[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky. It's also likely to get your application banned. If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to register. But it should always be opt-in. On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home or a sneaky thing. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote: I agree. I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home in the past. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom mcdade wrote: Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
How could using JUST the screen name -- something that twitter explicitly provides to you -- possibliy get your application banned? I'm failing to see how something that is readily available that Twitter provides for identification purposes is so bad, and despite my respect for many of the developers on this list, I have yet to see a compelling argument for that position. I'm willing to have my mind change, don't get me wrong. But at the same time, I know that there are chances for malicious hijinx in ANY case where the user has granted access to a third-party app, regardless of whether the app has that user's screen name or not. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:45, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote: Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky. It's also likely to get your application banned. If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to register. But it should always be opt-in. On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home or a sneaky thing. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote: I agree. I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home in the past. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom mcdade wrote: Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Here's the example: 1. You download my desktop Twitter client. 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account. 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me your screen name. That's unethical. If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that you've been collecting their personal information without your consent. On Aug 26, 9:14 am, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: How could using JUST the screen name -- something that twitter explicitly provides to you -- possibliy get your application banned? I'm failing to see how something that is readily available that Twitter provides for identification purposes is so bad, and despite my respect for many of the developers on this list, I have yet to see a compelling argument for that position. I'm willing to have my mind change, don't get me wrong. But at the same time, I know that there are chances for malicious hijinx in ANY case where the user has granted access to a third-party app, regardless of whether the app has that user's screen name or not. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:45, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote: Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky. It's also likely to get your application banned. If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to register. But it should always be opt-in. On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home or a sneaky thing. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote: I agree. I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home in the past. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom mcdade wrote: Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Here's the example: 1. You download my desktop Twitter client. 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account. 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me your screen name. That's unethical. If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that you've been collecting their personal information without your consent. Quite. Whether or not it seems logical, it's all about user perception, and most of them are not going to like apps passing on any kind of data without them opting into it. Even the version check in TTYtter is purely opt-in, and that's strictly anonymous. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- I ... I love you! Oh noo! I don't! -- Awful movie, Ranma 1/2 -
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Quitter checks for updates, and like TTYtter it always asks permission and you can turn it off in the configuration menu. If your users have information that you want, ask them for it. If the information has value to you, offer something of value in return. On Aug 26, 11:02 am, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: Here's the example: 1. You download my desktop Twitter client. 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account. 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me your screen name. That's unethical. If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that you've been collecting their personal information without your consent. Quite. Whether or not it seems logical, it's all about user perception, and most of them are not going to like apps passing on any kind of data without them opting into it. Even the version check in TTYtter is purely opt-in, and that's strictly anonymous. -- personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/-- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com* ckai...@floodgap.com -- I ... I love you! Oh noo! I don't! -- Awful movie, Ranma 1/2 -
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I tacitly accept the fact that they can access any information that the API provides. The API returns the user's screen name every time you fetch their posts. For crying out loud, a malicious app could go through and delete your last 3200 posts without your even realizing it. You're concerned about using a piece of readily available information -- one that does not actually accurately identify you on Twitter since you can change your username at will -- for something that could probably be relatively benign (Welcome, @user!). Yes, I know there are malicious ways to use it, but there are malicious ways to use any read/write API. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 08:08, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.comwrote: Here's the example: 1. You download my desktop Twitter client. 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account. 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me your screen name. That's unethical. If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that you've been collecting their personal information without your consent. On Aug 26, 9:14 am, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: How could using JUST the screen name -- something that twitter explicitly provides to you -- possibliy get your application banned? I'm failing to see how something that is readily available that Twitter provides for identification purposes is so bad, and despite my respect for many of the developers on this list, I have yet to see a compelling argument for that position. I'm willing to have my mind change, don't get me wrong. But at the same time, I know that there are chances for malicious hijinx in ANY case where the user has granted access to a third-party app, regardless of whether the app has that user's screen name or not. On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 02:45, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.com wrote: Doing it without the express, explicit consent of the user is sneaky. It's also likely to get your application banned. If it's important to you to know who your users are, ask them to register. But it should always be opt-in. On Aug 25, 11:21 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home or a sneaky thing. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote: I agree. I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home in the past. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom mcdade wrote: Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
