Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor



More accurately - the lack of understanding is just 
plain obdurance in those too full
of themselves and their own opinions to yeild to the 
source of understanding all Truth.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:00:03 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  ..also,perceptively: 
   "The Lack of 
  understanding is just laziness of thought and lack of effort."
  
  On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:23:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
bullseye; v 
understandable, Bro!

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  

||
..you are out there Lance, possiblyin the 
next orbit to Gary.

  


Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
Please Post with Perpescuity

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ..also, perceptively: 
  The Lack of understanding is just laziness of thought and
 lack
 of effort.
 
 On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:23:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 bullseye; v understandable, Bro!
 
 On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  Fits the legal definition of Libel
 
 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 ||
 ..you are out there Lance, possibly in the next orbit to Gary.


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Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Just quoting your words while mocking
Lance --   And your comments on FUNDIES have hurt me, kd


I was just being facetious, that would be jesting for those of you with
the liberal world views.

I have found His grace is all complete,
He supplieth ev’ry need;
While I sit and learn at Jesus’ feet,
I am free, yes, free indeed.

Refrain

It is joy unspeakable and full of glory,
Full of glory, full of glory,
It is joy unspeakable and full of glory,
Oh, the half has never yet been told.

I have found the pleasure I once craved,
It is joy and peace within;
What a wondrous blessing! I am saved
From the awful gulf of sin.

Refrain

I have found that hope so bright and clear,
Living in the realm of grace;
Oh, the Savior’s presence is so near,
I can see His smiling face.

Refrain

I have found the joy no tongue can tell,
How its waves of glory roll!
It is like a great o’erflowing well,
Springing up within my soul.

Refrain

THE HALF HAS NEVER BEEN TOLD!

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just quoting your words while mocking Lance --
  And your comments on FUNDIES have hurt me, kd
 
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Are you trying?
 Why would my feelings be hurt?
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So file a claim  !  Or are you afraid the judge might not see it as
 libel ?!! 
 (I am there with the humor   --  have I hurt your feelings yet?)
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 The Lack of understanding is just laziness of thought and lack of
 effort. 
 Fits the legal definition of Libel
 
 Judy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Just one more example which proves the fact that you have not ever
 understood what any of us have been saying.  Not really.  I know I am
 not into Dominion Theology and I don't hear it coming from Iz, Kevin,
 or David either.  So you are out there Lance, possibly in the next
 orbit to Gary.
 
 On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 Lance Muir
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction:
 The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same
 emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess
 you've gotten me into, Stanley...'
 - Original Message - 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
 
 
 I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that
 has been written on TT.   
 
 jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Deegan 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Bible N Sword!
 
 Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed
 Catholic Taliban)
 This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually
 have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.
 
 The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is
 literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock
 literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock,
 which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the
 head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the
 final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is
 therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North
 
 “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to
 take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents,
 it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter
 is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the
 family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing
 God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital
 crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North
 
 “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain
 exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit
 publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His
 Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion -
 must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.”
 Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva
 
 ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other
 cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as
 the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
 
 Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty
 and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's
 blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has
 abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds
 CALVINistic to me)
 
 There is only one

RE: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-25 Thread Kevin Deegan
For guys that are always harping well if you don't get it Let us just
move on! it does seem a bit odd to say the least. Maybe it is they who
do not get it, they just want to move on.
Before you catch on.

Thought Police say OK move along let's go

--- ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Funny how some guys take a false assumption to the extreme, hey Judy?
 iz
 
   _  
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Taylor
 Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 5:53 PM
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Cc: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
 
  
 
 Just one more example which proves the fact that you have not ever
 understood what any of us
 
 have been saying.  Not really.  I know I am not into Dominion
 Theology and I
 don't hear it coming from
 
 Iz, Kevin, or David either.  So you are out there Lance, possibly in
 the
 next orbit to Gary.
 
  
 
 On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 Lance Muir
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
 
 You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction:
 The word
 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone
 that
 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me
 into,
 Stanley...'
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 
 Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
 
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
 
  
 
 I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that
 has
 been written on TT.   
 
  
 
 jd
 
  
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.
 
