Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL clears up Week 15

[daniel anderson]

Fox was planning to air Cowboys-Bills in 89% of the nation, with 
Eagles-Seahawks going to 10%. By moving the latter to ABC, Fox can pump 
Cowboys-Bills to the whole nation. (and you notice, the Cardinals used 
their blackout two weeks ago, knowing this could happen.

I read that Fox left Cowboys-Bills unprotected.
On Sunday, December 3, 2023 at 11:43:58 AM UTC-5 Tom Wolper wrote:

> From a podcast interview with the NFL’s VP of Broadcast Planning: flexing 
> is done to move playoff relevant games from 1 PM to prime time. So it’s not 
> a simple matter of looking for games that will draw more viewers. The 
> Chiefs and Patriots (Chiefs in, Patriots out) is less relevant than Eagles 
> and Seahawks (Eagles in, Seahawks contending).
>
> And the 4/4:30 national games get more viewers (30 million) than Sunday 
> night (28 million) so the networks won’t agree to flex them to prime time.
>
> On Sat, Dec 2, 2023 at 3:12 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> All times East: That's the 14th through 18th of December, when three 
>> games are played Saturday, all principally on NFL Network, but the league 
>> has to pick from five contests to determine those three... they took 
>> Vikings-Bengals (1pm), Steelers-Colts (4:30), and Broncos-Lions (8:15), 
>> leaving Falcons-Panthers and Bears-Browns to the Sunday networks, where Fox 
>> took both for 1 o'clock... there was also a flexing involving Monday night, 
>> a first in the league, where ESPN dealt Chiefs-Patriots to Fox (also at 1) 
>> for Eagles-Seahawks...
>>
>> https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Week-15-Flex-Scheduling---Eagles-Seahawks-to-Monday-Night;-NFL-Network-Tripleheader-on-Saturday.aspx
>>  (link)
>>
>> B
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/94941039-1bc5-40df-babb-efb41cfe66fan%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/b78ccf07-bfe8-494b-8ed4-c83178d76c05n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] So long, Arleen Sorkin

[daniel anderson]

DOOL was on my schedule along with Sale Of The Century and The Price Is 
Right. Arleen was so funny, one time i saw her as a clown...my grandmother 
thought it was funny.

On Sunday, August 27, 2023 at 11:21:08 AM UTC-4 Doug Eastick wrote:

> In my market in the 80s DOOL was aired 4-5pm on a local channel.A lot 
> of friends watched it after school. Thus, I know who Calliope and Eugene 
> are.  Yes they were definitely comedic on that show.
>
>
>
> /Doug 
> eas...@mcd.on.ca
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2023, 10:17 a.m. Kevin M.  wrote:
>
>> In the 1980s, the writing on Days of Our Lives was hit and miss, but the 
>> comedic pairing of Arleen Sorkin’s Calliope with John DeLance’s Eugene 
>> (much of which could only have been improvised) was always worth watching. 
>>
>> And on the Batman animated series, she WAS Harley Quinn. Her voice and 
>> attitude became the character. 
>>
>> On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 5:56 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The original voice of Harley Quinn in animated DC series, Calliope Jones 
>>> on "Days of Our Lives," spouse of writer (not actor) / "Modern Family" 
>>> co-creator Christopher Lloyd,  even did some writing of her own, such as 
>>> for "Tiny Toon Adventures"... I wonder how old this picture James Gunn 
>>> posted of her on IG is... 67.
>>>
>>> https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/arleen-sorkin-dead-days-of-our-lives-harley-quinn-voice-1235575529/
>>>  (link)
>>> https://www.instagram.com/p/CwbVz5GP7MD/ (pic)
>>> Her inspiration, driving to work, was this Frank Loesser gem...
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RX-eFkGdJNM (Vivian Blaine, ladies and 
>>> germs...)
>>> B
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>> an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/9ceeae28-765c-49ab-917e-968727866b21n%40googlegroups.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>> -- 
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>>
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKgmY4DRLEnZMaT55j2TJVHryULMewzbM8JcSaj81hrNR_x-pg%40mail.gmail.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/ee9a0760-e4dc-4699-a37f-0d08ab5962c3n%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: WDIV Detroit 75th anniversary special

[daniel anderson]

Both Mort Crim and George Kell *made the station*.   The station had lost 
credibility in the 1960's due to dictates from the station's conservative 
owners who also owned the Detroit News, e.g., no replaying Huntley-Brinkley 
coverage of Vietnam, downplaying the 1967 riots, and refusing to play 
Saturday Night Live. Crim and Kell got the station back on track. Crim was 
the best lead anchor the station ever had and Kell was the best Tigers TV 
play-by-play guy.

On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 7:53:30 PM UTC-4 Diner wrote:

> Thanks for this. 
> I remember Mort Crim fondly from his days in Philadelphia, so seeing this 
> story about the station where he spent most of his career is interesting to 
> me.
>
>
> On Saturday, November 5, 2022 at 1:53:57 PM UTC-4 Paul Murray wrote:
>
>> NBC affiliate WDIV (originally WWJ-TV) became Detroit's first TV station 
>> 75 years ago, and aired this documentary special about itself last night.
>>
>> Notably, it is not all nostalgia viewed through rose-colored glasses. The 
>> station lost credibility in the 1960's due to dictates from the station's 
>> conservative owners who also owned the Detroit News, e.g., no replaying 
>> Huntley-Brinkley coverage of Vietnam, downplaying the 1967 riots, and 
>> refusing to play Saturday Night Live. In the 1970s, their 6 pm newscast was 
>> being beaten by Little Rascals reruns, with ABC affiliate WXYZ-TV 
>> dominating. They went through six lead anchors in nine years trying to get 
>> out of the cellar.
>>
>> While they had been grandfathered in to the FCC ruling that newspapers 
>> and tv stations could no longer share ownership, they swapped stations with 
>> the Washington Post (WTOP) in 1978, and the new management eventually 
>> staged a serious turnaround (with assists from a surging NBC and the 
>> Detroit Tigers).
>>
>> Obviously this is primarily of interest to those who know Detroit, but 
>> anyone interested in TV of decades ago may appreciate at least some of it.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T4p6EwAO1k
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/bb680bfd-ccb9-452d-bb0c-6f87e34cbb1en%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Did Fox luck out with Giants-Titans before Monarch?

[daniel anderson]

Fox almost had to delay Monarch for the Giants-Titans game, but Big Blue 
went for two and the win.. then the Titans got into field goal range and 
missed at the gun.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/9bbd9de8-c279-4fde-aa0e-1bcdf0408668n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC wants to bring back some classic game shows

[daniel anderson]

I remember watching the 1990 version with Patrick Wayne, since it aired on 
the NBC affiliate out of Greenville SC.

But i have seen Wink Martindale host it too, from reruns on GSN. 
Martindale, by far was the better host...

The Joker's Wild was on the CBS affiliate in 1990, hosted by Pat Finn, but 
for the same reasons, Jack Barry was the better host

On Sunday, April 11, 2021 at 1:59:29 PM UTC-4 Jim Ellwanger wrote:

> I do like "Tic Tac Dough," but I realize that might just be childhood 
> nostalgia. "Tic Tac Dough" and "The Joker's Wild" were the primary 
> trivia-based game shows in the late '70s/early '80s, until "Jeopardy!" came 
> along in 1984.
>
> I didn't realize NBC held the format rights to "Tic Tac Dough," but I 
> assume that goes way back to its origins as one of NBC's prime-time 
> big-money quiz shows in the 1950s.
>
>
> On Apr 11, 2021, at 10:47 AM, PGage  wrote:
>
> Interesting. For me, Concentration: Top 5 all time Game Show. Tic Tac 
> Dough: Bottom 5.
>
> On Sun, 11 Apr 2021 at 10:19 AM Diner  wrote:
>
>> According to their 2021 format sales catalog, they're trying to bring 
>> back "Concentration" and "Tic Tac Dough."
>> https://twitter.com/buzzerblog/status/1381113042361069568
>>
>> But as noted in this follow-up tweet, there's nothing definite yet, 
>> they're just shopping the idea around.
>> https://twitter.com/buzzerblog/status/1381260819833425927
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/90f7c0b2-9c28-4e85-be2c-dc807ccd3ae4n%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
> -- 
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkYK3SrcM-%2B-YFgoZcrTkV-ugwKLynaBOZv6EMrLyzQsd%2BQ%40mail.gmail.com
>  
> 
> .
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a9926034-609e-497a-8eeb-156a0f166d91n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Aaron Rodgers

[daniel anderson]

Something i noticed on Password then, was that Lee Vines would whisper the 
passwords for the home viewers. Back then(1966), my grandmother's viewing 
consisted of Let's Make a Deal, Password, The Doctors(soap opera), Another 
World and You Don't Say. And the legendary announcers then- Jay Stewart, 
Lee Vines, Mel Brandt, Bill Wolff and John Harlan.

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-4 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> And BUZZR airs them every weekday at 2 p.m. ET with some more slight 
> cutting (the first commercial break cut out so that they go right from the 
> intros to the game--it is often noticeable), Lee Vines reintroducing Ludden 
> after the station break).
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotl...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:16 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure what the initial source of that “College Bowl” video comes 
>> from.
>>
>> But (speaking of Allen Ludden), something comparable from the same year, 
>> the 1966-67 season of “Password” also exists in surprisingly good 
>> condition. Goodson-Todman kept them (slightly edited) for the purpose of 
>> selling them as syndicated reruns.
>>
>> Those “Password” episodes have run repeatedly on Game Show Network over 
>> the years, so there are plenty of examples on YouTube: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrakkUZtUdM
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 6:43 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> First off, that video is in *really good* quality for 1966.
>>
>> Second, I'd wager the It's Academic production budget is comparable to 
>> the College Bowl production budget, *maybe* adjusted for inflation.
>>
>> Earle is certainly capable, if squarely of the era.
>>
>> And the 1966 game would have shook me.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 5:55:34 PM PDT, Jim Ellwanger <
>> trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> If you want to see how it matches up to “It’s Academic,” there are a fair 
>> number of episodes of the original “College Bowl” on YouTube - this is the 
>> one I could find that’s in the best condition (this is from after Allen 
>> Ludden left the show in favor of “Password” and was succeeded by Robert 
>> Earle): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWtcG_1jhJw
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 5:48 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I know College Bowl was a non-televised thing when I was in college.
>>
>> The DC area has televised a high-school level equivalent, It's Academic, 
>> forever.  Between that and my own college level experience, I don't think 
>> it makes the greatest television.  Hopefully Peyton is less Nationwide 
>> Peyton and more like he seems to be on his ESPN show.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 3:02:14 PM PDT, Brad Beam <
>> b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> *From:* tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Diner
>>
>> *>*But I'll give him this: On the football-players-hosting-game-shows 
>> scale, he ranks above Rolf Benirschke.
>>  
>>
>> Speaking of, looks like there’ll be a new Allen Ludden in town: Betty 
>> White will soon be moving to Peytonville….
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2020/11/college-bowl-peyton-manning-nbc-1234621247/
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1650688289.99320.1617756480814%40mail.yahoo.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CCFEE816-D456-4D3F-927C-C30099A56DF1%40ellwanger.tv
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/280729433.91963.1617759805864%40mail.yahoo.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Aaron Rodgers

[daniel anderson]

Speaking of announcers, i assume that Lee Vines was a CBS staff guy, much 
like Don Pardo was at NBC. Jack Clark did Password too, but i know him 
better as announcer for "Wheel of Fortune." Always was great with loads of 
copy he had to read each day. Was Vines ever considered by Goodson for 
"Price is Right" before they went with Johnny Olsen?

