Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-17 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > NO ONE believes what David put > up as his straw man.   It was not a straw man, Kevin.  It is part of a misunderstanding between us.  You have some inconsistency concerning dictionary use, which hopefully will become more apparent later.   Peace be with you.David Miller.

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
OK name names Who believes only the original OLDE 1611 is the Word of God?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/16/2005 6:23:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An Astute Student would have not gone off on a tangent about the OLDE KJV. NO ONE believes what David put up as

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-16 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/16/2005 6:23:38 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: An Astute Student would have not gone off on a tangent about the OLDE KJV. NO ONE believes what David put up as his straw man. Does anyone know someone who believes such? Of course there are.   But you would

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
An Astute Student would have not gone off on a tangent about the OLDE KJV. NO ONE believes what David put up as his straw man. Does anyone know someone who believes such?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems as though, of late, every time I compliment or agree with someone on the right, I get nailed fo

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Deegan
David Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin wrote:> Pure word of God is what I hold> in my hands. AV1611Are you saying that you only accept the Authorized Version of 1611 as the Pure word of God? Why then do you not quote from it? http://av1611.com/kjbp/faq/revisions.html KD says Whats the diffe

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-16 Thread Knpraise
It seems as though, of late, every time I compliment or agree with someone on the right, I get nailed for something I have written.   But, what the hey  --   I am going to take a chance and record a commendation.   The point below of David's is actually very good point/question.   And while I

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-16 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > Pure word of God is what I hold > in my hands. AV1611 Are you saying that you only accept the Authorized Version of 1611 as the Pure word of God? Why then do you not quote from it? Kevin wrote: > I fervently resist because I was enlightened to > the fact that I have the very word

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
I have a Perfect Savoir who has put His Pure Words in a Perfect bookTerry Clifton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kevin Deegan wrote:>Pure word of God is what I hold in my hands. AV1611> >I did not intend to change heresy to heresies just a typo as you know i make a lot o them!> >I fervently resist beca

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-15 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin Deegan wrote: Pure word of God is what I hold in my hands. AV1611 I did not intend to change heresy to heresies just a typo as you know i make a lot o them! I fervently resist because I was enlightened to the fact that I have the very words of God in my hand. Those that want to deny such ha

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
Pure word of God is what I hold in my hands. AV1611   I did not intend  to change heresy to heresies just a typo as you know i make a lot o them!   I fervently resist because I was enlightened to the fact that I have the very words of God in my hand. Those that want to deny such have an agenda. If

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-15 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > Aw c'mon try eisegesis NOT "eisogesis" > It is Anglicized as Isogesis or for the greekettes > eisegesis Please use the correct spelling if you > are going to try to correct someones spelling > Etymology: Greek eis into (akin to Greek en in) LOL. Well, Kevin, I knew you didn't like

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Deegan
David says Aw, come on, Kevin, you can't even spell it right. Try "eisogesis" not "ISOgesis."   KD SAYS Aw c'mon try eisegesis NOT "eisogesis" It is Anglicized as Isogesis or for the greekettes eisegesis Please use the correct spelling if you are going to try to correct someones spellingEtymology:

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-15 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > On what Authority do you CHANGE > the Words of God? I do not change the words of God. God's word was not written in English. Furthermore, the English language has changed since the KJV. Therefore, I explain what God's Word is concerning His use of the word "hairesis." Kevin wro

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-15 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/14/2005 3:10:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John wrote: >I have some experience with gay types >as well  --  almost none of them were >criminals Gay types?  If you mean that they were homosexuals, then they were criminals according to the law of God.

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/14/2005 6:04:08 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The point is that God is not in favor of having the "Thought police" who would discipline those who have wrong thinking.  He is in favor of having BEHAVIOR POLICE who discipline those who have wrong behavior. 

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
who think rightly don't have that much more of his attention.  On the other hand, those who are perfect in love are highly esteemed by God.   Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread ttxpress
neither one's perfect, then; readers can raise their learning curve from both gentlemen, eh?   Gentleman   On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:20:40 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:>[Servetus] thought Calvin should be put to death.

