Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
interesting --perhapswhile yer curled upfondlingmyow myow,try to juxtapose your inadvertant underlying insightto the real point: "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the other)

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
.. it ain't that prettyat all On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: 'either get our new WalMarts opened on time in Baghdad or face us blowin' you to (the other) hell (we're

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ..perhapswhile yer curled upfondlingmyow myow.. ..re-consideryour role in repentance,even somerock starsaren't adverse to it, e.g., "_sitting_ under my blue sky of deceptionthe colors run every time

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:41:19 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: .. it ain't that prettyat all On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:17:57 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: || "but Am. conservative Muslim theory ain't really their fault: ..

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-27 Thread ttxpress
ftr, particDaveH--* = an influentialphrase (to me)fromthe title of a Warren Zevon song,the best rendition of it iv'e heardby the Pixies with Zevon's son Jordanafter Warren's relatively recent death--on the Zevon post-mortemCD 'Enjoy Every Sandwich' (indeed:) On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:55:51

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread ShieldsFamily
Pretty close! J From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Deegan Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 10:15 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Izzy PS She was driving a nicer car than I have

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
o:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread knpraise
6 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So IYO it is better to have

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -- From: "

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-26 Thread Kevin Deegan
PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [E

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Dodging the question, as usual. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:54 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It ain't true. It's a hyperbolic

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
IZ:No, I would not. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 06:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Dodging the question, as usual. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:28 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism IZ:No, I would not. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 06:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism IZ:No, I would not.- Original Message - From: "ShieldsFamily" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: March 25, 2006 06:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationi

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Muir Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:28 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism IZ:No, I would not. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <TRUTHTALK@MAIL.INNGLORY.ORG> Sent: March 25

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
In a public school. Think 'long term', Iz. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 06:37 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So, here we are, back to the fact that IF you believed something

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:46 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It's not what is taught (for me and in this case) so much as it is WHO TEACHES THEM. You want the sec

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
on Creationism In a public school. Think 'long term', Iz. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 06:37 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So, here we are, back to the fact that IF you believed

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Scary to the max. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
- From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So, in a public school you prefer that untruth be taught long-term. Hmm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So, in a public school you prefer that untruth be taught long-term. Hmm -Original Message- From

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So IYO it is better to have “sec

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
I'd never suggest that you 'live in fear' nor do I believe that you would. Just BE REAL, (wo)man! - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:25 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism I refuse

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
t;ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scary to the max. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Cre

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
How long Oh David, how long? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What's scary is that you think the solution

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Solution: teach false theories. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
And forbid other theories that are politically incorrect. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ShieldsFamily Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:36 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Solution: teach

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
06 6:23 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Sikhs are permitted to wear 'sacred' daggers to school. The RCMP allow turbans over traditional head gear.The Muslim creation story is in the Q'ran (soon to be taught at a school near you). Think long term

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
theories. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What's scary i

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Linda -- politically, I am a rightwinger -- but who went to war for what reason? And, did you miss Lnace's good point? What kind of fit will you pitch when the Muslim population wins a court fight to teach

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
lto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. ---

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:32 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What's scary is that you think the solution is to have an antagonistic educator "teach" what he does not believe -- you thinking, of course

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What's scary is that you think the solution is to have an antagonistic educator "

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Lance Muir
You, Judy, could teach researching. However, you could not teach 'conclusions'! - Original Message - From: Judy Taylor To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 25, 2006 07:58 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If there are christian

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
e theories. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on C

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
CTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:46 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It's not what is taught (for me and in this case) so much as it is WHO TEACHES TH

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Jesus used the word often. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:05 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism The 'if road' can be walked on only

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Here's an idea -- maybe the church could actually do its job !! You know, instead of paying the local school district to do it. jd -- Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. ---

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:08 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Here's an idea -- maybe the church could actually do its job !

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It ain't true. It's a hyperbolic hypothetical, Iz. . - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 17:16 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
on Creationism Dodging the question, as usual. iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:54 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It ain't true

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
aren't following your logic? iz -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:28 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism IZ:No, I would

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
25, 2006 07:15 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So, in a public school you prefer that untruth be taught long-term. Hmm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Saturday, March

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Muir Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:23 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Sikhs are permitted to wear 'sacred' daggers to school. The RCMP allow turbans over traditional head gear.The Muslim creation story is in the Q'ran (soon

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress
myth[the writer'sa blamer with an evidentfeminist' bias,butAm. conservativeMuslim theoryain't really their fault: 'eitherget our new WalMarts opened on timein Baghdad orface usblowin'youto (the other) hell (we're financing')] || We wouldn’t be HAVING a problem with

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
each false theories. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:33 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What's scary is that you think th

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismIf there are christian teachers in the system (and there are) who must teach theories of evolution that they do not believe. What's wrong with teaching the other side also even if there are unbelievers teaching it There are also unbelievers

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ttxpress
..knewGod'sgrace We wouldn’t be HAVING a problem with Muslims if we..

