[TV orNotTV] Re: Ex-Chief weighs in on the J! hosting situation

['Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV]

He's the only one. She's awful, especially in her interactions with the 
contestants and her timing in cueing them to pick the next answer. Jennings 
is light years better.

I get the feeling the staff doesn't think much of her, either, especially 
given the outfits the stylists put her into.

--Dave Sikula

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 1:56:27 PM UTC-8 David Bruggeman wrote:

> TL:DR, he's come around on Mayim.
>
>
> https://www.primetimer.com/barnhart/mayim-bialik-is-the-future-of-jeopardy?mc_cid=3f186cba62_eid=2ecf66baff
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[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Severance

[Kevin M.]

It’s a sort of Office Space meets The Prisoner with a hint of Ernie Kovacs
and some elevator music tossed in for good measure

On the streaming Apple TV thingy
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Marketer: Time for Bud to Shoot the Horse?

[Mark Jeffries]

Least liked by certain people who want their Oscar winners a little more
mainstream, including an HBO host who referred to "The Shape of Water" as
"the fish-f--king movie" and didn't care for "Nomadland" at all.  The
director of "Green Book" is a white guy best known before then as making
the movie where semen played a major role.

Mark Jeffries
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 3:58 PM PGage  wrote:

> Several things I take issue with here:
>
> 1. There seems to be an assumption in the article that SB commercials were
> tremendously creative and interesting this year, but somehow almost none of
> the ones on my TV were.
>
> 2. I’m not convinced Clydesdales read “White Male”, and even less
> convinced that there are enough TV viewers who might think that to
> significantly impact views if the ad.
>
> 3. I had to look it up in case you were referencing “Green Book”. When did
> Nomadland become one of the least liked Best Films of recent years?
>
> On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 at 10:25 AM Mark Jeffries 
> wrote:
>
>> The latest Budweiser Clydesdale (and lab) ad that aired on the Super Bowl
>> had a much lower score on USA Today's Ad Meter and a more scientific survey
>> than many of the Bud ads of the past--one marketer says that perhaps the
>> Clydesdales should  be put out to pasture after over 90 years because in
>> today's multicultural society the horses are "are full representation of
>> [a] white male persona":
>>
>>
>> https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/budweiser-clydesdale-horse-dog-retire/?utm_source=postup_medium=email_campaign=Adweek_Daily_220217054711_id=771453
>>
>> Of course, it could be because the spot was directed by the
>> (coincidentally) female Asian director responsible for one of the least
>> liked Oscar Best Picture winners of recent years and the least liked MCU
>> movie of all time.
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Re: [TV orNotTV] Marketer: Time for Bud to Shoot the Horse?

[PGage]

Several things I take issue with here:

1. There seems to be an assumption in the article that SB commercials were
tremendously creative and interesting this year, but somehow almost none of
the ones on my TV were.

2. I’m not convinced Clydesdales read “White Male”, and even less convinced
that there are enough TV viewers who might think that to significantly
impact views if the ad.

3. I had to look it up in case you were referencing “Green Book”. When did
Nomadland become one of the least liked Best Films of recent years?

On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 at 10:25 AM Mark Jeffries  wrote:

> The latest Budweiser Clydesdale (and lab) ad that aired on the Super Bowl
> had a much lower score on USA Today's Ad Meter and a more scientific survey
> than many of the Bud ads of the past--one marketer says that perhaps the
> Clydesdales should  be put out to pasture after over 90 years because in
> today's multicultural society the horses are "are full representation of
> [a] white male persona":
>
>
> https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/budweiser-clydesdale-horse-dog-retire/?utm_source=postup_medium=email_campaign=Adweek_Daily_220217054711_id=771453
>
> Of course, it could be because the spot was directed by the
> (coincidentally) female Asian director responsible for one of the least
> liked Oscar Best Picture winners of recent years and the least liked MCU
> movie of all time.
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[TV orNotTV] Ex-Chief weighs in on the J! hosting situation

