMZ for the South
..for now i think
the'bilateral' notion applies, dependingon
Don't know anything about "rules of engagement" - TT is
Rafferty's rules most of the time but once more you
are living in the world of Lance. Attached is a
review of one of "your boys" FYI and anyone else who might
be interested. The reviewer points out the
obvious contradictions but likes
Judy wrote:
So you claim Jesus was born with an innate
inclination or tendency toward sin? If this is
so then the wise men who came to worship
Him were fooled, and the angels along with
Simeon and Anna were false prophets because
they all called Him Holy.
An innate inclination toward sin
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Judy wrote: So you claim Jesus was born with "an innate inclination or tendency toward
sin?" If this is so then the wise men who came to
worship Him were fooled, and the angels along with Simeon and
Anna were false prophets because they all called Him
some feedback:
no 'RoE', below,implies an
eerie isolationism, perhaps like a mental handicap (to learning
'Truth')
further, maybe yourapproach
to hermeneuticsisbecoming clearer which is good; issummed up
in the notion thattrue Christians know 'Truth'before it is
learned
while true
Judy wrote:
The Brethren qualify because they are called
out, set apart, and sanctified - at least those
who are in Christ are; and they now have power
to overcome any and all innate inclinations
and/or tendencies.
Jesus also had innate inclinations and tendencies similar to us, but because
BUY TRUTH - DON'T RENT !
Pr 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
*'we'*, meaning clearly that abilateral relationship exists with Pastor Smithson, below
..perhaps that unity is essential to your ongoing conversation?
Subject: Call to Heaven
A man in Topeka, Kansas, decided to write a book about churches around
the country. He started by flying to San Francisco, and started working
east from there. Going to a very large church, he began taking
photographs and making notes.
He
Click the links for scans of the documents BalaineKevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Nephi." Millennial Star, vol. 3, p. 53 (1842)
"Again, when we read the history of
In a message dated 2/11/2005 7:12:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Then you have embraced a gospel very similar to that of Mormonism.
So what?
jt: So - that gospel is false and it is heresy. There is not a whole lot of difference between yours and theirs you are
In a message dated 2/11/2005 6:11:39 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Bill:IMO ONLY, Judy has 'rules of engagement' and both you and John violate them.In so doing it is simply impossible for either of you to have the conversation you could have with one another as your 'rules
In a message dated 2/11/2005 6:53:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
jt: Have you ever heard of "rightly dividing the Word of Truth" Bill? One can force scripture to validate anything when they come with a strong preconceived notion.
Coming from our friend, Judy Taylor (no
youhavesome for
sale?
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:36:52 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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BUY TRUTH
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In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you miss it?
What is so important about this list? Are you a LEGALIST need a bunch of rules?
You act like your ready to gloat cause you think there is no such thing. Yet it exists, is right in front of
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not intolerance.
He criticizes those who holler real loud that everyone needs to be tolerant,
but then they manifest the most intolerant behavior
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Judy wrote:
The Brethren qualify because they are called
out, set apart, and sanctified - at least those
who are
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It seems to me that you guys are talking about two different things. John,
aren't you creating a straw man argument here, trying to make Kevin argue
that unity is based upon full agreement with Biblical
Bill had asked (for the second time):Was
Jesus God with us, and if so, why did you say he "did not come here as
God," and if not, why do you say he is not Emmanuel?
jt answered: Have you ever
heard of "rightly dividing the Word of Truth" Bill? One can
forcescripture to
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In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard
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In a message dated 2/11/2005 2:12:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Your inability to supply such a list has proven your theology on this point to be an utter waist.
John
waist ( P ) Pronunciation Key (wst)
n.
The part of the human trunk between the bottom of the
this is crucial--all
postscarry interpretive baggage; obviously, jts 'science of
intepretation', theologically,is not yours; also, she maintains that it's onlyher
'science of intepretation' that perfectly equates to 'rightly dividing the Word
of Truth'
in the background,like
'stealth'is
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In a message dated 2/11/2005 2:12:51 PM Pacific Standard
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Evangelicals say Charles and Camilla
should have opportunity to repent -10/02/05
As Church denominations and groups issued statements of congratulations today
on the news of the Prince of Waless engagement to Mrs Camilla
Parker-Bowles, the body representing one million Evangelicals in
From WorldNetDaily.com:
Friday,
February 11, 2005 Last updated 9:55 a.m. PT
Swedish
pastor is acquitted on appeal
By
MATTIAS KAREN
ASSOCIATED PRESS WRITER
Swedish pastor Aake Green poses in
his church in Borgholm, Sweden Friday Feb. 11, 2005.
ftr, a near perfectexample
of anti-intellectualism ina 'knowing w/o learning'style of
intepretation:
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:55:42 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
OhI thought maybe
you meant udder waist.