On Wednesday, April 7, 2021 at 10:23:58 AM UTC-4 Mark Jeffries wrote:

> And BUZZR airs them every weekday at 2 p.m. ET with some more slight 
> cutting (the first commercial break cut out so that they go right from the 
> intros to the game--it is often noticeable), Lee Vines reintroducing Ludden 
> after the station break).
>
> Mark Jeffries
> spotl...@gmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 9:16 PM Jim Ellwanger  wrote:
>
>> I’m not sure what the initial source of that “College Bowl” video comes 
>> from.
>>
>> But (speaking of Allen Ludden), something comparable from the same year, 
>> the 1966-67 season of “Password” also exists in surprisingly good 
>> condition. Goodson-Todman kept them (slightly edited) for the purpose of 
>> selling them as syndicated reruns.
>>
>> Those “Password” episodes have run repeatedly on Game Show Network over 
>> the years, so there are plenty of examples on YouTube: 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrakkUZtUdM
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 6:43 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> First off, that video is in *really good* quality for 1966.
>>
>> Second, I'd wager the It's Academic production budget is comparable to 
>> the College Bowl production budget, *maybe* adjusted for inflation.
>>
>> Earle is certainly capable, if squarely of the era.
>>
>> And the 1966 game would have shook me.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 5:55:34 PM PDT, Jim Ellwanger <
>> trai...@ellwanger.tv> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> If you want to see how it matches up to “It’s Academic,” there are a fair 
>> number of episodes of the original “College Bowl” on YouTube - this is the 
>> one I could find that’s in the best condition (this is from after Allen 
>> Ludden left the show in favor of “Password” and was succeeded by Robert 
>> Earle): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWtcG_1jhJw
>>
>>
>>
>> On Apr 6, 2021, at 5:48 PM, 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> I know College Bowl was a non-televised thing when I was in college.
>>
>> The DC area has televised a high-school level equivalent, It's Academic, 
>> forever.  Between that and my own college level experience, I don't think 
>> it makes the greatest television.  Hopefully Peyton is less Nationwide 
>> Peyton and more like he seems to be on his ESPN show.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 3:02:14 PM PDT, Brad Beam <
>> b.b...@suddenlink.net> wrote: 
>>
>>
>> *From:* tvor...@googlegroups.com [mailto:tvor...@googlegroups.com] *On 
>> Behalf Of *Diner
>>
>> *>*But I'll give him this: On the football-players-hosting-game-shows 
>> scale, he ranks above Rolf Benirschke.
>>  
>>
>> Speaking of, looks like there’ll be a new Allen Ludden in town: Betty 
>> White will soon be moving to Peytonville….
>>
>> https://deadline.com/2020/11/college-bowl-peyton-manning-nbc-1234621247/
>>  
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1650688289.99320.1617756480814%40mail.yahoo.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CCFEE816-D456-4D3F-927C-C30099A56DF1%40ellwanger.tv
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/280729433.91963.1617759805864%40mail.yahoo.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Quick NFL change

[daniel anderson]

HThat was a shock. Any reason why the change?

On Wed, Dec 23, 2020 at 8:20 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Carolina at Wa(r)shington remains on CBS, but moves to 4.05 east.
>
> https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/Week-16-schedule-change---.aspx (link)
>
> B
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/d25cbbad-8194-4950-b4ad-b81827dbe4ddn%40googlegroups.com
> 
> .
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAJazvjRVHuCVYficg-bTuU4Kb_JbXbdM55WyE7xqcoOFCedDDw%40mail.gmail.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: More NFL schedule changes (Dec 20th and 27th)

[daniel anderson]

I believe that the reason why CBS has Detroit at Tennessee is that   FOX 
had more sports events this weekend than technical capability to handle 
them. 

Surpsied to see Cowboys/Niners as the main early game for CBS..figured 
Patriots/Fish would have been. 

On Wednesday, December 16, 2020 at 11:11:29 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Detroit at Tennessee this coming Sunday switched to CBS, remains at 1pm 
> east.
>
> Now for next week:
> The two NFL Network games, not determined prior to the season, will be 
> Tampa Bay at Detroit (1pm east) and Miami at Las Vegas (8.15).
> An originally-TBD game with San Francisco at Arizona (where the Niners had 
> played relocated home games earlier) is nationally exclusive to Amazon 
> Prime (team markets will have OTA coverage, natch)
> Cleveland at the NY Jets, also originally-TBD, goes to CBS at 1pm.
> Cincinnati at Houston remains at 1, but switches to Fox.
> Chicago at Jacksonville also remains at 1, but switches to CBS.
> And the LA Rams at Seattle switches from CBS to Fox and 4.25.
>
>
> https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/NFL-announces-schedule-changes--.aspx
>  (link)
>
> B
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a73a5287-5164-4db3-bb3a-937e3212e08fn%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL schedule changes for Dec 20th

[daniel anderson]

Usually, I'll watch the Panthers game(i live in NC) and if it's a Fox DH,  
"America's Game of The Week."  This week, it's Broncos-Panthers and 
Saints-Eagles.  Of course, with the Broncos stinking up the joint this 
year, we get  Andrew Catalon and  James Lofton  rather than  Jim Nantz and  
Tony Romo.  

Fox is dipping into their CFB pool and using Joe Davis on the 
Falocns-Chargers game. It's only on in Atlanta, Los Angeles and San Diego. 
Is that common for a 7th crew telecast?
On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 11:04:09 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Sorry, Daniel, I don't determine what I'll watch in a given NFL week till 
> the day before the first game (after consulting 506sports [q.v.])  B
>
> daniel anderson, to moi, Dec 10th:
>
>> i gather from that you'll be watching Chiefs/Saints..almost for sure it 
>> will be   Nantz and Romo in the boothAs far as  Jets/Ramsmy guess 
>> is  Joe Davis  and whoever they can get for color.  
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/01005ef5-823b-49b5-b91b-d4d21e882e59n%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL schedule changes for Dec 20th

[daniel anderson]

i gather from that you'll be watching Chiefs/Saints..almost for sure it 
will be   Nantz and Romo in the boothAs far as  Jets/Ramsmy guess 
is  Joe Davis  and whoever they can get for color. 

On Thursday, December 10, 2020 at 10:01:55 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> The 9-3 Cleveland Browns at the 5-7 NY Giants (tied for first with the 
> Wa[r]shingtons) is now the Sunday night game on NBC.
>
> The 5-7 San Francisco 49ers at the 3-9 Dallas Cowboys goes back to Fox and 
> 1pm east.
>
> The 0-12 NY Jets at the 8-4 LA Rams, one of the matchups they wouldn't 
> schedule before the season, gets plugged in as a 4.05 east Fox regional 
> (which I can watch on my cabler via WNYW... but won't)
>
>
> https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/NFL-announces-Week-15-schedule-changes.aspx
>  (link)
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/9eb832fe-2a16-47ed-9f2a-d285f36e2c58n%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox considering dropping TNF

[daniel anderson]

Personally i don't understand the need to  protect the gate at high school 
and college games . 

On Wednesday, December 9, 2020 at 6:06:03 PM UTC-6 jedwa...@gmail.com wrote:

> Just to Adam's point about the possibility of Friday/Saturday games. There 
> is a law in the US that bans professional games from being broadcast on 
> Friday night and all day Saturday from the second Saturday in September to 
> the second Saturday of December. This was designed to protect the gate at 
> high school and college games. The law technically bans broadcasting a pro 
> game if the station is within 75 miles of a high school game (Friday) or 
> college game (Saturday). There are enough of both of those that this 
> effectively bans the practice nationwide.
>
> This is why the NFL doesn't start doing Saturday games until late 
> December. 
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 11:32 AM Adam Bowie  wrote:
>
>> I always found it amazing that the NFL somehow got networks to pay for 
>> Thursday Night Football, but then also sold it to digital outlets like 
>> Amazon, but then ALSO kept the rights on their own network. Talk about 
>> having your cake and eating it!
>>
>> I guess the reality with most of these sports bodies is that they're 
>> constantly crunching the numbers to see if and when they can do without the 
>> middleman and do their own streaming platform. But while sports remain 
>> vital to the business interests of the networks, leading them to overpay 
>> for the privilege, then they'll keep selling. At such point as the sports 
>> owners think they can make more money selling direct, then that'll happen. 
>>
>> For one perspective about how things might play out in the future, I 
>> would point you to the Premier League at the moment. In normal times, there 
>> are ten games per matchday (20 teams in the league), with UK TV showing 
>> five of them live. None of the five live games clash with any other game. 
>> Only the five non-live games take place at the same time - usually 3pm on a 
>> Saturday, the "traditional" kick off time. But in these Covid times when 
>> most grounds can have a maximum of 2,000 fans, the Premier League has gone 
>> to a system with all games being live on TV (rights shared by existing TV 
>> partners for no extra cash), and every game can be watched by a diligent 
>> fan with none clashing. Start with a Friday evening game, and then play 
>> from lunchtime through to evening on Saturday and Sunday, and you get 
>> through all ten fixtures. Theoretically that model could carry on in normal 
>> times and the Premier League would maximise its revenues by having more TV 
>> packages to sell. Obviously the UK doesn't have timezone issues, and the 
>> NFL has more teams and therefore games to play. But the NFL mostly steers 
>> clear of Fridays and Saturdays to avoid High School/College games, and I 
>> assume some more avaricious owners could ditch that and spread their games 
>> throughout the weekend if they thought they'd be more valuable.
>>
>> I suspect that even if audiences are dipping for sport, it actually 
>> becomes, at least in the short term, even more valuable. 
>>
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 4:16 PM Tom Wolper  wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 10:36 AM PGage  wrote:
>>>
>>> I would be delighted if they just got rid of Thursday Night Football 
 entirely.

 The article kind of buried the lead; the cost of broadcasting the NFL 
 is expected to go up 50-80%, which would be a combined total of  $4.5 to 
 $5.6 BILLION.

 The deplorable that own most NFL teams only think in terms not of 
 making a profit, but of continually increasing and maximizing their profit.

>>> Businesses exist to make a profit. If there is a problem with a 
>>> capitalist enterprise it is structural and the solution will be found in 
>>> regulatory change not hoping wealthy people have better judgment. If the 
>>> money is out there to be had they will be going after it.
>>>
>>> Thursday Night Football is the result of a failed business decision. The 
>>> NFL started its own media operation with the NFL Network (with its own 
>>> journalists which ties to another thread) and they intended to put the 
>>> channel on to cable systems at a premium price. The cable companies had no 
>>> enthusiasm to add them to basic service so the NFL decided to form an 
>>> exclusive weekly game for its network to strong-arm the cable companies. It 
>>> soon became clear that the tactic backfired and the game needed network 
>>> coverage so the NFL offered it up to the networks and made more money.
>>>
>>> And it turns out the networks can't make enough money from the Thursday 
>>> game to justify keeping it. The growth area in media is now in streaming 
>>> and media companies will drop overpriced content in order to free resources 
>>> up for streaming. Thursday Night Football doesn't exist because there was a 
>>> strong demand for it and no one will suffer if it 

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL: The next Steelers game, ICYMI...

[daniel anderson]

It's something to do with not upsetting DIRECTV, since Sunday Ticket need a 
minimum amount of games

Speaking of which, NFLN has 2 games in two weeks on Saturday... Have to 
figure that   Kevin Burkhardt and Daryl Johnston do the Panthers-Packers 
game, while either Rich Eisen or a Fox crew does the Bills-Broncos game

On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 12:58:36 PM UTC-6 djly...@gmail.com wrote:

> I'm wondering what the ratio is between affiliate managers who are annoyed 
> that only some stations are getting two games to ones that are annoyed 
> because they're going to have to blow out a bunch of local advertising time 
> to make room for an out-of-market football game.
>
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 9:19 AM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> JP calls BS... https://twitter.com/506sports/status/1334629717920636929 
>> (link)  
>>  B
>>
>> On Friday, December 4, 2020 at 10:04:32 AM UTC-5 PGage wrote:
>>
>>> My Comcast guide for the Bay Area shows 2:00-5:00 as “To Be Announced “ 
>>> which suggests there is some possibility the game will be shown nationwide.
>>>
>> -- 
>>
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>>
> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/753ea6db-e576-4045-a4d3-a5aa7c124dc7n%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>
>
> -- 
> David J. Lynch
> djl...@gmail.com
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/3026960d-58b7-4e7a-8d33-4df4ee460d6dn%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] NFL: The Steelers Ravens game is being moved from tomorrow evening to Sunday

[daniel anderson]

So, what happens if Buck or Nantz were to get COVID? At CBS my guess, given 
that he's Nantz's backup on golf, they'd would use  Andrew Catalon to work 
with Romo. At FOX? EitherChris Myers  or   Kevin Burkhardt  would work 
with   Aikman . 