 - Original Message - 
 
 From: Kevin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Deegan 
 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 
 Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
 
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
 
  
 
  
 
  
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zwingli_statue.jpg Statue of
 Zwingli
 in Zürich
 
  
 
 Bible N Sword!
 
  
 
 Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed
 Catholic Taliban)
 
 This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually
 have
 joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.
 
  
 
 The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is
 literally
 a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally
 a means
 of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic
 of
 God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in
 Genesis
 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all
 the
 hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment
 against
 murder.” Gary North
 
  
 
 “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to
 take
 the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it
 unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is
 under
 the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family
 must be
 maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy)
 is a
 comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary
 New
 Geneva North
 
  
 
 “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain
 exclusive
 control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to
 the
 eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks
 of the
 covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship,
 just as
 they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North
 written from New Geneva
 
  
 
 ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other
 cheek is
 a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the
 Christian is
 impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
 
 Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty
 and
 disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings
 come
 only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned
 God's tool
 of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)
 
 There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile
 wife
 under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of
 Old
 Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary
 we are
 the replacement North
 
  
 
 What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a
 strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North
 
  
 
  Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the
 contrary, He
 was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to
 keep His
 word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North
 
 “The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between
 fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of
 the
 battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between
 the
 Christian reconstruction movement, which alone

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-25 Thread Judy Taylor





Sure is ... the last thing I would label any of the 
ones named is a Dominion
Theologist. Sometimes I wonder about their 
definition of "fundamentalist"
and if to be fairthey should write a new 
dictionary for those who are out of
THEIR loop?

ShieldsFamily [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:   Funny how some guys take a false assumption to the 
extreme, hey  Judy? iz  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
On Behalf Of Judy   Just one more example which proves the 
fact that you have not ever  understood what any of us  
  have been saying. Not really. I know I am not into 
Dominion  Theology and I  don't hear it coming 
fromIz, Kevin, or David either. So you are out 
there Lance, possibly  in  the  next orbit to 
Gary.On Fri, 24 
Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 "Lance Muir"  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
writes:You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin 
 David) Stage direction:  The word  'certainly' 
should be spoken so as to provide the same  emphasis/tone  
that  'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've 
gotten me  into,  Stanley...'
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48   
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion 
   I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in 
much  that  has  been written on TT. 
jd  
  -- Original message 
--   From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
  Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best 
buds.- Original Message -   
  From: Kevin mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Deegan To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04   
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion 
 
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Zwingli_statue.jpg 
Statue of  Zwingli  in Zürich   
 Bible N Sword!   
 Here are some interesting quotes from 
Calvinist Gary North  (Reformed  Catholic Taliban) 
   This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they 
actually  have  joined themselves to the synogogue of 
Satan."The fifth 
and by far the most important reason is that stoning is  
literally  a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a 
rock  literally  a means  of crushing the 
murderer's head by means of a rock, which is  symbolic  
of  God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the 
serpent  in  Genesis  3:15. This symbolism 
testifies to the final victory of God over  all  the 
 hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment 
 against  murder.” Gary North
“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a 
criminal offense  to  take  the name of the Lord 
in vain? When people curse their parents, it  unquestionably is a 
capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter  is  
under  the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the 
family  must be  maintained by the threat of death. 
Clearly, cursing God  (blasphemy)  is a  
comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16).  
Gary  New  Geneva North
“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should 
be to gain  exclusive  control over the franchise. Those 
who refuse to submit publicly to  the  eternal sanctions 
of God by submitting to His Church's public  marks  of 
the  covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied  
citizenship,  just as  they were in ancient Israel.” 
Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists)  North  written from New 
Geneva
”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other  
cheek is  a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as 
the  Christian is  impotent politically or militarily. 
Gary NorthSatan cannot win. Why not? Because he has 
denied God's sovereignty  and  disobeyed God's law. But 
Moses was told explicitly, God's  blessings  come 
 only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned 
 God's tool  of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds 
CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is 
not a bigamist. He took no gentile  wife  under the Old 
Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of  Old 
 Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary 
 "we are  the replacement" North   
 What the ten commandments set forth is a 
strategy. This strategy  is a  strategy for dominion. Gary 
(enforce the law with the sword) North 
   " Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On 
the  contrary, He  was affirming biblical law. We love 
God first; God commands us to  keep His  word; 
therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North  
  “The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is 
between  fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This 
conception  of  the  battle is fundamentally 
incorrect. The battle for the mind is  between  the 
 Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant 
 groups t

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir



Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would 
be best buds.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin 
  Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Bible N Sword!
  
  Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary 
  North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
  This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have 
  joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.
  
  "The fifth and by far the most important reason is that 
  stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a 
  rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, 
  which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the 
  serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God 
  over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the 
  commandment against murder.” Gary North
  
  “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal 
  offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, 
  it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under 
  the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family 
  must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God 
  (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 
  24:16). Gary New Geneva North
  
  “The long-term goal of 
  Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. 
  Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions 
  of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism 
  and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient 
  Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New 
  Geneva
  
  ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: 
  turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a 
  valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent 
  politically or militarily. Gary North
  Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's 
  sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told 
  explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win 
  because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical 
  law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile 
  wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old 
  Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we 
  are the replacement" North
  
  What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This 
  strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the 
  sword) North
  
  " Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, 
  He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His 
  word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary 
  North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists 
  believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This 
  conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind 
  is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among 
  Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone 
  else.”
  

  
- 
From: 
Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: 
Williams on Creationism

Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 

"if ever a 
continent of covenant-breakers deserved this 
attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." PopeGary 
North (comments added) 
Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics 
should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those 
who refuse to submit...must be denied citizenship". 

Reformed Baptist? LOL 
Baptist Reconstruction? LOL
Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL
Baptist DominionISM? LOL
Baptist Pope ROTFL

RC Pope Calvin
Reformed Presbyterian
Bring in the kingdom Presbytery  JD
Replacement Theology "We are Jews" Presbytery, 
Romans,Reformed C's, Mormons, Reformed, JD  Lance!

Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists
http://www.reformedreader.org/histb.htm
see # 4 The priesthood of the believer  #5 right of soul 
liberty or religious liberty
# 7 The Separation of Church and State

Try to get your baseless assertions straight: 
Gary North Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
RJ Rushdoony Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
Gary Demar -Reformed Catholic - presbytery

Kindy garten 101 - Who

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
If that is so then maybe you skipped the fourth word.Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.- Original Message -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04 
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion  Bible N Sword!Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)  This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew,
 they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan."The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat
 of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North  Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" NorthWhat the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to
 keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”-   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismIs KD a pseudonym for Gary North? "if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." PopeGary North (comments added)   Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit...must be denied
 citizenship". Reformed Baptist? LOL   Baptist Reconstruction? LOL  Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL  Baptist DominionISM? LOL  Baptist Pope ROTFLRC Pope Calvin  Reformed Presbyterian  Bring in the kingdom Presbytery  JD  Replacement Theology "We are Jews" Presbytery, Romans,Reformed C's, Mormons, Reformed, JD  Lance!Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists  http://www.reformedreader.org/histb.htm  see # 4 The priesthood of the believer  #5 right of soul liberty or religious liberty  # 7 The Separation of Church and StateTry to get your baseless assertions straight:   Gary North Reformed Catholic - Presbytery  RJ Rushdoony
 Reformed Catholic - Presbytery  Gary Demar -Reformed Catholic - presbyteryKindy garten 101 - Who is who?  Baptist Roger Williams Holding a Bible http://www.zbt.org/traditions/Roger_Williams_photo.htmPROTESTant RC Zwingly - Holding Bible  SWORD  http://www.antipas.org/books/protesters/prot_images/zwingli.jpgFor all you kiddies TEST QUESTION who has the sword?Even some Presbyterian RC's admit they are just RC  http://reformedcatholicism.blogspot.com/Dominion is the S

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise

I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion






Bible N Sword!

Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.

"The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North

“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North

“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva

”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" North

What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North

" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”



- 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 

"if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." PopeGary North (comments added) 
Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit...must be denied citizenship". 

