[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread J. Dale
Can't you just make the account/verify_credentials call and get back the stuff you need? On Aug 26, 11:08 am, Duane Roelands wrote: > Quitter checks for updates, and like TTYtter it always asks permission > and you can turn it off in the configuration menu. > > If your users have information tha

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I tacitly > accept the fact that they can access any information that the API provides. Fine. Do it to your users and see what they think about that. :) -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Haneda
I agree with your disagreement. The other day I was playing with a service that made a background. When I clicked done, I thought it would prompt me to save the image and I would be on my own to upload it into my account. That is not what happened. It auto replaced my background. I also d

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread JDG
I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I tacitly accept the fact that they can access any information that the API provides. The API returns the user's screen name every time you fetch their posts. For crying out loud, a malicious app could go through and delete your last 320

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Duane Roelands
Quitter checks for updates, and like TTYtter it always asks permission and you can turn it off in the configuration menu. If your users have information that you want, ask them for it. If the information has value to you, offer something of value in return. On Aug 26, 11:02 am, Cameron Kaiser w

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Here's the example: > > 1. You download my desktop Twitter client. > 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account. > 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me > your screen name. > > That's unethical. If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into >

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Duane Roelands
Here's the example: 1. You download my desktop Twitter client. 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account. 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me your screen name. That's unethical. If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into your client and wa

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread JDG
How could using JUST the screen name -- something that twitter explicitly provides to you -- possibliy get your application banned? I'm failing to see how something that is readily available that Twitter provides for identification purposes is so bad, and despite my respect for many of the develope

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Duane Roelands
Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky. It's also likely to get your application banned. If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to register. But it should always be "opt-in". On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG wrote: > I fail to see how knowing the us

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread JDG
I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is "phoning home" or a "sneaky thing". On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek wrote: > > I agree. I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that "phone home" > in the past. > > Joseph Cheek > jos...@cheek.com > @cheekdotcom > > mcdade

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread Joseph Cheek
I agree. I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that "phone home" in the past. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom mcdade wrote: > Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. > > The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't > want to do a whole

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread Duane Roelands
Do what zillions of other applications do: "Would you like to register your copy of [application name]? We promise not to spam you or sell your email address. Registration will ensure that you know when new versions are released and it lets us know who's using our application!" Is this informa

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread JDG
Explain why not? I've written apps that can do it. It's a matter of knowing how to parse the user token responses. If you're using an OSS library, you're welcome to change it to suit your needs -- it is, at its core, the beauty of OSS. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:55, mcdade wrote: > > Thanks JDG

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I really dislike when companies put in a some > sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. [...] > Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side That is an interesting dichotomy. -- personal: http://www.camero

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread mcdade
Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole "i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking". I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user in

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread Joseph Cheek
This won't work for mobile/desktop apps. Any ideas for mobile/desktop app tracking? thanks! Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom JDG wrote: > they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID > are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. > > On Tue, Aug

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread JDG
they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade wrote: > > Bumping on this since no one answered.. > > And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are > sin

[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread mcdade
Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -