[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Duane Roelands

Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky.
It's also likely to get your application banned.

If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to
register.  But it should always be opt-in.

On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
 I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home or a
 sneaky thing.





 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote:

  I agree.  I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home
  in the past.

  Joseph Cheek
  jos...@cheek.com
  @cheekdotcom

  mcdade wrote:
   Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.

   The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't
   want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while
   you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a some
   sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.

   Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I
   guess they don't.

   -b

   On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:

   they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are
   returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.

   On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:

   Bumping on this since no one answered..

   And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
   since i can't search my app's name.

   Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
   using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
   Developer

   -b

   On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:

   Ok.

   So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
   was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
   anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
   like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app
   but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.

   Thanks

   -bryan

   oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples
   suck and mostly don't work.

   --
   Internets. Serious business.

 --
 Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread JDG
How could using JUST the screen name -- something that twitter explicitly
provides to you -- possibliy get your application banned? I'm failing to see
how something that is readily available that Twitter provides for
identification purposes is so bad, and despite my respect for many of the
developers on this list, I have yet to see a compelling argument for that
position. I'm willing to have my mind change, don't get me wrong. But at the
same time, I know that there are chances for malicious hijinx in ANY case
where the user has granted access to a third-party app, regardless of
whether the app has that user's screen name or not.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:45, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote:


 Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky.
 It's also likely to get your application banned.

 If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to
 register.  But it should always be opt-in.

 On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
  I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home
 or a
  sneaky thing.
 
 
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote:
 
   I agree.  I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home
   in the past.
 
   Joseph Cheek
   jos...@cheek.com
   @cheekdotcom
 
   mcdade wrote:
Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.
 
The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't
want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while
you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a some
sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.
 
Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I
guess they don't.
 
-b
 
On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID
 are
returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.
 
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Bumping on this since no one answered..
 
And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they
 are
since i can't search my app's name.
 
Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for
 the
Developer
 
-b
 
On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
Ok.
 
So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the
 app
but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.
 
Thanks
 
-bryan
 
oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code
 examples
suck and mostly don't work.
 
--
Internets. Serious business.
 
  --
  Internets. Serious business.




-- 
Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Duane Roelands

Here's the example:

1. You download my desktop Twitter client.
2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account.
3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me
your screen name.

That's unethical.  If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into
your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that
you've been collecting their personal information without your
consent.


On Aug 26, 9:14 am, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
 How could using JUST the screen name -- something that twitter explicitly
 provides to you -- possibliy get your application banned? I'm failing to see
 how something that is readily available that Twitter provides for
 identification purposes is so bad, and despite my respect for many of the
 developers on this list, I have yet to see a compelling argument for that
 position. I'm willing to have my mind change, don't get me wrong. But at the
 same time, I know that there are chances for malicious hijinx in ANY case
 where the user has granted access to a third-party app, regardless of
 whether the app has that user's screen name or not.

 On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:45, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote:







  Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky.
  It's also likely to get your application banned.

  If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to
  register.  But it should always be opt-in.

  On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
   I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home
  or a
   sneaky thing.

   On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote:

I agree.  I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home
in the past.

Joseph Cheek
jos...@cheek.com
@cheekdotcom

mcdade wrote:
 Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.

 The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't
 want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while
 you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a some
 sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.

 Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I
 guess they don't.

 -b

 On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:

 they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID
  are
 returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.

 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Bumping on this since no one answered..

 And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they
  are
 since i can't search my app's name.

 Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
 using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for
  the
 Developer

 -b

 On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ok.

 So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
 was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
 anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
 like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the
  app
 but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.

 Thanks

 -bryan

 oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code
  examples
 suck and mostly don't work.

 --
 Internets. Serious business.

   --
   Internets. Serious business.

 --
 Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 Here's the example:
 
 1. You download my desktop Twitter client.
 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account.
 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me
 your screen name.
 
 That's unethical.  If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into
 your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that
 you've been collecting their personal information without your
 consent.

Quite. Whether or not it seems logical, it's all about user perception,
and most of them are not going to like apps passing on any kind of data
without them opting into it. Even the version check in TTYtter is purely
opt-in, and that's strictly anonymous.

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- I ... I love you! Oh noo! I don't! -- Awful movie, Ranma 1/2 -


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Duane Roelands

Quitter checks for updates, and like TTYtter it always asks permission
and you can turn it off in the configuration menu.

If your users have information that you want, ask them for it.
If the information has value to you, offer something of value in
return.

On Aug 26, 11:02 am, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:
  Here's the example:

  1. You download my desktop Twitter client.
  2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account.
  3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me
  your screen name.

  That's unethical.  If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into
  your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that
  you've been collecting their personal information without your
  consent.

 Quite. Whether or not it seems logical, it's all about user perception,
 and most of them are not going to like apps passing on any kind of data
 without them opting into it. Even the version check in TTYtter is purely
 opt-in, and that's strictly anonymous.