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

TL:DR, he's come around on Mayim.
https://www.primetimer.com/barnhart/mayim-bialik-is-the-future-of-jeopardy?mc_cid=3f186cba62_eid=2ecf66baff
David

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NCIS branching outside the US

['David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV]

 Now that you mention postal inspectors, I couldn't remember how the actors on 
their show (creatively titled "The Inspectors" and notably mocked by John 
Oliver) announced themselves before taking down a perp.
Thankfully the Last Week Tonight episode includes a relevant clip - (2:30 mark) 
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCjG78McFxQ
David


On Friday, February 18, 2022, 09:28:52 AM PST, M-D November 
 wrote:  
 
 I feel like lately they've had to amend that to "NCIS! Federal agents!" 
because...yeah, people aren't going to know WTF NCIS is.  I mean, if someone 
shouted "USPIS!" at me, I wouldn't know they're the Postal Inspection Service 
until AFTER they arrested me. :)

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:01:52 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

My mother loved NCIS and I used to catch snippets of it while visiting her. I 
used to laugh when they would approach a suspect, show their badges, and shout 
“NCIS!” and the suspect would know what that meant.

On Feb 16, 2022, at 12:59 PM, M-D November  wrote:



Apparently even CBS wasn't confident in the name when NCIS got spun off from 
JAG, as when the show premiered, it was titled "Navy NCIS"; the "Navy" got 
dropped because...well, it's redundant and stupid.



On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:46:26 AM UTC-5 Jim Ellwanger wrote:

I would bet that the VAST majority of Americans also had no idea what "NCIS" 
stood for (or even that it existed) until the original TV series debuted.




On Feb 16, 2022, at 7:44 AM, Doug Eastick  wrote:


Canadian here. I had no idea what NCIS stood for until recently.    I then 
learned it was something to do with military law enforcement.   Which then made 
me wonder "how much crime can there be WITHIN the military that they can cover 
so many stories".  I know the latter half of that question is irrelevant 
because it's television, but the first question still drove me to google and 
other searching to learn about the scope of NCIS is larger than just within the 
military.
Naval Criminal Investigative Service - Wikipedia
On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:58 AM Paul Murray  wrote:

Yet another NCIS spinoff to ignore. My only idle curiosity is what accents the 
actors will have. By logic, they should be American, except for any locals they 
work with.

As one who has regularly watched the original, I tried the LA and NO spinoffs 
and quickly abandoned them. LA in particular seemed so tenuously connected to 
the navy as to be laughable; it's just another "unconventional law enforcement 
team" show.

I still watch the original, although I'm currently weeks behind in streaming 
it. I think it's the TV equivalent of comfort food for me at this point.

On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:51:15 PM UTC-5 Doug Fields wrote:

The show is​ based inside the Dept. of Defense (and inside the Navy).  But that 
shouldn't prohibit shows set outside the US, in the same manner that the Navy 
has bases located in foreign countries all around the world.  Anywhere there is 
a concentration of Navy or Marine Corps personnel, there will also be field 
offices of most of the support organizations that serve those branches of the 
military, definitely including the NCIS.

Doug FieldsTampa, FL
From: 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:41 PM
To: TVorNotTV 
Subject: [TV orNotTV] NCIS branching outside the US I always took this show to 
be based inside the Defense Dept, if not the Navy specifically... and yet Shane 
Brennan, Aussie by birth, is working on a Sydney-based entry in the franchise, 
which he intends to film there with actors therefrom, but also show on 
Paramount+... the streamer also announced a "SEAL Team" feature film...
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/ncis-sydney-seal-team-movie-coming-to-paramount-1235093708/
 (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ottawa Police Arresting Protesters

[Brad Beam]

The CBC has a live feed going on YouTube.

