[TV orNotTV] One poll's confusing reports about people and media

2018-08-08 Thread 'Bob Jersey' via TVorNotTV
Daily Beast (link), exclusively quoting an Ipsos survey: While freedom of the press, most believe, is still essential to democracy, and media need to keep the administration honest,

[TV orNotTV] If you want to know where original TV programs are going to come from

2018-08-08 Thread Tom Wolper
There is a new dramedy based on the Plain White T's 2006 song Hey There Delilah: https://twitter.com/THR/status/1027336962246504448/video/1 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TVorNotTV" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails

[TV orNotTV] The latest in cord cutter news

2018-08-08 Thread Tom Wolper
It seems to be proceeding consistently. Bloomberg News looked into why cable packages got so expensive and why networks and cable companies never came up with a working alternative to Netflix for their libraries:

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
This reminded me that the Oscar-nominated "The Big Sick" was available on Pornhub for a time, according to co-writer/star Kumail Nanjiani. https://www.newsweek.com/kumail-nanjiani-big-sick-pornhub-759264 This was late last year, so it may no longer be there.  (FWIW, Nanjiani said during a Conan

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread PGage
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:22 AM Adam Bowie wrote: > The interesting things is that these companies tend to be quite at good at > keeping some things off their sites - notably porn. Sure they also end up > banning Renaissance paintings, iconic photographs from the Vietnam war, and > mothers

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Kevin M.
On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:47 PM Steve Timko wrote: > Free speech pretty much requires an audience. > Perhaps. But there is no legal guarantee which forces a company to provide such an audience It’s not really free speech if the only place you can say it is, say, in > front of the Jehovah’s

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread 'David Bruggeman' via TVorNotTV
So we have increased tension between the government's reluctance to meddle in what could reasonably construed as tech company monopolies and the political/cultural reluctance to set a firm line beyond which the consequences of exercising free speech are such that said speech should be

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Steve Timko
They don't have to provide the audience. Merely a chance to reach them. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 9:33 PM Kevin M. wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:47 PM Steve Timko wrote: > >> Free speech pretty much requires an audience. >> > > Perhaps. But there is no legal guarantee which forces a

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Doug Eastick
side story. honest I stumbled across the story because I like music festivals and EDM (electronic dance music).. I probably saw it on reddit /r/Coachella or something. There is a DJ that got tired of youtube taking down his 60 minutes videos of his sets. youtube (or someone)

Re: [TV orNotTV] Oscars: Earlier, shorter, more popular

2018-08-08 Thread PGage
I hate this. Also, they can give out a Best Kiss Oscar if they like, they are not going to get 1970s ratings for the Oscars anymore - but the Oscars even at their low ebb is one of the most viewed television programs of the year. Try this instead: Put the 3 hour 30 minute version on network TV,

Re: [TV orNotTV] Oscars: Earlier, shorter, more popular

2018-08-08 Thread Doug Eastick
ah, PGage wants the streamed online version of the Oscars hosted by Jermaine Fowler (like he did on the Emmy's). side note - I just noticed on Wikipedia that Superior Donuts was cancelled after 2 seasons.I must have missed that announcement, or the result in the pool. I liked that 22

Re: [TV orNotTV] If you want to know where original TV programs are going to come from

2018-08-08 Thread Doug Eastick
other ideas: * Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - miniseries about Rael. * Yes - Close to the Edge - a psychedelic drug infused drama about a yoga class * Rod Stewart - Maggie May - a cable-only show about a MILF and a young guy. On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 8:39 PM Tom Wolper wrote: >

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Steve Timko
Free speech pretty much requires an audience. It’s not really free speech if the only place you can say it is, say, in front of the Jehovah’s Witness Hall. So Alex Jones can proselytize as much as he wants from his website, but as Adam noted, “to a certain generation, access to YouTube or Facebook

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Adam Bowie
>From this side of the Atlantic where free speech isn't enshrined into law the same way as it is on your side, a few other thoughts. I'll start by saying that I think operators like Apple, YouTube and Facebook are entirely within their rights to get rid of him. I also think that he's a nasty

[TV orNotTV] Oscars: Earlier, shorter, more popular

2018-08-08 Thread Brad Beam
Future ceremonies will be more Tony-like, with less important awards dished out during the commercials. And then there's the "Popcorn Oscar." https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/race/academy-plans-three-hour-oscars-telecast-adds-popular-film-category-1133138?__twitter_impression=true Sent

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Doug Eastick
I'm more aligned with Kevin on this topic and don't have much more to add than this article that summarizes my exposure to the cases of my past 30 years. Https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.1036731 The grey sidebar summarizes my understanding. Once you add a TOS, the company can do

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Doug Fields
Sorry...my mail reader broke this topic up into several different threads, and I missed the majority of well thought out back-and-forth that many of you have posted in the last 24 hours. If I'd read those first, my response would've been a lot more reasoned and nuanced, and a lot less

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread Doug Fields
Once *again*, for the people who cut 8th grade Civics too many times...the 1st Amendment grants you protection from the *government* prosecuting you for things you say. *That* is the one and only definition of "free speech" protection granted by the Constitution. Yes, you can say anything you

Re: Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Semi-OT: InfoWars accounts suspended across digital media

2018-08-08 Thread PGage
No problem. But it does prompt me to repeat Some things more succinctly from my initial post that probably got lost in my long and boring elaborations: 1. This is not a First Amendment Issue 2. It is a Free Speech issue (which goes beyond what is constitutional and legal, and goes to a broader