 --
  personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/--
   Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com
 -- I ... I love you! Oh noo! I don't! -- Awful movie, Ranma 1/2 
 -


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread JDG
I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I tacitly
accept the fact that they can access any information that the API provides.
The API returns the user's screen name every time you fetch their posts. For
crying out loud, a malicious app could go through and delete your last 3200
posts without your even realizing it. You're concerned about using a piece
of readily available information -- one that does not actually accurately
identify you on Twitter since you can change your username at will -- for
something that could probably be relatively benign (Welcome, @user!). Yes,
I know there are malicious ways to use it, but there are malicious ways to
use any read/write API.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:08, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote:


 Here's the example:

 1. You download my desktop Twitter client.
 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account.
 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me
 your screen name.

 That's unethical.  If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into
 your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that
 you've been collecting their personal information without your
 consent.


 On Aug 26, 9:14 am, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
  How could using JUST the screen name -- something that twitter explicitly
  provides to you -- possibliy get your application banned? I'm failing to
 see
  how something that is readily available that Twitter provides for
  identification purposes is so bad, and despite my respect for many of the
  developers on this list, I have yet to see a compelling argument for that
  position. I'm willing to have my mind change, don't get me wrong. But at
 the
  same time, I know that there are chances for malicious hijinx in ANY case
  where the user has granted access to a third-party app, regardless of
  whether the app has that user's screen name or not.
 
  On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:45, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky.
   It's also likely to get your application banned.
 
   If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to
   register.  But it should always be opt-in.
 
   On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning
 home
   or a
sneaky thing.
 
On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com
 wrote:
 
 I agree.  I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone
 home
 in the past.
 
 Joseph Cheek
 jos...@cheek.com
 @cheekdotcom
 
 mcdade wrote:
  Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.
 
  The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really
 don't
  want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me
 while
  you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a
 some
  sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about
 it.
 
  Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server
 side, I
  guess they don't.
 
  -b
 
  On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their
 ID
   are
  returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.
 
  On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Bumping on this since no one answered..
 
  And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who
 they
   are
  since i can't search my app's name.
 
  Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who
 are
  using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools
 for
   the
  Developer
 
  -b
 
  On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Ok.
 
  So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them
 since it
  was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write
 in
  anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I
 would
  like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on
 the
   app
  but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with
 twitter.
 
  Thanks
 
  -bryan
 
  oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code
   examples
  suck and mostly don't work.
 
  --
  Internets. Serious business.
 
--
Internets. Serious business.
 
  --
  Internets. Serious business.




-- 
Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Scott Haneda


I agree with your disagreement. The other day I was playing with a  
service that made a background. When I clicked done, I thought it  
would prompt me to save the image and I would be on my own to upload  
it into my account.


That is not what happened. It auto replaced my background. I also did  
not have a backup of my original background, and now had a background  
I thought I was only testing, in live use. It also had a ridiculously  
large logo in the upper left corner.


This took me by surprise, I was not aware until then that the API  
allowed this. It makes sense now, but the developer should warn users.  
That was a destructive change.


If you want to say welcome @user I would go for it. I may be  
inclined to limit that to public accounts. If the account is blocked  
then they desire privacy. Holding an @username is holding something  
that is public outside the API.


Search google for site:Twitter.com and they have a database of all  
@usernames as well, and they certainly did not oauth those.


--
Scott
Iphone says hello.

On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:08 AM, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:

I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I  
tacitly accept the fact that they can access any information that  
the API provides. The API returns the user's screen name every time  
you fetch their posts. For crying out loud, a malicious app could go  
through and delete your last 3200 posts without your even realizing  
it. You're concerned about using a piece of readily available  
information -- one that does not actually accurately identify you on  
Twitter since you can change your username at will -- for something  
that could probably be relatively benign (Welcome, @user!). Yes, I  
know there are malicious ways to use it, but there are malicious  
ways to use any read/write API.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I tacitly
 accept the fact that they can access any information that the API provides.

Fine. Do it to your users and see what they think about that. :)

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- What is THIS man doing here?! -- Maj. Hochstetter, Hogan's Heroes 


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-26 Thread J. Dale

Can't you just make the account/verify_credentials call and get back
the stuff you need?

On Aug 26, 11:08 am, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.com wrote:
 Quitter checks for updates, and like TTYtter it always asks permission
 and you can turn it off in the configuration menu.

 If your users have information that you want, ask them for it.
 If the information has value to you, offer something of value in
 return.

 On Aug 26, 11:02 am, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote:

   Here's the example:

   1. You download my desktop Twitter client.
   2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account.
   3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me
   your screen name.

   That's unethical.  If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into
   your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that
   you've been collecting their personal information without your
   consent.

