Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread knpraise
It appears there are two judges  -- The Judge and The Impostor.  If judgment has to do with bringing ppl into the relationship  [and such is the only judgment presented to the modern day saint] , the judgment is easily assessed.   Drive them [the ppl] away and the judgment is not of God.   "Impost

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
(..wanna bat against me? :)   On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:35:48 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: the Judge himself actually judges ppl with understanding, gentlemen--he engenders understanding with wisdom and righteousness as he goes, as he renders truth truthfully among us who know him--

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
the Judge himself actually judges ppl with understanding, gentlemen--he engenders understanding with wisdom and righteousness as he goes, as he renders truth truthfully among us who know him--the stark contrast of your spirits & methods provoke me (to comment:) (in this context:)   On Mon, 1

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
    On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 19:22:14 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:     'inspections' rank among prerequisites for Satan to 'appear' (lookin' like jt's God to you[?])       On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:46:24 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:    

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
..& the Moderator smugly postures himself the same way as you do, Bro; e.g.:   On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 06:21:13 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "..not to [separate the two G] would make one prone to error.   Error #2"   On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 20:12:39 -0700 [EMAIL PROTE

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
- Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 12, 2006 15:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. you copied and pasted...from another site without actually going to it   ^

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
    'inspections' rank among prerequisites for Satan to 'appear' (lookin' like jt's God to you)       On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:46:24 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:       - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sen

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
keep in mind--you asked me to expand certain thoughts in this thread for you--what you read, below, are certain thoughts, or thinking dynamically expanded, as you requested; however, think of me as a pitcher, Bro--you're at the plate (imagine this) with a beautiful Minnesota white ash Micke

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
  the grammar of the verse, below, is structured carefully by a non-judgmental author through the power of the HS--it follows the pattern of true prophecy    On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:35:10 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: - Original Message - From:

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
    intrinsically, below, you've postured yourself to (be) Judge     On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 11:13:46 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:  I have withheld judgment   ||   - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglor

Re: [TruthTalk] The door to understanding

2006-02-13 Thread knpraise
In the biblical concept of the “church” I see an avenue for  continuing revelation, and if not “revelation,”  certainly “interpretation” or “understanding.”   If you will, it is in the counsel of many that our understanding of the biblical text is expanded and/or confirmed.     How important, it

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Dean Moore
  cd: Gary be a little nicer and I will answer you questions-until then:-(   - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/13/2006 12:29:43 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. ...e.g., if in your Judgement a few brethren get lost some

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-13 Thread knpraise
Funny.  I just don't see David as ever having been young.  :-)   jd   -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > You guys are just upset you didn't get ahold of me when I was young and > ignorant. Maybe if you had encountered me when I was 8, you coul

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/13/2006 10:35:13 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.     On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:17:48 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Why [does] Satan appear as a angel of light [p

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/13/2006 7:35:51 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. So then, Dean, are you beginning to adopt a style of writing/communicating that favors the oblique? Did you not recent

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/13/2006 5:33:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. What, Judy, do you mean by 'consistently'? (Sorry Dean but I fear Judy's full meaning may not be covered by 'Webster'

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/12/2006 11:36:04 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.   [*in JCs judgement, his brethren both already do have &] will  have happiness beyond understanding cd: True Gary but what

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-13 Thread David Miller
You guys are just upset you didn't get ahold of me when I was young and ignorant. Maybe if you had encountered me when I was 8, you could have played me like playdough. Surely you both understand that if I appear incorrect and immoveable to you, then you likely appear incorrect and immoveable

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
Someone else who notices! Thanks Blainerb!! - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 13, 2006 14:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:0

Re: [TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-13 Thread Blainerb473
In a message dated 2/13/2006 12:02:28 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the

[TruthTalk] Behind the scenes conversations re:David Miller

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
I've not forgotten you, David. IMO, you are both incorrect and immoveable on at least a portion of that which is under discussion. What I've got to determine is whether or not it is worth the 'ink' to engage further with you given what I've just said. I'm checking around with some who've rea

Re: [TruthTalk] ALL conversations beginning with any variation on 'GOD TOLD ME TO/THAT..'

2006-02-13 Thread knpraise
Yet, it is perfectly clear that some [bizarre] doctrinal comments are not the result of the direction of the Spirit and need no refutation.  There is proverbial commentary that directs us away from wasting effort against the nonsensical..   jd   -- Original message -- From

Re: [TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

2006-02-13 Thread knpraise
Not to mention the fact that the "spirit of the anti-Christ" is rooted in a misunderstanding as relates to the eternity and divine nature of the Incarnate One.    jd    -- Original message -- From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > The term "Anti-Christ" is a buzz word f

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread David Miller
Gary, please consider that if I was judging ppl here, I would not have said, "I ... still don't understand."  I have withheld judgment because I don't have all the facts and you certainly have not volunteered much in the way of clarifying.  Are you pleading the Fifth?   David Miller. -

Re: [TruthTalk] ALL conversations beginning with any variation on 'GOD TOLD ME TO/THAT..'

