JD your dylexia has kicked in again. We who are
born through procreation are created in the "image" of the
first Adam. They were here first already and
the tree of life is what they were encouraged toeat from. to
say they were walking in death right then is pure
unwarranted speculation;
On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:45:44 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
being over protective through fear is one
thingDAVEH: That seems to be a tactic of some
Christians. For instance, the whole commonly believed scenario about
hell being a literal punitive torturous form of
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DAVEH: It is not that I disagree with what you said below,
Judy.But, I think you've gone off topic. We are discussing AE's
transgression, not our own. As soon as they were cast out of the Garden
for their
I think probably, John, that all humanity had to
have come through Adam and Eve. This does not mean that Cain and then Abel had
tohave beentheir first children (I guess), but in order for Christ
to be the go'el or Kinsmen Redeemer of
mankind,there has to have been a common ancestry, i.e., a
Agreed.
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Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like
us -- which
What is the evidence?
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Agreed.
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Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like
us -- which includes the fact that they were created
"mortal,"
Me thinks you are putting words in his mouth, Judy.
Had they have continued to eat of the tree of life, they would not
havedied, their mortality being the potential to die in the absence of the
sustenance supplied by the tree of life: "'And now, lest he put out his hand and
take also of the
So they were created one of two ways. They were
either eternal with the ability to fall through disobedience -
OR they were created like us which is mortal
and dying as we live with access to the tree of
life?
Why would a God of life in whom there is no darkness or
shadow of turning
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:01:44 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Judy Taylor
So they were created one of two ways. They
were either eternal with the ability to fall through disobedience -
OR they were created like us which is mortal
and dying as
Hmmm, bad water gets blamed for a lot. My neighbor's dog drank some
ethylene glycol anti-freeze off my garage floor and died within 36 hours.
Went into a coma. Tch tch. That will teach him to use my lawn for a
pooping ground, huh?
Blainerb
In a message dated 12/8/2005 8:30:53 P.M.
I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines like
Cain. Cain married his sister, according to one account. He was
jealous of Able because the coveted sister liked Able better than Cain--until
Able was"removed,"at least.
In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:28:04
temple stone! Du 17 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded Du 18 There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth
In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:34:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like
us -- which includes the fact that they were created
"mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the garden.
jd
They
They had another brother called Ready[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines like Cain. Cain married his sister, according to one account. He was jealous of Able because the coveted sister liked Able better than Cain--until Able
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On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:01:44 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL
Are you willing to BET your Life on this? They did not seem to be aware of their nakedness until they ate the apple. Then they made fig leaf aprons to cover their nakedness. Sounds like they were changed in some mysterious way by eating the apple. I can see it all now--Adam looks at Eve, and
This IS the sort of thing I was looking for. YES
I'd like for you to post the 'newer' material.
thanks,
Lance
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Blainerb:
Thanks for taking the time to read/respond to these. I'll read and respond
to you as time permits.
Lance
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Blaine do you read the Bible?
It was not a coveted sister Cain was jealous of - why
not go back and refresh .[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines
like Cain. Cain married his sister, according to one
The UNIT of Salvation:
Individual? Family? Family +
Ancestors?
The LENS through which we SEE Scripture: What's the
BIBLICAL NORM through which all the rest of the Bible is READ? (Normed
Hermeneutic)
ESCHATOLOGICAL:Daniel, Mt 24,
Revelation
Mt 1-GENEALOGY:
New groups around the globe
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:57:00 -0700 "Taylor" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
From: Judy Taylor
So they
were created one of two ways. They were either eternal with the
ability to fall through disobedience - OR they were
created like us which is
Yeah! Innocence turned to lust and caring
and love turned into pride, selfishness, and shame.
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:52:03 EST [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
In a message dated 12/8/2005 10:34:55 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
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Also, there is evidence that
God's meaning through God's Words is SUPPOSED TO BE
WHAT TT IS ABOUT, IS IT NOT? There's a whole lot of rather cocky assumin' goin'
on here!
Please allow the Spirit of Christ that indwells you
to break through those errant understandings so as to draw us closer to John 17.
I understand
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Also, there is evidence that Adam and Eve were created just like us -- which includes the fact that
they were created
"mortal," hence, the The Tree of Life , in the
garden. jd
Above is the strawman that needs
Kevin Deegan wrote:
temple stone!
I had kinda pictured God in my mind as having a
little different hair do. Are you certain this is Him?
Terry
I thought the same thing - this looks like what we used
to call in Australia a golliwog. jt
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writes:
Kevin Deegan wrote:
temple stone!I had kinda pictured God in my mind as having a little different
hair do.
So, Adam and Eve were having children while ithe garden .A possiblility.
jd-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:41:09 ESTSubject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE
I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make
When a woman wears leather clothing, . A man's
heart beats quicker, his throat gets dry, he goes weak in the knees,
and he begins to think irrationally. Ever wonder why? Because she
smells like a new truck.
But why would we assume tht the "cahnge" was anything other than a conscieousness of good and evil in association with the violation of law? Why does this "change" include their mortality? I see no reason for this.
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Bill speaks of 'AW'?? Hm...Freudian slip?
Bill's favourite FF place? A hidden agenda?
Good root beer? (as close as Bill gets to 'beer'?)
We had all best ponder this encrypted message from our vaunted
theologian!
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I love it. Judy interprets John !!! If this is an example of your "spirit discernment," you have a long long way to go.
In the account of A E, they are mortal beings just like you and I with two exceptions in terms of circumstance: they had the Tree of Life and continued access to that tree
Why? The apostle Paul is good enough for me - He
used "great plainness of speech"
with no hidden agendas. Nothing was done in a
corner.