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So IYO it is better to have “secul

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
Scary to the max. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not reall

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -- From: "Shiel

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
really meaningless. From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Scary to the max. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [Trut

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
on it. Izzy PS She was driving a nicer car than I have; but then so does everyone. -) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:07 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:07 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism myth[the writer'sa blamer with an evidentfeminist' bias,butAm. conservativeMuslim theoryain't really their fault: 'eitherget our new WalMarts

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
e…. izzyFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:46 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It's not what is taught (for me and in

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread knpraise
AIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 5:46 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism It's not what is taught (for me and in this case) so much as

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
Those who really know it are thankful enough to SERVE Him joyfully. iz From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:37 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread ShieldsFamily
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism 0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an idea -- maybe the church could actually do its job !! You know, instead of paying the local school district to do it. jd -- Original message

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 6:14 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. ---

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin DeeganSent: Saturday, March 25, 2006 11:06 AMTo: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism0[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's an idea -- maybe the church could actually do its job !! You know

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSubject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Of course. But that is not really the issue. -- Original message -- From: "ShieldsFamily" [EMAIL PROTECTED] So IYO it is better to have

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
23, 2006 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism David:Is that all you were meaning to say concerning RW? If that's it then, I'm with RW on this one. I don't think it should be taught in schools either. - Original Message - From: David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Either that or, you are a TOTALLY IGNORANT BAPTIST. I've made MY choice, Kevin. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Is KD a pseudonym

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Whatever 'YOUR JOB' is Kevin, y'all ain't bin doin' it all that well AT TT! - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 18:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism WE DON'T NEED

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Both your presuppositions and your deductions are available to be seen. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 19:07 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism So I prefer the concept

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Gettin' better and better! Why did you save the best for last? - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:41 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Linda, I

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
I'm humbled at your objectivity, Kevin. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:36 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Christian roots of our public education system

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
The archbishop + nothing = first rate teaching. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 00:01 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What do I believe about

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Still no. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If you thought it was true would you want it taught in schools, Lance? JD? izzy -Original

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
You may feel to teach them that the universe is geocentric if you like. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:23 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism I’m so thankful that my 4

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
A book truly perceptive re: human nature. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:12 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Why is this so hauntingly reminiscent of communication

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:36 PM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism David !! Honestly, this is one of the sorriest posts you have ever written

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismIs KD a pseudonym for Gary North? "if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." PopeGary N

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
18:39 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismWE DON'T NEED TO BE IN THE SCHOOL SYSTEM IF WE ARE DOING OUR JOB Our Job is NOT the school system or Politics, render unto CesearUnless of course you are swayed by the Reconstructionists.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:What

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Oh but I do, Kevin. However, I'm not inclined toward 'darkening the corner where you are'. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 06:29 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If you do

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks in part to you, I've got some of the facts before me. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 06:27 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Facts stand the test better than Feelings

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
:29 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If you do not KNOW what it is how can you make a value judgement on it?Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whatever 'YOUR JOB' is Kevin, y'all ain't bin doin' it all that well AT TT!- Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Oh ya? (see how content-filled that is?) - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 07:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism But you are inclined to making baseless assertions.Lance Muir

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 07:06 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism But you are inclined to making baseless assertions.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh but I do, Kevin. However, I'm not inclined toward 'darkening the corner where you

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Less is more. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 07:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism When was the last time on TT you posted more than two sentences? When was at least one

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
- Original Message - From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:58 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Just how wide do you wish the door open, scientifically speaking? This issue is akin to the 'prayer in school

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If I were teaching high school biology right now, I would spend one day out of the whole year to discuss the creation / evolution controversy. I would consider some of the stronger arguments for creation. Furthermore, I would teach them

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
being dealt with in the same way? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:30 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism You may feel to teach them that the universe

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
this prediction? David Miller - Original Message - From: Lance Muir To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:44 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Interpretation/interpolation/speculation re:Genesis leads one

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
ce Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm humbled at your objectivity, Kevin. - Original Message - From: Kevin Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:36 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Christian roots of our public education system No but I

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
? - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 08:36 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Correct, and some of this activity proposes empirical predictions that are testable by empirical means

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
No, it is not 'strange'. In most cases 'creation science' reflects neither. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 08:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism She should not teach them

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
rom: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 08:33 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism She should not teach them that the universe IS geocentric, but she should teach them the geocentric model, evidence for and against it,and its place in thehistory

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise
Dog-gone it all. Why do you say such things??!! Past collegues? You mean those guys you knew 18 years ago before you became a software programer?? Your teachers back in the college days of your youth? jd By the way, every past colleague of mine that I have argued this point, about creationist

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller
@mail.innglory.org Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:12 AM Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Public education was first offered as an alternaive to Christian education. jd -- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Thanks for the footnote confirming John's point. - Original Message - From: David Miller To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 10:55 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism The history of public education is a little more

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
You didnt answer the question. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 10:41 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Linda

Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir
Speaking for myself, I do not think creation(ism) should be taught in schools. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 24, 2006 16:14 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism You didn’t answer

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:01 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism What do I believe about Genesis? Did you read any of my

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:04 PM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism Are you the teacher? -- Original message -- From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
: Williams on Creationism Still no. - Original Message - From: ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Sent: March 23, 2006 23:04 Subject: RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism If you thought it was true would you want it taught in schools, Lance? JD? izzy

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
Fortunately we comprehend the truth since we believe Gods Word. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:30 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism You may

RE: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

2006-03-24 Thread ShieldsFamily
And demonic beings encouraging one another in their strategies. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lance Muir Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:27 AM To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism A book

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