On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote:
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
Fifteen minutes after the last poll closed, Obama was declared the
winner. Which means -- connecting the dots -- the media withheld
information it had, lied about
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Jim Ellwanger train...@ellwanger.tvwrote:
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
Fifteen minutes after the last poll closed, Obama was declared the
winner. Which means --
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From: Kevin M.
If a journalist knows something and elects to not report it, I have a
serious problem with that. Barring national security or some other
compromising situation, a journalist reports what he/she knows.
I refer this question to the Canadians on our
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Brad Beam b.b...@suddenlink.net wrote:
- Original Message - From: Kevin M.
If a journalist knows something and elects to not report it, I have a
serious problem with that. Barring national security or some other
compromising situation, a journalist
On 8 November 2012 07:45, Jon Delfin jondel...@gmail.com wrote:
I refer this question to the Canadians on our list:
Am I correct in remembering that start times for national election
coverage
on the Canadian networks are staggered, based on the closing times of the
polls in each time
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 4:23 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
So, I don't think your premise (that Fox called some states faster than
others) is correct, nor do I think that any TV news operation delayed
reporting actual votes in order to increase voter turnout, nor do I think
that any TV
Since I was at work until 8pm Pacific, I had NBC's internet feed on (which
was primarily commercial-free coverage from the mothership). They kept
going back to Chuck Todd and his TV monitor, one of the features of which
allowed him to move various states into either Obama's or Romney's totals.
Here's the problem with that logic: of the nine states that could loosely
be called toss-ups, only Iowa and Nevada had poll closing times after 9 PM
ET. Even if they were calling everything as early as is possible, most of
the states that mattered were done by then.
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 2:24
Again, while this is an interesting discussion, I believe it is based on a
false premise. I don't think there is any evidence that any news operation
new the actual vote in any state but held back reporting until after the
polls closed. The vote counts are not released in any state until the polls
Sadly, I was not watching this live, nor in my quick scanning this morning
have I found the full 45 minute video. But quite simply, Karl Rove refused
to believe the news-gathering reporting of the network that employed him
and demanded, on the air, that the network stop everything and retract
Karl Rove, disputing reality? I'm shocked. Shocked, I say.Doug FieldsTampa, FL
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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Karl Rove Takes Fox News Channel Hostage For 45
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From: Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, November 07, 2012 10:26 am
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 7:26 AM, Joe Hass hassgoc...@gmail.com wrote:
Sadly, I was not watching this live, nor in my quick scanning this morning
have I found the full 45 minute video. But quite simply, Karl Rove refused
to believe the news-gathering reporting of the network that employed him
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:11:47 AM UTC-5, PGage wrote:
I particularly like how the blond woman does not understand why it makes
sense to move the people in make the projections at a network away from the
the analysts and commentators who are talking about the results on the air
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 11:11 AM, PGage pga...@gmail.com wrote:
I particularly like how the blond woman does not understand why it makes
sense to move the people in make the projections at a network away from the
the analysts and commentators who are talking about the results on the air
(every
I've just recently started watching Fox News -- because a couple of FB
friends I hardly know -- and their friends -- were posting crap, and
I wondered where they were getting it from. So, I had the good
fortune of watching the drama unfold live on the network last night.
Since I'm still a novice
One of the best conservative-hosted talk shows is Tim Conway Jr's show on
KFI. Last night while driving home (OK, while driving to a bar), I caught a
bit of his election coverage. One comment he made that stuck out was that
FoxNews was tracking Obama much farther ahead than the other cable
One non-FoxNews observation
At the conclusion of last night's live Colbert Report, one couldn't help
but notice all the balloons above his head ready to drop if Romney had been
proclaimed the winner. I'll bet the show's PA's spent hours blowing those
things up and the stagehands took time rigging
On Nov 7, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
At the conclusion of last night's live Colbert Report, one couldn't help but
notice all the balloons above his head ready to drop if Romney had been
proclaimed the winner. I'll bet the show's PA's spent hours blowing those
things up and the
From Talking Points Memo here are the highlights from Fox News last night:
http://mediacast.realgravity.com/sharing/abd3f6b0-4082-012f-2a8c-12313d00d151/90b9229a-29d2-4930-a8cf-10691d53b175.html
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:00 AM, M-D November mdnovem...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012 11:11:47 AM UTC-5, PGage wrote:
I particularly like how the blond woman does not understand why it makes
sense to move the people in make the projections at a network away from the
the
What annoys me is that I can't shake the feeling the outcome of the
election was known well in advance of when it was announced, but the press
won't disclose such truths for fear of accusations of election tampering
(i.e.-telling the public on the west coast that there is no point to
voting).
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 9:05 PM, Kevin M. drunkbastar...@gmail.com wrote:
What annoys me is that I can't shake the feeling the outcome of the
election was known well in advance of when it was announced, but the press
won't disclose such truths for fear of accusations of election tampering
On Nov 7, 2012, at 9:05 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
Fifteen minutes after the last poll closed, Obama was declared the winner.
Which means -- connecting the dots -- the media withheld information it had,
lied about information it didn't have, and refused to accept information
despite verification.
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