Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Edward Brown
Dattatraya,

As others have said it sounds like you need more background knowledge of
unidata in general. Unidata comes with some good pdfs for this kind of
thing - certainly explaining basic concepts such as dictionary items.
Try looking in UDTD.pdf - Using Unidata. This is available for download,
try googling for it.

To answer your question:

You can list the data in the n'th attribute (field) of a file with

LIST filename F1 F2 Fn


These generic Fn dictionary items live in the VOC. The VOC being a
central file defining a whole bunch of things including dictionary items
that can then be used against any file.

If you get a message saying 'Illegal attribute name: Fn' then you won't
have the Fn item set up. You can add it manually by, for example
attribute 2:

AE VOC F2
Top of New F2 in VOC.
*--: I   
001= D   
002= 2   
003= 
004= 
005= 10L 
006= M   
*--: FI  
Filed F2 in file VOC.
:

Note that to enter the blank lines (lines 3 and 4) you need to use the
backquote character (`)- the key to the left of the 1 key on UK (
international?) keyboards.


Alternatively, you can look at data in individual records with a couple
of commands:

Try CT filename recordname   to Copy to Terminal the contents of the
record.
Try AE filename recordname   to edit the record - press Penter to see
lines. Press ? for help on all other commands.


Hope this helps

Edward


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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya
Walgude
Sent: 07 October 2009 04:58
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Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?


The following command is not showing all data columns.
 
LIST filename ALL
 
The LISTDICT filename - Not showing all column names
 
Now, from one of the filename, I have to extract data from hidden 3
columns which I can not see the names of column. Requesting you to
suggest me in such cases how to extract/see data.
I will be thankful to you, if you provide me all steps in details. This
is urgent matter  my work is stuck.
 
Thanks in advance.

Dattatraya Walgude



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:47 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

I think he is getting caught with a file that doesn't have a very
well defined DICT file, whereas with SQL You can't really add anything
to a table without being able to see a description of it.

Life in UV is not like life in SQL.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bauer
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:41 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Along the lines of what David suggested, I would also recoment reading
 the System Description PDF that is provided in the documentation as
 well as the Guide to Retrieve.

 I am not sure exactly what you are asking, but the only way that I
 know of to check the dictionary (in UniVerse, not sure about UniData)
 is:

 LIST.DICT filename

 Which will give you all the information on what data is stored in the
 file as well as information of I-Descriptors, which are virtual fields
 and I suspect that is what has you hung up. The Systems Description
 guide goes into detail about I-Descriptors as well.

 Norm

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Dattatraya Walgude
 dattatraya.walg...@rsystems.com wrote:
  Dear ALL
 
  We are working on UNIDATA version 6 and we need your guide line.
 
 
 
  One of the table is having many multivalve columns but by LISTDICT I
 can
  not see. These columns have data but vendor program is showing all
  columns data. As I do not know column name then let me know how to
 see
  the other columns? May I need to update dictionary to table to see
  column name or suggest any other ways
 
  By LISTDICT I can not see all column names.
 
 
 
  My questions are:-
 
 
 
  1) How to check data dictionary?
 
  2) How to select / extract data form this tables ( for all columns
 like
  oracle select * from )?
 
  3) How to remove extra space from column ( like oracle Trim() )
 
 
 
  Your suggestions are most well-come and waiting for your positive
 reply.
 
 
  Regards
 
  Dattatraya
 
 
 
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Re: [U2] Unidata Indexing Problems

2009-10-07 Thread inquieti

Do you know if this is still a problem (too busy to trawl through the readme
files)?

Thanks

David

Kevin King-2 wrote:
 
 Come to find out the problem was that the user never logged off. 
 Apparently
 Unidata keeps some information about indexes in the file buffer and
 because
 that file buffer was open at the time we rebuilt the index, that session
 didn't see the new indexes we had created.  Once that user had logged off
 and back on again, we're golden.
 
 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com wrote:
 

 Check the release notes. I recall there being a problem with the sort.exe
 program on (I thought) a later version of UD 5 (5.2.4?) on windows. Same
 symptoms. Fix was to upgrade workaround was to grab the exe from a later
 version (6.0.12) and use it. Definately run it past support before you
 try
 it



 hth

 Colin Alfke

 Calgary, Canada


  From: Kevin

 
  We have a customer firmly ensconced on Unidata 5.1 on HP-UX (i.e.
 upgrading
  is not an option at this time) who is experiencing a strange indexing
 issue.
 
  We created a regular Unidata index (CREATE.INDEX) on a normal data
 field
  (attribute 189), built the index, tested, all is well. Another process
  comes along later and dumps a bunch of information in the file but...
 the
  index is not updated! There are other indexes on that file that are
 being
  properly updated, but our new one is not. This is a dynamic file and
  permissions on all of the parts are appropriate, which isn't really
  applicable anyway knowing that other indexes are being properly
 updated.
 
