I believe that the LDS church was growing quickly a few years ago. That growth has slowed to a trickle, or no growth.You must consider the retention rate as of late,but the church holds certain information secret.
Why do you think some LDS got so upset about the news articles?Dave [EMAIL
Probably similar to the Masonic Lodge. I know their
rituals are from the same root. I hear that
membership in the Lodge has dwindled also - do you know
much about this Kevin? jt
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 04:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I believe that the LDS church
The Lodge?
or the Lodge/craft in Mormonism?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Probably similar to the Masonic Lodge. I know their rituals are from the same root. I hear that membership in the Lodge has dwindled also - do you know much about this Kevin? jt
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DAVEH: I find your perspective on this to be rather interesting,
Kevin. I think you seriously underestimate the strength of the Church,
based on your misinterpretation/misunderstanding of a newspaper
article. But, as before...you will believe what you wish, though it
may may be inaccurate.
As you read my response, please note the two underlined phrases at the very beginning. It appears that you missed my parenthetical.
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deegan and I are clearly not in the same boat BUT. I do think you are missing the point he is making on this, DH. blaine has hung his
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Perspective , perspective, perspective. If I am headed in the
same direction as others, the left , or much of it, is on the right.
JD
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In the original text, the goats are on
The links stated something to the effect that the LDS Church was the only one that withheld retention numbers.Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
DAVEH: I find your perspective on this to be rather interesting, Kevin. I think you seriously underestimate the strength of the Church, based on your
Yes -- but I wasn't refering to the original text. I was referring to the original bit of judgmentalism.
Jd-Original Message-From: Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:16:51 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Theology from a Heretic
I've lost the email not - but yes Kevin I did mean the
Masonic Lodge
Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were both Freemasons and
from what I understand these
rituals are part of the Temple ceremonies in SLC
jt
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:31:17 -0700 (PDT) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Judy, you misunderstand. The BIGGEST influence in your life is the
Spirit of God. I never meant to list influences to the exclusion of
him.
Allof us have beeninfluenced by Augustine, Calvin, our flesh,
Satan, etc. The Bible teaches us that all have sinned and fallen short of
the glory of
Will America
be nuked on August 6th? http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45562
izzy
Debbie, have you ever heard a liberal say
that he is on the Right??? J izzy
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Jesus didnt do a lot of explaining,
did He? izzy
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Yes, unfamiliar things require more
I agree with your analogy. The question is, do you agree with mine?
David.
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Actually, David, I think I will go with my analogy if
In that case never mind
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Yes -- but I wasn't refering to the original text. I was
referring to the original bit of judgmentalism.
Jd
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If only theyd just nuke the
perverts!
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Will America
be
I'll accept Satan and the flesh David but - Augustine
and Calvin were not big in Australia when I was growing up.
Not in the circles I moved in anyway. Maybe you
could explain how and in what ways they have influenced society
Otherwise to me this is just the reverse ofLance
telling us we
By "not big", do you mean their names were not much
mentioned, and they weren't much quoted? That has little to do with it. The
biggest influences are quite often not known by name and not consciously
recognized.
Debbie
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So Debbie do you believe ppl are led about by an
unconscious or subconscious mind or something like
that to whichAugustine, Calvin and the
enlightenment have heavy input? What proof do you have for this?
jt
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:11:55 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By
"Home" in my analogy is "salvation." I do not know what "home" represents in your analogy.
JD-Original Message-From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 18:06:13 -0400Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Re:John 16:13,14
I agree with your analogy.
I have a couple of bridges I am trying to unload. Any takers? -Original Message-From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 16:59:45 -0500Subject: [TruthTalk] American attack coming?
Will America be nuked on August 6th?
You.
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So Debbie do you believe ppl are led about by an
Cute.
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005 19:42:33 -0400 "Debbie Sawczak" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You.
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the observation
extends to who has influenced her more, e.g.,Calvin or
Pavlov?
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You.
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Liberals always think they are rightShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Debbie, have you ever heard a liberal say that he is on the Right??? J izzy
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Where was that chapter on Spiritual Death?ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jesus didnt do a lot of explaining, did He? izzy
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regardless,
elitistssimply launchtheir own attacks, esp when there's no other
waytoelevate the price ofoil
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Will
Right is right (thats why its
called the Right), and the Left is whats left (wrong). J iz
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I think you know them all, Kevin.
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Where was that chapter on Spiritual Death?
ShieldsFamily
Here is the Sure sign of the nail
http://www.mrm.org/multimedia/images/sign-of-the-nail.html
How one could believe that secret hand shakes, secret passwords and pilsbury Dough boy outfits make for passage into God's presence, is beyond me.
Handshake to pass thru the veil
http://www.bible-researcher.com/links03.html
DAVEH: I did not find that one (post the link if you can find it), but
did run across several instances where the growth rate is stated to be
positive, though less than previous years.
In fact, according to the church's own accounts, the growth
rate is declining! In 1996 the church
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