You can afford a version control system?
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From: Adrian Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, 26 September, 2004 9:41 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Surely you use a version control system in a multi-programmer
Of course, if you have PRC and Wintegrate (not just dynamic connect) then Unieditor
can lock (and check out and track) the file you are editing. Just so you know...
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2004 15:16:46 -0400
From: Dave Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
September 2004 7:13 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
One thing I miss from the Prime editor is overlay. All you had to do is
space out to where you wanted to overly the text and overlay with the new
characters. It was very useful when you had a long string
] Comparison Unidata and Universe
IMHO.
They are very similar, with hundreds of differences - whether any are
significant to you depends on where you're coming from and what you want to
do.
They are both M/value (Pick-like, post-relational, NFNN ...) multi-user
databases running on *nix or Windows
I wrote:
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From: Rosenberg Ben
UniVerse BASIC does have some ULT features (for example,
ULT EXECUTE syntax) which are missing from UniVerse BASIC.
Oops.
I meant to say that UniVerse BASIC has some ULT features
that are missing from *** UniData UniBASIC ***.
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Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 12:49 PM
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From: Dawn M. Wolthuis
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From: Dawn M. Wolthuis
You're right about this. My Sister worked pretty extensively with the
internals of VMS and she said when she looked at the code of NT she said it
was very close to copyright infringement.
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From: Rosenberg Ben [EMAIL PROTECTED]
was that UniData was already running
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jerry Banker
Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 8:54 AM
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Goo'day,
IIRC, isn't there a HAL document as part of Win NT4 documentation -
Hardware Acceptance Layer - something to do with hardware and
peripherals that'll work in the NT4 environment.?
More spooky!
At 13:23 28/09/04, you wrote:
Stuart Boydell wrote:
shift one letter to the right:
That'd be the Hardware Abstraction Layer
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Nichol
Sent: Tuesday, 28 September 2004 12:09 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Goo'day,
IIRC, isn't there a HAL
Please post follow-ups to the U2-Community list.
The two primary authorities on the origin
of the letters NT are Dave Cutler
and Mark Lucovsky.
Dave Cutler has confirmed the WNT = VMS incremented
urban legend, but Cutler's confirmation isn't very
credible, and is probably one of his noted
Gordon Glorfield wrote:
I absolutely hate AE. Come on folks, can we please join the rest of the
human race in the 21st century? The eighties are over. Even back then I
felt the old Jet editor was better than ED/AE.
Now, in the 21st century, I use the UniDebugger exclusively for both coding
Surely you use a version control system in a multi-programmer
environment?
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave Walker
Sent: 26 September 2004 20:17
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Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Gordon Glorfield
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Take and give some delight today.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-u2-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Little
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 10:59 AM
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Piers
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since this thread seems to be going on forever..
Yes, it does. But we've strayed considerably from my original question
which was:
What's the difference between UniVerse and UniData?
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IMHO.
They are very similar, with hundreds of differences - whether any are
significant to you depends on where you're coming from and what you want to
do.
They are both M/value (Pick-like, post-relational, NFNN ...) multi-user
databases running on *nix or Windows servers.
They have an
Piers Angliss wrote:
IMHO.
They are very similar, with hundreds of differences - whether any are
significant to you depends on where you're coming from and what you want to
do.
Where are you coming from and where do you wish to go
We are running AIX/D3 right now.
The question has been
] Comparison Unidata and Universe
I didn't voice my opinion earlier because I know this list has a lot of
developers with more experience in both than I do, but here goes...
flameproof suit on
One of the most critical elements in the MV market has been cross-system
compatibility. Companies have invested
Bob,
Why two different products? What's the difference?
The reason for two products is historical. UniVerse and UniData were
originally developed by different companies. They used to compete for
the same market share. In a practical sense, the difference I've seen is
that UniData tends to be
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Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Piers Angliss wrote:
IMHO.
They are very similar, with hundreds of differences - whether any are
significant to you depends on where you're coming from and what you want to
do.
Where are you coming from and where do you
I second VI-Improved (vim, gvim, etc.) as a free download. I've
installed in on my RS/6000, too. The syntax hi-lighting is awesome and
customizable. But for me, one of the most awesome features is its
'many-level' undo.
