Re: [U2] U2 known issues, patches

2011-11-15 Thread Brett Callacher
Thanks for the updates on this Wally, that is very informative. If by 'notice' file, you refer to the Alert link next to each release number, then I can only see this if I log in. This is certainly an improvement but does not really address the issue here. It would seem that the best way we

Re: [U2] U2 known issues, patches

2011-11-15 Thread Wally Terhune
There is a 'Notice' link in the PAM. These are new and only created for 7.2 and 11.1 releases (not older versions). As you point out, it is only available if you are logged in to u2techconnect - so not publically available. While the notes there do indicate at which patch level a fix is

Re: [U2] U2 known issues, patches

2011-11-15 Thread Brett Callacher
Wally, Ok, I can see the Notice link now on 11.1. Have emailed Ask Us. Thanks Brett Wally Terhune wterh...@rocketsoftware.com wrote in message news:0d0b269b9fd7a64687f66c66d6f49fab318b2...@nwt-s-mbx2.rocketsoftware.com... There is a 'Notice' link in the PAM. These are new and only created

Re: [U2] U2 known issues, patches

2011-11-15 Thread Wally Terhune
Note: The Notice items can change. For instance, we had a new problem crop up that applies to all UniData releases - so we modified all of the Notice items to include it. It doesn't hurt to re-check them when considering what patch release you plan to install. The intent of the Notice items is

[U2] LANG=C in Unidata 6.1 (Linux)

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Leckie
Having the locale set as LANG=C causes some weirdness in a linux command that is called from unidata, I know that the unidata manual warns : If you use a LANG setting other than C, note that certain UniData commands may cause unpredictable results, such as the UniBasic UPCASE and DOWNCASE

[U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Barber, Bonnie
Does or has anyone on this list used Mercurial (UNIX) or TortoiseHg (windows) for Universe program version control. It is used currently here at Perseus for our relational database scripts and code. Now management would like us to use it for our Universe programs also. If anyone is familiar

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Tom Whitmore
We use PRC, which is a PICK based product. We have seen a marked improvement in the whole development cycle since using PRC. Tom Whitmore RATEX Business Solutions -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Rex Gozar
Bonnie, I use CVS (currently porting my scripts to use Mercurial) for Universe program version control. A lot depends on your version control paradigm; many software developers checkout their source code and build their software from scratch. This is what I do here; I make changes to the source

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Rex Gozar
Tom, Would it possible to export all the source code from PRC into a flat file/directory format for Mercurial? rex On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Tom Whitmore tewhitm...@ratex.com wrote: We use PRC, which is a PICK based product.  We have seen a marked improvement in the whole development

Re: [U2] LANG=C in Unidata 6.1 (Linux)

2011-11-15 Thread John Thompson
Don't know too much about it, but, I have not heard of any MV system supporting UTF-8 yet. So I would hesitate, to change that setting if I were you. I've heard of vendors working on the issue, but, thats about it. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Jonathan Leckie

Re: [U2] LANG=C in Unidata 6.1 (Linux)

2011-11-15 Thread Jonathan Leckie
Perhaps a more normal LANG=en_GB ? It is to remove a problem with date formatting, so just something that would make the date european would work. From: John Thompson [mailto:jthompson...@gmail.com] Sent: 15 November 2011 4:32 pm To: Jonathan Leckie; U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2]

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Romanow
I use Mercurial for my Unidata source code (which is in DIR files). Have been for maybe 2 years now. I do not try to run a separate working directory for each dev. I basically act as a company librarian and commit all changes for the team. It is not optimum, but it works for us. On Tue, Nov

Re: [U2] Pick history video on youtube

2011-11-15 Thread inquieti
Brilliant video, I have the UK version on VHS somewhere. It was introduced and narrated by Tony Bastable. Lee Bacall wrote: John, Susan Many thanks for that video. It sounds like the narrator is Hunter S. Thompson . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson Anyone know for

Re: [U2] LANG=C in Unidata 6.1 (Linux)

