Glenn - I am not convinced that the Mormon snake Jesus is the same as the Biblical Jesus I worship and adore. I have yet to see an answer to my questions about this Mormon Jesus. I mentioned these things at least twice a long time ago.
1. Jesus was a created being. (This they admitted.
Glenn wrote:
> How do you explain wisdom? I don't see wisdom as
> Mormon knowledge. Mormon knowledge is flat out lies.
Let's be fair, Glenn. You might be over-generalizing a little. Some Mormon
knowledge is true. For example, Mormons say that Jesus is the Christ, the
Savior of the world. T
DAVEH:
> You still fail to understand what I've been trying to
> convey to you. The divisions of the "Mormon realm"
> do not accept each other. Each believes the others
> are in error, as opposed to Protestant factions that
> accept each other.
I don't think you have a proper grasp on the way t
DAVEH:
> The "facts" are that neither you nor DavidM were
> able to exactly quote the words from the BofM
> that both you claimed the BofM used.
I never claimed to quote the exact words when I used the word "Bible." I
paraphrased the passage. The problem is that the Book of Mormon is very
uncle
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>Glenn - The truth is pure. If it is not pure it is not truth. This
>speculation, instead of inspiration, is damning.
>
> > The truth is rarely pure, and never simple.
> > -Oscar Wilde, writer (1854-1900)
> >
Michael D: James 3: 17. But the wisdom that is f
Glenn- This is why I have no respect for Mormonism. If they would just admit what is in their "Mormon revelation" then I could just agree or disagree. BUT BUT BUT they lie about what their "Mormon revelation" says. AND AND AND this lying is by honest people who are brainwashed.
No matter how
A long time ago I explained why this is true.
WHY PEOPLE DO NOT SEE THE BIBLE ALIKE
HINT: IT IS NOT BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE ME ARE GREATLY UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF SATAN BECAUSE I REJECT SO-CALLED MORMON SCRIPTURE.
DAVEH wrote:
> And it does seem that there are a diversity of beliefs
> derived from its
David Miller wrote:
>> I do blame Joseph Smith for saying that these
>> problems are so great that it has led an exceedingly
>> great number of people under the power of Satan.
DAVEH wrote:
> HmmWould you think that there are many
> millions of Catholics who have been influenced by th
Wrong. Mormons are divided over doctrinal issues as DavidM point out.
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No disparity in Mormon divisional practices. huh?
DAVEH: I think you will find all factions of those who believe the BofM share a common understanding of the Lord's desire that infants not be baptiz
EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING HERE CAN BE SAID WITHIN A DENOMINATION OF CHRISTIANITY. THIS IS UTTER FOLLEY.,
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Glenn - I am amazed that you can still make this claim when Mormonism has divided.
DAVEH: You still fail to understand what I've been trying to convey to you. The d
I totally understand what you are trying to convery. It is false with all due respect. You are trying to turn the truth in to a lie. Mormonism is divided. FACTS are FACTS. Mormon relevation has not worked. The FACT that yo don't accept each other is further proof Mormonism is divided. Brainw
This obvious denial of facts (while being an honest person) is more than enough evidence that Mormonism is a cult that brainwashes people.
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Glenn - If you keep on denying the facts
DAVEH: I'm only denying the untruths you want other TTers to believe. The "facts" are th
I cannot accept your firey gut feelings. I go by inspiration not speculation. Argument from silence. Dead argument.
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Dead argument from silence.
DAVEH: Only silence of the Bible. The Lord wasn't silent elsewhere. Furthermore, Christians anciently practiced it and th
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Glenn
- I am amazed that you can still make this claim when Mormonism has divided.
DAVEH: You still fail to understand what I've been trying to convey
to you. The divisions of the "Mormon realm" do not accept each other.
Each believes the others are in error, as oppo
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Glenn
- If you keep on denying the facts
DAVEH: I'm only denying the untruths you want other TTers to believe.
The "facts"
are that neither you nor DavidM were able to exactly quote the words from
the BofM that both you claimed the BofM used.
maybe
you can believe you
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Dead
argument from silence.
DAVEH: Only silence of the Bible. The Lord wasn't silent elsewhere.
Furthermore, Christians anciently practiced it and the Lord did not condemn
their practice of it. Is that not strong evidence that they considered
baptism an essential p
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No
disparity in Mormon divisional practices. huh?