On Friday, November 27, 2020 at 3:26:10 PM UTC-6 Brad Beam wrote:

> Moving along: Steelers-Ravens now Tuesday night (12/1, NBC) with 
> Baltimore’s Thursday (12/3) game against Dallas moved to next Monday (12/7, 
> Fox-NFLN) as the opener of the MNF doubleheader.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 27, 2020, at 14:00, PGage  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Great, thanks!
>
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 10:28 AM Jim Ellwanger  
> wrote:
>
>> Scott Hanson said yes on Twitter on Wednesday: 
>> https://twitter.com/ScottHanson/status/1331755756014751747
>>
>> Presumably that means his evil twin Andrew Siciliano will also be able to 
>> show it on the DirecTV equivalent.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 27, 2020, at 9:59 AM, PGage  wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone know if this game will be included in the RedZone coverage 
>> like any other Sunday day game? 
>>
>> My default assumption is that it will be. However not all Sunday games 
>> are included, for instance the London games. Probably the limit is temporal 
>> (they cover games between 10:00 am and 5:00 pm PT, the patented “SEVEN 
>> HOURS”) and he often explains that they are contractually obligated to get 
>> off the air by 5:00 pm, even when the afternoon (PT) games are not over. 
>> But I guess it’s possible the contract also limits them to games carried by 
>> CBS and Fox, and prohibits covering games on NBC.
>>
>> On Wed, 25 Nov 2020 at 1:19 PM Brad Beam  wrote:
>>
>>> NBC nationwide, Sunday at 10:15a PT.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Nov 25, 2020, at 13:53, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>>> tvor...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> A cross-flex to Fox is a real possibility... they have only five Sunday 
>>> games to CBS' six...
>>>
>>>
>>> B
>>>
>>> Tom Wolper, Nov 25:
>>>
 Players and coaches from the Baltimore Ravens have been testing 
 positive for COVID all this week so the NFL is postponing tomorrow's game 
 until Sunday. The Steelers beat writers I follow on Twitter have been 
 retweeting angry players. The team had its bye week shifted due to an 
 outbreak they weren't responsible for and they were looking to the 
 extended 
 gap between tomorrow and next Sunday. Now that's gone due to an outbreak 
 they aren't responsible for. Of course they can't complain about having 
 their season ruined because they are 10-0.


 https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-steelers-game-moved-from-thursday-to-sunday

>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>> an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/66a77cd3-ea8c-441f-89ff-448132ccd680n%40googlegroups.com
>>>  
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>> an email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1F4E1215-1BB1-498E-817D-D87F3B7E9629%40suddenlink.net
>>>  
>>> 
>>> .
>>>
>> -- 
>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>>
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKGtkY%2BoF_e%3DGY-KJwj6GfZ_ztdPD4c3YhCG9ico33eUUoJQeg%40mail.gmail.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com.
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/678A6DAA-7F5A-4E18-ACD0-90A0B6C5B109%40ellwanger.tv
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
> -- 
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>
> -- 
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
> "TVorNotTV" group.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NFL: The Steelers Ravens game is being moved from tomorrow evening to Sunday

[daniel anderson]

Got to give kudos to Chris Myers, who pinch hit for Curt due to COVID. He 
did a good job.

On Thursday, November 26, 2020 at 8:31:58 AM UTC-6 Bob Jersey wrote:

> Their intent all along was to have different crews do Thurs. and Sun.  
> Tirico, Dungy, and Tappen were on Bearss/Pack while Al, Cris and Michele 
> had Ravens/Steelers.
>
> Brad Beam, to Tom Wolper and moi, Nov 25:
>
>> NBC nationwide, Sunday at 10:15a PT.
>>
>>
>>
>  
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/ec60bc72-d95d-4e61-91bd-9eb747c6ec5en%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] nhl playoffs.

[daniel anderson]

Really enjoying all these OT games?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a739252e-a078-43d3-b57f-fc9a19f76b8co%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] An almost Heidi moment...

[daniel anderson]

 The NBC station in Las Vegas forgot to turn off their automation when the 
Golden Knights game went to overtime. Fortunately, the commercial was cut 
off just as quickly, before the winning goal was scored.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/fdd81e1d-0617-4de3-803b-29413d86fbe6o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Will the NFL use hubs?

[daniel anderson]

I wonder if the NFL would use hubs. The issue would be how to handle the
exclusive slot of NBC at 8:15 or 8:20(especially if mutpile games were to 
be played each day at a site.)

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/14f9bb0e-5e11-4b05-871a-5bbd251c1299o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Did your family stick with one network over the other?

[daniel anderson]

My grandmother was an NBC girl in the 60s- Not just with Chet and David, 
but the NBC daytime dramas then,  "Days of our Lives," "The Doctors" and 
"Another World."  And the space coverage in that era- she preferred Frank 
McGee over Cronkite. 

But i was an ABC watcher, their sports coverage, Peter Jennings, shows like 
"China Beach," "Life Goes On," "Twin Peaks," and "Homefront" were 
considered some of the best quality shows on the air. 

On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 8:23:24 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I was thinking- We watched ABC shows back then- we almost agreed on 
> everything then- with exceptions being daytime game shows on NBC, and maybe 
> a few others.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/d4bb5c30-a176-45ad-b421-e94bb60e6ea0o%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[daniel anderson]

I remember that Directtv used the backhaul feeds on the AFC games that day 
until President Bush was done speaking- believe they waited till Dan Rather 
did the wrap up before switching back to  the regular network feeds. Up 
till Obama did his address about Newtown, it was the last time a NFL game 
was preempted for breaking news s far as i know.
On Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 9:30:15 AM UTC-4, Tom Wolper wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 1:17 PM stannc > 
> wrote:
>
>> G-E-C is also the pleasant sound that you hear when you try to shoplift 
>> at Lowe’s Home Improvement.
>>
>
> I'll take your word for that.
>
> Some years ago I listened to all the extant 300+ episodes of Dragnet from 
> NBC Radio. The recording always ended with the NBC chimes and once an 
> announcer said, "Three chimes mean good times."
>
> Going back to the question that started this thread, I have been reading 
> along and trying to remember what I was watching when a major event 
> happened. Not the event but the show and I can't think of any. I think 
> network interruptions are rarer in the cable news era and especially during 
> prime time since newsworthy stuff tends to happen during business hours. I 
> wasn't watching TV when the 9/11 attacks happened and I wasn't watching 
> when the Challenger exploded. The closest I can think of is I was sitting 
> in Heinz Field at a Steelers game in 2001 when they stopped the game and 
> President Bush came on the jumbotron to announce he was ordering US forces 
> to Afghanistan.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/e1c99d72-c64d-4873-9315-6e3b23431786o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[daniel anderson]

I still remember the Newtown school shooting, because i was watching *Days 
of Our Lives*(soap) when the so called "chimes of doom" sounded. Same thing 
with the Virginia Tech shooting too. I've always wondered how long those 
chimes have been used anyway? 
On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 8:13:47 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I was watching the World Series in 1989 when the Earthquake happened. I 
> can still remember hearing Al Michaels say "I'll tell you what, we're 
> having an earth-" before the feed cut out. I remember ABC airing something 
> else for a few minutes, before Ted Koppel came on form Washington(where he 
> was hosting Nightline).
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/616f2167-b1b2-4937-814a-e1010ac145cdo%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[daniel anderson]

Speaking of jFK, i've read about that the soap was As The World Turns, 
because Helen Wagner once said that she didn't know that something was 
wrong until she left the set and Charles Paul who was playing the organ 
told her that Kennedy had been shot. I'm guessing he heard Cronkite's 
announcements, but the cast didn't.

On Wednesday, July 22, 2020 at 8:13:47 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I was watching the World Series in 1989 when the Earthquake happened. I 
> can still remember hearing Al Michaels say "I'll tell you what, we're 
> having an earth-" before the feed cut out. I remember ABC airing something 
> else for a few minutes, before Ted Koppel came on form Washington(where he 
> was hosting Nightline).
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/13048c76-a2f0-451d-8db5-3a0c3adee192o%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[daniel anderson]

Because he was killed. Likely because she had voted for him in 60.

I was heartbroken myself when 9/11 took place, because it disrupted our 
normal way of living.
On Monday, July 27, 2020 at 11:15:28 AM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 8:08 AM daniel anderson  > wrote:
>
>> My grandmother was watching some soap opera when JFK was shot. When 
>> Cronkite announced JFK's death, she was heartbroken. 
>>
>
> Heartbroken because he was shot, or heartbroken because they interrupted 
> her stories? My grandma loved her stories.
>
>
>
>> On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 11:39:46 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>>>
>>> Perhaps my earliest memory like this was watching Bobby Kennedy get 
>>> murdered. I was precociously interested in politics, and my mother took me 
>>> to hear all of the Democratic nominees for president that year. She was a 
>>> Eugene McCarthy girl, and the first we saw but then we went to see Bobby 
>>> speak, a week or two later and I was mesmerized. I could decode his speech 
>>> enough to get his opposition to the war, and support for racial and 
>>> economic justice, but his charisma really got through to me, and the crowd 
>>> at the college campus where my dad taught was going wild. I got the chance 
>>> to shake his hand, and declared myself a Bobby man to my mother on the way 
>>> home, as we had a satisfying debate. She of course was old enough to 
>>> remember the old RFK, who had been a “Red-Baiter” and his brother’s son of 
>>> a bitch, and she never trusted him.
>>>
>>> The night of the California primary she let me stay up to watch the 
>>> results. I remember staying awake long enough to see that Bobby had won, 
>>> then fell asleep during his speech. I was awakened shortly after by the 
>>> sound of my mother’s screams and then crying, saying “not again” over and 
>>> over, as he was shot in the kitchen of the Ambassador hotel. I was 
>>> heartbroken and inconsolable.
>>>
>>> I am just old enough to remember where I was when his brother was shot, 
>>> but we heard that announcement live on the radio, not TV, on the way to 
>>> taking me to the doctor. My mother pulling over to the side of the San 
>>> Diego freeway to cry, and my grandmother in the back seat screaming 
>>> (extremely uncharacteristically, as she was very refined): “God Dammit! God 
>>> Dammit! I knew he shouldn’t have gone down there!”
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:13 PM daniel anderson  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I was watching the World Series in 1989 when the Earthquake happened. I 
>>>> can still remember hearing Al Michaels say "I'll tell you what, we're 
>>>> having an earth-" before the feed cut out. I remember ABC airing something 
>>>> else for a few minutes, before Ted Koppel came on form Washington(where he 
>>>> was hosting Nightline).
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google 
>>>> Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send 
>>>> an email to tvor...@googlegroups.com.
>>>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/cfc7388a-734b-46d7-8501-4395409f05ceo%40googlegroups.com
>>>>  
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/cfc7388a-734b-46d7-8501-4395409f05ceo%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>>>> .
>>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a2794511-549b-4ce3-935f-06b1e7004009o%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a2794511-549b-4ce3-935f-06b1e7004009o%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
> -- 
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/77c8d407-6b5b-4dc8-8696-bde3692e1083o%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[daniel anderson]

My grandmother was watching some soap opera when JFK was shot. When 
Cronkite announced JFK's death, she was heartbroken. 

On Sunday, July 26, 2020 at 11:39:46 AM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>
> Perhaps my earliest memory like this was watching Bobby Kennedy get 
> murdered. I was precociously interested in politics, and my mother took me 
> to hear all of the Democratic nominees for president that year. She was a 
> Eugene McCarthy girl, and the first we saw but then we went to see Bobby 
> speak, a week or two later and I was mesmerized. I could decode his speech 
> enough to get his opposition to the war, and support for racial and 
> economic justice, but his charisma really got through to me, and the crowd 
> at the college campus where my dad taught was going wild. I got the chance 
> to shake his hand, and declared myself a Bobby man to my mother on the way 
> home, as we had a satisfying debate. She of course was old enough to 
> remember the old RFK, who had been a “Red-Baiter” and his brother’s son of 
> a bitch, and she never trusted him.
>
> The night of the California primary she let me stay up to watch the 
> results. I remember staying awake long enough to see that Bobby had won, 
> then fell asleep during his speech. I was awakened shortly after by the 
> sound of my mother’s screams and then crying, saying “not again” over and 
> over, as he was shot in the kitchen of the Ambassador hotel. I was 
> heartbroken and inconsolable.
>
> I am just old enough to remember where I was when his brother was shot, 
> but we heard that announcement live on the radio, not TV, on the way to 
> taking me to the doctor. My mother pulling over to the side of the San 
> Diego freeway to cry, and my grandmother in the back seat screaming 
> (extremely uncharacteristically, as she was very refined): “God Dammit! God 
> Dammit! I knew he shouldn’t have gone down there!”
>
> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 5:13 PM daniel anderson  > wrote:
>
>> I was watching the World Series in 1989 when the Earthquake happened. I 
>> can still remember hearing Al Michaels say "I'll tell you what, we're 
>> having an earth-" before the feed cut out. I remember ABC airing something 
>> else for a few minutes, before Ted Koppel came on form Washington(where he 
>> was hosting Nightline).
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/cfc7388a-734b-46d7-8501-4395409f05ceo%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/cfc7388a-734b-46d7-8501-4395409f05ceo%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
> -- 
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a2794511-549b-4ce3-935f-06b1e7004009o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] What show were you watching when a major news event happened?

[daniel anderson]

I was watching the World Series in 1989 when the Earthquake happened. I can 
still remember hearing Al Michaels say "I'll tell you what, we're having an 
earth-" before the feed cut out. I remember ABC airing something else for a 
few minutes, before Ted Koppel came on form Washington(where he was hosting 
Nightline).

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/cfc7388a-734b-46d7-8501-4395409f05ceo%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: SportsTV: A Torturous Broadcasting Hypothetical for CBS

[daniel anderson]

i was wondering who CBS would get to replace Nantz(who by the way, in my 
opinion is golf's best anchor) on the NFL that week. Greg Gumbel? 

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 11:44:41 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>
> So, last year for the first time the final round of the Masters was played 
> on split tees (getting ahead of bad weather). First group went off around 
> 7:30, the leaders in the final group around 9:30. According to the linked 
> article below they were expected to finish around 2:00 (couldn’t find 
> actual finish time).  the Masters settles due with sudden death extra 
> holes, so seems unlikely even with a tie they would go past 4:00. So looks 
> like they could just repeat this in November and CBS could still carry 
> their late NFL game with little problem (except finding a replacement for 
> Mr. Nantz, much as Fox has to do when NFL bumps up against World Series.
>
>
> https://www.sbnation.com/golf/2019/4/13/18309204/masters-sunday-tv-schedule-final-round-tee-times-weather-forecast
>
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 5:57 PM daniel anderson  > wrote:
>
>> If read the rules right, WCBS would have to show Dolphins/Jets in it's 
>> entirety, because of contractual obligations. But the Masters is a pretty 
>> big event, so, maybe they would delay that game and  Chiefs/Raiders.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:58:38 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
>>>
>>> Over at The Athletic, Richard Deitsch interviewed Jim Nantz about The 
>>> Masters not being held this weekend (I can't tell if it's behind the 
>>> paywall or not):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://theathletic.com/1735297/2020/04/09/jim-nantz-reflects-on-a-missed-masters-weekend/
>>>
>>> Near the end, Deitsch notes that if the rescheduled dates hold (November 
>>> 12-15), that drops the tournament smack dab into the middle of the NFL 
>>> season. As CBS's number one play-by-play guy, where would Nantz be?
>>>
>>> “I don’t think there’s any doubt that I will be anywhere other than 
>>> Augusta National.”
>>>
>>> While I don't doubt Nantz, here is the *MUCH* bigger broadcasting 
>>> problem for CBS:
>>>
>>> Traditionally CBS goes on the air Masters Sunday at 2:30 PM ET. The 
>>> NFL's regularly scheduled game windows on Sunday start at 1:00 PM ET and 
>>> 4:05/4:25 PM ET.
>>>
>>> The NFL may be the biggest financial player in American sports, but The 
>>> Masters is by a country mile the most prestigeous. CBS and Augusta National 
>>> Golf Club have run on a year-to-year contract since 1956, allowing ANGC to 
>>> have a level of control on the broadcast that the NFL *wishes* it has.
>>>
>>> If the world is at a point in November when both of these events can 
>>> happen, what the hell is CBS gonna do?
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c8c24ead-1ab1-4a8d-ab4f-d7dc1ef7716b%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c8c24ead-1ab1-4a8d-ab4f-d7dc1ef7716b%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
> -- 
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/a7d0d2d7-63c7-4286-90d6-3ec1d394aeb2o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Tom Bergeron Out At DWTS

[daniel anderson]

I wonder if this paves the way for Tom to do game shows again?

On Monday, July 13, 2020 at 8:19:48 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
>
> I'm not a DWTS fan, but I'm a huge Bergeron fan, and this sucks big time.
>
> https://twitter.com/Tom_Bergeron/status/1282815740731510784?s=19
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/59b653eb-1467-4301-9a90-f13b3400a1e8o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Staff announcers?

[daniel anderson]

I do wonder if networks still use live announcers for like when there is a 
bulletin, etc.?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c19064fc-8ed7-49f6-904b-7f967ff55fb8o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Question about NFL telecasts

[daniel anderson]

So i have this question, which i noticed when i had Sunday Ticket which is 
how do the networks decide which games to go to when a game ends?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/aa86626f-e3d0-4c82-bcb7-048e1784cbceo%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Hugh Downs, Longtime Host of '20/20' and the 'Today' Show, Dies at 99

[daniel anderson]

I wonder what Norm felt when he saw the soaps* The Doctors* and *Another 
World* in Living Color, but not his own show? 

On Friday, July 3, 2020 at 11:49:16 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
> Norm Blumenthal, the show's producer (and sole rebus creator for the 
> entire run), had the advantage of running a small portion of the network 
> that no one paid attention to and had fought off every attempt to go to 
> color at the network whose slogan became "The Full Color Network" until the 
> bosses put their feet down.  He still refused to show the rebuses in color, 
> because he claimed that seeing colors would make the puzzles too easy.  
> When Lin Bolen (the inspiration for Diana Christiansen in "Network") became 
> head of daytime, her attempts to move NBC's game shows into the 70s met on 
> deaf ears with Blumenthal and he kicked her out of Studio 3H during 
> taping.  Her revenge was having NBC sign a licensing deal with syndicator 
> Jim Victory (with Goodson-Todman producing) that took Blumenthal's 
> "Concentration" off the air in early 1973 and lost him a job of almost 15 
> years.  The syndicated version began that fall and ran five years from LA, 
> with Jack Narz hosting and an Edd Kalehoff synth-heavy score replacing the 
> organ music.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> Saints Spotlight Editor
> spotl...@gmail.com 
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 9:35 AM Jim Ellwanger  > wrote:
>
>> Trivia note: "Concentration" was the last NBC show to switch to color 
>> full-time.
>>
>> But it was already a color show by Christmas 1968 -- this appears to be a 
>> kinescope of a color broadcast.
>>
>>
>> On Jul 3, 2020, at 12:11 AM, JW > wrote:
>>
>> > But I will always remember him most fondly as the MC on Concentration. 
>>
>> The 1968 Christmas episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TttxuMzlKNs
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/CAKSNnOFOyfeMy1wGXC%3Di%3DpvfeO-LShh22Q7e8%3DGtEgxzr-o2DQ%40mail.gmail.com
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/D494F981-2174-4B28-B7B1-6273F194A6B4%40ellwanger.tv
>>  
>> 
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/427ffea0-fd08-4bce-8b7e-703d93192c37o%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Question about NHL....

[daniel anderson]

I remember Windsor would get Red Wings games pretty regularly on HNIC if 
the Leafs weren't on.

Kind of miss the CBC of old with the scoreboard clock being used on the top 
right-hand corner, rather than the bottom

On Tuesday, June 23, 2020 at 4:28:24 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> For example let's say CBC is airing two games(pre 2015)- Detroit at 
> Edmonton is for British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, the territories, 
> and the Windsor area, while Montreal at Colorado is for everywhere else. 
> Now, people in Detroit who have CBC would get the Detroit at Edmonton game 
> too, even though it's on FSN Detroit with Ken Daniels and Mickey Remond at 
> the same time. Is there a rule where CBC telecasts are/were exempted from 
> the blackouts then?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/9f1f484f-806e-4c2e-9fb1-281a8380bd4co%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Question about NHL....

[daniel anderson]

For example let's say CBC is airing two games(pre 2015)- Detroit at 
Edmonton is for British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, the territories, 
and the Windsor area, while Montreal at Colorado is for everywhere else. 
Now, people in Detroit who have CBC would get the Detroit at Edmonton game 
too, even though it's on FSN Detroit with Ken Daniels and Mickey Remond at 
the same time. Is there a rule where CBC telecasts are/were exempted from 
the blackouts then?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/ef28ccf8-a2c9-46e5-86d2-9b8f0124d6bdo%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Stephanopoulos pushed to seek post-Alex J! job

[daniel anderson]

I have to agree with your assessment. People don't tune into a game show to 
see the host. Price is Right has done well with Drew Carey,  but people 
don't tune in to see him, they tune in to see the contestants win.  Same 
thing with Let's Make a Deal; people don't tune in to see Wayne Brady, they 
tune in to see the contestants win(and on both, sometimes they win big). 
ABC did the Pyramid  revival just right, with a host who stays pretty much 
out of the way, like Dick Clark or Bill Cullen did.

On Friday, May 15, 2020 at 10:06:04 AM UTC-4, Tom Wolper wrote:
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 1:18 AM 'Dave Sikula' via TVorNotTV <
> tvor...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> The impression I got of Alex (who seemed to like me; YMMV) during the Q 
>> and A stuff with the audience was that, if he was asked a question he liked 
>> (something he hadn't been asked a lot or about his interests, charity work, 
>> etc.), he was personable and charming. If he was asked something he'd been 
>> asked a million times ("Do you really know all the answers?"), he could be 
>> something of a dick. 
>>
>> KO's not a bad choice, but I'd think he's too polarizing. Snuffleupagus 
>> seems like too much of a lightweight, and I find Cooper to be just 
>> bland--and polarizing (and also someone who'd probably rather not leave New 
>> York). I'd expect to either see Ken Jennings or a woman.(If this were 
>> thirty years ago, I'd go with someone like Linda Ellerbee,)
>>
>
> Anybody from politics or news would be too polarizing. For all we think of 
> Olbermann's positives, there is a substantial number of people who would 
> choose not to watch or immediately turn off the show if they saw him host. 
> He also has a reputation for not sticking in one job for too long. And the 
> problem with any high profile host is that you don't want people to tune 
> just to watch the host. Alex never distracts from the game. Choosing a high 
> profile host who already has another job means paying top dollar and having 
> a host who always has going back to the old job in the back of their mind.
>
> In one of the many Jeopardy! articles I have read someone pointed out that 
> Alex's best quality comes from how he acts at the end of the show. Of the 
> three contestants, two people who have been through a process to show how 
> good they are at playing the game have to go home. A lack of compassion at 
> that moment or any condescension would be a host's undoing.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/57a7f7f5-4eaa-42c6-8d6f-b0be47d8b528%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: SportsTV: A Torturous Broadcasting Hypothetical for CBS

[daniel anderson]

I forgot Phoenix and Buffalo, since they have a CBS game too.

