[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Justyn Howard
Thank you for the response Doug. I intended the post to be more curious than implicative ­ though it may have sounded more of the latter. In any case, we¹ve all grown to love the openness of the platform, and the platform itself as such a great opportunity to build. I just got nervous when I

[twitter-dev] twitter end_session doesn't work

2009-06-10 Thread Mysen
Hi there, I wanna implement the logout from twitter function in my web application, so that my clients may able to login with another twitter account. Has anyone ever succeed in this function? Please let us know how to get it done, thanks in advance. btw, I'm using 'twitter' and 'oauth' gems to

[twitter-dev] Re: Purposed method: friendships/show

2009-06-10 Thread jim.renkel
In thinking this through a little more and how this would fit into my applications, I have another suggestion to propose. Currently, if an application requests the followers of user B, on behalf of user A (i.e., the request is authenticated with user A's credentials), it gets back the list of

[twitter-dev] Re: OAuth and 3rd party apps

2009-06-10 Thread Jonathan
Well, that's certainly a very clever way to deal with trans- application OAuth and great information to keep in mind for those of us developing APIs for our own applications. Unfortunately, it won't do much to solve the current problem of calling 3rd party applications that either a) haven't

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Kinlan
Hi, As the developer of Twollo here are my thoughts. *Auto un-follow:* I have not implemented it, I am unlikely too - it has lost me users for not doing it. I developed Twollo to help you find people to follow. I have *a lot* of requests to develop a feature that will auto-un-follow after X days

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread Jesse Stay
The problem right now with an unfollow limit is that if they do choose to reciprocate following (which is a practice I personally like to do myself for the reasons stated - it's more than just etiquette. I do it because it builds community and encourages conversation.), eventually some users will

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread Paul Kinlan
Its an interesting topic. I wouldn't say the 2000 limit would make auto unfollow necessary - you have to remember the people using auto-unfollow are mostly doing it to cycle their accounts get as many followers and not to have a massive skew on their follower/following ratio to make them appear

[twitter-dev] Posting to Twitter via TXT outside the US

2009-06-10 Thread Emrah
Hello, Is there any possibility to post to Twitter via SMS outside the US? Is there any interest in opening a sms to Twitter gateway in Europe? I could cover UK and Switzerland to start with. Cheers, Emrah

[twitter-dev] Re: How does the trends method in search API work?

2009-06-10 Thread zvn
Hi, OK. Thanks anyway. :) On Jun 9, 11:12 pm, Matt Sanford m...@twitter.com wrote: Hi there,      We don't currently share the secret recipe for making trends and   there are no plans to as far as I know. Thanks;    — Matt Sanford On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:29 AM, zvn wrote: Hi,

[twitter-dev] PHP Curl Functions and responses...

2009-06-10 Thread Niju Mohan C P
Hello All, I'm in process of building a PHP Curl based twitter tool. I need to know the functions, its responses and all like how to authenticate the login creditintials, follow users etc. Do reply... Thanks in Advance...

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Logo on Facebook

2009-06-10 Thread Dean 'at' Cognation dot Net
sure but post it here once and it will be here for all to see what the answer is. I've also wondered what Twitter inc are and aren't enforcing, particularly as i've used something similar...but for an app - which meas it should be answered here. Just a thought. Cheers, Dean On Jun 9, 4:35 

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Jesse, Twitter will always be between a rock and a hard place, because one can be certain that there will be folks who will find new ways to take advantage of of any change they make in their rules. Something I have seen with TweetLater is that some people are extremely creative when it comes

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
If someone runs through your neighborhood killing people with a chainsaw, should the government shut down Home Depot because they sell chainsaws? It is a fact of life that, regardless of how benign or how powerful the tools are that you provide your users, 99% will use them in a sensible and

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Andrew Badera
I think 1% is pretty kind given the huge volume of spammers on Twitter these days. And I'd even say that spam-friendly tools turn non-spammers INTO spammers, either inadvertently, or gateway style -- once they see how they can take advantage of the system, they do. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:55

