I shall continue in the dark then ;)
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: 13 August 2010 12:48
To: U2 Users List
Cc: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
That would be
:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
> Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 6:03 PM
> To: 'U2 Users List'
> Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
>
> So back the original point - what has been done to U2.net in the past 2
> years, as a var of udt buying fr
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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Friday, 13 August 2010 6:03 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
So back the original point - what has been done to U2.net
mpare.
Thanks
Symeon.
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: 13 August 2010 07:48
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Tony,
You are very good at asserting things about
Tony,
You are very good at asserting things about which you have no knowledge,
putting forward statements as facts that have no foundation.
You and I have never, to the best of my knowledge, met. I know nothing
about you other than as a name on this list and I guess you know as little
about me.
This discussion is borderline OT but this topic of advertising
comes up often and applies to many here. I think it needs to be
discussed in the context of this mv.NET/U2.NET comparison.
> From: George Land
> The problem is how you separate opinion from
> advertising and self promotion, how you d
Tony,
On 06/08/2010 10:16, "Tony Gravagno" <3xk547...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> From: George Land
> (TG: Putting this up top)
>> Please stick to telling us about what you know and not being
>> negative about competing products that you don't know.
>
> George, it bothers me when people do that to
I suppose I should have mentioned that Inland uses a very heavily
modified and enhanced version of SHIMS (Supply House Information
Management System) for the heavy truck parts and service industry. Of
course, any programs that I wrote for Inland belong to them, and I could
not share them (I don
I want to let the group know that I am no longer with Inland Truck
Parts. I am, however, still 100% committed to the Multivalue world, and
I hope to be working again in MV very soon.
Regards to all,
Charlie Noah
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> From: George Land
(TG: Putting this up top)
> Please stick to telling us about what you know and not being
> negative about competing products that you don't know.
George, it bothers me when people do that too. By nature I'm
neither competitive nor argumentative, but as a developer I'm
extreme
George,
Well said and correctly said.
George
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 4:32 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
On 4 Aug 2010
On 4 Aug 2010, at 19:39, "Tony Gravagno" <3xk547...@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>> Lots of stuff...
You clearly know mv.NET but do not know U2.NET or IBM.NET yet that doesn't stop
you from leaping in and making lots of negative comparisons about them.
U2.NET is a product whose source code was origi
> From: Will Johnson
> Did I mention that AccuTerm has a free developer
> license ? Hint Hint Big Hint.
Apples and Oranges. I'm also a big fan of AccuTerm but it
doesn't play in the same space as the other products being
discussed.
> I've sold more copies of AccuTerm because I can
> demostrate
> From: George Land
> U2.NET has it's origins in mv.NET but has since
> been developed on by IBM/Rocket. I understand that Initially
> the work focussed on making it more performant and on
> improving the installability of it.
I didn't know about "installability" changes. mv.NET can be
instal
George:
What's the difference between IBM.NET (soon to be renamed) and U2.NET?
Thanks,
Bill
George Land said the following on 8/4/2010 12:29 AM:
At the risk of sounding like I'm disparaging a competing
offering, here is
In a message dated 8/3/2010 6:47:31 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
cwn...@comcast.net writes:
> There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to access it and I will
> definitely check it out. >>
A few years ago I believe it was announced. It's a Google Group here
http://groups.google.co.uk/g
In a message dated 8/3/2010 5:51:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
3xk547...@sneakemail.com writes:
> The mv.NET forum gets
> no hits, in part because everyone gets their answers from their
> sales/support people. The same goes for DesignBais, UO.NET,
> QMClient, Viságe, FlashCONNECT, and many other
users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Land
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 3:29 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
> At the risk of sounding like I'm disparaging a competing offering,
> here is my understanding of U2.NET. Corrections are
>
> At the risk of sounding like I'm disparaging a competing
> offering, here is my understanding of U2.NET. Corrections are
> welcome:
> 1) U2.NET is essentially an old version of mv.NET (a fork). A
> license to the source was purchased by IBM from BlueFinity. It's
> essentially v3.2.x (?) frozen
> From: Charlie Noah
> There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to
> access it and I will definitely check it out. The more
> I can learn, the better As I said earlier, I'm not
> working directly with MV.NET, one of our programmers
> is (and a damn fine programmer he is, too). I was
Hi Tony,
There's an MV.NET forum? News to me. Tell me how to access it and I will
definitely check it out. The more I can learn, the better, and these
forums are a great source of knowledge from the users themselves. As I
said earlier, I'm not working directly with MV.NET, one of our
programm
I hope the turn this thread has taken can be straightened out.
Bill Haskett (Advantos Software) is a valued client of Nebula
R&D, and we also happen to be good friends. Nebula provides and
supports his mv.NET software, and we're in fairly frequent
contact. I think Bill made a harmless inquiry and
supplier of any problems
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until suppliers become psychic that is !
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 03 August 2010 22:47
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Ahh
that is !
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
> Sent: 03 August 2010 22:47
> To: U2 Users List
> Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
>
>
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Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Ahhh. The old "customer's fault" perspective. I like that...I only
wish I could use it myself. :-)
Bill
David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
David:
If you're "astonished", you may want to pay more atte
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 03 August 2010 16:56
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
David:
If you're "astonished", you may want to pay more at
David:
If you're "astonished", you may want to pay more attention to your
customers.
Bill
David Cooper (Support#2) said the following on 8/3/2010 1:34 AM:
Charlie,
I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read
Thanks, Charlie. I'm surprised so few in this forum either use these
products or are willing to talk about them. :-(
Bill
Charlie Noah said the following on 8/2/2010 4:09 PM:
Bill,
We're just getting into MV.NET with J
Charlie,
I am, to put it mildly, absolutely astonished to read your comments
about mv.NET.
Have you posted this feedback to the Bluefinity support team?
On what basis are you assessing the cost of mv.NET as being "very
expensive"? Compared to what else?
What mv.NET process(es) are you classify
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 2:33 PM
To: U2 Mail List
Subject: [U2] mv.NET and U2.NET
Does anyone use mv.NET? Do you have any
(People offended by discussion of products by those who sell
those products should feel free to delete such commentary. My
opinion of software that I use does not get invalidated when I
take the next step to "eat my own dogfood" and sell and support
software that I like.)
> From: Bill Haskett
> D
Bill,
We're just getting into MV.NET with Jbase, using one pad PC running a
shop bay scheduling system. We are finding it very expensive, difficult
to work with and a resource HOG. One session took as much bandwidth as
the entire store it's being used at normally takes - one of our bigger
sto
Does anyone use mv.NET? Do you have any problems; stability,
connectivity, licensing, etc? Is U2.NET a good substitute? I
understand they re-wrote the licensing. What is the U2.NET cost? Does
anyone use U2.NET?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Bill Haskett
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