Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-24 Thread David Miller
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? As far as I know, temptation preceeds sin and sinning. And temptation appeals to personal desire (called lust by James). Human nature is sin nature. I do not mean to say that a sin nature sins

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-24 Thread knpraise
Hello, David. My comments below . I don't disagree with your understanding that the root of temptation is found in the lust of our flesh, but the forcefulness of that flesh to move us in a certain direction is not the same in all people now, and it was not the same in Adam Eve before the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/22/2006 9:09:34 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Are you saying that Christ sinned and served Satan John? Notice 1John started by warning of deception-He

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread David Miller
JD wrote: Regarding Adam and Eve - if they did not have a sinful nature before their decision to disobey the Lord, they would have never disobeyed Him !! What is your basis for this assumption, John? Consider the following passage: Ezekiel 28:15 (15) Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Lance Muir
DAVID: Do you intend to answer my questions concerning your thesis? Lancel - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 23, 2006 08:57 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? JD wrote: Regarding Adam

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Do you intend to answer my questions concerning your thesis? Sorry, Lance. I have lots of unread messages. What thesis? What questions? David Miller -- Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that you may know how you ought to answer every man.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Lance Muir
Ph.D. thesis, David. Title, chapter headings, availability to be read? That one! Lance - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 23, 2006 09:18 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Lance wrote: Do

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread David Miller
Lance wrote: Ph.D. thesis, David. Title, chapter headings, availability to be read? That one! In my biology program, we did not have a thesis for the Ph.D. We had a dissertation. I never completed this part of the Ph.D. program; hence, I never earned a Ph.D. My Master's thesis concerned

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks David. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 23, 2006 13:38 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Lance wrote: Ph.D. thesis, David. Title, chapter headings, availability to be read

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-23 Thread knpraise
As far as I know, temptation preceeds sin and sinning. And temptation appeals to personal desire (called "lust" by James). Human nature is sin nature. I do not mean to say that a sin nature sins !! Christ had this very nature - I believe you called it "sinful flesh" on several occasions in the

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread Dean Moore
of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 12:23:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I know this is too

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread Judy Taylor
not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 12:23:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I know this i

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/22/2006 8:05:45 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Hallelujah!! Thank you Dean. Maybe now we can make some headway; you are right on the mark

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-22 Thread knpraise
vil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. - Original Message - From: To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org;TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 12:23:27 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I know this is to

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
cd: Bill I have condenses articlewritten by Darby: Do you agree with it?If not why? This shews us the Christ standing in the midst of those who are saved, whom God brings to glory, although at their head. It is this which our epistle sets before us — He who sanctifies (the Christ), and they

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 21, 2006 07:08 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? cd: Bill I have condenses articlewritten by Darby: Do you agree with it?If not why? This shews us the Christ standing in the midst of those who are saved, whom God

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 7:17:47 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? One would assume, Dean, that herein lies something of your own understanding on the matter at hand. Why not draw

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Taylor
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 6:26 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Ah! This then would put JND in the position of denying that which Bill Taylor is affirming. Allow me to suggest that if JND's understanding

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 8:26:24 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Ah! This then would put JND in the position of denying that which Bill Taylor is affirming. Allow me to suggest

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Lance Muir
a little short. Thereafter, I'd ask him to read the balance of what I said. - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 21, 2006 09:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? - Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread Dean Moore
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: 1/21/2006 9:26:25 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? 1. Yes cd:Then if I prove myself right you will have to live with your hersery or repent to God and others whom you called

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-21 Thread knpraise
I know this is too long -- but please take the time. I was having one of the moments in the Lord. If doesn't work for you, then it was just for me. I can live with that !! jd -- Original message -- From: "Dean Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] cd: Bill I have condenses

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Taylor
al Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? cd: To help us understand each other better: What part do you not agree with the below written by Darby.

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 20, 2006 07:44 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Hi Dean, thanks for caring enough about this subject to search out and post this. I hope you do not mindifI decline comment, as it is much too long to critique point by point. I would prefer

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Taylor
Scripture. Is she unaware of that too? I don't think so. Bill - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 5:45 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? IFO and, I may be the last

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Sent: January 20, 2006 08:04 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? I will still entertain that possibility, Lance; however, it is becoming rather obvious to me that her constant attacks against the early fathers (not to mention every other theologian we hold dear

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Judy Taylor
well. Take care, Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? cd: To help us understand each oth

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Judy Taylor
well. Take care, Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] J

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread David Miller
Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history would want to hold the early fathers in such honor and follow their example. With their politics, heresy hunting, banishing those who didn't agree with them etc. Where is the love? and faith for that matter. Why choose dead

[TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Judy Taylor
From: "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history would want to hold the early fathers in such honor and follow their example. With their politics, heresy hunting, banishing those who didn't agree with them etc. Where is the love? and faith

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread David Miller
] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history would want to hold the early fathers in such honor and follow their example. With their politics, heresy hunting, banishing those who didn't agree with them etc

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Well said, David. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 20, 2006 12:19 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history would want to hold the early

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread Lance Muir
Well said again, David. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: January 20, 2006 16:09 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? Hi Judy. Calvin is generally NOT considered a church father. I think over

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread knpraise
- Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: truthtalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David? From: "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Judy wrote: I am amazed that anyone reading Church history &

Re: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-20 Thread knpraise
sources from Church history. This to me speaks not only to her theology, but to her character as well. Take care, Bill - Original Message - From: Dean Moore To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:10 AM Subject: [TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, Dav

[TruthTalk] Judy, Lance, Bill, John, David?

2006-01-19 Thread Dean Moore
cd: To help us understand each other better: What part do you not agree with the below written by Darby. By the way I just found this. Heb 2:1-18 - This is the reason why it is so much the more needful to hearken t the word spoken, in order that they should not let it pass away form life