https://youtu.be/yVVPIxL8Vg0

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 18, 2022, at 13:12, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> 
> The few who know about Xumo (which may include Comcast Xfinity X! 
> subscribers) may know that they stream CBC News Network.
> 
> Mark Jeffries
> Saints Spotlight Editor
> spotligh...@gmail.com
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:19 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:
>> For those not fully aware of the police advancement this morning, hundreds 
>> of police are making their moves onto the protesters that have occupied 
>> Ottawa the past few weeks.   Some key organisers were arrested last night.
>> 
>> CBC News Network is live on the street.   Unsure what is streamable in USA
>> CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News
>> 
>> CTV News Network live on the street.  Unsure what is streamable in USA
>> CTV News | Canada News | Top Stories
>> 
>> Some protestors have brought their children to the police lines as well.   
>> Most humans on twitter that I follow are outraged on that.
>> 
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[TV orNotTV] SemiNoTV: John Cena in Movie Based on New Yorker Piece

[Mark Jeffries]

Yes, the New Yorker.

However, the 1990 piece, "Coyote v. Acme," featured an attorney pleading 
the case for Mr. Wile E. Coyote to receive damages for faulty products from 
the Acme Corp.  Cena will play the attorney for Acme (and the former boss 
of the attorney representing Mr. Coyote) in this combined live 
action/animated film from Warner Bros. (of course)--production hasn't 
started:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/john-cena-coyote-vs-acme-warner-bros-1235095035/

The original piece:

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/1990/02/26/coyote-v-acme

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Marketer: Time for Bud to Shoot the Horse?

[twolper]

Budweiser’s flagship beer hasn’t been their biggest seller in many years (Bud 
Light is) and it’s taken a back seat in their marketing. The Clydesdale 
commercial used to appear in the first ad break and in Sunday’s game it didn’t 
appear until the third quarter. Maybe AB-Inbev can do what they did in the 
nineties and feature a Clydesdale wearing a baseball cap backwards and riding a 
skateboard.

> On Feb 18, 2022, at 1:25 PM, Mark Jeffries  wrote:
> 
> The latest Budweiser Clydesdale (and lab) ad that aired on the Super Bowl 
> had a much lower score on USA Today's Ad Meter and a more scientific survey 
> than many of the Bud ads of the past--one marketer says that perhaps the 
> Clydesdales should  be put out to pasture after over 90 years because in 
> today's multicultural society the horses are "are full representation of [a] 
> white male persona":
> 
> https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/budweiser-clydesdale-horse-dog-retire/?utm_source=postup_medium=email_campaign=Adweek_Daily_220217054711_id=771453
> 
> Of course, it could be because the spot was directed by the (coincidentally) 
> female Asian director responsible for one of the least liked Oscar Best 
> Picture winners of recent years and the least liked MCU movie of all time.
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[TV orNotTV] Marketer: Time for Bud to Shoot the Horse?

[Mark Jeffries]

The latest Budweiser Clydesdale (and lab) ad that aired on the Super Bowl 
had a much lower score on USA Today's Ad Meter and a more scientific survey 
than many of the Bud ads of the past--one marketer says that perhaps the 
Clydesdales should  be put out to pasture after over 90 years because in 
today's multicultural society the horses are "are full representation of 
[a] white male persona":

https://www.adweek.com/brand-marketing/budweiser-clydesdale-horse-dog-retire/?utm_source=postup_medium=email_campaign=Adweek_Daily_220217054711_id=771453

Of course, it could be because the spot was directed by the 
(coincidentally) female Asian director responsible for one of the least 
liked Oscar Best Picture winners of recent years and the least liked MCU 
movie of all time.

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Re: [TV orNotTV] Ottawa Police Arresting Protesters

[Mark Jeffries]

The few who know about Xumo (which may include Comcast Xfinity X!
subscribers) may know that they stream CBC News Network.