2006-02-13 Thread David Miller
Not more than someone claiming that God might not agree with them.   If you are going to suggest that God does not agree with a particular believer's stance, you should point out how through Scripture why that is so.  Otherwise, it appears that you assume the other person has not prayed and

Re: [TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

2006-02-13 Thread David Miller
The term "Anti-Christ" is a buzz word for Biblical scholars and spiritual individuals. Studying the books of Daniel, Revelation, 2 Thessalonians, the epistles of John, etc. give us insight into the nature of this spirit. For example, consider a phrase like, "Neither shall he regard the God of

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
    On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 07:17:48 -0500 "Dean Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Why [does] Satan appear as a angel of light [partic to fruit inspectors]

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
her comment presupposes that the Moderator ain't the true Judge--wannabes like locusts, man; even all over each other to rule the world, eh?    On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 05:33:18 -0500 "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What, Judy, do you mean by 'consistently'? (Sorry Dean but I fear J

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread ttxpress
then, like the Moderator, you also Judge ppl in your finitude within v narrow human limits (with perfection, of course)   On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 10:12:57 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: What I did not understand, and still don't understand, is why Gary did not post the oth

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: > Am I to assume that YOU would be incapable, > ... of making a legitimate case FOR the maltreatment > of AT LEAST those three groups I mentioned by believers? Yes, you should assume that. I could not in good conscience make a legitimate case that society in general grossly mistreat

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
Kudos to you for once again identifying the 'syntactical' error by Lance, Debbie, Gary (et al if applicable). THE OPPOSITE OF KUDOS TO YOU for once again failing to address the 'semantical' issue at hand! Please demonstrate that you know what that (the issue) is and grant us the benefit of y

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread David Miller
And?    I stated that the quote from Clement that you posted as evidence of Christians having the wrong attitude toward Christians appeared to be bogus.  What apparently you did was ask Debbie to help, and she apparently went to the Atheists / Skeptics sites and obtained some 'evidence' for

[TruthTalk] [truthTalk] Re revealed knowledge

2006-02-13 Thread knpraise
I read an aritcle by NT Wright this morning in which he spoke of  the "beginning" of understanding.  And in  conversation with Bill Taylor, recently,   he commented on just how wonderful it was that our knowledge of science (specifically) put us in  a better postioin, as theologians,  some of what

Re: [TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
Judy:Could 'believers' believe 'false doctrine or theologies of men'? - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 13, 2006 08:13 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
Judy:I mean by 'believers' (and, hereafter shall always mean) those born from above, those participating by the Spirit in the Son's communion with the Father.   As to the second part of that which you said, I'm unclear as to your meaning.  - Original Message - From: Judy

[TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Judy Taylor
Lance, the problem it appears is with your definition of "believer" As to the assumption below - I for one would say YES. Believers have certain fruit in their lives and it is not the kind you describe here.   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>David:   Am I to assume that YOU would be inc

Re: [TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

2006-02-13 Thread Judy Taylor
The spirit of anti-Christ is not only a spirit coming against Christ as in those who crucified Him.  It is also a spirit that stands "in place of" the real Christ as in a false doctrine or theologies of men that make ppl complacent and give them a false peace.  judyt.       On Mon, 13 Feb 200

[TruthTalk] ALL conversations beginning with any variation on 'GOD TOLD ME TO/THAT..'

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
Does such shut down any conversation entailing disagreement?

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
So then, Dean, are you beginning to adopt a style of writing/communicating that favors the oblique? Did you not recently rail against Benny Hinn? Assuming that he were doing so, is G not entitled to adopt a stance other than your's or DM's? (I then answer my own question) Of course he is AND

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Dean Moore
      - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 2/13/2006 12:06:09 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. ..& his brethren ain't required to be present at your Judgement as you arbitrarily split them into categories which suit your pr

[TruthTalk] "The spirit of Anti-Christ"

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
This has been/is being bandied about by David Miller et al. Perhaps it'd be helpful for those employing it to explain just what it is that they mean when employing it.   L

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
David: Am I to assume that YOU would be incapable, excellent researcher that you are, of making a legitimate case FOR the maltreatment of AT LEAST those three groups I mentioned by believers? Am I to assume that, over the course of the last 20 centuries, believers have not, regularly and, over

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
What, Judy, do you mean by 'consistently'? (Sorry Dean but I fear Judy's full meaning may not be covered by 'Webster' or...)   - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 13, 2006 04:56

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Lance Muir
And? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 12, 2006 15:02 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit. LOL.  I found the link to it in YOUR post.  LOL.  I just wondered why you didn't share

Re: [TruthTalk] Fem. God- Dave H. get bathing suit.

2006-02-13 Thread Judy Taylor
  ONLY when they consistently walk in the light as He is in the light ..     On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 21:32:34 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [*in JCs judgement, his brethren both already do have &] will  have happiness beyond understanding         -- On