2011-11-15 Thread Symeon Breen
We always have our LANG setting set to en_GB.UTF-8 LANG=C is rubbish if you are going to be using any of the unibasic API's esp xml handling ! Unidata stores utf-8 no problem - as previously mentioned in this list there may well become issues if you use database sorts that include any multi

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Barber, Bonnie
Hi Rex, thanks for responding. Our Universe system is on UNIX AIX and for now Mercurial/TortoiseHg is on each developers PC. Our home-grown check-out-check-in tool is just on the UNIX system. We checkout our programs which creates a Universe file version control log for the 'checked-out'

[U2] [UV] Suppress not found in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread Perry Taylor
Does anyone know of a RetrieVe option that will suppress the ' not found' messages? Thanks. Perry Perry Taylor Senior MV Architect ZirMed 888 West Market Street, Suite 400 Louisville, KY 40202 www.zirmed.comhttp://www.zirmed.com/ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail message, including

Re: [U2] LANG=C in Unidata 6.1 (Linux)

2011-11-15 Thread John Thompson
That's good to know. It seems like every conference I go to- everyone is always asking, When are we going to get full UTF-8 support? I also wonder what the default is on install? Now I'm just curious... Not meaning to hijack the thread. On 11/15/11, Symeon Breen syme...@gmail.com wrote: We

Re: [U2] [UV] Suppress not found in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread John Thompson
Do you mean on a SELECT or LIST? (Maybe I'm asking the obvious) On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Perry Taylor perry.tay...@zirmed.comwrote: Does anyone know of a RetrieVe option that will suppress the ' not found' messages? Thanks. Perry Perry Taylor Senior MV Architect ZirMed

Re: [U2] LANG=C in Unidata 6.1 (Linux)

2011-11-15 Thread John Thompson
Anyway, Jonathan, sorry to lead you down the wrong road. I'll be quiet next time when I don't know. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 1:54 PM, John Thompson jthompson...@gmail.comwrote: That's good to know. It seems like every conference I go to- everyone is always asking, When are we going to get

Re: [U2] [UV] Suppress not found in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread Wjhonson
I think he means as in SELECT VOC SAMPLE 100 LIST CUSTOMER 'A' not found 'F2' not found And I don't know a way to suppress the messages, but I know a way to not GET the messages :) Try this SELECT VOC SAMPLE 100 SELECT CUSTOMER do other selects or other processing now and you won't get

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Rex Gozar
Bonnie, For CVS here, I setup TortoiseCVS to SSH into the linux machine and checkout/checkin changes to the repository. For Mercurial/TortoiseHg there should be something similar, e.g. hg push ssh://hguser@192.168.1.5/hg/, so you can push your changes to your designated repository. Is your

Re: [U2] [UV] Suppress not found in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread Wally Terhune
I understand the question is for UV, but for UDT fans, there is a UDT.OPTIONS setting in this area: ON If UDT.OPTIONS 55 is on, UniData displays the records it finds, but does not display any informational messages: :LIST TAPES NAME V6670 V7456 V4951 V1249 LIST TAPES NAME V6670 V7456 V4951

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Romanow
One thing to be aware of with whichever vcs you choose, pat attention to end-of-line characters. There are some configuration settings in mercurial to say these are always unix files and will not let an checkin from a windows machine inadvertently send dos Ctl-M's. Git for aix is available here.

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Tom Whitmore
Hi Rex, It is all in UniVerse or UniData so I believe the answer would be Yes, I'll let Susan reply since it is her product. Also, remember that PRC will track dictionaries, procs, includes, as well as programs, which isn't possible with version control products that are not PICK aware. Tom

Re: [U2] [UV] Suppress not found in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread Perry Taylor
That's the idea. The problem I have is records are being deleted from the file at all times of the day. What happens is the initial select picks up records that get deleted before they are output. I was hoping there was some option that would suppress these messages. If there is not I'll

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Rex Gozar
Does anyone know if PRC has a built-in feature to export all source code into a flat-file/directory format? Either for the head version or the entire repository? If it does, does it also import? It might be nice to be able to allow on the fly changes to the development repository, and still use