On Saturday, May 9, 2020 at 9:16:43 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
>
> With everyone's combined wisdom (and this was an *awesome* thread, by the 
> way), here's my new blind guess:
>
> ANGC would shift everything back with an aim for a 3:30 PM ET finish. If 
> The Masters ran past 4:00, the six NFL home markets (Buffalo, Phoenix, 
> Denver, Las Vegas, New York, and Miami) would peel off to take their 
> appropriate games. CBS Sports Network and Masters.com would then simulcast 
> the end of CBS's coverage.
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2020, 19:57 daniel anderson  > wrote:
>
>> If read the rules right, WCBS would have to show Dolphins/Jets in it's 
>> entirety, because of contractual obligations. But the Masters is a pretty 
>> big event, so, maybe they would delay that game and  Chiefs/Raiders.
>>
>> On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:58:38 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
>>>
>>> Over at The Athletic, Richard Deitsch interviewed Jim Nantz about The 
>>> Masters not being held this weekend (I can't tell if it's behind the 
>>> paywall or not):
>>>
>>>
>>> https://theathletic.com/1735297/2020/04/09/jim-nantz-reflects-on-a-missed-masters-weekend/
>>>
>>> Near the end, Deitsch notes that if the rescheduled dates hold (November 
>>> 12-15), that drops the tournament smack dab into the middle of the NFL 
>>> season. As CBS's number one play-by-play guy, where would Nantz be?
>>>
>>> “I don’t think there’s any doubt that I will be anywhere other than 
>>> Augusta National.”
>>>
>>> While I don't doubt Nantz, here is the *MUCH* bigger broadcasting 
>>> problem for CBS:
>>>
>>> Traditionally CBS goes on the air Masters Sunday at 2:30 PM ET. The 
>>> NFL's regularly scheduled game windows on Sunday start at 1:00 PM ET and 
>>> 4:05/4:25 PM ET.
>>>
>>> The NFL may be the biggest financial player in American sports, but The 
>>> Masters is by a country mile the most prestigeous. CBS and Augusta National 
>>> Golf Club have run on a year-to-year contract since 1956, allowing ANGC to 
>>> have a level of control on the broadcast that the NFL *wishes* it has.
>>>
>>> If the world is at a point in November when both of these events can 
>>> happen, what the hell is CBS gonna do?
>>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c8c24ead-1ab1-4a8d-ab4f-d7dc1ef7716b%40googlegroups.com
>>  
>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c8c24ead-1ab1-4a8d-ab4f-d7dc1ef7716b%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1312d1a5-0612-402f-ac39-d83ab71144d5%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: SportsTV: A Torturous Broadcasting Hypothetical for CBS

[daniel anderson]

FOX has same issue with US Open and Redskins/Cardinals as well. My guess: 
FS1 for final round, with FOX broadcast simulcasting after assigned game 
ends. But in Washington D.C. and Phoenix, the US Open would air on both to 
start, then switch exclusively to FS1 when Redskins/Cardinal;s begins.

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:58:38 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
>
> Over at The Athletic, Richard Deitsch interviewed Jim Nantz about The 
> Masters not being held this weekend (I can't tell if it's behind the 
> paywall or not):
>
>
> https://theathletic.com/1735297/2020/04/09/jim-nantz-reflects-on-a-missed-masters-weekend/
>
> Near the end, Deitsch notes that if the rescheduled dates hold (November 
> 12-15), that drops the tournament smack dab into the middle of the NFL 
> season. As CBS's number one play-by-play guy, where would Nantz be?
>
> “I don’t think there’s any doubt that I will be anywhere other than 
> Augusta National.”
>
> While I don't doubt Nantz, here is the *MUCH* bigger broadcasting problem 
> for CBS:
>
> Traditionally CBS goes on the air Masters Sunday at 2:30 PM ET. The NFL's 
> regularly scheduled game windows on Sunday start at 1:00 PM ET and 
> 4:05/4:25 PM ET.
>
> The NFL may be the biggest financial player in American sports, but The 
> Masters is by a country mile the most prestigeous. CBS and Augusta National 
> Golf Club have run on a year-to-year contract since 1956, allowing ANGC to 
> have a level of control on the broadcast that the NFL *wishes* it has.
>
> If the world is at a point in November when both of these events can 
> happen, what the hell is CBS gonna do?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/8c1f2446-ca94-4745-8251-c2dbe5449c55%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: SportsTV: A Torturous Broadcasting Hypothetical for CBS

[daniel anderson]

If read the rules right, WCBS would have to show Dolphins/Jets in it's 
entirety, because of contractual obligations. But the Masters is a pretty 
big event, so, maybe they would delay that game and  Chiefs/Raiders.

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:58:38 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
>
> Over at The Athletic, Richard Deitsch interviewed Jim Nantz about The 
> Masters not being held this weekend (I can't tell if it's behind the 
> paywall or not):
>
>
> https://theathletic.com/1735297/2020/04/09/jim-nantz-reflects-on-a-missed-masters-weekend/
>
> Near the end, Deitsch notes that if the rescheduled dates hold (November 
> 12-15), that drops the tournament smack dab into the middle of the NFL 
> season. As CBS's number one play-by-play guy, where would Nantz be?
>
> “I don’t think there’s any doubt that I will be anywhere other than 
> Augusta National.”
>
> While I don't doubt Nantz, here is the *MUCH* bigger broadcasting problem 
> for CBS:
>
> Traditionally CBS goes on the air Masters Sunday at 2:30 PM ET. The NFL's 
> regularly scheduled game windows on Sunday start at 1:00 PM ET and 
> 4:05/4:25 PM ET.
>
> The NFL may be the biggest financial player in American sports, but The 
> Masters is by a country mile the most prestigeous. CBS and Augusta National 
> Golf Club have run on a year-to-year contract since 1956, allowing ANGC to 
> have a level of control on the broadcast that the NFL *wishes* it has.
>
> If the world is at a point in November when both of these events can 
> happen, what the hell is CBS gonna do?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/c8c24ead-1ab1-4a8d-ab4f-d7dc1ef7716b%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] J! to replay "GOAT" tourney

[daniel anderson]

Johnny is the oldest current announcer currently working- but Don Morrow, 
who announced for "Sale of the Century" in the late 80s is still around, at 
93 years old. That;s amazing.

On Saturday, May 2, 2020 at 12:04:49 AM UTC-4, Mark Jeffries wrote:
>
> And tonight was "Wheel"'s premature season finale,  ending with the week 
> without an audience (obvious when the winning contestant's family got their 
> usual top-of-the-bonus-road showing standing in front of a flat instead of 
> sitting in the audience.  And officially this was Harry Friedman's last day 
> as showrunner of both shows, as he hands the keys over to Mike Richards:
>
>
> https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/jeopardy-wheel-of-fortune-executive-producer-harry-friedman-exits-sony-pictures-television-1234595091/
>
> Besides how to get back in production and respect the pandemic, Richards 
> is inheriting from Friedman Alex Trebek's health problems and the possible 
> imminent retirement of "Wheel"'s hosts (made clear by Pat Sajak's time in 
> the hospital this season), meaning he's probably going to have to make 
> complete host changes within the next few years.  (And Johnny Gilbert is 
> 95--they may have to have him pre-record and have someone else do the 
> warmup.)  In addition, there are many who feel that "Wheel" needs more than 
> just a few format tweaks to bring the ratings back up (less of a problem 
> with "Jeopardy!", especially when they have a charismatic and 
> dominant champion).  The question is if Richards can make them without 
> pissing off the loyal, if aged, "Wheel" audience.
>
> Mark Jeffries
> Saints Spotlight Editor
> spotl...@gmail.com 
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 10:02 PM Jim Ellwanger  > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> > On Apr 21, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Joe Hass > 
>> wrote:
>> > 
>> > My (slightly related) question: have the fine folks at Sony Pictures 
>> hinted at what they'll do once they run out of new episodes? From a brief 
>> perusal of the Web, it sounds like they're good through the end of May.
>>
>> This rerun of the GOAT tournament is being plugged into a slot that was 
>> originally set for the annual Teachers’ Tournament, which is apparently now 
>> going to run in the two weeks starting on Memorial Day.
>>
>> So now, unless they change the schedule, the end of new shows for the 
>> season will be a week with regular contestants that was taped without a 
>> studio audience, airing June 8-12.
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> To view this discussion on the web visit 
>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/08062A97-8067-4226-B448-6612E4E45993%40ellwanger.tv
>> .
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/b0449d0b-2f90-4234-aed5-d0c8df291ddd%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] SportsTV: A Torturous Broadcasting Hypothetical for CBS

[daniel anderson]

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 3:35:28 PM UTC-4, Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Joe Hass > 
> wrote: 
> > 
> > Traditionally CBS goes on the air Masters Sunday at 2:30 PM ET. The 
> NFL's regularly scheduled game windows on Sunday start at 1:00 PM ET and 
> 4:05/4:25 PM ET. 
> > 
> > The NFL may be the biggest financial player in American sports, but The 
> Masters is by a country mile the most prestigeous. CBS and Augusta National 
> Golf Club have run on a year-to-year contract since 1956, allowing ANGC to 
> have a level of control on the broadcast that the NFL *wishes* it has. 
> > 
> > If the world is at a point in November when both of these events can 
> happen, what the hell is CBS gonna do? 
>
> During this pandemic, we've seen organizations rise to unprecedented 
> levels of flexibility and reasonableness. Assuming that continues into the 
> "cleanup" stage, and Augusta National and the NFL (and the advertisers) are 
> on board, I can foresee the following: 
>
> 1. The NFL schedules no late games for CBS. 
>
> 2. As few early games as possible on CBS (i.e., Fox taking as many as they 
> can). 
>
> 3. Early games airing on CBS only in the home regions of the teams 
> involved, with no game on CBS in other areas (e.g., a hypothetical 
> Dolphins-Bengals matchup would air in south Florida and southern Ohio, but 
> a Falcons-Panthers game on Fox means there would be no game on CBS in 
> Georgia and the Carolinas). 
>
> 4. The Masters beginning on CBS (in markets that aren't getting a CBS NFL 
> game) AND on CBS Sports Network (and perhaps other Viacom/CBS cable 
> channels as well). 
>
> 5. In markets getting a CBS NFL game, the Masters starts airing on CBS 
> when the game is over.


I'd say that the second possibility  is most likely, with  Fox taking as 
many as they can and getting Tim Brando or Gus Johnson to help out or Brian 
Custer. Or Joe Davis maybe?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/9d762736-e746-4acb-83f5-e7f257f94085%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Virus prompts late shows to drop audiences, ‘Survivor’ delay

[daniel anderson]

everything, it seems, is being canceled

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 7:29:11 PM UTC-4, Steve Timko wrote:
>
> Virus prompts late shows to drop audiences, ‘Survivor’ delay
>
> LOS ANGELES (AP) — The ripple effect of the new coronavirus on the 
> entertainment industry reached late-night television and ...
>
> Read the full story on https://apnews.com/2073ff69c2cf0002b6dcf8fe8583001c
>
> Sent from AP News. Download now on the App Store or Google Play 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/1e8443cb-9528-4ab6-bef8-646dcf248c7f%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] I dont watch late night TV.

[daniel anderson]

And haven't since the original American Gladiators in the 1989-1992 
timeframe on Saturdays. Since it aired then, i did watch that, but not SNL 
or even Carson. Although i did watch Letterman once i got out of school. 
usually just the monologue.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/20cfc8ea-c0c7-4ded-9554-29ae16829f4d%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL shuffling schedule

[daniel anderson]

Interestingly, Fox is allowed to show the NO/SF game opposite a Jets home 
game in New York. Menawhile Houston, Cleveland and Buffalo get hit with Fox 
game at 4p of little geographic interest, Chargers at Jacksonville. The Fox 
affiliates in those markets can only run one game and it has to be in the 
4p window because the clubs in those markets are playing at home at 1p and 
on CBS.  The, how is NY allowed to air a game opposite the Jets, who are at 
home? In the interest of stronger ratings in the nation’s largest market.

On Tuesday, November 12, 2019 at 9:40:07 PM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> Haven't had much of that so far, but the week before Thanksgiving and the 
> week before Christmas will see moves... all times East.
>
> November 24th:
> Carolina @ New Orleans and Miami @ Cleveland switch networks, the former 
> to CBS, the latter to Fox. Both remain at 1pm.
> Seattle @ Philadelphia moves to 1pm on Fox, replaced on NBC with the 
> originally-Fox Green Bay @ San Francisco. (As if Eagles fans aren't hissed 
> enough.)
>
> December 21st and 22nd:
> The to-be-determined games have been slotted...
> The three Saturday NFL Network-national games, in order, are Houston @ 
> Tampa Bay (1pm), Buffalo @ New England (4.30), and LA Rams @ S.F. (8.15).
> Detroit @ Denver and Oakland @ LA Chargers become 4.05 Sunday starts, both 
> at CBS.
>
>
> https://nflcommunications.com/Pages/NFL-announces-schedule-changes-for-Weeks-12,-16.aspx
>  
> (link)
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/f5c4254f-27fb-4d61-ae3a-c02e573bd4ad%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: CBS's 60 Minutes lead-in just took a big hit.....

[daniel anderson]

Fox meanwhile. has 2 late games before the Emmys-any bets that either one 
goes to OT and bumps the red carpet stuff?