DAVEH: I think you will find all factions of those who believe the
BofM share a common understanding of the Lord's desire that infants not
be baptized. In that respectto the BofMthat is correctI
don't think
The Holy Spirit is God. If God is living within a person, that person is saved. Yes.
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What about the people in the New Testament who received the Holy Spirit without baptism?
DAVEH: Sorry to intrude, Glenn & Blaine. When I read this, Glenn, it occurred to me that you
Glenn - The truth is pure. If it is not pure it is not truth. This speculation, instead of inspiration, is damning.
The truth is rarely pure, and never simple.
-Oscar Wilde, writer (1854-1900)
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What
about the people in the New Testament who received the Holy Spirit without
baptism?
DAVEH: Sorry to intrude, Glenn & Blaine. When I read
this, Glenn, it occurred to me that you equate reception of the HS withsalvation.is
that correct?
Now if we look at it
DAVEH: Something to ponder...
The truth is rarely pure, and never simple.
-Oscar Wilde, writer (1854-1900)
Michael Douglas wrote:
Michael D:
Well, Br. Glenn, to me the best hope is to intercede
for those who are so held in blindness. Jesus said that no one can come
unto Him except the Fat
Mormons are guilty of this too. Even on TT Mormons condemn other Mormon divisions. With what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged. Therefore I judge Mormonism as hypocritical.
DAVEH: Unfortunately, there have been more than a few who settled such matters less than peacefully!
Dead argument from silence.
DAVEH: FTRThe fact that Paul did not condemn the Corinthians for practicing baptism for the dead only lends credence to my belief that baptism is an important aspect of salvation.
What about the people in the New Testament who received the Holy Spirit without baptism?
Now if we look at it from another angle, Glenn believes everything we need to know is included in the Bible (if I remember him correctly), and that the Lord has put everything necessary for salvation in th
Glenn - If you keep on denying the facts maybe you can believe your own spin.
DAVEH: As before, the BofM does not say such. It is you and Glenn who want it to read that way, but as I pointed outthose words are not in the BofM. The message of the BofM is clear..the Bible is the Word o
No disparity in Mormon divisional practices. huh? With what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged.
DAVEH: He did clarify the truth on this matter..in the BofM. However, the Bible lacks that clarity, hence the disparity of practice.
A moron can read that passage and understand it. I have had 2 different people read it (I made no comment.) and they told me what it means. The spin will not work here.
> In summary, I think you gloss over a grave passage in the Book of Mormon
> when you down play what it says about the Bible br
And Joe Smith never perverted any little girls. LOL
And this does not hold truth as evidenced by Mormon division too.
DAVEH: From my perspective, it would seem the gospel has been perverted by Protestantism as evidenced by the diversity of beliefs amongst Bible believers who interpret the Bible
Glenn - I am amazed that you can still make this claim when Mormonism has divided. The diversity of beliefs in the different divisions of Mormonism proves Mormon's revelation did not help but made division worse. Mormons just ignore the facts with a fiery gut sensation. That's attributing the thi
David Miller wrote:
> How could a 5 year old marry Joseph Smith?
> DaveH explained that it was a sealing or celestial
> marriage.
DAVEH wrote:
> And if I remember correctly, I mentioned that it
> happened AFTER JS had died. It was not as some
> TTers have been trying to imply.that he married
I had a pastoral friendtell me many of the demons he had cast out went by religious names, including the name of Jesus. Any firey sensation in my gut must match up with the Bible or it could be demonic.
It seems to me that despite what evidence or knowledge is presented, your
personal experience
This reminds me of a joke a Mormon told me one time. "You're just jealous because all these little people in eternity don't speak to you."
I mean no offense, but this sounds like demonic activity to me. Spiritual,
yes, but not from God. I have seen this attitude in other Mormons too, and
they c
So is Jesus the half brother of Satan?
Blainer) Glenn wrote: > Ok, then the, Mormon Jesus is a snake according
to you. I
> understand.
Glenn - How do you explain wisdom? I don't see wisdom as Mormon knowledge. Mormon knowledge is flat out lies.
"If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, who giveth to
all men liberally, and upbraideth not." JS did follow this admonition,
and received an answer. We may also test this, and
Glenn= While what you are agreeing with DavidM is true, you are using it wrongly. You are using it as an excuse to claim spiritual truths that are not spiritual truths. Since they are stupid the only way to believe them is by claiming they are from God. God is not stupid. This explains why you
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