I agree with your disagreement. The other day I was playing with a service that made a background. When I clicked done, I thought it would prompt me to save the image and I would be on my own to upload it into my account. That is not what happened. It auto replaced my background. I also did not have a backup of my original background, and now had a background I thought I was only testing, in live use. It also had a ridiculously large logo in the upper left corner. This took me by surprise, I was not aware until then that the API allowed this. It makes sense now, but the developer should warn users. That was a destructive change. If you want to say welcome @user I would go for it. I may be inclined to limit that to public accounts. If the account is blocked then they desire privacy. Holding an @username is holding something that is public outside the API. Search google for site:Twitter.com and they have a database of all @usernames as well, and they certainly did not oauth those. -- Scott Iphone says hello. On Aug 26, 2009, at 8:08 AM, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I tacitly accept the fact that they can access any information that the API provides. The API returns the user's screen name every time you fetch their posts. For crying out loud, a malicious app could go through and delete your last 3200 posts without your even realizing it. You're concerned about using a piece of readily available information -- one that does not actually accurately identify you on Twitter since you can change your username at will -- for something that could probably be relatively benign (Welcome, @user!). Yes, I know there are malicious ways to use it, but there are malicious ways to use any read/write API.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
I disagree. By granting the application access to my account, I tacitly accept the fact that they can access any information that the API provides. Fine. Do it to your users and see what they think about that. :) -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- What is THIS man doing here?! -- Maj. Hochstetter, Hogan's Heroes
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Can't you just make the account/verify_credentials call and get back the stuff you need? On Aug 26, 11:08 am, Duane Roelands duane.roela...@gmail.com wrote: Quitter checks for updates, and like TTYtter it always asks permission and you can turn it off in the configuration menu. If your users have information that you want, ask them for it. If the information has value to you, offer something of value in return. On Aug 26, 11:02 am, Cameron Kaiser spec...@floodgap.com wrote: Here's the example: 1. You download my desktop Twitter client. 2. You install it and authorize it to your Twitter account. 3. -Without your consent or knowledge-, my Twitter client sends me your screen name. That's unethical. If you don't think so, go ahead and code that into your client and watch your users freak out when they find out that you've been collecting their personal information without your consent. Quite. Whether or not it seems logical, it's all about user perception, and most of them are not going to like apps passing on any kind of data without them opting into it. Even the version check in TTYtter is purely opt-in, and that's strictly anonymous. -- personal:http://www.cameronkaiser.com/-- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems *www.floodgap.com*ckai...@floodgap.com -- I ... I love you! Oh noo! I don't! -- Awful movie, Ranma 1/2 -
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
This won't work for mobile/desktop apps. Any ideas for mobile/desktop app tracking? thanks! Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom JDG wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com mailto:bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com mailto:bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. [...] Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side That is an interesting dichotomy. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- The world is not enough. ---
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Explain why not? I've written apps that can do it. It's a matter of knowing how to parse the user token responses. If you're using an OSS library, you're welcome to change it to suit your needs -- it is, at its core, the beauty of OSS. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:55, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
Do what zillions of other applications do: Would you like to register your copy of [application name]? We promise not to spam you or sell your email address. Registration will ensure that you know when new versions are released and it lets us know who's using our application! Is this information worth $10/month? Randomly select one registered user each month and send them an iTunes gift card. You'd be AMAZED how much personal information users will give up for something like that. On Aug 25, 6:16 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: Explain why not? I've written apps that can do it. It's a matter of knowing how to parse the user token responses. If you're using an OSS library, you're welcome to change it to suit your needs -- it is, at its core, the beauty of OSS. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:55, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business.
[twitter-dev] Re: get the id's of twitter users who have authenticated with OAuth?
I fail to see how knowing the user's screen name only is phoning home or a sneaky thing. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 16:20, Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com wrote: I agree. I've seen a lot of resistance to user apps that phone home in the past. Joseph Cheek jos...@cheek.com @cheekdotcom mcdade wrote: Thanks JDG for the advice but I wrote an App, not a webapp. The program runs on the users computer and they auth, I really don't want to do a whole i'm going to quietly send your info to me while you aren't looking. I really dislike when companies put in a some sneaky things to get the user info without the user knowing about it. Twitter really should provide a method of seeing this server side, I guess they don't. -b On Aug 25, 11:44 pm, JDG ghil...@gmail.com wrote: they do. when you get an access token, the screen name and their ID are returned to you along with the token. Use it. Store it. On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 15:18, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Bumping on this since no one answered.. And i'm up to 90 users who authed now but I have no idea who they are since i can't search my app's name. Twitter needs to create a way for Developers to track users who are using the product. Look at Facebook, they have amazing tools for the Developer -b On Aug 12, 4:33 pm, mcdade bmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Ok. So I have my app written, I usedoauthto authenticate them since it was easier the storing the password. Anyways I didn't write in anything special to trackusers(or make the follow me) but I would like to see who is using it since I had about 300 downloads on the app but have only about 58 ppl who have authenticated with twitter. Thanks -bryan oh.. and i wrote the app in Cocoa and the framework and code examples suck and mostly don't work. -- Internets. Serious business. -- Internets. Serious business.