On Monday, September 16, 2019 at 8:36:00 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> Big Ben is out for the season and Drew Brees is out for 6 weeks...Does the 
> Eye make Texans at Chargers it's lead game? 
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/3b891782-25f9-4835-9d64-09800b4e354e%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] CBS's 60 Minutes lead-in just took a big hit.....

[daniel anderson]

Big Ben is out for the season and Drew Brees is out for 6 weeks...Does the 
Eye make Texans at Chargers it's lead game? 

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/03fd2c9d-18a7-4de1-9184-ab81bd97ceda%40googlegroups.com.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Who are the best pro football announcers?

[daniel anderson]

Not to bump this thread, but to me the best one at doing the highlights was 
Chris Berman. Not to be mean towards Howard, who also was great in that 
role, but Berman really made NFL PrimeTime his own. But he did copy Cosell 
a lot. There were many Sundays, after the last late game finished ,i'd 
switch to ESPN.

On Monday, October 31, 2016 at 9:54:01 PM UTC-4, Steve Timko wrote:
>
> Sean McDonough and Jon Gruden aiin't doing 
>
> Not sent from an iPhone.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/f1860bea-a344-463c-afcd-4f2c330276ae%40googlegroups.com.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Emmys Question

[daniel anderson]

FOX has 2 NFL games before the Emmys this year- and one involves the 
Giants(the other- Panthers-Cardinals; the Giants are in Tampa)

On Wednesday, July 17, 2019 at 11:16:07 AM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote:
>
> The Emmy nominees got announced yesterday. Here's Variety's list - 
> https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/emmys-2019-nominations-complete-list-1203268665/
>
> But I have a couple of questions that spring from these awards.
>
> - The Variety (Special) Live award. Is this a category purposefully built 
> to hand out awards to other awards shows? Only the Emmys themselves don't 
> seem to be on the list! I would argue that if this isn't a broad enough 
> category to include a wider variety of shows, then it should be replaced by 
> something more useful (e.g. New drama series).
>
> - Structured v Unstructured Reality Programs. I'd love to see the 
> definitions for this, since while series like Deadliest Catch or Ru Paul's 
> Drag Race are considered "unstructured" I'm pretty sure they're heavily 
> "structured" in their production. 
>
> - Where would a proper documentary series go? Maybe there's a whole 
> separate Emmy Awards for them, but the Informational Series or Special 
> award seems very broad, including Letterman's Netflix show as well as 
> Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee. Where would a 'proper' documentary series 
> from someone like Ken Burns go?
>
> Adam
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/8e270188-167b-4115-9caf-260d7226db9e%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: A lit-tle lack of planning at Fox

[daniel anderson]

fox should had yankees-red sox on a week when there wasn't a usga golf 
event scheduled.

On Saturday, June 29, 2019 at 4:38:43 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> They'd figured the first of two Yankees/Red Sox clashes at London 
> (Olympic) Stadium would be a pitchers' duel, with the third round of a USGA 
> golf event following at 4pm east.
>
> At 4.30 they'd only played 5½, with the Yanks up 17-6. (The US Senior Open 
> got pushed to FS1.)
>
> There was a mascot race, for those who enjoy them here: Freddie Mercury, 
> HM King Henry VIII, Winston Churchill, and the Loch Ness Monster 
>  
> (ESPN link).
>
> Mr Buck was served a massive "hot dog" (north of a foot, I think) with 
> plenty of toppings.
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/3af785bc-d5d6-449c-a99f-fe4b1f79dc8e%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Thank Netflix for Fallon Tonight tweak

[daniel anderson]

Doesn't NBC do  a 1:04 terminal break for sports anyway? That only happens 
with liver sports, but i notice that NBC seems to get to news quicker than 
the other nets.

On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 2:59:05 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
> The option to skip ahead of a program's opening credits on the streaming 
> service convinced Jimmy and his new exec, ex-"Today" 'runner Jim Bell, to 
> do some shortening of their own... but the underlying reasoning has been 
> around since (*gasp!*) before 2000...
>
>
> https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/jimmy-fallon-tonight-show-nbc-opening-credits-the-roots-1203227606/
>  
> (link)
>
> I'm not expecting Colbert to retool his bit-before-open soon, FWIW...
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/e50e826a-dea7-4371-8f27-65d1dcd7c175%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Interesting move by the NFL...

[daniel anderson]

They are eliminating the home team games having exclusivity, and letting 
every market air 3 games each week, beginning this season. Wonder if it 
will be permanent, like the blackout rules being abolished.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tvornottv/80326011-a377-4ac9-b720-a41c15eb57fd%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] NHL on NBC question

[daniel anderson]

Gord Miller and Ray Ferraro(from TSN) are doing game 2 tonight...meanwhile 
John Forslund is doing double duty, calling the CMB/TBL series for NBC and 
CAR/WSH for the local Fox Sports outlet, while Brendan Burke(the Isles TV 
guy) is doing that series for NBC, and since I live in the Canes TV market, 
I get to pick either feed. I'm also pretty big on Chris Cuthbert, who used 
to work for CBC, and who has the DAL/NSH series.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 7:26:30 PM UTC-4, Joe Hass wrote:
>
> If I remember reading correctly, they're taking the SN feed for the 
> entirety of that series. In the first round (when they don't have 
> exclusivity), they'll especially pick up the NBCSN feeds where available.
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019, 18:21 daniel anderson  > wrote:
>
>> NBC is producing most games, but tonight, they are using the Sportsnet 
>> feed for Jets-Blues. That's the only time they are doing it, though.(Due to 
>> it being on NHLN)
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvor...@googlegroups.com .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NHL on NBC question

[daniel anderson]

Only possible issue could be Leafs-Bruins G2 on Sat-since SNL is live, the 
game will switch to "another NBC outlet"  at 10:59:30pm ET if it goes OT. 
Likely CNBC or USA.

On Wednesday, April 10, 2019 at 7:21:37 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> NBC is producing most games, but tonight, they are using the Sportsnet 
> feed for Jets-Blues. That's the only time they are doing it, though.(Due to 
> it being on NHLN)
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] NHL on NBC question

[daniel anderson]

NBC is producing most games, but tonight, they are using the Sportsnet feed 
for Jets-Blues. That's the only time they are doing it, though.(Due to it 
being on NHLN)

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Trebek in 1975

[daniel anderson]

I remember Jim Perry more for "Sale of The Century"-  a show  i watched 
pretty regularly in the 80s. he and Summer(can't remember her last name) 
were just as good as pat and Vanna.

On Tuesday, March 19, 2019 at 1:04:01 PM UTC-4, M-D November wrote:
>
> IIRC, Buzr was (is?) showing episodes of the Trebek-hosted Goodson/Todman 
>  "Double Dare" from the 70s.  Notably, this show's theme was later recycled 
> as the theme for the Jim Perry run of "Card Sharks".

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] I've always wondered....

[daniel anderson]

How is it decided when the networks break into programming for news, like 
when the airplanes were shut down yesterday?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: soap operas.

[daniel anderson]

The music on soaps have changed- in my grandmom's day it was organ music. 
By the time i came along(1985) it was precoded. 

Not having an announcer is another. Since *Another World* was an P soap, 
it meant hearing Bill Wolff deliver sponsor reads for Crest, Crisco, Head & 
Shoulders, Ivory, etc. and Crest is still P owned.

On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 8:19:34 PM UTC-5, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I've always had a soft spot for *Another World*- in the 80s, but i've 
> heard some old airchecks of *AW* from the late 60s-early 70s- and the 
> writing was really good. The music was suppled by a organ that was used 
> back in the radio days. Also a throwback to the radio days was the use of 
> an announcer- in this case Bill Wolff, who was an NBC staff guy(like Don 
> Pardo was then). Wolff mostly announced the sponsors and if needed cast 
> changes and to tell viewers to stay tuned for *You Don't Say*(game show 
> with Tom Kennedy) at the end. A lot of the older shows use announcers too- 
> Alan Berns on CBS did *Guiding Light* for many years. Mel Brandt, who did 
> the "in living color" announcements, also was the announcer for *The 
> Doctors* too.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: soap operas.

[daniel anderson]

I don't think "Y" has had any since Bern Bennett retired in 03. "Days of
Our Lives" hasn't to my knowledge.

Alan Berns, who's "this is CBS" id was heard till 2000, did "Guiding Light"
for years. And Harry Kramer who did Edge of Night for years as well as
being Walter Cronkite's announcer.

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 8:06 PM 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
tvornottv@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> daniel anderson, today (3/07):
>>
>> Do any of the current soaps have sponsor announcements like what Bill
>> Wolff used to do on AW these days?
>>
>> Not that I've ever seen... a local restaurant keeps the CBS o from
> Philly on all day and night, and "B" and "Y" don't. Takes up valuable
> time for program content or other things.
>
> B
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/tvornottv/nEQ7l4z9PkI/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: soap operas.

[daniel anderson]

Do any of the current soaps have sponsor announcements like what Bill Wolff 
used to do on AW these days?

On Wednesday, March 6, 2019 at 8:19:34 PM UTC-5, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I've always had a soft spot for *Another World*- in the 80s, but i've 
> heard some old airchecks of *AW* from the late 60s-early 70s- and the 
> writing was really good. The music was suppled by a organ that was used 
> back in the radio days. Also a throwback to the radio days was the use of 
> an announcer- in this case Bill Wolff, who was an NBC staff guy(like Don 
> Pardo was then). Wolff mostly announced the sponsors and if needed cast 
> changes and to tell viewers to stay tuned for *You Don't Say*(game show 
> with Tom Kennedy) at the end. A lot of the older shows use announcers too- 
> Alan Berns on CBS did *Guiding Light* for many years. Mel Brandt, who did 
> the "in living color" announcements, also was the announcer for *The 
> Doctors* too.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] soap operas.

[daniel anderson]

I've always had a soft spot for *Another World*- in the 80s, but i've heard 
some old airchecks of *AW* from the late 60s-early 70s- and the writing was 
really good. The music was suppled by a organ that was used back in the 
radio days. Also a throwback to the radio days was the use of an announcer- 
in this case Bill Wolff, who was an NBC staff guy(like Don Pardo was then). 
Wolff mostly announced the sponsors and if needed cast changes and to tell 
viewers to stay tuned for *You Don't Say*(game show with Tom Kennedy) at 
the end. A lot of the older shows use announcers too- Alan Berns on CBS did 
*Guiding 
Light* for many years. Mel Brandt, who did the "in living color" 
announcements, also was the announcer for *The Doctors* too.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] what's wrong with Google Groups the last few days?

[daniel anderson]

I can't access posts if I search, but if I go to the group page and click, 
I can still access it. I wonder whats up.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Colbert Blooper?

[daniel anderson]

The NCAA tournament is another one, because it all depends on when the 
first game ends.

CBS used to be set up with "multiple network capability" where they 
could(back before they shared rights with Turner) where they could end 
basketball coverage in most of the country, but keep local markets on a 
late running game. Happened twice- in 1994 with the Minnesota-Louisville 
game and in 2006 with the Utah St.-Washington game. They’ve got a lot of 
hoops to jump through when there’s a live show in prime. In the first case, 
CBS had to go to 60 Minutes(because it looked like the game wouldn't end 
till after 7:30, and in the latter case, only the states of Washington and 
Utah were getting that game, so CBS went to local news early. There was a 
bomb scare in the Thursday afternoon sessions in San Diego that delayed the 
games there, so that might have influenced CBS's decision there. I don't 
remember them ever doing it since.

On Thursday, February 14, 2019 at 11:23:20 AM UTC-5, Ben Scripps wrote:
>
> On Feb 14, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Jim Ellwanger  > wrote: 
> > 
> > The Trevor Noah clip also aired in place of the cold open in Los 
> Angeles, so I assume this was a problem with CBS's Pacific time zone feed, 
> not a local issue. 
>
> ISTR there’s at least one affiliate somewhere out west that airs Colbert 
> half an hour off the normal schedule.  Stations used to “tape and turn” 
> (that is, start recording the show, then air the front half while the back 
> half is still recording), but they might have set it up now where there’s a 
> separate half-hour offset feed on which Colbert starts at :05 past the hour 
> instead of :35.  CBS Satellite Control in NYC controls all of the affiliate 
> satellite receivers**, and it wouldn’t be the first time they had 
> affiliates tuned to the wrong feed.  My guess is that they had PacNet 
> stations accidentally set up on this offset feed and happened to switch 
> everyone back to the “correct” feed just as the show open was starting. 
>  (It’s also very possible that the live “Celebrity Big Bother” had 
> something to do with it; they’ve got a lot of hoops to jump through when 
> there’s a live show in prime.) 
>
> **Based on my phone calls to them over the years, I believe they may also 
> control a couple of the thickest New York accents in the world.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Bristology: It's the Yanks and Sawx, stupid...