Reformed Baptist? LOL 
Baptist Reconstruction? LOL
Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL
Baptist DominionISM? LOL
Baptist Pope ROTFL

RC Pope Calvin
Reformed Presbyterian
Bring in the kingdom Presbytery  JD
Replacement Theology "We are Jews" Presbytery, Romans,Reformed C's, Mormons, Reformed, JD  Lance!

Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists
http://www.reformedreader.org/histb.htm
see # 4 The priesthood of the believer  #5 right of soul liberty or religious liberty
# 7 The Separation of Church and State

Try to get your baseless assertions straight: 
Gary North Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
RJ Rushdoony Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
Gary Demar -Reformed Catholic - presbytery

Kindy garten 101 - Who is who?
Baptist Roger Williams Holding a Bible http://www.zbt.org/traditions/Roger_Williams_photo.htm

PROTESTant RC Zwingly - Holding Bible  SWORD
http://www.antipas.org/books/protesters/prot_images/zwingli.jpg

For all you kiddies TEST QUESTION who has the sword?

Even some Presbyterian RC's admit they are just RC
http://reformedcatholicism.blogspot.com/


Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir



You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  
David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide 
the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess 
you've gotten me into, Stanley...'

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
  
  I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has 
  been written on TT. 
  
  jd
  
  -- 
Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary 
would be best buds.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 
  Dominion
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Bible N Sword!
  
  Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary 
  North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
  This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually 
  have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.
  
  "The fifth and by far the most important reason is 
  that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means 
  of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a 
  rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the 
  head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final 
  victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore 
  integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary 
  North
  
  “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a 
  criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse 
  their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son 
  or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The 
  integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of 
  death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, 
  and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva 
  North
  
  “The long-term goal 
  of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the 
  franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the 
  eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the 
  covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just 
  as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North 
  written from New Geneva
  
  ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be 
  apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It 
  is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is 
  impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
  Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied 
  God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was 
  told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not 
  win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, 
  biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no 
  gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale 
  imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the 
  future. Gary "we are the replacement" North
  
  What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. 
  This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law 
  with the sword) North
  
  " Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the 
  contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands 
  us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” 
  Gary North“The battle for the mind, some 
  fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of 
  the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The 
  battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction 
  movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes 
  seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”
  

  
- 
From: 
Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 23, 2006 
17:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: 
Williams on Creationism

Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 

"if ever a 
continent of covenant-breakers deserved this 
attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." 
PopeGary North (comments added) 
Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics 
   

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise

Yes. Look at Pat Robertson. If he were president, he would be killing heads of state he considers enemies of the [our] state. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...'

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion






Bible N Sword!

Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.

"The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North

“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North

“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva

”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" North

What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North

" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”



- 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 

"if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." PopeGary North (comments added) 
Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit...must be denied citizenship". 

Reformed Baptist? LOL 
Baptist Reconstruction? LOL
Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL
Baptist DominionISM? LOL
Baptist Pope ROTFL

RC Pope Calvin
Reformed Presbyterian
Bring in the kingdom Presbytery  JD
Replacement Theology "We are Jews" Presbytery, Romans,Reformed C's, Mormons, Reformed, JD  Lance!

Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists
http://www.reformedreader.org/histb.htm
see # 4 The priesthood of the beli

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread David Miller



I have seen NOBODY on TruthTalk express the theology of Gary North. 
You guys sound to me like the way you hearJudy talking authoritatively 
about Torrance. :-) It is obvious that you do not understand the 
theology of North and others on TruthTalk.

David Miller


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Lance 
  Muir 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:59 
AM
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
  
  You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  
  David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide 
  the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess 
  you've gotten me into, Stanley...'
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; 
TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that 
has been written on TT. 

jd

-- 
  Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary 
  would be best buds.
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
    Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 
    Dominion






Bible N Sword!

Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist 
Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually 
have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.