  Quite. Whether or not it seems logical, it's all about user perception,
  and most of them are not going to like apps passing on any kind of data
  without them opting into it. Even the version check in TTYtter is purely
  opt-in, and that's strictly anonymous.

  --
   
  personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/--
    Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com*ckai...@floodgap.com
  -- I ... I love you! Oh noo! I don't! -- Awful movie, Ranma 1/2 
  -


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread mcdade

Bumping on this since no one answered..

And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
since i can't search my app's name.

Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
Developer

-b

On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok.

 So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
 was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
 anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
 like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app
 but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.

 Thanks

 -bryan

 oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples
 suck and mostly don't work.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread JDG
they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are
returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:


 Bumping on this since no one answered..

 And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
 since i can't search my app's name.

 Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
 using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
 Developer

 -b

 On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok.
 
  So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
  was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
  anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
  like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app
  but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.
 
  Thanks
 
  -bryan
 
  oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples
  suck and mostly don't work.




-- 
Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread mcdade

Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.

The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't
want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while
you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a some
sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.

Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I
guess they don't.

-b

On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
 they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are
 returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.



 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:

  Bumping on this since no one answered..

  And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
  since i can't search my app's name.

  Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
  using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
  Developer

  -b

  On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
   Ok.

   So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
   was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
   anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
   like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app
   but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.

   Thanks

   -bryan

   oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples
   suck and mostly don't work.

 --
 Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread Joseph Cheek

This won't work for mobile/desktop apps.  Any ideas for mobile/desktop
app tracking?

thanks!

Joseph Cheek
jos...@cheek.com
@cheekdotcom

JDG wrote:
 they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID
 are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.

 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com
 mailto:bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:


 Bumping on this since no one answered..

 And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
 since i can't search my app's name.

 Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
 using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
 Developer

 -b

 On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com
 mailto:bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
  Ok.
 
  So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
  was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
  anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
  like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on
 the app
  but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.
 
  Thanks
 
  -bryan
 
  oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code
 examples
  suck and mostly don't work.




 -- 
 Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread Cameron Kaiser

 I really dislike when companies put in a some
 sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.
[...]
 Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side

That is an interesting dichotomy.

-- 
 personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ --
  Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com
-- The world is not enough. ---


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread JDG
Explain why not? I've written apps that can do it. It's a matter of knowing
how to parse the user token responses. If you're using an OSS library,
you're welcome to change it to suit your needs -- it is, at its core, the
beauty of OSS.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:55, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:


 Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.

 The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't
 want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while
 you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a some
 sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.

 Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I
 guess they don't.

 -b

 On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
  they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are
  returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Bumping on this since no one answered..
 
   And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
   since i can't search my app's name.
 
   Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
   using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
   Developer
 
   -b
 
   On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
Ok.
 
So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the
 app
but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.
 
Thanks
 
-bryan
 
oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples
suck and mostly don't work.
 
  --
  Internets. Serious business.




-- 
Internets. Serious business.


[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread Duane Roelands

Do what zillions of other applications do:

Would you like to register your copy of [application name]?  We
promise not to spam you or sell your email address.  Registration will
ensure that you know when new versions are released and it lets us
know who's using our application!

Is this information worth $10/month?  Randomly select one registered
user each month and send them an iTunes gift card.  You'd be AMAZED
how much personal information users will give up for something like
that.



On Aug 25, 6:16 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
 Explain why not? I've written apps that can do it. It's a matter of knowing
 how to parse the user token responses. If you're using an OSS library,
 you're welcome to change it to suit your needs -- it is, at its core, the
 beauty of OSS.





 On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:55, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.

  The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't
  want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while
  you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a some
  sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.

  Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I
  guess they don't.

  -b

  On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
   they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are
   returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.

   On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:

Bumping on this since no one answered..

And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
since i can't search my app's name.

Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
Developer

-b

On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok.

 So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
 was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
 anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
 like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the
  app
 but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.

 Thanks

 -bryan

 oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples
 suck and mostly don't work.

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   Internets. Serious business.

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[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?

2009-08-25 Thread JDG
I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home or a
sneaky thing.

On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote:


 I agree.  I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home
 in the past.

 Joseph Cheek
 jos...@cheek.com
 @cheekdotcom

 mcdade wrote:
  Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp.
 
  The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't
  want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while
  you aren't looking.  I really dislike when companies put in a some
  sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it.
 
  Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I
  guess they don't.
 
  -b
 
  On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are
  returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it.
 
 
 
  On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  Bumping on this since no one answered..
 
  And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are
  since i can't search my app's name.
 
  Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are
  using the product.  Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the
  Developer
 
  -b
 
  On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Ok.
 
  So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it
  was easier the storing the password.  Anyways I didn't write in
  anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would
  like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app
  but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter.
 
  Thanks
 
  -bryan
 
  oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples
  suck and mostly don't work.
 
  --
  Internets. Serious business.
 
 
 




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