[daniel anderson]

Fox will have the Saturday game, with Joe Buck and John Smoltz on the call, 
and it's a night game in London, early afternoon in the States.

On Friday, December 14, 2018 at 10:41:27 AM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> ESPN will actually do *two* Major League Baseball games Sunday, June 
> 30th... the Bunch will need to find a "B" team to do a (TBA) primetime game 
> that night, but Matty V, Jess and A-Rod will be at the former London 
> Olympic Stadium as these traditional rivals complete a two-game series, 
> starting at 10AM East... hope it don't rain...
>
> Pee-arr from TWL 
> 
>  
> (link)
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Red Zone is great.

[daniel anderson]

Last night, i saw the ending of Steelers-Raiders at the same time as the 
Eagles-Cowboys. That channel is great.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] How many acts are in a TV show these days?

[daniel anderson]

When i was a kid, "China Beach" had 4 acts, but "Another World" had 
7.(daytime soaps had more acts than primetime shows.) What's the format 
these days?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL flexing for Weeks 13 AND 14

[daniel anderson]

A cross-flex is likely for week 15- Fox has a lot of games while CBS only 
has 4- so more than one game likely gets switched...

On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:33:25 AM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> December 2nd:
> -- Chargers @ Steelers from 1:00/CBS to SNF/NBC
> -- 49ers @ Seahawks from SNF to 4:25/Fox
>
> December 9th:
> -- Rams @ Bears from 1:00/Fox to SNF/NBC
> -- Steelers @ Raiders from SNF to 4:25/Fox
>
> League pee-arr 
> 
>  
> (link)
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL flexing for Weeks 13 AND 14

[daniel anderson]

A not-so-good move per see, as he Saints dominated the Eagles...meanwhile, 
CBS had two great late games at 4:05 from the West Coast..likely a good 
reason why Steelers-Raiders was cross-flexed to FOX for week 14...

On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 3:08:22 PM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> daniel anderson, today (15):
>>
>> Kind of surprised they moved the Steelers game to Fox, given that 
>> Eagles/Cowboys is supposed to be "America's Game of The Week." Maybe for 
>> blowout protection?
>>
>>
>>> League doesn't always do this to the late game... they won't this week 
> with Boids in NO.  B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL flexing for Weeks 13 AND 14

[daniel anderson]

Kind of surprised they moved the Steelers game to Fox, given that 
Eagles/Cowboys is supposed to be "America's Game of The Week." Maybe for 
blowout protection?

On Thursday, November 15, 2018 at 10:33:25 AM UTC-5, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> December 2nd:
> -- Chargers @ Steelers from 1:00/CBS to SNF/NBC
> -- 49ers @ Seahawks from SNF to 4:25/Fox
>
> December 9th:
> -- Rams @ Bears from 1:00/Fox to SNF/NBC
> -- Steelers @ Raiders from SNF to 4:25/Fox
>
> League pee-arr 
> 
>  
> (link)
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Did your family stick with one network over the other?

[daniel anderson]

I had one extended family member, say that while she watched *The Doctors(*soap 
opera) and Another World on NBC, she watched Cronkite for the news.  I 
believe it was because Frank McGee declared during a broadcast that Vietnam 
was being lost- that made that family upset enough to watch Cronkite. These 
days, for news in our household, it's ABC.

On Monday, April 2, 2018 at 8:23:24 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I was thinking- We watched ABC shows back then- we almost agreed on 
> everything then- with exceptions being daytime game shows on NBC, and maybe 
> a few others.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] California on fire... again

[daniel anderson]

I wonder what happens if the Rams-Seahawks game has to be moved? obviously 
Dolphins-Packers would be full national, but if the Rams game gets moved, 
remember ESPN has exclusivity on Mondays.(altohugh they could move the Rams 
game to after the Giants-49ers game.)

On Friday, November 9, 2018 at 7:29:01 PM UTC-5, PGage wrote:
>
> I will second Kevin with a report from the North - has been a very tough 
> few days here in California. I woke up at 2:00 am Thursday, read about the 
> shooting in Thousand  Oaks, and had reason to worry that my college son 
> (turning 21 in 2 days), may have been at that bar. I had a rough 90 Minutes 
> until I was able to confirm he was safe in his dorm. Truthfully, I kind of 
> lost it for a bit, and sleep-walked through the day yesterday. I know some 
> fathers were not as lucky. The phrase “I can’t...” is part of contemporary 
> jargon, but I never really understood it until now. I can’t let myself 
> really sit with what those parents are going though right now, it’s just a 
> bit too raw.
>
> Like our friends in the southern part of the state, we are dealing with a 
> killer fire up North too. It is centered in kind of a sister community to 
> the town where I live, and I have a lot of friends and family who have been 
> evacuated, and some who have lost their homes. All that is directly 
> impacting me is the smoke, and it seems selfish to complain about that at 
> this point, but it is a real health problem (area public schools canceled 
> classes today), it is hard to see, and just about impossible to breathe 
> deeply without coughing. And most of the people in my county can not shake 
> traumatic memories from 13 months ago when fires stormed through our Valley 
> and killed some of our friends.
>
> I know we are not supposed to talk about gun control after mass shootings, 
> or climate change after killer fires, but Jesus Christ, what exactly is it 
> going to take to get us to start doing something about these issues? I 
> suppose at least we can take comfort that our best minds and most sensitive 
> hearts are in the White House right now...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 9, 2018 at 4:02 PM Kevin M.  > wrote:
>
>> Homes and businesses at risk or gone. Not to be all conspiratorial, but I 
>> suspect a serial arsonist (or copycats) at work. Too many highly populated 
>> areas for all the fires to be a coincidence.
>>
>> Fans of the TV series Westworld, the set is gone.
>>
>>
>> https://variety.com/2018/film/news/westworld-paramount-ranch-western-town-woolsey-fire-1203024785/
>>
>> -- 
>> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
> -- 
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] How many feeds do the networks use on a given night?

[daniel anderson]

Fox uses level 1 or level 2- during the OU/Texas game a few weeks back, 
when the Supreme Court nomination was being voted on, most station stuck 
with the OU/Texas game, especially station in Texas and Oklahoma. .

On Tuesday, February 13, 2018 at 2:27:10 PM UTC-5, Jim Ellwanger wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 13, 2018, at 5:30 AM, daniel anderson  > wrote: 
> > 
> > Besides regional football, the morning news shows, which are taped 
> outside of the eastern time zone, but what if there is a special report? Do 
> they interrupted all feeds at once? 
>
> From my days working in live closed-captioning 20 years ago:  the 
> broadcast networks basically have three feeds for on-air programming 
> (Eastern/Central, Mountain, and Pacific), and special reports would run on 
> all feeds. When affiliates are not taking network programming, they're 
> supposed to always be monitoring the appropriate network feed for their 
> time zone, although much of the time, the network is able to give them a 
> heads-up for a special report a few minutes in advance. (NBC paid the 
> company I worked for to have a live closed-captioner on standby, monitoring 
> the Eastern feed, from 6 A.M. to midnight daily.) 
>
> Sometimes when a special report interrupts a show, the networks will 
> re-feed it later, for the benefit of affiliates who might have been 
> recording it to broadcast later. (Such as Alaska, Hawaii, and Arizona for 
> much of the year.) 
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Was last night's World Series game the longest network sports event ever?

[daniel anderson]

Did this game set a record for the longest sports even ever on  a network?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL question?

[daniel anderson]

This Sunday was one example- the Jaguars-Chiefs game was a blowout, so that 
audience was switched to the Ravens-Browns game. But on a network's 
singleheader day, they are not permitted to continue live coverage of an OT 
game past 4:20 or 4:25. But... the Chiefs game was switched to the Ravens 
game because it was more competitive, so that canceled out because it was 
switched before the Chiefs game was over.
On Monday, September 17, 2018 at 5:48:35 AM UTC-4, JW wrote:
>
> > Why was CBS allowed to finish the Chiefs-Steelers telecast, but Fox 
> wasn't
> > allowed to stay with the Vikings-Packers game once it went to overtime? 
>
> If Chiefs-Steelers was your game to start with, you'll get to see it to 
> its conclusion. (The only exception is if your local team is playing the 
> late game of the doubleheader. Those teams' markets have to see the whole 
> game, from beginning to end.)
>
> If Fox switched to "bonus coverage" of Vikings-Packers, you can only see 
> it until the end of the early-game window.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Big trouble in Ohio...

[daniel anderson]

The interesting thing is that the Cleveland @ Oakland game is airing in 
quite a few markets, mostly in area that have the home team on CBS at 1:00. 
Since the NFL frowns on the home team having another game opposite it, most 
of those markets are taking the Browns-Raiders contest.

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 8:04:38 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> The Fox affiliate in Toledo has the show the Lions game, even though there 
> are more Browns fans in Toledo, because the Lions are closer to that area, 
> and it's CBS's doubleheader...should the NFL allow WTOL to show the Browns 
> game even though it's CBS's doubleheader?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Big trouble in Ohio...

[daniel anderson]

The Fox affiliate in Toledo has the show the Lions game, even though there 
are more Browns fans in Toledo, because the Lions are closer to that area, 
and it's CBS's doubleheader...should the NFL allow WTOL to show the Browns 
game even though it's CBS's doubleheader?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: NFL question?

[daniel anderson]

Maybe CBS should do a seamless transition to 60 Minutes- do they really 
need to have a local break between the end of the late game and 60?

On Sunday, September 16, 2018 at 5:32:31 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> Why was CBS allowed to finish the Chiefs-Steelers telecast, but Fox wasn't 
> allowed to stay with the Vikings-Packers game once it went to overtime?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: All broadcast TV morning & daytime programming

[daniel anderson]

I kind of miss the ABC of old- when it was Charles Gibson and Diane Sawyer 
in the mornings, and Peter Jennings doing World News Tonight. George is the 
closest they've got who could do WNT, I'd switch him to the evenings, and 
Muir to GMA.

On Thursday, September 20, 2018 at 7:56:12 AM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
> AAARRRGGGHHH!!! PPPBBBTTTHHH!!! ACK! ICK! PPPFFFTTT!
> -- 
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Weekend late night is mostly reruns now...

[daniel anderson]

I remember the good old days- when shows like* American Gladiators* were on 
late nights on weekends- these days it's mostly reruns now.

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] NFL question?

[daniel anderson]

Why was CBS allowed to finish the Chiefs-Steelers telecast, but Fox wasn't 
allowed to stay with the Vikings-Packers game once it went to overtime?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: The NFL may have to punish Fox...

[daniel anderson]

Doesn't NBC's exclusivity start at 8 or at the kickoff time of 8:20?

On Sunday, September 9, 2018 at 8:12:17 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> For cutting away from the Titans-Dolphins game for prime time programming 
> in Nashville and Miami, or was that a switching error?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] The NFL may have to punish Fox...

[daniel anderson]

For cutting away from the Titans-Dolphins game for prime time programming 
in Nashville and Miami, or was that a switching error?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Alex Trebek contemplates retirement

[daniel anderson]

I grew up watching Trebek do Jeopardy, even though my grandmother would 
always talk about the fact that she watched the show back when it was 
hosted by Art Fleming. But i was born in 85, when Trebek was doing the show.

On Monday, July 30, 2018 at 5:09:10 PM UTC-4, Tom Wolper wrote:
>
> This is taken from a Fox News interview Trebek did recently:
>
>
> http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/la-et-entertainment-news-updates-2018-jeopardy-s-alex-trebek-contemplating-1532962865-htmlstory.html
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Do game shows not do fee plugs anymore?

[daniel anderson]

I do wonder if Johnny Gilbert's announcing is done in post or live- some of 
Jim Thornton's work on "Wheel" seems to be in post.