Mark Jeffries
Saints Spotlight Editor
spotligh...@gmail.com


On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:19 AM Doug Eastick  wrote:

> For those not fully aware of the police advancement this morning, hundreds
> of police are making their moves onto the protesters that have occupied
> Ottawa the past few weeks.   Some key organisers were arrested last night.
>
> CBC News Network is live on the street.   Unsure what is streamable in USA
> CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News
> 
>
> CTV News Network live on the street.  Unsure what is streamable in USA
> CTV News | Canada News | Top Stories 
>
> Some protestors have brought their children to the police lines as well.
>  Most humans on twitter that I follow are outraged on that.
>
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[TV orNotTV] Re: John Williams back in "Star Wars" universe

[Diner]

Williams did an interview with the New York Times last week in which he 
stated that he expects his upcoming scores for "The Fabelmans" (misspelled 
in the Variety piece) and "Indiana Jones" to be his final scores.  “I don’t 
particularly want to do films anymore,” he said. “Six months of life at my 
age is a long time.” 
Although there is this line:
*Spielberg, for his part, said that Williams had promised to continue 
scoring his films indefinitely. “I feel pretty secure,” he said.*
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/08/arts/music/john-williams-hollywood-film.html

He'll be playing in my town with the Philadelphia Orchestra in April. I 
really should get around to buying a ticket...

On Friday, February 18, 2022 at 11:05:18 AM UTC-5 Bob Jersey wrote:

> The Oscar-winner just recorded musical sigs for Disney+'s upcoming *Obi-Wan 
> Kenobi*, slated for late May... cripes, he's pretty-effing busy for a 
> 90-yr-old!
>
>
> https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/john-williams-obi-wan-kenobi-theme-star-wars-series-1235185228/
>  (link)
>
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Re: [TV orNotTV] NCIS branching outside the US

[M-D November]

I feel like lately they've had to amend that to "NCIS! Federal agents!" 
because...yeah, people aren't going to know WTF NCIS is.  I mean, if 
someone shouted "USPIS!" at me, I wouldn't know they're the Postal 
Inspection Service until AFTER they arrested me. :)

On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 2:01:52 PM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

> My mother loved NCIS and I used to catch snippets of it while visiting 
> her. I used to laugh when they would approach a suspect, show their badges, 
> and shout “NCIS!” and the suspect would know what that meant.
>
> On Feb 16, 2022, at 12:59 PM, M-D November  wrote:
>
> Apparently even CBS wasn't confident in the name when NCIS got spun off 
> from JAG, as when the show premiered, it was titled "Navy NCIS"; the "Navy" 
> got dropped because...well, it's redundant and stupid.
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, February 16, 2022 at 10:46:26 AM UTC-5 Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>
>> I would bet that the VAST majority of Americans also had no idea what 
>> "NCIS" stood for (or even that it existed) until the original TV series 
>> debuted.
>>
>>
>> On Feb 16, 2022, at 7:44 AM, Doug Eastick  wrote:
>>
>> Canadian here. I had no idea what NCIS stood for until recently.I 
>> then learned it was something to do with military law enforcement.   Which 
>> then made me wonder "how much crime can there be WITHIN the military that 
>> they can cover so many stories".  I know the latter half of that question 
>> is irrelevant because it's television, but the first question still drove 
>> me to google and other searching to learn about the scope of NCIS is larger 
>> than just within the military.
>>
>> Naval Criminal Investigative Service - Wikipedia 
>> 
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 9:58 AM Paul Murray  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Yet another NCIS spinoff to ignore. My only idle curiosity is what 
>>> accents the actors will have. By logic, they should be American, except for 
>>> any locals they work with.
>>>
>>> As one who has regularly watched the original, I tried the LA and NO 
>>> spinoffs and quickly abandoned them. LA in particular seemed so tenuously 
>>> connected to the navy as to be laughable; it's just another "unconventional 
>>> law enforcement team" show.
>>>
>>> I still watch the original, although I'm currently weeks behind in 
>>> streaming it. I think it's the TV equivalent of comfort food for me at this 
>>> point.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, February 15, 2022 at 10:51:15 PM UTC-5 Doug Fields wrote:
>>>
 The show *is*​ based inside the Dept. of Defense (and inside the 
 Navy).  But that shouldn't prohibit shows set outside the US, in the same 
 manner that the Navy has bases located in foreign countries all around the 
 world.  Anywhere there is a concentration of Navy or Marine Corps 
 personnel, there will also be field offices of most of the support 
 organizations that serve those branches of the military, definitely 
 including the NCIS.

