of advertising
comes up often and applies to many here. I think it needs to be
discussed in the context of this mv.NET/U2.NET comparison.
From: George Land
The problem is how you separate opinion from
advertising and self promotion, how you define the
line between fair comment and something
.
Thanks
Symeon.
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: 13 August 2010 07:48
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Tony,
You are very good at asserting things about which
I'll second that...
Perhaps some of the large amount of energies expended in this colourful
exchange can be diverted to a blow-by-blow feature comparison of U2.NET and
MV.NET for a Spectrum magazine article? :-)
- features
- optimisation
- benefits
- licensing arrangements/schemes
- installed
Solutions Ltd
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On 13 Aug 2010, at 11:07, Hona, David david.h...@cba.com.au wrote:
I'll second that...
Perhaps some of the large amount of energies expended in this colourful
exchange can be diverted to a blow-by-blow feature comparison of U2.NET and
MV.NET for a Spectrum
and something much more
serious.
I am biased, I put the words 'U2 UK Distributor' in my signature because I
own half of the company that distributes U2 in the UK. We are one of
Rocket's largest U2 business partners and we sell U2.NET, we don't sell
mv.NET. I am also a board member of the U2 user group
This discussion is borderline OT but this topic of advertising
comes up often and applies to many here. I think it needs to be
discussed in the context of this mv.NET/U2.NET comparison.
From: George Land
The problem is how you separate opinion from
advertising and self promotion, how you
I suppose I should have mentioned that Inland uses a very heavily
modified and enhanced version of SHIMS (Supply House Information
Management System) for the heavy truck parts and service industry. Of
course, any programs that I wrote for Inland belong to them, and I could
not share them (I
I want to let the group know that I am no longer with Inland Truck
Parts. I am, however, still 100% committed to the Multivalue world, and
I hope to be working again in MV very soon.
Regards to all,
Charlie Noah
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U2-Users mailing list
,
please be specific and avoid marketing rhetoric that can't be
substantiated.
I was quite serious when I expressed interest in (soon to be
renamed) IBM.NET and I've said nothing negative about it.
But I still haven't heard anything concrete to define a real
benefit of U2.NET over mv.NET - nothing
At the risk of sounding like I'm disparaging a competing
offering, here is my understanding of U2.NET. Corrections are
welcome:
1) U2.NET is essentially an old version of mv.NET (a fork). A
license to the source was purchased by IBM from BlueFinity. It's
essentially v3.2.x (?) frozen in
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:29 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
At the risk of sounding like I'm disparaging a competing offering,
here is my understanding of U2.NET. Corrections are
welcome:
1) U2.NET is essentially
In a message dated 8/3/2010 5:51:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes:
The mv.NET forum gets
no hits, in part because everyone gets their answers from their
sales/support people. The same goes for DesignBais, UO.NET,
QMClient, Viságe, FlashCONNECT, and many other
In a message dated 8/3/2010 6:47:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cwn...@comcast.net writes:
There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to access it and I will
definitely check it out.
A few years ago I believe it was announced. It's a Google Group here
George:
What's the difference between IBM.NET (soon to be renamed) and U2.NET?
Thanks,
Bill
George Land said the following on 8/4/2010 12:29 AM:
At the risk of sounding like I'm disparaging a competing
offering, here is
Rocket has improved the process.
2) It has not progressed in sync with mv.NET...
Bluefinity don't develop U2.NET it is a Rocket product
with a development path and development team of it's
own. It won't develop in sync with mv.NET or with
anything else, it is an independent product
Thanks, Charlie. I'm surprised so few in this forum either use these
products or are willing to talk about them. :-(
Bill
Charlie Noah said the following on 8/2/2010 4:09 PM:
Bill,
We're just getting into MV.NET with
David:
If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your
customers.
Bill
David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM:
Charlie,
I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read
-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
David:
If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your
customers
...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
David:
If you're astonished, you may want to pay more attention to your
customers.
Bill
Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Ahhh. The old customer's fault perspective. I like that...I only
wish I could use it myself. :-)
Bill
David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 10:09 AM:
Bill
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 03 August 2010 22:47
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Ahhh. The old customer's fault perspective. I like that...I only
wish I could use it myself
Charles:
Firstly, I never complained in this forum. I only asked who's using
mv.NET, U2.NET, why, are there issues, have they moved from one to
another, and why. I thought I'd get some honest feedback on these two
closely related products. I had no intention of starting anything, just
I hope the turn this thread has taken can be straightened out.
Bill Haskett (Advantos Software) is a valued client of Nebula
RD, and we also happen to be good friends. Nebula provides and
supports his mv.NET software, and we're in fairly frequent
contact. I think Bill made a harmless inquiry and
Hi Tony,
There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to access it and I will
definitely check it out. The more I can learn, the better, and these
forums are a great source of knowledge from the users themselves. As I
said earlier, I'm not working directly with MV.NET, one of our
From: Charlie Noah
There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to
access it and I will definitely check it out. The more
I can learn, the better As I said earlier, I'm not
working directly with MV.NET, one of our programmers
is (and a damn fine programmer he is, too). I was
Does anyone use mv.NET? Do you have any problems; stability,
connectivity, licensing, etc? Is U2.NET a good substitute? I
understand they re-wrote the licensing. What is the U2.NET cost? Does
anyone use U2.NET?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill Haskett
Bill,
We're just getting into MV.NET with Jbase, using one pad PC running a
shop bay scheduling system. We are finding it very expensive, difficult
to work with and a resource HOG. One session took as much bandwidth as
the entire store it's being used at normally takes - one of our bigger
(People offended by discussion of products by those who sell
those products should feel free to delete such commentary. My
opinion of software that I use does not get invalidated when I
take the next step to eat my own dogfood and sell and support
software that I like.)
From: Bill Haskett
Does
, but it is NOT free. [/AD]
-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:33 PM
To: U2 Mail List
Subject: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Does anyone use mv.NET? Do you have any
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