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread David Miller
highly esteemed by God.   Peace be with you.David Miller. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior False ideas precede false actions heresy is s

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread Kevin Deegan
False ideas precede false actions heresy is sin and as such sends people to hell Gal 5 says HERESIES along with witchcraft,  idolatry, fornication Adultery are WORKS of the  flesh 2 Pt 2:21  But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who pr

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread David Miller
John wrote: > I have some experience with gay types > as well -- almost none of them were > criminals Gay types? If you mean that they were homosexuals, then they were criminals according to the law of God. Homosexuality is a crime according to God's law. In fact, homosexuality is a crime t

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > First of all heresy and false doctrine > are sin also > Titus [sic] 1:10 For whoremongers, for them > that defile themselves with mankind, for > menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, > and if there be any other thing that is contrary > to sound doctrine Sound doctrine is tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-14 Thread David Miller
Gary wrote: > didn't Servetus hold his contrarian views > without an anti-Calvinist bias? No. Servetus considered Calvin to be the Simon Magus of Geneva, and he thought Calvin should be put to death. That is as anti-Calvin as one can be. Gary wrote: > why was he, or, perhaps, on the basis of

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Deegan
OH NO your self image cropped up again   Attempted manipulation of feelings can not pass for an answer. Stop yer yellin & screamin   The Prerequisite for christian UNITY is Membership 2 CO 13:5 Examine yourselves, whether ye be IN the faith; prove your own selves. Know ye not your own selves, ho

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
Complain to Mr. Webster.   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 6:09 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior   ftr, anothr near perfect example of anti

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/12/2005 5:28:51 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: They deceive themselves and they will deceive you. Terry  --   I have some experience with gay types as well  --  almost none of them were criminals, however.   But about the above     ain't going to happ

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/12/2005 7:33:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: First off I am not a Church of Christ Cultist Actually, I see very little difference between your cultish behavior and that of the C of C  --  southern division.   Unity is not arrived at by Cult or Evangel

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
Those within treat like they are without Those without don't let in your house neither bid them god bless God obviously puts a wall of separation between believers and unbelievers   First of all heresy and false doctrine are sin also Titus 1:10 For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
First off I am not a Church of Christ Cultist   Unity is not arrived at by Cult or Evangelical consensus!   As far as a list like I said very simple learned it in Sunday school ( I can have my Sunday chool teacher come over to help you.) The B I B L E now thats the list for me, I stand alone on the

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Kevin Deegan
In the TRADITION of the Nazi UUberman who called Genocide the "Final Solution" We now call Sodomites "gay" We've come a long way baby. Are you for softening the words for Fornication, murder, theft also? One commandants wife liked to have men who had tattoo's;  skined alive so she coukld have the s

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread ttxpress
ftr, anothr near perfect example of anti-intellectualism in a 'knowing w/o learning' style of intepretation:   On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 16:08:48 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: sod·om·ite    (sd-mt)n. One who eng

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread ShieldsFamily
anal copulation with another male)     From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 2:29 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior   This is why I like Gary.   He and at least three othe

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/12/2005 4:37:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John writes: Anyone who believes that Unity in the Faith is non-existent apart from "speaking and thinking the same thing"  (as extended to a specific set of teachings) is a legalist.  JD   jt: Depends what

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/12/2005 4:37:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John writes: Anyone who believes that Unity in the Faith is non-existent apart from "speaking and thinking the same thing"  (as extended to a specific set of teachings) is a legalist.  JD   jt: Depends what

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread ttxpress
g..ites whatever ain't conducive to stereotypicalization while 'sodomites' has the certain homiletical ring down the streets and alleys of SLC..the Wyatt Earp effect--ever been to Tombstone? was it WE or Doc that carried the sawed off shotgun?     On Sat, 12 Feb 2005 07:35:07 -0600 Terry C

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks for the backstory, Terry. - Original Message - From: Terry Clifton To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: February 12, 2005 08:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/11/2005 8:06:00 PM Pacific Standard