 Doug Fields
 Tampa, FL
 --
 *From:* 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV 
 *Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 5:41 PM
 *To:* TVorNotTV 
 *Subject:* [TV orNotTV] NCIS branching outside the US 
  
 I always took this show to be based inside the Defense Dept, if not the 
 Navy specifically... and yet Shane Brennan, Aussie by birth, is working on 
 a Sydney-based entry in the franchise, which he intends to film there with 
 actors therefrom, but also show on Paramount+... the streamer also 
 announced a "SEAL Team" feature film... 


 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/ncis-sydney-seal-team-movie-coming-to-paramount-1235093708/
  (link)

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[TV orNotTV] Ottawa Police Arresting Protesters

[Doug Eastick]

For those not fully aware of the police advancement this morning, hundreds
of police are making their moves onto the protesters that have occupied
Ottawa the past few weeks.   Some key organisers were arrested last night.

CBC News Network is live on the street.   Unsure what is streamable in USA
CBC News - Latest Canada, World, Entertainment and Business News


CTV News Network live on the street.  Unsure what is streamable in USA
CTV News | Canada News | Top Stories 

Some protestors have brought their children to the police lines as well.
 Most humans on twitter that I follow are outraged on that.

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[TV orNotTV] The Oscars finally have a COVID policy

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

"Presenters and performers at next month’s Academy Awards will not be 
required to show proof of vaccination, but nominees and guests will.

People in the latter group also must have *two *negative PCR tests, 
Deadline has confirmed."

The NYT, who broke the story, added that "audience members in the sections 
of the Dolby Theatre nearest to the stage won’t be required to wear a mask 
but will be seated farther apart from one another than usual. Those in the 
mezzanine, however, must wear a face covering."

https://deadline.com/2022/02/oscars-covid-vaccine-testing-masks-1234956447/
 (link)

B

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[TV orNotTV] Simon Baker's back

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

A new deal has the "Mentalist" and *The Devil Wears Prada* star developing 
scripted projects under MGM with an international focus, that he could 
direct and/or star in...

https://deadline.com/2022/02/simon-baker-first-look-deal-mgm-international-television-productions-1234935512/
 (link)

B

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[TV orNotTV] UK TV: BBC renews "MasterChef" shows till 2028

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

And from 2024, they'll be produced in a Birmingham studio backed by the 
creator of "Peaky Blinders."

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/masterchef-bbc-birmingham-renewal-1235185723/
 (link)

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[TV orNotTV] Re: HBO orders 10 episodes of 'Game of Thrones' prequel

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

They've wrapped filming on "HotD," and Mr Martin has seen the rough cuts, 
"and I’m loving them."

As to a premiere date? He adds, "Who knows? You’ll know when we do."

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/house-of-the-dragon-wraps-filming-season-1-1235185841/
 (link)  
   B

Steve Timko, Oct 31st 2019:

>
> LOS ANGELES (AP) - HBO is green-lighting a new "Game of Thrones" prequel 
> after reportedly canceling another that starred Naomi Watts.
>
> The cable channel said Tuesday that it's given a 10-episode order to 
> "House of the Dragon," set 300 years before the original series that ended 
> its eight-season run in May.
>
> The prequel is based on George R.R. Martin's "Fire & Blood," HBO said.
>
> The series was announced by HBO programming president Casey Bloys during a 
> presentation for HBO Max, the streaming service launching in May 2020 . A 
> spinoff of HBO megahit "Game of Thrones" would be a key attraction in the 
> increasingly crowded streaming marketplace.
>
> HBO declined comment on reports Tuesday that it had dropped another "Game 
> of Thrones" prequel starring Naomi Watts that was set thousands of years 
> before the original.
>

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[TV orNotTV] John Williams back in "Star Wars" universe

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

The Oscar-winner just recorded musical sigs for Disney+'s upcoming *Obi-Wan 
Kenobi*, slated for late May... cripes, he's pretty-effing busy for a 
90-yr-old!