On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 7:01:10 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> They'd don't do the fee plugs- haven't in a long time-  it's always been 
> "Promotional consideration provided by..." i remember when that started in 
> the 80s on syndicated game shows. On the syndicated version of Sale of The 
> Century, they did that, but they had the late Jay Stewart read the script 
> of the spot- at least from the reruns i saw on USA in the mid-90s. I wonder 
> how long has the "Promotional consideration provided by..." ben going on?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Do game shows not do fee plugs anymore?

[daniel anderson]

Would say the first non-announcer plugs that i remember, was for Blue 
Bonnet Margarine on reruns of game shows on USA Network in the early to 
mid-90s. They seemed to be dated- likely from the 80s. $100K Pyramid did 
have mini-ads too, at least from reruns i watched on USA. GSN showed them 
too for a while, if i remember. I've always found the older ones much more 
entertaining than the current ones you see now.

On Thursday, July 5, 2018 at 12:39:08 PM UTC-4, M-D November wrote:
>
> Correct.  Jeopardy does the same thing; occasionally it'll be Johnny 
> Gilbert reading the ad copy over a still-frame or sponsor-provided video, 
> but in many cases it'll be produced commercials/sponsor-generated content.
>
> FWIW, if you watch the reruns on BUZZR, they leave in the fee plug spots, 
> so you get to hear Johnny Olsen doing plugs for West Bend, Turtle Wax, etc.
>
> On Wednesday, July 4, 2018 at 9:07:50 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>>
>>
>> Doesn't "Price Is Right" still allow some paid spots? If they're not done 
>> on the show, they just insert produced commercials.  B
>>
>>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Do game shows not do fee plugs anymore?

[daniel anderson]

They'd don't do the fee plugs- haven't in a long time-  it's always been 
"Promotional consideration provided by..." i remember when that started in 
the 80s on syndicated game shows. On the syndicated version of Sale of The 
Century, they did that, but they had the late Jay Stewart read the script 
of the spot- at least from the reruns i saw on USA in the mid-90s. I wonder 
how long has the "Promotional consideration provided by..." ben going on?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: So long, Richard Valeriani

[daniel anderson]

Didn't he co-host *Today* at some point from Washington- before Bryant 
Gumbel came aboard(and Chris Wallace)?

On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 12:24:25 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> At a time when a young moi couldn't understand most of what was going on 
> in the world, he was one of NBC News' mainstay correspondents... after 
> leaving the Peacock in 1988, he switched careers to become a prominent 
> media trainer working with the likes of Jimmy Fallon, Ted Danson, companies 
> like Ford and Merck, even some government officials. 85.
>
> Variety 
> 
>  
> (link)
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[daniel anderson]

ABC stations don't have to worry about E/I these days- almost all of their 
waivers are for college football. If the Fox stations can't figure out what 
to do with E/I, then most games should be on cable.

On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 12:14:45 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I see some markets opting out of some games, what's going on?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[daniel anderson]

Kind of surprised about that some Fox stations couldn't figure out what to 
do about their required E/I programming, since they knew well in advance 
about the game schedule- i'd given FS1 the morning games, to help Fox 
stations with their required E/I programming.

On Sunday, June 17, 2018 at 12:14:45 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> I see some markets opting out of some games, what's going on?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] are some Fox stations not carrying World Cup?

[daniel anderson]

I see some markets opting out of some games, what's going on?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: OT: not impressed

[daniel anderson]

I wonder how cbc is handing the election with the stanley cup?

On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:27:44 PM UTC-4, Doug Eastick wrote:
>
> Today, Ontario has elected Doug Ford as Premier of the province.  That's 
> Rob Ford's brother.  Doug's campaign topics were in a similar vain as 
> Trump-ish.
>
> Doug is a Progressive Conservative party lead.
>
> wondering how long it will take for the scandals to start.
>
> Interesting comment from a CBC commentator: "His cabinet will not be too 
> diverse, as they are mostly white males".  
>
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Fox Sports lineup calling the World Cup

[daniel anderson]

I don't see why Fox couldn't simulcast ITV's commentary for some matches

On Wednesday, June 6, 2018 at 5:27:35 AM UTC-4, Adam Bowie wrote:
>
> I did laugh at the author's views of Ian Wright. He does quite a lot of 
> football broadcasting in the UK and I like him. He's part of ITV's World 
> Cup line-up as noted in the piece. But he's also a regular on the BBC, and 
> does work for BT Sport in the UK. 
>
> Only having two teams in Russia seems a little light. During the group 
> stages there will be up to three fixtures a day, and given the scale of 
> Russia, I wonder of the logistics will allow for even one fixture a day to 
> be done by one of those two teams. 
>
> While plenty of broadcasters do call games "off-tube" as it's known, it's 
> always a cost-saving measure. And it only really takes one off-the-ball 
> incident to make it clear to viewers. 
>
> For live games, both the BBC and ITV, who share the UK rights, will have 
> live commentators. Highlights packages from games that a particular 
> broadcaster has not shown may be off-tube in Russia. But again, I think 
> it's a logistical thing in Russia rather than anything. And that won't 
> happen for England games or other big fixtures.
>
>
> Adam
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 3:19 AM Tom Wolper > 
> wrote:
>
>> The interesting thing I saw is that only two play-by-play teams will be 
>> going to Russia and the rest will cover their games from monitors in the US.
>>
>>
>> http://worldsoccertalk.com/2018/05/27/guide-to-foxs-world-cup-commentators/
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Fox had to deal with a golf overrun tonight...

[daniel anderson]

And it could be worse- more rain is possible Sunday-meaning that *The 
Simpsons* could get preempted.

On Saturday, June 2, 2018 at 11:01:33 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> So their MLB coverage started in the home market stations- and the 
> Cubs-Mets game also was on FS1, until the US Womens open finished the 3rd 
> round. Has it happened before?
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Fox had to deal with a golf overrun tonight...

[daniel anderson]

So their MLB coverage started in the home market stations- and the 
Cubs-Mets game also was on FS1, until the US Womens open finished the 3rd 
round. Has it happened before?

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: ESPN gets a motorsports gem back

[daniel anderson]

I think F1 coverage as really improved- from Fox editing and tape delaying 
races before NBCSN did each one live- to where ESPN shows each race 
commercial free-to having the best commentary team in the world calling the 
races live on site-the Sky team is just as good as the Fox NASCAR team.

On Wednesday, October 4, 2017 at 6:37:21 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> Formula One, which some folks define as "Monaco + a bunch of other races" 
> and which graced the Woildwide Leadah until 1997 before stints at Fox and 
> NBC, returns in 2018 under a deal that, I'm guessin', puts that 
> Mediterranean-side event on ABC, where it hadn't been since "Wide World..." 
> got de-emphasized by the Bristol bunch...
>
> Awful Announcing 
> 
>  
> (the SBJ source is paywalled) (link)
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Back on the Big Show, again

[daniel anderson]

I don't think Olbermann has done any pbp? 

On Friday, May 25, 2018 at 6:11:01 PM UTC-4, Brad Beam wrote:
>
> KO is back for another trip through the Bristol car wash.
>
>
> http://awfulannouncing.com/espn/keith-olbermann-to-host-select-editions-of-11-p-m-sportscenter-call-baseball-play-by-play-appear-on-espn-studio-shows.html
>
>  
>
> _  _
>
> |_>|_>  Brad Beam- Belle WV
>
> |_>|_>  http://www.facebook.com/74bmw
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Possible NBC conflict Sunday?

[daniel anderson]

I don't think we've had a game go past the 2OT mark this season, unlike 
last year. So i'd say it's a 1% chance for sure.

On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:13:28 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> If the Jets-Golden Knights game goes past 8pm, it would shift to NBCSn for 
> the Billboard Music Awards. How many overtimes would it take before that 
> could occur(3pm start.)
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Possible NBC conflict Sunday?

[daniel anderson]

The NHL could deny NBC's right to switch to the Billboard Music Awards
until there is a winner in the Jets-Golden Knights game. Or does the awards
show contract require an on time start?

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:07 PM, daniel anderson <
danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> CBS had the same problem with the Grammys and a golf event earlier this
> year.
>
>
> On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:13:28 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>>
>> If the Jets-Golden Knights game goes past 8pm, it would shift to NBCSn
>> for the Billboard Music Awards. How many overtimes would it take before
>> that could occur(3pm start.)
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> topic/tvornottv/N6Ncjiu1Dc4/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Possible NBC conflict Sunday?

[daniel anderson]

You'd think the NHL would deny NBC's right to switch to an awards program
until there is a winner in the Jets-Golden Knights game. Or NHL if the
Lightning-Capitals game goes to OT on Saturday.

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 8:07 PM, daniel anderson <
danielanderson2...@gmail.com> wrote:

> CBS had the same problem with the Grammys and a golf event earlier this
> year.
>
>
> On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:13:28 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>>
>> If the Jets-Golden Knights game goes past 8pm, it would shift to NBCSn
>> for the Billboard Music Awards. How many overtimes would it take before
>> that could occur(3pm start.)
>>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/
> topic/tvornottv/N6Ncjiu1Dc4/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Possible NBC conflict Sunday?

[daniel anderson]

CBS had the same problem with the Grammys and a golf event earlier this 
year.

On Friday, May 18, 2018 at 4:13:28 PM UTC-4, daniel anderson wrote:
>
> If the Jets-Golden Knights game goes past 8pm, it would shift to NBCSn for 
> the Billboard Music Awards. How many overtimes would it take before that 
> could occur(3pm start.)
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Possible NBC conflict Sunday?

[daniel anderson]

If the Jets-Golden Knights game goes past 8pm, it would shift to NBCSn for 
the Billboard Music Awards. How many overtimes would it take before that 
could occur(3pm start.)

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Re: [TV orNotTV] Too many NHL playoff games, not enough networks

[daniel anderson]

ESPN has the same issue when the NFL draft conflicts with the NBA playoffs- 
usually, they use ESPN News  for the 3rd game.

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 1:56:24 PM UTC-4, PGage wrote:
>
> Sometimes in situations like this (I am thinking of when NBA playoff games 
> were in TNT and TBS) they start game in one channel and move it to end on 
> another (royal pain for those recording). The Baseball Giants just did this 
> on Saturday to make room for a Warrior game - luckily I was only 15 min 
> behind and figured out where they went. It was the longer of the 2 extra 
> innings games with Dodgers this weekend - game was still going when 
> Warriors game ended.
>
> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:02 AM Tom Wolper  
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 12:43 PM, 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV <
>> tvor...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A couple of fourth games in the opening round will end up on... wait for 
>>> it... wait for it...
>>>
>>> Golf Channel.
>>>
>>> Awful Announcing 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> (link)
>>>
>>
>> The only way this is a story is if there are cable systems in the markets 
>> whose teams are playing who don't carry the Golf Channel. That would shut 
>> fans out. Otherwise at game time, a fan would just bring up their channel 
>> guide, filter for sports, and choose the game regardless of which channel 
>> it's on. 
>>
>> -- 
>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
>> "TVorNotTV" group.
>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an 
>> email to tvornottv+...@googlegroups.com .
>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>
> -- 
> Sent from Gmail Mobile
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: RIP Judge Harry T Stone

[daniel anderson]

I watched reruns of Night Court on my ABC affiliate following the news in 
the early 90s, and really liked the show. Ironically, Harry died in 
Asheville, and the ABC affiliate that carried the show was WLOS, which is 
based in Asheville.

On Monday, April 16, 2018 at 6:41:15 PM UTC-4, Kevin M. (RPCV) wrote:
>
> Gotta admit. This one hurts. 
>
>
> http://www.wspa.com/news/night-court-actor-harry-anderson-dies-in-asheville/1126241637
> -- 
> Kevin M. (RPCV)
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

[TV orNotTV] Re: Too many NHL playoff games, not enough networks

[daniel anderson]

Actually NBC carried the COL/NSH game in mos tof the country, with the 
NJ/TB game on CNBC...But in New York City and in Florida the NJ/TB game 
aired on NBC, with the COL/NSH game on CNBC.

On Monday, April 9, 2018 at 12:43:24 PM UTC-4, Bob Jersey wrote:
>
>
> A couple of fourth games in the opening round will end up on... wait for 
> it... wait for it...
>
> Golf Channel.
>
> Awful Announcing 
> 
>  
> (link)
>
> There's a hockey-players-and-golf punchline somewhere, but I'll wait for 
> their commenters...
>
> B
>
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups 
"TVorNotTV" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to tvornottv+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.