"The fifth and by far the most important reason is 
that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by 
means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by 
means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the 
crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism 
testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. 
Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment 
against murder.” Gary North

“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a 
criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse 
their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son 
or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The 
integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of 
death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, 
and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva 
North

“The long-term 
goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over 
the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to 
the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks 
of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied 
citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON 
Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva

”Nevertheless, this one fact should be 
apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It 
is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is 
impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied 
God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses 
was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan 
will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of 
dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds 
CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God 
is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and 
He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern 
Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the 
replacement" North

What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. 
This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law 
with the sword) North

" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the 
contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands 
us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” 
Gary North“The battle for the mind, some 
fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions 
of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. 
The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction 
movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes 
seriously the

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Lance Muir



I read his father-in-law's 'Institutes of Biblical 
Law' (RJR). I read some of North's books. I followed him during the Y2K 
controversy through his appearances on 'Coast to Coast' with Art Bell. I taped 
and distributed those shows. (MORE DIRECT ANSWER: I am indeed familiar with the 
theonomist approach!) Having said that, I'd say that the similarity might be 
more in tone though some content as well, David.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  David Miller 
  
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 24, 2006 10:57
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
  
  I have seen NOBODY on TruthTalk express the theology of Gary North. 
  You guys sound to me like the way you hearJudy talking authoritatively 
  about Torrance. :-) It is obvious that you do not understand the 
  theology of North and others on TruthTalk.
  
  David Miller
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Lance 
Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 

Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:59 
AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  
David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to 
provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another 
fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...'

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 
  Dominion
  
  I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that 
  has been written on TT. 
  
  jd
  
  -- 
Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary 
would be best buds.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kevin Deegan 
  To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
  
  Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] 
  Dominion
  
  
  
  
  
  
  Bible N 
  Sword!
  
  Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist 
  Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
  This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they 
  actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.
  
  "The fifth and by far the most important reason 
  is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head 
  by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head 
  by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the 
  crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism 
  testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. 
  Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment 
  against murder.” Gary North
  
  “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a 
  criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people 
  curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). 
  The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. 
  The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat 
  of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable 
  crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva 
  North
  
  “The long-term 
  goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control 
  over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit 
  publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's 
  public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be 
  denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death 
  to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva
  
  ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be 
  apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. 
  It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian 
  is impotent politically or militarily. Gary 
  North
  Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied 
  God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses 
  was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan 
  will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of 
  dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds 
  CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; 
  God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, 
  and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - 
  modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the 
  replacement" North

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
So you learned something.
He was a leader in the Dominion/Reconstruction movement I believe he
was also Rushdoony's Son in Law.

The real direction of the movement is slavery or Stoning for those it
decides are not right with their concept of God.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that
 has been written on TT.   
 
 jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Lance Muir [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Kevin Deegan 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Bible N Sword!
 
 Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed
 Catholic Taliban)
 This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually
 have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.
 
 The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is
 literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock
 literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock,
 which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the
 head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the
 final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is
 therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North
 
 “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to
 take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents,
 it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter
 is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the
 family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing
 God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital
 crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North
 
 “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain
 exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit
 publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His
 Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion -
 must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.”
 Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva
 
 ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other
 cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as
 the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
 
 Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty
 and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's
 blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has
 abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds
 CALVINistic to me)
 
 There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile
 wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation
 of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future.
 Gary we are the replacement North
 
 What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a
 strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North
 
  Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the
 contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God
 commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on
 ourselves.” Gary North
 
 “The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between
 fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of
 the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is
 between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among
 Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”
 - 
 From: Kevin Deegan 
 To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
 Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52
 Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism
 
 
 Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 
 
 
 if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution
 (extermination), the native Americans did. Pope Gary North
 (comments added) 
 Pope Gary North The long-term goal of Christians in politics should
 be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to
 submit...must be denied citizenship. 
 
 Reformed Baptist? LOL 
 Baptist Reconstruction? LOL
 Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL
 Baptist DominionISM? LOL
 Baptist Pope ROTFL
 
 RC Pope Calvin
 Reformed Presbyterian
 Bring in the kingdom Presbytery  JD
 Replacement Theology We are Jews Presbytery, Romans, Reformed C's,
 Mormons, Reformed, JD  Lance!
 
 Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists
 http://www.reformedreader.org/histb.htm
 see # 4 The priesthood of the believer  #5 right of soul liberty or
 religious liberty
 # 7 The Separation of Church and State
 
 Try to get your baseless assertions straight: 
 Gary North Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
 RJ Rushdoony Reformed Catholic - Presbytery
 Gary Demar -Reformed Catholic - presbytery
 
 Kindy garten 101 - Who is who?
 Baptist Roger Williams

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise

I believe Lance has the more accurate picture of what I was trying to convey.

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

I read his father-in-law's 'Institutes of Biblical Law' (RJR). I read some of North's books. I followed him during the Y2K controversy through his appearances on 'Coast to Coast' with Art Bell. I taped and distributed those shows. (MORE DIRECT ANSWER: I am indeed familiar with the theonomist approach!) Having said that, I'd say that the similarity might be more in tone though some content as well, David.

- Original Message - 
From: David Miller 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 10:57
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

I have seen NOBODY on TruthTalk express the theology of Gary North. You guys sound to me like the way you hearJudy talking authoritatively about Torrance. :-) It is obvious that you do not understand the theology of North and others on TruthTalk.

David Miller


- Original Message - 
From: Lance Muir 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...'

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion






Bible N Sword!

Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.

"The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North

“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North

“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva

”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" North

What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North

" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”



- 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise

Who was the violent one? Rushdooney or his son-in-law?

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sandlin10.html

jd

-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]  So you learned something.  He was a leader in the Dominion/Reconstruction movement I believe he  was also Rushdoony's Son in Law.   The real direction of the movement is slavery or Stoning for those it  decides are not right with their concept of God.   --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that   has been written on TT. jd -- Original message --   From: "Lance Muir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.   - Original Message -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
y.org   Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion   Bible N Sword! Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed   Catholic Taliban)   This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually   have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan. "The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is   literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock   literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock,   which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the   head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the   final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is   therefore integral to the commandment against murd
er.” Gary North “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to   take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents,   it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter   is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the   family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing   God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital   crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain   exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit   publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His   Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion -   must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.”   Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North writ
ten from New Geneva ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other   cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as   the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty   and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's   blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has   abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds   CALVINistic to me) There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile   wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation   of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future.   Gary "we are the replacement" North What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy 
is a   strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North " Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the   contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God   commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on   ourselves.” Gary North “The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between   fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of   the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is   between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among   Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”   -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism   Is K
D a pseudonym for Gary North?   "if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution   (extermination), the "native Americans" did." Pope Gary North   (comments added)   Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should   be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to   submit...must be denied citizenship". Reformed Baptist? LOL   Baptist Reconstruction? LOL   Baptist Kingdom builders? LOL   Baptist DominionISM? LOL   Baptist Pope ROTFL RC Pope Calvin   Reformed Presbyterian   Bring in the kingdom Presbytery  JD   Replacement Theology "We are Jews" Presbytery, Romans, Reformed C's,   Mormons, Reformed, JD  Lance! Apparently you are TOTALLY IGNORANT of Baptists   http://www.reforme
dreader.org/histb.htm   see # 4 The

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
Todays Reconstruntionists would like to forget a thing or two about
both of them. But watch out these beliefs run deep and rampant with
this crowd! Many believe we are in a spiritual war and during time of
war even God overlooks some actions such as lying. qoutes on request.
One only needs to do a google on rushdoony racist, rushdoony
confederate, nazi, etc.

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Who was the violent one?  Rushdooney or his son-in-law?
 
 http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig/sandlin10.html
 
 jd
 
 -- Original message -- 
 From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  So you learned something. 
  He was a leader in the Dominion/Reconstruction movement I believe
 he 
  was also Rushdoony's Son in Law. 
  
  The real direction of the movement is slavery or Stoning for those
 it 
  decides are not right with their concept of God. 
  
  --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  
   I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much
 that 
   has been written on TT. 
   
   jd 
   
   -- Original message -- 
   From: Lance Muir 
   
   Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds. 
   - Original Message - 
   From: Kevin Deegan 
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04 
   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion 
   
   
   
   
   
   
   Bible N Sword! 
   
   Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North
 (Reformed 
   Catholic Taliban) 
   This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they
 actually 
   have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan. 
   
   The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning
 is 
   literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a
 rock 
   literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a
 rock, 
   which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of
 the 
   head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to
 the 
   final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is 
   therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North
 
   
   “The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense
 to 
   take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their
 parents, 
   it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or
 daughter 
   is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of
 the 
   family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly,
 cursing 
   God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital
 
   crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North 
   
   “The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain 
   exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit 
   publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His 
   Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy
 communion - 
   must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.”
 
   Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva 
   
   ”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the
 other 
   cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long
 as 
   the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North 
   
   Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's
 sovereignty 
   and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's 
   blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he
 has 
   abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North
 (sounds 
   CALVINistic to me) 
   
   There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no
 gentile 
   wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale
 imitation 
   of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the
 future. 
   Gary we are the replacement North 
   
   What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy
 is a 
   strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword)
 North 
   
Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the 
   contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God 
   commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law
 on 
   ourselves.” Gary North 
   
   “The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is
 between 
   fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception
 of 
   the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is
 
   between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among 
   Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone
 else.” 
   - 
   From: Kevin Deegan 
   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
   Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52 
   Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism 
   
   
   Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 
   
   
   if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this
 attribution 
   (extermination), the native Americans did. Pope Gary North 
   (comments added) 
   Pope Gary North The long-term goal of Christians in politics
 should

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
The Lack of understanding is just laziness of thought and lack of effort.  Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Just one more example which proves the fact that you have not ever understood what any of us have been saying. Not really. I know I am not into Dominion Theology and I don't hear it coming from Iz, Kevin, or David either. So you are out there Lance, possiblyin the next orbit to Gary.On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...'- Original Message -   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DominionI have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT. jd-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.- Original Message -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion  Bible N Sword!Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)  This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan."The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North  Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" NorthWhat the ten
 commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”-   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismIs KD a pseudonym for Gary North? "if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved
 this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." PopeGary North (comments added)   Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit...must be denied citizenship". Reformed Baptist? LOL   Baptist Reconstruction? LOL  Baptist Kingdom builder

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise

Sofile a claim ! Or are you afraid the judge might not see it as libel ?!!
(I am there with the humor -- have I hurt your feelings yet?)
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
The Lack of understanding is just laziness of thought and lack of effort.
Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just one more example which proves the fact that you have not ever understood what any of us have been saying. Not really. I know I am not into Dominion Theology and I don't hear it coming from Iz, Kevin, or David either. So you are out there Lance, possiblyin the next orbit to Gary.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...'

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion






Bible N Sword!

Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.

"The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North

“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North

“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva

”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" North

What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North

" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”



- 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 

"if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did." PopeGary North (comments added) 
Pope Gary North "The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the f

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread Kevin Deegan
Are you trying?  Why would my feelings be hurt?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Sofile a claim ! Or are you afraid the judge might not see it as libel ?!!  (I am there with the humor -- have I hurt your feelings yet?)  -- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED]   The Lack of understanding is just laziness of thought and lack of effort.  Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Just one more example which proves the fact that you have not ever understood what any of us have been saying. Not really. I know I am not into Dominion Theology and I don't hear it coming from Iz, Kevin, or David either. So you are out there Lance, possiblyin the next orbit to Gary.On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...'- Original Message -   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] DominionI have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT. jd-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.- Original Message -   From: Kevin Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion  Bible N Sword!Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)  This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have
 joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan."The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death.
 Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North  Satan cannot
 win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" NorthWhat the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word;
 therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”-   From: Kevin
 Deegan   To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org   Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52  Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on CreationismIs KD a pseudonym for Gary North? "if ever a continent of covenant-breakers deserved this attribution (extermination), the "native Americans" did."

Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread ttxpress



bullseye; v 
understandable, Bro!

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

  Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

||
..you are out there Lance, possiblyin the 
next orbit to Gary.


Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread ttxpress



..also,perceptively: 
 "The Lack of understanding 
is just laziness of thought and lack of effort."

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:23:04 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  bullseye; v 
  understandable, Bro!
  