[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API + PHP and Python

2009-06-10 Thread Jason Emerick
I believe I had to set the default locale of my system to use UTF-8 by setting the appropriate environment variable. I believe it was the following on an ubuntu server: LANG=en_US.UTF-8 The other option as Nick pointed out is using the following: foo = foo.encode(utf-8) Jason Emerick The

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 6/10/09 9:55 AM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: It is a fact of life that, regardless of how benign or how powerful the tools are that you provide your users, 99% will use them in a sensible and responsible manner, and 1% will always try and abuse them. This is why I am ALWAYS very cautious about

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Dossy, You are 100% correct. They will spam as long as there is some benefit for them doing so. Spamming is like shoplifting. It's part of the cost of doing business if you own a store. You put measures in place to try and prevent it, but you can never prevent it all. Dewald On Jun 10, 11:36 

[twitter-dev] Re: Enable ability to block apps via Twitter or the API

2009-06-10 Thread Dean 'at' Cognation dot Net
On May 31, 6:57 pm, kylel...@gmail.com kylel...@gmail.com wrote: I completely agree with some type of blocking for specific apps. It kills me that I am dealing with the annoyance of Facebook on Twitter. Twitter... please for the love of God. Save us from spymaster. @kyleplacy Isn't it

[twitter-dev] Tweets not showing up in realtime search results

2009-06-10 Thread Rod
As per the title. Not an uncommon problem, judging by the complaints listed on GetSatisfaction. Anyone have any ideas?? This has killed my algorithm - attention data from Twitter is a big component of my ranking engine. The accounts in question are http://twitter.com/techwatching and

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser
Having a known ghetto is useful: it helps you focus where to patrol. .sig dibs! -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- FORTUNE: You will be hit with a lot of money.

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Andrew Badera
Despite the poor, potentially offensive use of the term ghetto ? Any neighborhood of a particular clustered minor demographic deserves to be patrolled? Slick gents, slick. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Cameron Kaiserspec...@floodgap.com wrote: Having a known ghetto is useful: it helps

[twitter-dev] Re: Tweets not showing up in realtime search results

2009-06-10 Thread Rod
I'm thinking that because techwatching and techwatching_cl post similar content (with different links) that may be why they've been blacklisted - taken together, do they look like a spam attack? One part of the answer may be to shutter one of them, and just have a single account.

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread Caliban Darklock
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 2:49 AM, Jesse Stayjesses...@gmail.com wrote: Honestly, I can't see any legitimate reason for doing a search for people to follow and following more than 200 of those people in a day, other than collecting spam lists or trying to build up following numbers, reducing

[twitter-dev] Feature request: share the admin of an oauth app

2009-06-10 Thread Erwan
Hi, I've created an OAuth app, but now it's completely linked to my account. It would be nice if I could give admin rights to other people, so they can change the configuration and see the statistics. Just like on Facebook, where you can add as many people as you want as developers of the app.

[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to Twitter via TXT outside the US

2009-06-10 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi there, We're working on getting set up in more and more countries [1][2] [3][4] all the time, even in the UK in some cases [2]. Since this is taking some time you might want to check out the blog post where we outlined some other options if we haven't yet gotten to your country

[twitter-dev] Re: Feature request: share the admin of an oauth app

2009-06-10 Thread Matt Sanford
Hi there, This isn't on the current roadmap but I see you opened a Google Code issue. We'll review it and see what we can do. Thanks; – Matt Sanford / @mzsanford Twitter Dev On Jun 10, 2009, at 8:45 AM, Erwan wrote: Hi, I've created an OAuth app, but now it's completely

[twitter-dev] Incomplete profile_image_url

2009-06-10 Thread Kevin Makice
I'm trying to debug a tool that deals with profile pictures, but I am having difficulty with what is appearing in the API user data. Some background, with questions at the end. I've tested with PNG and JPEG, and both are able to use the API to change a profile image, with quick response time

[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API -- /follow /birddog and /shadow also match in_reply_to field.

