Re: How to use extensions with the standalone launcher?

2006-08-01 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Jeremy, Why not name them as extension.scdl. Though for most parts they might be treated as any other scdl some where we treat them a little differently as in adding them to extensions and so on. Infact a solution developer could develop some extensions and applications and keep them all bu

Re: svn:ignore ..., was: svn commit: r427726 [1/2]

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Jim Marino wrote: Yea for some reason it's not picking it up on my machine. Have any idea what may be happening since you have the same box as me? I don't think it does it automatically - I always have to set it manually before checking in. I typically do an "svn

Re: JAX-WS RI binding

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
How about moral support - I'm swamped ;-) Seriously, you may want to sync with Jervis since he mentioned reusing some pieces across Axis2 and Celtix. Jim On Aug 1, 2006, at 6:23 PM, Ken Tam wrote: I'm about to start working on a binding for the Sun JAX-WS RI, akin to the Celtix & Axis2 bi

Re: Build and distribution modularity

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
On Aug 1, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Ken Tam wrote: Proposal 1: Support independent build and distributions at the top level Rationale: Users interested in different technologies such as SCA and SDO do not want to have to build all of them together. This also gives a false impression that there are st

Re: svn:ignore ..., was: svn commit: r427726 [1/2]

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
Yea for some reason it's not picking it up on my machine. Have any idea what may be happening since you have the same box as me? Jim On Aug 1, 2006, at 6:47 PM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Ken Tam wrote: done, thanks for the reminder Thanks - now we can both remind

Re: Is there an import.wsdl function in the new code base?

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Aug 1, 2006, at 4:49 PM, ant elder wrote: Is there an import.wsdl function or anything similar for defining wsdl files in scdl implemented yet in the new code base? IIRC the spec group had murmured something about using the WSDL2.0 wsdlLocation attribute e.g. and I think the Interf

CI, was: Build and distribution modularity

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Splitting into a different thread On Aug 1, 2006, at 6:07 PM, Ken Tam wrote: Proposal 4: We need a test suite for each distribution that mirrors user experience Rationale: When a user installs a distribution it's helpful if it works. ... We can't do this every time we build as not everyone wi

Re: svn:ignore ..., was: svn commit: r427726 [1/2]

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:44 PM, Ken Tam wrote: done, thanks for the reminder Thanks - now we can both remind Jim the next time he forgets ;-) -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Scope factory initialization: svn commit: r427726 [1/2] ...

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Ken Tam wrote: I was seeing a ScopeNotFoundException rather than an NPE I think, but yeah, it happened when a component defaulted to STATELESS scope (in the absence of an @Scope("MODULE")). I talked with Jim and we came to this fix together. OK - thanks for fixing

JAX-WS RI binding

2006-08-01 Thread Ken Tam
I'm about to start working on a binding for the Sun JAX-WS RI, akin to the Celtix & Axis2 bindings. Anyone else interested, please chime in! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PRO

Re: Build and distribution modularity

2006-08-01 Thread Ken Tam
Proposal 1: Support independent build and distributions at the top level Rationale: Users interested in different technologies such as SCA and SDO do not want to have to build all of them together. This also gives a false impression that there are strong dependencies between them. What this means

Re: Scope factory initialization: svn commit: r427726 [1/2] ...

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:29 PM, Ken Tam wrote: I was seeing a ScopeNotFoundException rather than an NPE I think, but yeah, it happened when a component defaulted to STATELESS scope (in the absence of an @Scope("MODULE")). I talked with Jim and we came to this fix together. Just so's I understand

Re: svn:ignore ..., was: svn commit: r427726 [1/2]

2006-08-01 Thread Ken Tam
done, thanks for the reminder On 8/1/06, Jeremy Boynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And please set the svn:ignore property for bigbank Thanks -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Scope factory initialization: svn commit: r427726 [1/2] ...

2006-08-01 Thread Ken Tam
I was seeing a ScopeNotFoundException rather than an NPE I think, but yeah, it happened when a component defaulted to STATELESS scope (in the absence of an @Scope("MODULE")). I talked with Jim and we came to this fix together. Just so's I understand what you're saying -- the problems you're desc

Re: Karma for Raymond

2006-08-01 Thread Jean-Sebastien Delfino
Jim Marino wrote: I'd like to propose we make Raymond a committer. Normally, I would list some of the things a candidate has done for the community but with Raymond he has done so much I wouldn't know where to begin. So, here's my +1 form making Raymond a committer. Jim

Is there an import.wsdl function in the new code base?

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
Is there an import.wsdl function or anything similar for defining wsdl files in scdl implemented yet in the new code base? ...ant

svn:ignore ..., was: svn commit: r427726 [1/2]

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
And please set the svn:ignore property for bigbank Thanks -- Jeremy - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Scope factory initialization: svn commit: r427726 [1/2] ...

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Ken, I think the factories should wait until their init method is called otherwise they are registering before they have finished being initialized. This also allows a "this" reference to leak before the object has finished being constructed (i.e. it could be invoked before it is fully in

Re: Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread Ken Tam
It seems like having the build infrastructure make it really easy to configure what components go into a distro would help us iterate our way to the "right" number and makeup of distros. While the POM and project structure manipulation required right now isn't particularly difficult, it could pro

Re: Build and distribution modularity

2006-08-01 Thread Kevin Williams
Maybe we should take a conservative approach initially (and this is probably something similar to #3, #4). As long as milestones are not too infrequent then I think we can release the three subprojects on the same schedule. Users should be able to easily pull SCA , SDO and DAS components ind

Re: How to use extensions with the standalone launcher?

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
How about until we have a way to do extensions properly to fix the problem Matthew is seeing the testcase could determine which is the application default.scdl by seeing if the resource URL starts with the current working directory which it can get from System.getProperty("user.dir")? ...ant O

Re: How to use extensions with the standalone launcher?

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Aug 1, 2006, at 11:28 AM, Matthew Sykes wrote: FWIW, I think I've been running into a problem at build time because of this exact issue. There's a bit of code in the javascript sample HelloWorldTestCase.java test that gathers up all of the META-INF/sca/default.scdl resources it can find

Re: SCA Tools

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:24 AM, Venkata Krishnan wrote: Hi Jeremy / Jim, first thanks for those answers. I am able to understand your perspectives. But just that one more question. If we do not generate a WSDL what do we publish for clients who which to connect to this component's service? I

Re: Axis2 Test generator

2006-08-01 Thread Davanum Srinivas
David, Axis2's WSDL2Java has an option to generate a junit test case. We could make sure that it works now and enhance that as appropriate. -- dims On 8/1/06, David Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Venkata: I was planning on at least using the WSDL2Java M1 tool to generate the java interface

Re: How to use extensions with the standalone launcher?

2006-08-01 Thread Matthew Sykes
FWIW, I think I've been running into a problem at build time because of this exact issue. There's a bit of code in the javascript sample HelloWorldTestCase.java test that gathers up all of the META-INF/sca/default.scdl resources it can find. The test then throws away the first resource in the

Re: Introspection of JavaScript components

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
Yea this is definitely simpler than a side file. I came across this but never tried it out a few years back: http://dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/anoras/archive/2004/08/09/21502.aspx Apparently it provides a way to "introspect" the script to retrieve Javadoc style annotations but the way you hav

Re: Introspection of JavaScript components

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
This looks cool. Graham Charters has been looking at similar things for a PHP programming model - if you haven't had chance yet you should sync up with him. -- Jeremy On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:08 AM, ant elder wrote: I've had a go at adding support for introspection of JavaScript components

Re: Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
There is also the bridge scenario where people are using JSON to talk to Ajax clients for the UI but want to access back-end services that are using SOAP/HTTP or SOAP/JMS (or XML over JMS ...). I think this is why we need a spectrum of distros determined by user scenarios. By the time we th

[ANNOUNCE] Tuscany C++ Milestone 1 Release

2006-08-01 Thread Caroline Maynard
The Apache Tuscany community is pleased to announce its first C++ milestone release. -- Pete Congratulations! We hope to follow this up soon with a PHP SDO release exploiting the latest C++ code. - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: SCA Tools

2006-08-01 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Jeremy / Jim, first thanks for those answers. I am able to understand your perspectives. But just that one more question. If we do not generate a WSDL what do we publish for clients who which to connect to this component's service? How would client applications know about the service's inte

Re: Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
I mostly agree, but one of the big benefits for Web services is the JavaScript E4X support. With that and when TUSCANY-419 and the magic databinding stuff is done this is going to make JavaScript components really really useful to use with WS i think. All the old WS debates about databindings and

Introspection of JavaScript components

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
I've had a go at adding support for introspection of JavaScript components and wondered if anyone had any comments. As JavaScript is untyped and doesn't have the concept of annotations its not possible to have this work as well as with Java components. How I've done it is to have the script defin

Re: Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
I think there's a difference. Web services play a prominent role in the SCA specs and are likely to be used by most people which makes a good case for including them in distributions by default. The JavaScript stuff, although useful, is not something covered by the spec at all and is likel

Re: Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
How about the JavaScript container be included by default as well then? Would make it easier to run samples but this brings up all the kitchen sink distro type questions being discussed on the modularity thread. ...ant On 8/1/06, cr22rc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm ok with that. I just tho

Re: Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread cr22rc
I'm ok with that. I just thought we may want ones without axis. But I'll put it in the others, if I hear nothing different. Jeremy Boynes wrote: Can we just add the binding to the existing distros? -- Jeremy On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Rick wrote: I'm currently in the process of trying to get

Re: Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
Can we just add the binding to the existing distros? -- Jeremy On Aug 1, 2006, at 9:19 AM, Rick wrote: I'm currently in the process of trying to get running a service using the Axis2 web service binding in Tomcat environment. The approach I'm taking is to create a new distro based off of K

Webservice via Axis2 in Tomcat.

2006-08-01 Thread Rick
I'm currently in the process of trying to get running a service using the Axis2 web service binding in Tomcat environment. The approach I'm taking is to create a new distro based off of Ken Tam's web one and add the current Axis 2.0 binding. I've revived the Hellowordlws from M1 sample and fix

Re: Karma for Raymond

2006-08-01 Thread Ken Tam
+1 On 7/31/06, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to propose we make Raymond a committer. Normally, I would list some of the things a candidate has done for the community but with Raymond he has done so much I wouldn't know where to begin. So, here's my +1 form making Raymond a commi

XPath 2.0 engine?

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
The recursive changes include support for complex properties accessed via XPath 2.0 expressions and the only XPath 2.0 engine I have found is Saxon (http://saxon.sourceforge.net) - others such as the one in the JRE and Jaxen only seem to support XPath 1.0. I have a couple of concerns over S

[ANNOUNCE] Tuscany C++ Milestone 1 Release

2006-08-01 Thread Pete Robbins
The Apache Tuscany community is pleased to announce its first C++ milestone release. You can download binary and source distributions from: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany/downloads.html For further information, visit our web site at: http://incubator.apache.org/tuscany Introduction ==

Re: SCA Tools

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
On Aug 1, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Jeremy Boynes wrote: On Aug 1, 2006, at 12:43 AM, Venkata Krishnan wrote: Jim :-))).. Please help me understand the scope of "not required". If something is not required then why have it in the first place? Are these things no longer relevant to the current

Re: Karma for Brent

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
+1 - Brent has done a lot of good work on DAS. -- Jeremy On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:57 PM, Kevin Williams wrote: I would like to recommend Brent for committership. Brent has made invaluable contributions to the DAS and has been a consistent provider of quality patches since the inception of this