Iz
Moderator's
Note:
Since people haveplenty
ofprivate access to these stories in myriad internet sources, please
briefly summarizesuch'news' and postit with a reference link
included--that will be sufficient to communicate your interest to
us.
Thank you.
G
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:06:54
BLAINE: Thank you for taking time to look these up. But I see no problem
here. The names Nephi and Moroni both sound a lot alike--it is likely people
got the two confused when writing down what they heard Joseph say.
Also, the first vision and the angelic visit are separate events: the
I think it would be more likely the two lesbians taught each other--no parents
involved--as they got engaged. And it was so much fun they decided to try it
again--and again--ad infintum. LOL
-- ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
According to that premise, all Lesbians were the children
It is readily available[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you miss it?What is so important about this list? Are you a LEGALIST need a bunch of rules?You act like your ready to gloat cause you think there is no such
So sodomites it is then![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not intolerance. He criticizes those who holler real loud that everyone needs to be tolerant, but
Try it with your wife
Thats what happened with all those other details also.
Some of the most unusual excuses since I caught the kids in the cookie jar"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: Thank you for taking time to look these up. But I see no problem here. The names Nephi and
All accounts DO NOT include two individuals!
Most accounts do not for instance the 1832 handwritten acct of Joe
http://www.lds-mormon.com/fv.shtml
I cried unto the Lord for mercy forthere was none else to whom I could go and {to} obtain mercy andthe Lord heard my cry in the wilderness and while in
Joseph was responsible for these news articles so he must have got mixed up"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
BLAINE: Thank you for taking time to look these up. But I see no problem here. The names Nephi and Moroni both sound a lot alike--it is likely people got the two confused when
As it relates to the
current discussion on the human nature of our Lord, Judywrote
Jesus partook of
human flesh without partaking of the effect of Adam's blood. Heb 2:14
says "forasmuch then as the children are
partakers of flesh and blood
he also himself likewise
Kevin Deegan wrote:
So sodomites it is then!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not intolerance.
He criticizes those who holler real loud that
In a message dated 2/11/2005 3:56:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OhI thought maybe you meant udder waist. Iz
My humor often rises to the level of a thoughtful listener. The fact that you see "udder" in "utter" proves, to me, that you are one of the thoughtful.
JD
In a message dated 2/11/2005 6:06:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It is readily available
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Did you miss it?
What is so important about this list? Are you a
In a message dated 2/11/2005 6:28:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So sodomites it is then!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not
Biil never tire of offering your opinion on these matters. A very beneficial post. Your lexical aides are interesting. When we get together, I will bring my 1935 A.T, Robertson Greek grammar --- we can stand above the book, holding lite candles and hum or something !! Cool.
JD
In a message dated 2/11/2005 8:06:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
How about perverts? That should cover the whole filty disgusting bunch.
Terry
Depends on whether you are trying to help them or not. The behavior is very disgusting.
By "help them" I am talking about
Never mind, Judy, I found it. Your statement is the
opinion of apreacher namedDr. DeHaan of the Radio Bible Class, but
he doesn't give his sources either. It seems like he should have told you (and
by extension us) of the obscurity of hisdefinition for this word.
He wrote: "In Hebrews
Dont be so hard on JDhe tries
hard. J Iz
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ftr, a near
perfectexample of
I tried but the link wouldnt
work. Next time.
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Hows that for a way with words! J Izzy
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How about perverts? That should cover the whole filty disgusting bunch.
Terry
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Anyone who believes that Unity in the Faith is non-existent apart from
speaking and thinking the same thing (as extended to a
specific set of teachings) is a legalist.
JD
Dont you mean to say same
thang? Iz
that the term
'sodomites', below,includes purveyors of perversionssuch
asgossip and gluttonyreinforcesabiblical learning curve,
Terry
'sodomite'actually readsas a reference to those who
dwelt in Sodom, where, acc to Scripture, there were numerous/various
injustices
E.g., Sodom's
(ftr,one
currentsource of 'the summary with a link' concept--this is a good
approach to citinginfoperhaps a fewpeople, not
everybody,may require)
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 18:12:11 -0800 (PST)
Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
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Click the links for scans of the
documents..
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Thanks, John. But you'd better leave your
Robertson'sat HOME! It might get misplaced along the way.
Bill
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whowillrise to the
level of his thinking?
On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 00:02:08 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dont be so hard on
JDhe tries hard. J
Iz
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