  On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:30:28 -0800 (PST) Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  writes:
  
Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

  
  ||
  ..you are out there Lance, possiblyin the 
  next orbit to Gary.
  


Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

2006-03-24 Thread knpraise

Just quoting your words while mocking Lance  --
And your comments on "FUNDIES" have hurt me, kd


-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Are you trying?
Why would my feelings be hurt?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sofile a claim ! Or are you afraid the judge might not see it as libel ?!!
(I am there with the humor -- have I hurt your feelings yet?)
-- Original message -- From: Kevin Deegan [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
The Lack of understanding is just laziness of thought and lack of effort.
Fits the legal definition of LibelJudy Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Just one more example which proves the fact that you have not ever understood what any of us have been saying. Not really. I know I am not into Dominion Theology and I don't hear it coming from Iz, Kevin, or David either. So you are out there Lance, possiblyin the next orbit to Gary.

On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:59:22 -0500 "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

You certainly have! (see Iz, Judy, Kevin  David) Stage direction: The word 'certainly' should be spoken so as to provide the same emphasis/tone that 'Ollie' had when saying 'here's another fine mess you've gotten me into, Stanley...'

- Original Message - 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org ; TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 09:48
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion

I have never heard of Gary North, but I see his theology in much that has been written on TT. 

jd

-- Original message -- From: "Lance Muir" [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Funny, I would've thought that you and Gary would be best buds.

- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 24, 2006 07:04
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Dominion






Bible N Sword!

Here are some interesting quotes from Calvinist Gary North (Reformed Catholic Taliban)
This is what happens when one thinks they are a Jew, they actually have joined themselves to the synogogue of Satan.

"The fifth and by far the most important reason is that stoning is literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock literally a means of crushing the murderer's head by means of a rock, which is symbolic of God. This is analogous to the crushing of the head of the serpent in Genesis 3:15. This symbolism testifies to the final victory of God over all the hosts of Satan. Stoning is therefore integral to the commandment against murder.” Gary North

“The question eventually must be raised: Is it a criminal offense to take the name of the Lord in vain? When people curse their parents, it unquestionably is a capital crime (Ex. 21:17). The son or daughter is under the lawful jurisdiction of the family. The integrity of the family must be maintained by the threat of death. Clearly, cursing God (blasphemy) is a comparable crime, and is therefore a capital crime (Lev. 24:16). Gary New Geneva North

“The long-term goal of Christians in politics should be to gain exclusive control over the franchise. Those who refuse to submit publicly to the eternal sanctions of God by submitting to His Church's public marks of the covenant - baptism and holy communion - must be denied citizenship, just as they were in ancient Israel.” Gary (death to NON Paedobaptists) North written from New Geneva

”Nevertheless, this one fact should be apparent: turning the other cheek is a bribe. It is a valid form of action for only so long as the Christian is impotent politically or militarily. Gary North
Satan cannot win. Why not? Because he has denied God's sovereignty and disobeyed God's law. But Moses was told explicitly, God's blessings come only from obedience. Satan will not win because he has abandoned God's tool of dominion, biblical law. Gary North (sounds CALVINistic to me)There is only one Bride; God is not a bigamist. He took no gentile wife under the Old Covenant, and He will not accept a pale imitation of Old Covenant Israel - modern Judaism - as His wife in the future. Gary "we are the replacement" North

What the ten commandments set forth is a strategy. This strategy is a strategy for dominion. Gary (enforce the law with the sword) North

" Jesus was not denying the legitimacy of biblical law. On the contrary, He was affirming biblical law. We love God first; God commands us to keep His word; therefore, we must enforce the law on ourselves.” Gary North“The battle for the mind, some fundamentalists believe, is between fundamentalism and the institutions of the Left. This conception of the battle is fundamentally incorrect. The battle for the mind is between the Christian reconstruction movement, which alone among Protestant groups takes seriously the law of God, and everyone else.”



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From: Kevin Deegan 
To: TruthTalk@mail.innglory.org 
Sent: March 23, 2006 17:52
Subject: Re: [TruthTalk] Fw: Williams on Creationism

Is KD a pseudonym for Gary North? 

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