For those interested in a few basics of vi, I wrote a white-paper
entitled
: Louis Guillaume [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 7:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Adrian Matthews wrote:
Does anyone actually use the editor for cutting code these days though?
Absolutely! From what I've seen, most
, September 23, 2004 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
As a system administrator, my choice is to use vi for my UNIX/AIX duties,
but I find it's quite a useful tool for program editing too. In fact, I'm
the only one in our shop that uses vi on a regular basis. I still can't
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren, Phil
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:24 PM
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As a system administrator, my choice is to use vi for my
UNIX/AIX
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As a system administrator, my choice is to use vi for my UNIX/AIX duties,
but I find it's quite a useful tool for program editing too. In fact, I'm
the only one in our shop that uses vi on a regular
23, 2004 2:24 PM
Subject: RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
As a system administrator, my choice is to use vi for my UNIX/AIX duties,
but I find it's quite a useful tool for program editing too. In fact, I'm
the only one in our shop that uses vi on a regular basis. I still can't
figure
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Subject:RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
As a system administrator, my choice is to use vi for my UNIX/AIX duties,
but I find it's quite a useful tool for program editing too. In fact, I'm
the only one in our shop
look deep within yourself by any means and
immediately forgo digesting the original message.
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From: Jerry Banker [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 2:13 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
One thing
Adrian Matthews wrote:
Does anyone actually use the editor for cutting code these days though?
Absolutely! From what I've seen, most folks who take the time to learn
vi will never go back.
The only thing AE is good for is macro-fixing savedlists of records,
IMHO. It really astonishes me that
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From: Adrian Matthews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 9:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Does anyone actually use the editor for cutting code these
days though?
Yes, our lead
Adrian Matthews wrote:
Does anyone actually use the editor for cutting code these days though?
I've been using full screen GUI editors for years now. I think I'd pull
my hair out going back.
Eight hours a day five days a week.
Of course, I use vi at home, too. By choice.
Regards,
--
Dave Walker
2004 22:10
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Subject: RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
I know this is probably not the highest on others lists, but the UniData
editor is like god next to the pitiful excuse of an editor that UniVerse
provides. I don't understand why IBM doesn't release the UniData editor
Kevin King Wrote:
If the S/A is
paranoid and won't open up ftp access, and there are no other good
transfer tools available, it's easier to open up AE and make a couple
of minor changes
Yes, that's when I use my full page editor written in U2. All the comforts
of a windows based editor, but
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E.
Elwood (CA)
Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:50 PM
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Subject: RE: [U2] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Kevin King Wrote:
If the S/A is
paranoid and won't open up ftp
Goo'day.
Talking of freebie U2 editors, wot about UniEditor from Martin Scholl?
http://www.martinscholl.com/
Very pretty...
At 11:47 18/09/04, you wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony which of the below are freeware?
I'm surprised you asked, but the only freeware editor below is from
mvtools.net.
Group,
I was just talking to someone like myself who is trying to decide
between Unidata and Universe.
We are coming from d3 and mvBase and really would like someone
experienced with both to
give and overview of the strengths and weakness of both - that is
Unidata vs Universe.
Thanks to
] Comparison Unidata and Universe
Group,
I was just talking to someone like myself who is trying to decide
between Unidata and Universe.
We are coming from d3 and mvBase and really would like someone
experienced with both to
give and overview of the strengths and weakness of both - that is
Unidata vs
Robert Paterson wrote:
In the latest releases UV has the AE editor - so you can have the best of
all worlds...
The problem with the comparisons is that it all depends on how you are using
D3 now and more importantly which elements are make or break.
Everyone's shopping list is different. If you
Tony which of the below are freeware?
As far as editors go, there are third-party products which have been ported
cross-platform. In my opinion, anything is better than ED or AE once you've
used a real editor.
- My personal favorite for simple editing is wED, which is the Windows
EDitor built
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tony which of the below are freeware?
I'm surprised you asked, but the only freeware editor below is from
mvtools.net. I hope I didn't imply otherwise.
[Moderator-friendly snippage]
wED from AccuTerm: http://www.asent.com
mvToolbox http://mvtoolbox.com/
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