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that the term 'sodomites', below, includes purveyors of perversions such as gossip and gluttony reinforces a biblical learning curve, Terry 'sodomite' actually reads as a reference to those who dwelt in Sodom, where, acc to Scripture, there were numerous/various injustices

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Terry Clifton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/11/2005 8:06:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about perverts? That should cover the whole filty disgusting bunch. Terry Depends on whether you are trying to help them or not. The behavior is ver

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Judy Taylor
  John writes: Anyone who believes that Unity in the Faith is non-existent apart from "speaking and thinking the same thing"  (as extended to a specific set of teachings) is a legalist.  JD   jt: Depends what kind of faith you are unified around - We are free to think and speak whatever we

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-12 Thread Knpraise
This is why I like Gary.   He and at least three others on this list, is smarter than I.  I was thinking that a Sodomite was someone from Sodom but the Professor put it into words better than I could  (man, I like being humble !).  JD   and thanks for the post, G.  In a message dated 2/11/2005

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ttxpress
L PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 6:10 PMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior   ftr, a near perfect example of anti-intellectualism in a 'knowing w/o learning' style of intepretation:   On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ttxpress
that the term 'sodomites', below, includes purveyors of perversions such as gossip and gluttony reinforces a biblical learning curve, Terry   'sodomite' actually reads as a reference to those who dwelt in Sodom, where, acc to Scripture, there were numerous/various injustices   E.g., Sodom's

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
  Anyone who believes that Unity in the Faith is non-existent apart from "speaking and thinking the same thing"  (as extended to a specific set of teachings) is a legalist.  JD   Don’t you mean to say “same thang”? Iz

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
How’s that for a way with words! J Izzy  == How about perverts?  That should cover the whole filty disgusting bunch. Terry  __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
Don’t be so hard on JD—he tries hard. J Iz   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 6:10 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior   ftr, a near perfect example of anti

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/11/2005 8:06:00 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How about perverts?  That should cover the whole filty disgusting bunch. Terry Depends on whether you are trying to help them or not.   The behavior is very disgusting.  By "help them" I am talking about

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/11/2005 6:28:02 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So sodomites it is then! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not in

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/11/2005 6:06:11 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is readily available [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you miss it? What is so important about this list? Are you a L

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/11/2005 3:56:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OhâI thought maybe you meant âudder waistâ.  Iz My humor often rises to the level of a thoughtful listener.   The fact that you see "udder" in "utter"  proves, to me, that you are one of the thoughtful.  

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Terry Clifton
Kevin Deegan wrote: So sodomites it is then! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not intolerance. He criticizes those who holler real loud that everyone

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
So sodomites it is then![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not intolerance. He criticizes those who holler real loud that everyone needs to be tolerant, but then

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Kevin Deegan
It is readily available[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you miss it?What is so important about this list? Are you a LEGALIST need a bunch of rules?You act like your ready to gloat cause you think there is no such t

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ttxpress
ftr, a near perfect example of anti-intellectualism in a 'knowing w/o learning' style of intepretation:   On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:55:42 -0600 "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:  Oh—I thought maybe you meant “udder waist”.  Iz

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 4:17 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior   In a message dated 2/11/2005 2:12:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/11/2005 2:12:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Your inability to supply such a list has proven your theology on this point to be an utter waist. John waist   ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (wst) n. The part of the human trunk between the bottom of the

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread ShieldsFamily
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:47 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior   In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:41 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It seems to me that you guys are talking about two different things.  John, aren't you creating a straw man argument here, trying to make Kevin argue that unity is based upon full agreement with Biblical do

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You fail to comprehend that Kevin is criticizing HYPOCRISY not intolerance. He criticizes those who holler real loud that everyone needs to be tolerant, but then they manifest the most intolerant behavior t

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/10/2005 6:26:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did you miss it? What is so important about this list? Are you a LEGALIST need a bunch of rules? You act like your ready to gloat cause you think there is no such thing. Yet it exists, is right in front of

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-11 Thread Knpraise
Well,  I am definitely going to save this.  Your comments at the conclusion or worth concern.  Amen to the post.  JD In a message dated 2/10/2005 7:10:58 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:36:14 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 2/10/