2009-06-10 Thread John Kalucki
This is a known defect. Quick catch! The fix is easy enough and required for future features. Streaming API clients need to de-duplicate for a whole host of other reasons, especially those who use the count parameter. The service errs on the side of overdelivery. -John Service, Twitter Inc.

[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API -- /follow /birddog and /shadow also match in_reply_to field.

2009-06-10 Thread Chad Etzel
Cool, thanks. I have noticed that the duplicates have always (thus far) come in back-to-back, so I've just started checking the tweet id against the last received tweet id to see if they match. Do you know if that should always be the case (until the fix), or if I have just been getting lucky

[twitter-dev] Twitter4J 2.0.8-SNAPSHOT available - supports OAuth1.0a / PIN-based authentication

2009-06-10 Thread Yusuke Yamamoto
Hi all, A snapshot build of Twitter4J 2.0.8 is available. http://yusuke.homeip.net/hudson/job/Twitter4J/212/net.homeip.yusuke$twitter4j/ http://yusuke.homeip.net/maven2/net/homeip/yusuke/twitter4j/2.0.8-SNAPSHOT/ This version supports PIN-based authentication shipped with OAuth1.0a.

[twitter-dev] Re: Feature request: share the admin of an oauth app

2009-06-10 Thread abrahamvegh
I don't necessarily see that whole idea as a needed feature (why not just create a separate account for the project, and share the password with any team members or whoever?), but one point I would like to see implemented: [...] see the statistics. [...] It would be great if there were a way

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-06-10 Thread AE
Hi John Questions regarding follow. On May 13, 10:50 pm, John Kalucki jkalu...@gmail.com wrote: I'll attempt to answer these questions, but I can only do so with some speculation and humble ignorance. 1) OAuth allows clients to authenticate with the Twitter RESTAPIvia third-party services.

[twitter-dev] Re: PIN response in web-based OAuth app

2009-06-10 Thread Jonathan Otto
Quick fix/patch/hack for the Ruby OAuth gem - just load this after the gem is loaded. A Rails initializer will work. http://gist.github.com/127313 On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Matt Sanfordm...@twitter.com wrote: Hi again,    Nobody is forcing you to use the PIN unless you're registered

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Caliban Darklock
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 8:47 AM, Andrew Baderaand...@badera.us wrote: You should look up the definition of ghetto sometime. According to Wikipedia, it's a portion of a city in which members of a minority group live; especially because of social, legal, or economic pressure - and a minority

[twitter-dev] Greetings all, New Dev (.net) Here

2009-06-10 Thread KrushRadio - Doc
Hey all, thougth i'd pop my head in and say hey. My name is Dan Regalia, and I'm a .net Dev. I'm working on a twitter engine, and a client (names have not been announced yet). I'm really excited about the entire Twitter concept. I have been watching the streams, and I've seen alot of talk

[twitter-dev] Re: Greetings all, New Dev (.net) Here

2009-06-10 Thread Justyn Howard
Start with the API/Wiki stuff. There's an API Status value that gives you the calls/100. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:31 PM, KrushRadio - Doc drega...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, thougth i'd pop my head in and say hey. My name is Dan Regalia, and I'm a .net Dev. I'm

[twitter-dev] Re: PIN response in web-based OAuth app

2009-06-10 Thread Jochen Kaechelin
Am 10.06.2009 um 18:14 schrieb Jonathan Otto: Quick fix/patch/hack for the Ruby OAuth gem - just load this after the gem is loaded. A Rails initializer will work. http://gist.github.com/127313 I still have problems - even with this gist above!! I'am using oauth-gem 0.35. I always get a

[twitter-dev] Re: Streaming API -- /follow /birddog and /shadow also match in_reply_to field.

