Gary wrote:
when are you gonna *pull out*?
Pull out? Pull out of what? Judaism? I've never practiced Judaism, so how
can I pull out of it?
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA
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On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 22:18:58 -0500 "David
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writes:Jesus..was talking about the [613] commandments of Moses, which
[Marlin] says are commandments that we do not have to obey as Gentile
believers.
for thoseintoreprovin' poor
ignorantMarlin, deep into legalism,
On Sun, 22 Dec 2002 08:41:17 -0500 "David
Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:[Laura:]Converts of Paul's who
were defecting and Judaistic teachers who were adulterating
Paul's gospel.
[DavidM:]
I do not
agree..that the Judaizers who were adulterating Paul's gospel were
kicked out of the
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:15:52 -0500 "David Miller" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[DavidM:]Paul never instructed the churches to cast out those
Judaizers who taught such.
DavidM, the Ap Paulsimply instructs the
Galatians to withdraw from Judaism--from those who practice it against
On Tue, 24 Dec 2002 14:15:52 -0500 David Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
[DavidM:]
Paul never instructed the churches to cast out those
Judaizers who taught such.
Gary wrote:
DavidM, the Ap Paul simply instructs the Galatians
to withdraw from Judaism--from those who practice
it against
i agree you agree with DavidM
so when are you gonna *pull out*,
Marlin?
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 00:06:15 -0500 "Marlin Halverson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Paul simply
instructs the Galatiansto *withdraw
from Judaism*--from those
who practiceit against Christ
Agreed. --Marlin
Pull out of what?
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i agree you agree
G: so when are you gonna *pull out*,
Marlin?
On Wed, 25 Dec 2002 00:23:43 -0500 "Marlin Halverson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Pull out of what?
g: Paul simply
instructs the Galatiansto *withdraw
from Judaism*--from those
who practiceit against Christ
On Wed, 25 Dec
Pull out of what?
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G: so when are you gonna *pull out*,
Marlin
Glenn wrote:
There is not two ways to live, one for the
Jews and one for the Gentiles.
Are there distinctions between men and women in how they live? Did Paul
teach women to keep silent in the church, or did he teach both men and women
to keep silent? Did Paul teach that both men and women
In a message dated 12/23/2002 9:14:21 AM Central Standard Time, GJ Tabor writes:
Are there distinctions between men and women in how they live? Did Paul
teach women to keep silent in the church, or did he teach both men and women
to keep silent? There were some reasons for this in Bible times.
Laura wrote:
... are Jewish believers still supposed
to observe the OT law?
Actually, it is impossible in that there is no Temple which is required for
many of the commandments. Nevertheless, it is not sin for a Jew to observe
that part of the Old Testament that he can observe. Yes, the Jew
In a message dated 12/23/2002 2:52:29 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The Messianic movement we see around us has a Godly root. It is fulfillment
of prophecy such as this one.I agree I'm not saying that everything that happens
in this movement is of God, but we cannot close
DAVEH: That you think that is "entirely
fair" tells me a lot about you, Izzy! :-)
Why would it not be fair if I simply never read it?
After all, it does nothing to fulfill my reason for being in TT.
ShieldsFamily wrote:
DaveH,
I would continue to insist that you read the Larson book as a
"...adulterating Paul's gospel. That is NT
101!!!" Laura
Are you saying that Paul's teachings do not harmonize with
the rest of scripture?
If so, which other books have to be torn out and
burned?
--Marlin
In a message dated 12/22/2002 7:43:17 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Nevertheless, he believed it was wrong to teach Gentiles
to become Torah observant. Furthermore, he believed that GENTILES who felt
compelled to become circumcised and become JEWS were actually departing
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Nevertheless, he believed it was
wrong to teach Gentiles
to become Torah observant. Furthermore, he believed that GENTILES who
felt
compelled to become
ShieldsFamily wrote:
David,
thanks for the kind words. But if I became a list moderator Im afraid
all the poor mormons would split!J
Izzy
DAVEH: And why would you think that, Izzy? Would
you not treat us fairly? :-)
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Glenn, I think you are being facetious. Izzy
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I know you don't
I might be, but your arguments in favor of Marlin's teaching (that we must observe the Old Testament Sabbath in order to be right with God) are arguments in favor of eternal security.
Glenn, I think you are being facetious. Izzy
Glenn, I think your conclusions are
irrational. J Izzy
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OK, I will tell you one more time and then drop it. The purpose of the book of Galatians was to refute the Judaizer's doctrines. One of their doctrines was to require Old Testament Sabbath keeping in order to be right with God. This is what Marlin is teaching. Gal. 5:4 says those who teach such
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Glenn,
It may be difficult for you to understand that I have not defended any of
Marlin's beliefs as much as I have defended his
Glenn wrote:
... I don't think your point is correct BECAUSE
Marlin started out with his secrecy attitude of
posting links and refusing to explain them. When
I would ask him to explain his posts, he would
makes statements that said words to the effect,
that the posts are for those who are
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Glenn,
It may be difficult for you to understand that I have not defended any of
Marlin's beliefs as much as I have defended his right to express and discuss
his beliefs without bei
DavidM - What you so below is so full of nonsense it would take weeks to discuss it. I am leaving TT. I don't have to time for this.
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I also have given Marlin a tough time but my point is that he seems to think
that I am not right with God if I don't adhere to his
beliefs. I have no problem with him believing whatever but it is when he
trys to say that I have to believe the same thing that
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Izzy, you are RIGHT ON TRACK. I agree with you 100%. Maybe
you would
consider being list moderator because I don't have time to keep up with
all
the posts and help keep the conversation civil. By the time I
read the
emails, there are so many
Glenn wrote:
What you so below is so full of nonsense it would
take weeks to discuss it. I am leaving TT.
Aw, come on, Glenn. You can dish it out but you can't take it, eh?
Peace be with you.
David Miller, Beverly Hills, Florida USA
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Let your speech be always with grace,
Glenn, I was wondering what your position
is on the once saved, always saved issue. I dont swallow
it. I dont think you do either, but I wanted to verify that. Izzy
PS It is hard for me to believe the Holy Spirit
told you anything about Marlin because your attitude towards him seems so
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Glenn, I was wondering what your
position is on the once saved, always saved issue. I dont swallow it. I
dont think you do either, but I wanted to verify that. Izzy
: [TruthTalk] Once
saved, always saved?
You convinced me that eternal security is the correct
Biblical position. You convinced by your defending of Marlin.
Glenn, I
was wondering what your position is on the once saved, always saved issue. I
dont swallow it. I dont think you do either, but I
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