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread ttxpress
didn't Servetus hold his contrarian views without an anti-Calvinist bias?   why was he, or, perhaps, on the basis of what 'world view' did he become a citizen of Geneva?   On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 19:14:38 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: while someone says he's 'anti-Calvinist', partic fo

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread ttxpress
while someone says he's 'anti-Calvinist', partic for reasons behind the argument fragment below, what are the implications for his 'world view'?   how does 'anti-Calvinism' impact biblical unity and/or tolerance?   On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 15:35:27 -0500 "David Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> write

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: >> So you would tolerate someone disgracing >> your wifes name &reputation? John wrote: > you are not going to leap frog your failure at a > practical application of your position that unity > is based upon full agreement with biblical doctrine. > THAT is what we have been talking ab

RE: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread ShieldsFamily
LOL! Do I hear a “moo”?   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:48 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior   Did you miss it? What is so important about this

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > Are you familiar with the Doctrine of separation? Yes, but it probably is not the same as the doctrine of separation that you embrace. Kevin wrote: > Surely you must be David. I find that there is > a clear COMMAND for Christians to avoid > those that are in sin but also those tha

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread David Miller
Kevin wrote: > Are you saying we are to be tolerant of false Doctrine? Yes, there is a form of tolerance toward false doctrine that should be practiced. This is because none of us is perfect in knowledge. This does not mean that when we encounter something false that we should just let it go

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread David Miller
John wrote: > Kevin is intolerant of all and everyone who > disagree's with him, including you, David Miller. > And that is why I find it funny that he was criticize > others for that very issue -- something you admit > is clearly a part of who he is. You fail to comprehend that Kevin is critic

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Did you miss it? What is so important about this list? Are you a LEGALIST need a bunch of rules? You act like your ready to gloat cause you think there is no such thing. Yet it exists, is right in front of your face but you can't see it. You won't follow the rules anyway why have a cow? [EMAIL PROT

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:36:14 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 2/10/2005 5:30:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are talking about Your Toleration not the criminal act So you would tolerate  someone disgracing your wifes name &reputation?JD: Like I sa

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/10/2005 5:30:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Wev are talking about Your Toleeration not the criminal act So you would tolerate  someone disgracing your wifes name &reputation? Like I said before  --  you are not going to leap frog your failure at a

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Wev are talking about Your Toleeration not the criminal act So you would tolerate  someone disgracing your wifes name & reputation?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/10/2005 4:30:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are discussing ToleranceWould you tolerate either s

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/10/2005 4:30:05 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We are discussing Tolerance Would you tolerate either scenario? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:36:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would a christian Gentle"m

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/10/2005 3:48:45 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And what was that list of doctrines you are in full agreement with in others?   On a practical level, your thesis has been proven to be untenable   --   proving that everyone is someone elses false prophet  an

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 11:42:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kevin: Reconciled, Just like the Moabites, Jebusites, Hittites, Amorites &others before them! Got any for neighbors? God Reconciled them right off the map. John: Yeah, and those dirty old Ninevites -- they re

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
We are discussing Tolerance Would you tolerate either scenario?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:36:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would a christian Gentle"man" like you stand by as another man claimed that your wife had multiple husbands? Would you allo

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
Before I can agree to what is cleared up DUH[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/9/2005 8:09:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: am sure that is not how you meant it so please be a little clearer. I may be able to accomodate you, but I will have to wait for clarification

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
And with John just grace no discernment or judgement[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:25:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JOHN If and when the Mormons let down their guard, so to speak  --   the moment they become open to meaningful dialogue,  that is the

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
My eyes are "close" to what?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:30:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry Bill I see now that John wrote the portion I was responding to.Apparently your eyes completely close when you write or speak.   Got to work on that.  So

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
You ENJOY strife & Vitriol[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Be honest , now. Did anyone else smile when> they read this statement from the master of> bullhorn evangelism?    (This is cool  --  I don't even have to come up with a new     theme.   It's ditto all over again.  I would not mind h