  Any ideas of something I could look for? There are no errors being
 logged
  in Unidata's logs, btw.
 
  -Kevin


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[U2] Migrating both OS and Universe Database

2009-10-07 Thread Louise Blair (DHL GB)
Morning All,

 

Looking for some pointers/information/guidance from anyone that may have
already been through what we're going to be doing over the next few
months.

 

We will be migrating both our OS and Universe Database to a new physical
server as detailed below:

 

Current
Future

Sun Solaris 2.6 (SunOS 5.6)   Sun Solaris 10

Universe 9.5.2.1
Universe 10 (at least)

 

I remember many, many moons ago migrating from PiOpen to Universe and it
was a weekend of hell, if my memory serves me correctly, and I want to
cut down the level of hell during this migration if at all possible. We
have many, many files, programs  subroutines that make up our
application, built up over the last 20 years or so which will mostly be
moving.

 

I also have a colleague that will be attending the U2 University in
Liverpool next week and will gladly listen to any helpful information
any of you, also attending, may have.

 

Thanks in Advance,

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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Israel, John R.
Dattatraya,

What do you mean by the 3 hidden columns?  Are they fields that exist in the 
DATA files but have no DICT that defines the fields?  If that is the case, you 
should determine what program is updating these fields, what type of data it 
is, then build the missing Dicts.  This is simply an oversight on whoever wrote 
the program(s).  It is sloppy coding, but we have all done it at one time or 
another.

Or, as Edward wrote, simply build three generic Dicts that point to these 
fields and figure out what they are later.  Just to clarify what Edward wrote 
about the generic Dicts, be sure there is nothing in fields 3 and 4.  This will 
simply dump the raw data out (so if it is a date or time, you will get the 
internal date or time).

Again, U2 is not SQL.  It is better in a lot of ways, not as good in others.  
Don't get too bogged down trying to treat them as the same thing.  Similar, 
yes, but not the same.

Good luck.


John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Miamisburg, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Edward Brown
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 6:21 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

Dattatraya,

As others have said it sounds like you need more background knowledge of
unidata in general. Unidata comes with some good pdfs for this kind of
thing - certainly explaining basic concepts such as dictionary items.
Try looking in UDTD.pdf - Using Unidata. This is available for download,
try googling for it.

To answer your question:

You can list the data in the n'th attribute (field) of a file with

LIST filename F1 F2 Fn


These generic Fn dictionary items live in the VOC. The VOC being a
central file defining a whole bunch of things including dictionary items
that can then be used against any file.

If you get a message saying 'Illegal attribute name: Fn' then you won't
have the Fn item set up. You can add it manually by, for example
attribute 2:

AE VOC F2
Top of New F2 in VOC.
*--: I   
001= D   
002= 2   
003= 
004= 
005= 10L 
006= M   
*--: FI  
Filed F2 in file VOC.
:

Note that to enter the blank lines (lines 3 and 4) you need to use the
backquote character (`)- the key to the left of the 1 key on UK (
international?) keyboards.


Alternatively, you can look at data in individual records with a couple
of commands:

Try CT filename recordname   to Copy to Terminal the contents of the
record.
Try AE filename recordname   to edit the record - press Penter to see
lines. Press ? for help on all other commands.


Hope this helps

Edward


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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Dattatraya
Walgude
Sent: 07 October 2009 04:58
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?


The following command is not showing all data columns.
 
LIST filename ALL
 
The LISTDICT filename - Not showing all column names
 
Now, from one of the filename, I have to extract data from hidden 3
columns which I can not see the names of column. Requesting you to
suggest me in such cases how to extract/see data.
I will be thankful to you, if you provide me all steps in details. This
is urgent matter  my work is stuck.
 
Thanks in advance.

Dattatraya Walgude



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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 10:47 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

I think he is getting caught with a file that doesn't have a very
well defined DICT file, whereas with SQL You can't really add anything
to a table without being able to see a description of it.

Life in UV is not like life in SQL.

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Norman Bauer
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:41 PM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Along the lines of what David suggested, I would also recoment reading
 the System Description PDF that is provided in the documentation as
 well as the Guide to Retrieve.

 I am not sure exactly what you are asking, but the only way that I
 know of to check the dictionary (in UniVerse, not sure about UniData)
 is:

 LIST.DICT filename

 Which will give you all the information on what data is stored in the
 file as well as information of I-Descriptors, which are virtual fields
 and I suspect that is what has you hung up. The Systems Description
 guide goes into detail about I-Descriptors as well.