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/11 16:19, Rex Gozar wrote: Bonnie, I use CVS (currently porting my scripts to use Mercurial) for Universe program version control. A lot depends on your version control paradigm; many software developers checkout their source code and build their software from scratch. This is what I

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Rex Gozar
Tom, I keep dictionaries, procs, Q-pointers, programs, and includes in CVS and Mercurial. What do you mean by PICK aware? rex ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] [UV] Suppress not found in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread Tony Gravagno
What I'm wondering as a higher-level question is: how important are reports that are so volatile that they are invalid between the select and the print? Certainly they're even more invalid between printing and the time someone reads them. Another approach might be to do a COPY or REFORMAT of

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Rex Gozar
Wol, Even with DVCS, the convention is to designate one of the repositories as the master so everyone can pull/push (checkin/checkout) their changes that end up in a tagged release. The change in mindset has more to do with file versions in CVS and Subversion versus change sets in dvcs. rex

Re: [U2] [UV] Suppress not found in RetrieVe

2011-11-15 Thread David Jordan
Hi Perry You could use transaction control, where you prevent deletes until the report is completed. For instance a GL report with Debits and Credits need to balance, you cannot allow the database to change in the middle of the report, so you wrap transaction control around to prevent updates

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Tom Whitmore
PRC is written in PICK so it knows about the various types of records we would modify in PICK, and tracks them. Non-PICK tools can read directories, for programs, and includes, but that's it. You would need to create a lot of tools to provide the hooks into the PICK database. Here, when a

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Boydell, Stuart
And just to add to that, also make sure you handle case sensitivity with your checkouts/ins. File names in particular in the Windows environment may cause issues. For example you can have 2 programs under UV/aix called TEST and Test in the same program file (path). In Windows, which is case

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Barber, Bonnie
I will be glad to, if I ever get it figured out. I am still confused by all the new verbiage that goes with it, for instance the statement in the reply from WOL Lists: Except that - iirc (I use git) - mercurial is a DVCS, so the concept of check-in/out no longer exists ... I am just an old

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Doug Averch
Without going in to much detail, this can all be done in Eclipse IDE. I can copy all of the programs from an account to my workstation which can then be loaded into any version control system that has an Eclipse plug-in like MS Team Foundation Server, CVS, Subversion, Git, Mercurial, and Perforce

[U2] Converting an account from UniVerse to UniData

2011-11-15 Thread David Jordan
Does anyone have experience converting a UniVerse account to UniData. I have used the UV_RESTORE. It creates the files but does not copy the data. Regards David Jordan ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Steve Romanow
I think I am about to convert to git. After using both for a while, git is growing on me. It is a less opinionated tool. By that I suggest that is supports more workflows. On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 3:47 PM, Barber, Bonnie bonnie.bar...@perseusbooks.com wrote: I will be glad to, if I ever get it

[U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control [AD]

2011-11-15 Thread Susan Joslyn
Hi Rex and Bonnie. Thanks for the plug, Tom! Yes, PRC could absolutely talk to and from Mercurial. We coordinate the version control of U2 like items to and from other source control tools. Tom developed a pretty tight integration between PRC and Issue Trak, too. The important thing about

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/11 20:47, Barber, Bonnie wrote: I will be glad to, if I ever get it figured out. I am still confused by all the new verbiage that goes with it, for instance the statement in the reply from WOL Lists: Except that - iirc (I use git) - mercurial is a DVCS, so the concept of

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Barber, Bonnie
Thanks I will get a copy of git and take a look at it so we have an alternate recommendation just in case mercurial does not work out. Bonnie -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wols Lists Sent:

Re: [U2] Mercurial/TortoiseHg source version control

2011-11-15 Thread Wols Lists
On 15/11/11 23:13, Barber, Bonnie wrote: Thanks I will get a copy of git and take a look at it so we have an alternate recommendation just in case mercurial does not work out. Bonnie I can't remember where I came across it, and what the differences were, but there was an article some time