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/john-williams-obi-wan-kenobi-theme-star-wars-series-1235185228/
 (link)

B

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[TV orNotTV] Former "9-1-1" costar sues Disney over firing

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Rockmond Dunbar fully expected *der Maus* to grant him religious/medical 
exemption from COVID vaccination, but got nothing, even as other 
(non-Black) cast and crew were getting them...

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/911-rockmond-dunbar-sues-covid-firing-disney-fox-1235185005/
 (link)

B

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[TV orNotTV] Re: Jen Garner doing something other than pitch bank cards

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

The words "cult classic" fell out of Colbert's trap whilst talking up the 
return with Scott... who noted that it happened "because people found it"...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/adam-scott-party-down-revival-starz-ratings-1235096103/
 (link)  
   B

Moi, Jan 31st:

> She'll join the coming revival of Starz' "Party Down" (last seen in 2010!) 
> as a film producer *(ahem)* involved with Adam Scott's character...
>
>
> https://deadline.com/2022/01/party-down-jennifer-garner-tyrel-jackson-williams-zoe-chao-james-marsden-cast-revival-starz-1234922327/
>  (link)
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[TV orNotTV] Re: Matthew Weiner resurfacing

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Landgraf told the "TV's Top 5" podder at THR they're sacking the project, 
which the article apparently blames on the 2017 allegation of sexual 
harassment by one of his "Mad Men" writers... that writer and her 
familiar-to-many-of-you colleague, upon hearing of Weiner's deal with FX, 
wrote an op-ed for THR about how to avoid such situations in the future...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/matthew-weiner-dramedy-scrapped-fx-4057053/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/marti-noxon-how-tv-industry-can-better-protect-writers-next-toxic-showrunner-guest-column-1304789/
 (links)

B

Moi, July 9th 2020:

> He's writing a potential series for FX, which V described as a "mystery 
> dramedy." 
>
>
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/mad-men-matthew-weiner-fx-series-1234699347/ 
> (link)
>

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[TV orNotTV] Netflix' all-new Leatherface reviewed

['Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV]

Much like with *Halloween*, they've gone back to the original, replete with 
the years-later emotionally-scarred female survivor (recast as the original 
actress passed in 2014)... Today I Learned™ one John Larroquette played the 
narrator back then, and returns for this round...

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-reviews/netflix-texas-chainsaw-massacre-1235095495/
 (link)

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Re: [TV orNotTV] NotTV: Disney to brand planned communities

[PGage]

A former work colleague of mine left CA to go live in and work for
Celebration, I want to say in early or mid 90s. He became like their
Activities Director (kind of like Julie on the Love Boat). I lost direct
touch with him, but gathered from mutual acquaintances that at some point
Disney was no longer involved.

On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 3:59 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> They did, in 2004, and the buyer, Lexin Capital, let the complex go
> practically to sh*t... a 2016 WSJ article, per Wiki
>  (link),
> reported they were sued to pay for millions in repairs.  Still, a Google
> Street View casing of the area shows the area in relatively good shape.
>
> B
>
> PGage, to Kevin M and moi, Feb 16th:
>
>> Disney developed a community in Florida several decades ago -
>> “Celebration”, but it was maybe “Disney-Lite”, and *they may have
>> divested it by now*.
>>
>> This frankly sounds like a nightmare to me, based on my experience with
>> Disney culture at DisneyLand, which back in the 70s and 80s at least was
>> oppressive and controlling in their search for conformity in a way that
>> would make Stepford blush…
>>
>> For the uninitiated, this was Walt’s original vision of EPCOT, a planned
>>> community where people live, work, shop, and commute… the Disney way. Walt
>>> Disney World was intended to be more than a theme park and hotel location…
>>> Walt wanted to redesign contemporary American life. Rumor has it he hated
>>> Florida, but settled on that state because it had the least expensive yet
>>> still desirable real estate. But he died and nearly every aspect of what he
>>> envisioned was shelved.
>>>
>>> I don’t know that a Disney branded (licensed) community in this day and
>>> age will succeed, as the Disney brand itself is muddied and unfocused.
>>>
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