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Bill speaks of 'AW'?? Hm...Freudian
slip? Bill's favourite FF place? A
So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of Life?Adam and Eve were not given any restrictions concerningeating from this tree. What do you suppose would be the result of eating from such fruit? I say "continued life."
jd -Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL
-Original Message-From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:26:28 -0500Subject: [TruthTalk] DID GOD SAY? (anything of value through JRRTolkien CSLewis?) HE DOES!!
God's meaning through God's Words is SUPPOSED TO BE WHAT TT IS ABOUT, IS
God's wisdom is a tree of life JD
AE rejected it in favor of the tree of
death
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So, you decided to ignore my comment about the Tree of
Life?Adam and Eve were not given any restrictions
concerningeating from this tree.
Think "Tree of Life" for starters.-Original Message-From: Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgCc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.orgSent: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 06:23:29 -0500Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] New Subject-AE
What is the evidence?
On Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:20:21 -0700
JUDY:Did you see that this was an attempt at
humour? Please say that you did. You do laugh do you not?
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I love it. Judy interprets John !!! If this is an
example of your "spirit discernment," you have a long long way to
go.
Correction! Judy has no interest in
interpreting John. Judy reads and understands
I have to get to the shop. But , quickly, ( you are probably already on the road to work, as well) , it seems to me that man(kind) is first created and then, Adam (as it turns out) is placed into the garden (2:7,8). I would tie 1:26-28 to verse 7 and treat Adam and Eve as a second story. Eve was
My 2c worth:
I have always though of Adam and Eve as created mortal, and that that
perhaps the eventual plan (before the fall) was for them to partake of the
Tree of Life and become immortal.
What would have happened if they had partaken of the Tree of Life after
sinning and while in
Huh ??? If you are saying that Adam and Eve made a choice betweenknowledge and life -- well, I would agree. But, if they were immortal, that was not a choice they had to make -- they didn't need the Tree of Life. Or, are you saying that the Tree of Life is allegory?
jd-Original
http://www.theage.com.au/news/film/nearer-my-narnia-to-thee/2005/12/08/1133829717953.html Nearer my Narnia to thee Disney is deliberately promoting this film to the religious - it has appointed Outreach, an evangelical publisher, to promote the Christian message behind the movie in British
those who are turned off by such rhetoric.They are already "TURNED OFF" What will happen to them are you afraid we will "TURN THEM" into HELL NUMBER TWO?Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 21:45:44 -0800 Dave Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:being over
My but I'd love to hear from folks on
this!!
I believe that we NOW are born with a will that is
FREE to do but one thing and, that would be, IMO, flee from God and behave
consistently with our fallen nature.
Looks like the LDS have actually suceeded in ressurecting the old Canaanite BAAL Worship! Notice Antons Satanic STAR on the temple below!Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: temple stone! Du 17 And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or
CSL provides for the believing community (at least that are not luddites) to engage the culture with the gospel.Funny how some need a special invite and someone else to do the talking for them. I some perverted way they think they are going out in the deep taking a chance being Evangels by
Here is the REAL intent of the LDS question on questionable surmisings about which the Bible is silent! They sit back ENJOY the FIREWORKS![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I love it. Judy interprets John !!! If this is an example of your "spirit discernment," you have a long long way to go.
Joe Smith said HIS NOSE was a little wider!Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought the same thing - this looks like what we used to call in Australia a golliwog. jtOn Fri, 09 Dec 2005 07:53:46 -0600 Terry Clifton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:Kevin Deegan wrote: temple stone!I
New groups around the globe adopt new normsNew GospelLance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The UNIT of Salvation:Individual? Family? Family + Ancestors?The LENS through which we SEE Scripture: What's the BIBLICAL NORM through which all the rest of the Bible is READ? (Normed
Must be it ALL revolves around SEX Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Blaine do you read the Bible? It was not a coveted sister Cain was jealous of - why not go back and refresh .[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think Eve had a passal of children, they just didn't make headlines
This was written by a Hospice of Metro Denver physician .
I just had one of the most amazing experiences of my life, and wanted to
share
it with my family and dearest friends:
I was driving home from a meeting this evening about 5, stuck in traffic
on
Colorado Blvd., and the car started
Thats only half the story, Lance.
The other half is that we are free to worship and serve the LordAFTER we
are filled with the Holy Spirit, that is. The Holy Spirit gives us the same
freedom that AE had, to obey OR disobey. izzy
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It’s well known that the 5 pointed pentagram
is a satanic star. DaVinci used it in his famous drawing of a man; it
represents for form of man; one point for his head, arms and legs. It is the
antithesis to the 6 pointed Star of David. iz
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Interesting thought, jd. Not likely,
but interesting. Maybe the other people were Neanderthals? iz
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THIS is quite wonderful, Iz!
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This was written by a Hospice of Metro Denver physician .
I just had one of the most
No -- "nave"l in their day referred only to an orange.
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Did they have navels like we have?From: [EMAIL
Questions (and admittedly, I am more of a novice on this point of doctrine than most):
1. At what point in Luke's genealogy does the list cease to be Jewish?
2. If redemption of the world is through the Chosen People of God and Christ, for a number of reasons, was the embodiment of the Chosen
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You speak as if the Holy Sprit indwelling and the "..law written on their hearts" are two different things. What exactly do
On Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:44:07 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
You speak as if the Holy Sprit indwelling and the "..law written on their
hearts" are two different things.
What exactly do you mean when you, Judy Taylor, speak of the law
written on your heart?
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