2009-06-10 Thread John Kalucki
For this issue, and all filtering-driven issues, they'll always be back-to-back. For other causes of overdelivery, duplicates can be scattered pretty far apart. Overdelivery is usually triggered by lifecycle events -- servers restarting, your client reconnecting, that sort of thing. This type of

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-06-10 Thread John Kalucki
I haven't done the math, but I don't think a single prolific user could tweet more than you can consume. Now, if you are trying to consume an inordinate number of users, then yes, you'll have a problem. The Streaming API limits the number of users you can follow, but not how many statuses you

[twitter-dev] Re: WWDC Twitter developer meetup at Twitter HQ: RSVP!

2009-06-10 Thread Joe Fernandez
Here is my RSVP! Looking forward to it. On Jun 8, 3:14 pm, Doug Williams d...@twitter.com wrote: Sorry for the repost. The correct link to the address:http://twitter.com/about#contacthttps://admin.twitter.com/about#contact Thanks, Doug On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:24 AM, AJ Chen

[twitter-dev] Re: Posting to Twitter via TXT outside the US

2009-06-10 Thread Emrah
Hey Matt, Are you working with a special provider for that? Is it interesting for you to have some help to cover Switzerland, probably France as well? Cheers, Emrah Matt Sanford wrote: Hi there, We're working on getting set up in more and more countries [1][2][3][4] all the time, even

[twitter-dev] Re: Incomplete profile_image_url

2009-06-10 Thread Clint Shryock
this part of the API has been busted for a while and is undergoing a re-engineering.http://code.google.com/p/twitter-api/issues/detail?id=497 Haven't heard anything lately on it but assume they are working on it +Clint On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Kevin Makice kmak...@gmail.com wrote:

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 6/10/09 12:25 PM, Caliban Darklock wrote: A very real concern that should enter the heads of those who oppose improper use of Twitter is that there is a very real possibility that the Twitter team will need to monetize the application, and the single greatest opportunity to do that comes

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread Jesse Stay
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 9:16 AM, Caliban Darklock cdarkl...@gmail.comwrote: Every number on a computer is a score. The purpose of a score is to get a high one. No matter how you slice it, a vast number of people are going to play Twitter: The Video Game, where the goal is to get as many

[twitter-dev] Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Twitter already has a few million Dels, namely us, the users. All they need to do is to add a report spam button to the tweet, much like the favorite button. X number of strikes against a tweet, and it is automatically deleted. X number of strikes against an account, and it is automatically

[twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-10 Thread Jesse Stay
How is that different than block, other than terminology? Jesse On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Twitter already has a few million Dels, namely us, the users. All they need to do is to add a report spam button to the tweet, much like the favorite

[twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
The bock takes care of the account level. It does not take care of the individual tweet level. And with block you don't have the aggregation of reported spam tweets that automatically results in an account suspension. Plus, to block you have to specifically visit the user's profile to find the

[twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-10 Thread Doug Williams
We use blocks, DMs sent to @spam (d spam @sketchy_user), and @replies to at spam (@spam @sketchy_user) to help learn about spam accounts. All of these are used as signal in the fight against way-ward users. Thanks, Doug On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote:

[twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-10 Thread Abraham Williams
Tweets will only show up in your timeline if you are following the account in which case they are probably not a spam account. On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 15:05, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Plus, to block you have to specifically visit the user's profile to find the block link. With

[twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-10 Thread KrushRadio - Doc
Interesting concept. That would mean you'd have to add a additional element to each message that would update the spam content by ID. Here's the problem. If you get enough people together, you can flame/spam messages and make the messages go away. Lets say you hard code a number like '100'

[twitter-dev] A Fresh Approach To Follower Processing

2009-06-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Currently all of us are using the delta between a certain follower social graph snapshot and a subsequent follower social graph snapshot to figure out who are the new followers of an account. When doing follower processing, all one really is interested in is the fact that a new follower action