 Norm

 On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 3:42 AM, Dattatraya Walgude
 

Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Colin Alfke
Well look at that - you learn something new every day. That'll learn me to
look at the manual/help/instructions even when I think I know what I'm doing
:)
 
-Original Message-
From: Edward Brown


Note that to enter the blank lines (lines 3 and 4) you need to use the
backquote character (`)- the key to the left of the 1 key on UK (
international?) keyboards.


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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Colin Alfke
How do you know? What are you doing that you can see the data that you can't
find?

I'm with the other posters that believe that you're simply missing
dictionary items (the UniData dictionary is DEescriptive *NOT* PREsriptive
like Oracle). 

However, if they are in multi-value columns there are a couple of things
that could be giving you grief:
 1. The dicts are not properly associated or marked as multi-value
 2. You're looking at the file through SQL and the multi-value data is setup
in a subtable/view.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Dattatraya Walgude

The following command is not showing all data columns.
 
LIST filename ALL
 
The LISTDICT filename - Not showing all column names
 
Now, from one of the filename, I have to extract data from hidden 3
columns which I can not see the names of column. Requesting you to
suggest me in such cases how to extract/see data.
I will be thankful to you, if you provide me all steps in details. This
is urgent matter  my work is stuck.
 
Thanks in advance.

Dattatraya Walgude

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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Israel, John R.
Here is an unlikely reason for the missing Dicts (I am assuming they are 
missing):
Whoever created the fields did not want people to easily access them.  For 
example, un-encrypted passwords.

I seriously doubt this is the situation, but I thought I would just throw it 
out.

My vote is still simply missing Dicts.


John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Miamisburg, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Colin Alfke
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:05 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

How do you know? What are you doing that you can see the data that you can't
find?

I'm with the other posters that believe that you're simply missing
dictionary items (the UniData dictionary is DEescriptive *NOT* PREsriptive
like Oracle). 

However, if they are in multi-value columns there are a couple of things
that could be giving you grief:
 1. The dicts are not properly associated or marked as multi-value
 2. You're looking at the file through SQL and the multi-value data is setup
in a subtable/view.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Dattatraya Walgude

The following command is not showing all data columns.
 
LIST filename ALL
 
The LISTDICT filename - Not showing all column names
 
Now, from one of the filename, I have to extract data from hidden 3
columns which I can not see the names of column. Requesting you to
suggest me in such cases how to extract/see data.
I will be thankful to you, if you provide me all steps in details. This
is urgent matter  my work is stuck.
 
Thanks in advance.

Dattatraya Walgude

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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Edward Brown
Missing dicts seems likely to me also. In our system we tend to create dicts 
only for fields we report / select on. File layouts are maintained in a bespoke 
editor, which in turn ties in with the way we use records from these files 
programmatically. So programmers tend to maintain the file layouts and 
dictionaries are usually an afterthought.

Edward

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From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Israel, John R.
Sent: 07 October 2009 15:09
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

Here is an unlikely reason for the missing Dicts (I am assuming they are 
missing):
Whoever created the fields did not want people to easily access them.  For 
example, un-encrypted passwords.

I seriously doubt this is the situation, but I thought I would just throw it 
out.

My vote is still simply missing Dicts.


John Israel
Senior Programmer/Analyst
Dayton Superior Corporation
721 Richard St.
Miamisburg, OH  45342
937-866-0711 x44380


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org 
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Colin Alfke
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 10:05 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

How do you know? What are you doing that you can see the data that you can't
find?

I'm with the other posters that believe that you're simply missing
dictionary items (the UniData dictionary is DEescriptive *NOT* PREsriptive
like Oracle). 

However, if they are in multi-value columns there are a couple of things
that could be giving you grief:
 1. The dicts are not properly associated or marked as multi-value
 2. You're looking at the file through SQL and the multi-value data is setup
in a subtable/view.

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Dattatraya Walgude

The following command is not showing all data columns.
 
LIST filename ALL
 
The LISTDICT filename - Not showing all column names
 
Now, from one of the filename, I have to extract data from hidden 3
columns which I can not see the names of column. Requesting you to
suggest me in such cases how to extract/see data.
I will be thankful to you, if you provide me all steps in details. This
is urgent matter  my work is stuck.
 
Thanks in advance.

Dattatraya Walgude

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Re: [U2] Unidata Indexing Problems

2009-10-07 Thread Wally Terhune
I believe Colin was referring to a problem with BUILD.INDEX during the phase 
that udtsort.exe is used to sort the temp files before applying to the index. 
As Colin indicated - this is ancient history (in terms of UniData releases).

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Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 4:28 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Unidata Indexing Problems


Do you know if this is still a problem (too busy to trawl through the readme
files)?