Re: Axis2 Test generator

2006-08-01 Thread David Wheeler
Venkata: I was planning on at least using the WSDL2Java M1 tool to generate the java interface, but I'm not sure of the value beyond that. Ant: To generate the dummy data, The code in 419 definitly looks like it can be of alot of use. Thanks. -David On 8/1/06, ant elder < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wro

Re: Karma for Raymond

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
+1 - looking forward to having him on board. -- Jeremy On Jul 31, 2006, at 7:18 PM, Jim Marino wrote: I'd like to propose we make Raymond a committer. Normally, I would list some of the things a candidate has done for the community but with Raymond he has done so much I wouldn't know where t

Re: Composite classpaths, was: How to use extensions with the standalone launcher?

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Jul 31, 2006, at 11:42 PM, Jim Marino wrote: An end user application developer could write some type of library that gets reused by different composites. We should have a mechanism that supports this without resorting to maven. I think we should have some type of resolver abstraction, one

Re: Karma for Brent

2006-08-01 Thread Jim Marino
+1 from me. Jim On Jul 31, 2006, at 8:57 PM, Kevin Williams wrote: I would like to recommend Brent for committership. Brent has made invaluable contributions to the DAS and has been a consistent provider of quality patches since the inception of this project. Here is my +1 for Brent.

Re: Karma for Raymond

2006-08-01 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 On Monday July 31 2006 10:18 pm, Jim Marino wrote: > I'd like to propose we make Raymond a committer. Normally, I would > list some of the things a candidate has done for the community but > with Raymond he has done so much I wouldn't know where to begin. So, > here's my +1 form making Raymond

Re: Karma for Brent

2006-08-01 Thread Daniel Kulp
+1 On Monday July 31 2006 11:57 pm, Kevin Williams wrote: > I would like to recommend Brent for committership. Brent has made > invaluable contributions to the DAS and has been a consistent provider > of quality patches since the inception of this project. Here is my +1 > for Brent. > > --Kevin

Re: SCA Tools

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
On Aug 1, 2006, at 12:43 AM, Venkata Krishnan wrote: Jim :-))).. Please help me understand the scope of "not required". If something is not required then why have it in the first place? Are these things no longer relevant to the current Tuscany-Java? Jim is echoing a goal that SCA shou

Re: problem running supplychain sample from the command line

2006-08-01 Thread Jeremy Boynes
There were actually two symptoms: sometimes I would get this exception, sometimes it would just hang after printing the messages (which I think Rick mentioned as well). -- Jeremy On Aug 1, 2006, at 5:30 AM, Meeraj Kunnumpurath wrote: Thanks, I have managed reproduce the problem reported by

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-588) Update site for C++ M1 release

2006-08-01 Thread Pete Robbins (JIRA)
Update site for C++ M1 release -- Key: TUSCANY-588 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-588 Project: Tuscany Issue Type: New Feature Components: Website Affects Versions: Cpp-M1

Re: Karma for Raymond

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
+1 On 8/1/06, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd like to propose we make Raymond a committer. Normally, I would list some of the things a candidate has done for the community but with Raymond he has done so much I wouldn't know where to begin. So, here's my +1 form making Raymond a commi

Re: Karma for Raymond

2006-08-01 Thread Rick
+1 from me. Pete Robbins wrote: +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Karma for Brent

2006-08-01 Thread Rick
+1 Besides working in general on DAS, Brent helped out a lot with DAS issues with getting Big Bank running for M1. Kevin Williams wrote: I would like to recommend Brent for committership. Brent has made invaluable contributions to the DAS and has been a consistent provider of quality patches s

Tuscany weekly IRC chat log (July-31-2006)

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
Here's the IRC log from yesterdays scheduled chat. The main things talked about were what happened with Tuscany at OSCON (the talk was ok, not so many at the BOF). That Tuscany has a new website was mentioned (go have a look!). Most of the rest of chat was about modularity and releases related t