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-10 Thread Kevin Deegan
So we can never know what is right or wrong? How did david figure it out? Thy word is a lamp?   The disunity is exactly because people do not go to The Standard. For instance your Standard is the Greek Anothers std is their inner witness Anothers is their Teacher or preacher Anothers is their churc

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Judy Taylor
    On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 01:36:04 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:25:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JOHN:  If and when the Mormons let down their guard, so to speak  --   the moment they become open to meaningful dialogue,  that is

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Judy Taylor
  On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 00:45:55 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message dated 2/9/2005 12:25:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Are you saying we are to be tolerant of false Doctrine?Why did David say he hates every False Way?Should we love wolves come into the C

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 8:09:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: am sure that is not how you meant it so please be a little clearer. I may be able to accomodate you, but I will have to wait for clarification. Or what? JD

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:48:24 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but Jesus mentioned only his Mom while dying..interesting no mention of any other person to be cared for..   On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:35:11 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mormons claim Ch

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:43:29 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Something tells me if you were in Moses place, you would have stormed into Pharios court and Boldy said "Let my people please have a variance"!    :-)

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:40:14 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mick Jagger wrote Sympathy for the Devil Where do you guys draw the line or do you? Moses drew a line in the sand and said Sumpin good 's gonna happen ta you Was that before or after he took credit for the

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:36:16 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would a christian Gentle"man" like you stand by as another man claimed that your wife had multiple husbands? Would you allow him to defame her name fconstantly? Would you dialog? Mormons claim Christ had mult

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:30:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry Bill I see now that John wrote the portion I was responding to. Apparently your eyes completely close when you write or speak.   Got to work on that.  Sooner or later, you could walk off the deep end.

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 7:25:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: JOHN If and when the Mormons let down their guard, so to speak  --   the moment they become open to meaningful dialogue,  that is the time when God will work His will on all parties involved in the dialogue.  

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
MAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior In a message dated 2/9/2005 4:52:34 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Unity with error is subversion to God Community with error is Complicity wi

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
Be honest , now. Did anyone else smile when > they read this statement from the master of > bullhorn evangelism?    (This is cool  --  I don't even have to come up with a new     theme.   It's ditto all over again.  I would not mind having a civil

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 12:33:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry, but I didn't smile.  Kevin is right.  Kevin is very consistent in that he teaches we should be intolerant.  That is why he gives the Mormons a hard time.  Yet, Kevin is not as intolerant as the sodomi

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Knpraise
In a message dated 2/9/2005 12:25:51 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Are you saying we are to be tolerant of false Doctrine? Why did David say he hates every False Way? Should we love wolves come into the Church to devour? And what was that list of doctrines you are in f

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread ttxpress
after chopping somebodies' ears off it seems like they wouldn't be able to hear correctly   someone said you are skilled in tolerance..what's your thresh hold for pain?   On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:26:29 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: || How much has to be said about

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
Christians today allow all kinds of profane things to be said of God. As a man I would not let someone talk about my wife in certain ways. The legal system has a term for such, it is called "Fighting Words" How much has to be said about your Savior before you open your mouth? Is there not a cause?

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread ttxpress
Kevin, Prudence is a good friend of TT. Will you rent her a room for week or two, please?   Thanks!   G   --   cc. David Miller     On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:08:11 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: More to the point, Kevin, I think it prudent that you drop this right now

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
My error, Thank you.Bill Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your apology is accepted.   Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior Sorry Bill I see now that John

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Kevin Deegan
ill    More to the point, Kevin, I think it prudent that you drop this right now. Will you please accommodate me? - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior SEE Bottom o

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread ttxpress
then mick could have been JCs book keeper   On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:39:04 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mick Jagger wrote Sympathy for the Devil Where do you guys draw the line or do you? ||

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread ttxpress
but Jesus mentioned only his Mom while dying..interesting no mention of any other person to be cared for..   On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 19:35:11 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Mormons claim Christ had multiple wives ..

Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior

2005-02-09 Thread Bill Taylor
Your apology is accepted.   Bill - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:28 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Cult behavior Sorry Bill I see now that John wrote the portion I was responding

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