[twitter-dev] Re: A Fresh Approach To Follower Processing

2009-06-10 Thread Jesse Stay
I've proposed this with Alex before, but yes, this would be very useful to me. Jesse On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 4:00 PM, Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com wrote: Currently all of us are using the delta between a certain follower social graph snapshot and a subsequent follower social graph

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread dewald
Jesse, I'd love for Doug or Alex to get into this discussion, but I suppose it's not up for discussion it would seem. I think it is a matter of Twitter, especially the founding members, going through the agony of seeing their brainchild being used in ways they did not intend, and witnessing

[twitter-dev] Re: Follow Limits - a Discussion

2009-06-10 Thread Caliban Darklock
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Jesse Stayjesses...@gmail.com wrote: Caliban I agree - I'm simply proposing that my solution for follow limits is at least a little better for users than what Twitter is currently doing. What is being done currently hurts the legitimate users more than it

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-06-10 Thread KrushRadio - Doc
John, I am new here, but please bare with me.. I'm still trying to understand most of this from a dev point of view. If you are doing an archive/rebuilding/display of the timeline to a database from a client side application, Is it possible to use a query in there like [...@messageid = (max

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Application Usage Guidelines, Please Read

2009-06-10 Thread Caliban Darklock
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Dossy Shiobarado...@panoptic.com wrote: It's obviously an incredibly thin line ... It's the same line you walk as a marketer. On the one hand, you want to provide value to your followers, so they will keep following you. On the other, you want to extract value

[twitter-dev] statuses/mentions API: count,page,max_id bug?

2009-06-10 Thread BCD
Is there a trick to making pagination work with the mentions API call? Every authenticated API request I make to http://twitter.com/statuses/mentions.json?page=1count=20max_id=12345, returns only the 20 most recent mentions regardless of the params and despite what

[twitter-dev] Re: Whacking The Spammers

2009-06-10 Thread Chris McIntosh
That could be a tricky slope think about times like elections where people could get a littl nuts with that button. - Original Message - From: Dewald Pretorius dpr...@gmail.com To: Twitter Development Talk twitter-development-talk@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 2:37

[twitter-dev] Re: New Public Streaming API Resource - Follow

2009-06-10 Thread Chad Etzel
Hi Doc, I think to accomplish what you are wanting, you should look at the REST API documentation instead of the Streaming API. They serve different purposes. http://apiwiki.twitter.com/ -Chad On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 5:46 PM, KrushRadio - Doc drega...@gmail.com wrote: John, I am new

[twitter-dev] Re: Twitter Developer/Founder Community on Ning - Registration Open

2009-06-10 Thread Justyn
I don't consider it fragmentation. We pump this thread into the site w/ links back to discussions and give people another layer of ways to connect and communicate with other dev's. I don't see a downside =) http://twtfnd.ning.com/ On Jun 7, 5:47 pm, Andrew Badera and...@badera.us wrote:

[twitter-dev] Re: A Fresh Approach To Follower Processing

2009-06-10 Thread Doug Williams
There has been discussion of pushing social graph changes through the streaming API in much the same way that Dewald has requested. At this time there is nothing to report nor a definitive decision on if it will ever be publicly available. I know Jesse's use case from an earlier thread but are

[twitter-dev] uploading pngs not working but jpegs do

2009-06-10 Thread jmathai
Using the same code to upload photos I get a 200 response code for both png and jpeg files. The png however does not seem to get saved. It works with basic auth but not with OAuth. Anyone else run into this issue?

[twitter-dev] Re: Incomplete profile_image_url

2009-06-10 Thread Kevin
Thanks for that link. (Have to remember to check the bug list as well as searching here.) I second one a request in one of the latter comments in that thread for some meta information about image changes (*_image_last_modified). I have been tracking changes to profile images for a couple months

[twitter-dev] number of private accounts/ random user sample

2009-06-10 Thread lucy
Hi, I know that retrieving a random user sample is an old question, so I won't belabor it here. Instead, does anyone have a sense for what percentage of twitter accounts are private. I've seen 10% in my samplings, but so far that includes data gathered from search, which won't contain private