Re: JBI Component for Tuscany

2006-08-01 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Hi Ant, I can help you wherever you might need an additional hand (in testing, samples, documentation, website updates etc.). - Venkat On 8/1/06, ant elder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've had a look at this code now I think we should be able to get it going on the new code base, so I'll star

RE: problem running supplychain sample from the command line

2006-08-01 Thread Meeraj Kunnumpurath
Thanks, I have managed reproduce the problem reported by Jeremy, java.lang.IllegalStateException: Scope not running [6] at org.apache.tuscany.core.component.scope.AbstractScopeContainer.checkInit (AbstractScopeContainer.java:106) at org.apache.tuscany.core.component.scope.ModuleSco

RE: problem running supplychain sample from the command line

2006-08-01 Thread Meeraj Kunnumpurath
Ta -Original Message- From: Rick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 August 2006 13:19 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: Re: problem running supplychain sample from the command line Hello, Not an expert on this particular demo, but I just checked in a bat file "run.bat" that seems t

Re: problem running supplychain sample from the command line

2006-08-01 Thread Rick
Hello, Not an expert on this particular demo, but I just checked in a bat file "run.bat" that seems to run it for me. This is the output I see: E:\dev\tuscany\java\samples\sca\supplychain> Main thread Thread[main,5,main] Work thread Thread[pool-1-thread-1,5,main] - Order, submitted, f

Re: JBI Component for Tuscany

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
I've had a look at this code now I think we should be able to get it going on the new code base, so I'll start trying to port it over. Thanks for the offer to help, I'm going to need that, and from anyone else who's interested if this binding is to become a part of Tuscany, not only help with th

RE: problem running supplychain sample from the command line

2006-08-01 Thread Meeraj Kunnumpurath
Hi, The readme on the supply chain example seems to be a bit out-of-date. Could someone pls direct me to how to run the sample? Ta Meeraj -Original Message- From: Meeraj Kunnumpurath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 July 2006 18:35 To: tuscany-dev@ws.apache.org Subject: RE: problem r

Re: Axis2 Test generator

2006-08-01 Thread ant elder
Hi David, yes this sounds like something that could be useful. How do you plan on generating the dummy data? There's already some code for this that Venkat has done for creating empty XML instances from a WSDL, see TUSCANY-419, hopefully you'll be able to reuse and enhance that code. ...ant On

[jira] Commented: (TUSCANY-587) WSDL XSD is read incorrectly.

2006-08-01 Thread Geoff Winn (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-587?page=comments#action_12424809 ] Geoff Winn commented on TUSCANY-587: I'm working on this. > WSDL XSD is read incorrectly. > - > > Key: TUSCANY-58

[jira] Created: (TUSCANY-587) WSDL XSD is read incorrectly.

2006-08-01 Thread Geoff Winn (JIRA)
WSDL XSD is read incorrectly. - Key: TUSCANY-587 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TUSCANY-587 Project: Tuscany Issue Type: Bug Components: C++ SDO Affects Versions: Cpp-current Envi

Re: Can't do multiple import.sdo's

2006-08-01 Thread kelvin goodson
Hi Elizabeth, do you have a test case for this and I'll take a look. Regards, Kelvin. On 31/07/06, Elizabeth DeLouise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A problem I came across (not sure if it's on my end or Tuscany's), was that I could not have more than one tag in my sca.module file. If is used

Re: SCA Tools

2006-08-01 Thread Venkata Krishnan
Jim :-))).. Please help me understand the scope of "not required". If something is not required then why have it in the first place? Are these things no longer relevant to the current Tuscany-Java? Thanks - Venkat On 8/1/06, Jim Marino <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Jul 31, 2006, at 10:16

Re: Karma for Brent

2006-08-01 Thread Pete Robbins
+1 -- Pete

Re: Karma for Raymond

2006-08-01 Thread Pete Robbins
+1 -- Pete