Thanks

David

Kevin King-2 wrote:
 
 Come to find out the problem was that the user never logged off. 
 Apparently
 Unidata keeps some information about indexes in the file buffer and
 because
 that file buffer was open at the time we rebuilt the index, that session
 didn't see the new indexes we had created.  Once that user had logged off
 and back on again, we're golden.
 
 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 11:48 PM, Colin Alfke alfke...@hotmail.com wrote:
 

 Check the release notes. I recall there being a problem with the sort.exe
 program on (I thought) a later version of UD 5 (5.2.4?) on windows. Same
 symptoms. Fix was to upgrade workaround was to grab the exe from a later
 version (6.0.12) and use it. Definately run it past support before you
 try
 it



 hth

 Colin Alfke

 Calgary, Canada


  From: Kevin

 
  We have a customer firmly ensconced on Unidata 5.1 on HP-UX (i.e.
 upgrading
  is not an option at this time) who is experiencing a strange indexing
 issue.
 
  We created a regular Unidata index (CREATE.INDEX) on a normal data
 field
  (attribute 189), built the index, tested, all is well. Another process
  comes along later and dumps a bunch of information in the file but...
 the
  index is not updated! There are other indexes on that file that are
 being
  properly updated, but our new one is not. This is a dynamic file and
  permissions on all of the parts are appropriate, which isn't really
  applicable anyway knowing that other indexes are being properly
 updated.
 
  Any ideas of something I could look for? There are no errors being
 logged
  in Unidata's logs, btw.
 
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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Doug
Dattatrava,

Unfortunately, when my compatriots are so engrained in using AE/ED,
paragraphs, procs and such we cannot see the forest through the trees.  Let
us as a group stop teaching the newbie's the esoteric commands and have them
use our neat new tools.

The Basic Developer Toolkit (BDT) is free if you are using Unidata 7.2 or
Universe 10.3.  Using BDT would only have to right click on the U2 Resource
and pick the menu item Open Dictionary.

Using XLr8Editor which is available for Unidata 6.0 or above or Universe 9.6
or above, all you would have to do is right click on the file in the Project
Explorer, pick Open Dictionary Editor and voilà the dictionary would show up
in the main panel.

Life can be easy when using tools...

Regards,
Doug
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The following command is not showing all data columns.
 
LIST filename ALL
 
The LISTDICT filename - Not showing all column names
 
Now, from one of the filename, I have to extract data from hidden 3 columns
which I can not see the names of column. Requesting you to suggest me in
such cases how to extract/see data.
I will be thankful to you, if you provide me all steps in details. This is
urgent matter  my work is stuck.
 
Thanks in advance.

Dattatraya Walgude

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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread George Gallen
however, if the dict definition doesn't exist, will those tools create one?

He is still stuck with either sifting through the programming to figure out what
data is put in those attributes, or analyzing the data itself to figure out what
kind of data it is (purpose, not data types).

George

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:40 AM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Dattatrava,

 Unfortunately, when my compatriots are so engrained in using AE/ED,
 paragraphs, procs and such we cannot see the forest through the trees.
 Let
 us as a group stop teaching the newbie's the esoteric commands and have
 them
 use our neat new tools.

 The Basic Developer Toolkit (BDT) is free if you are using Unidata 7.2
 or
 Universe 10.3.  Using BDT would only have to right click on the U2
 Resource
 and pick the menu item Open Dictionary.

 Using XLr8Editor which is available for Unidata 6.0 or above or
 Universe 9.6
 or above, all you would have to do is right click on the file in the
 Project
 Explorer, pick Open Dictionary Editor and voilà the dictionary would
 show up
 in the main panel.

 Life can be easy when using tools...

 Regards,
 Doug
 www.u2logic.com

 [ad] To all of those of you who have not tried our XLr8Editor, free
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 See www.u2logic.com/pdfs/XLr8EditorInstallation.pdf for
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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Doug
Both tools allow dictionary item creation.  Of course, you would know that
if you had tried either one.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 9:59 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

however, if the dict definition doesn't exist, will those tools create one?

He is still stuck with either sifting through the programming to figure out
what data is put in those attributes, or analyzing the data itself to figure
out what kind of data it is (purpose, not data types).

George

 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- 
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 11:40 AM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Dattatrava,

 Unfortunately, when my compatriots are so engrained in using AE/ED, 
 paragraphs, procs and such we cannot see the forest through the trees.
 Let
 us as a group stop teaching the newbie's the esoteric commands and 
 have them use our neat new tools.

 The Basic Developer Toolkit (BDT) is free if you are using Unidata 7.2 
 or Universe 10.3.  Using BDT would only have to right click on the U2 
 Resource and pick the menu item Open Dictionary.

 Using XLr8Editor which is available for Unidata 6.0 or above or 
 Universe 9.6 or above, all you would have to do is right click on the 
 file in the Project Explorer, pick Open Dictionary Editor and voilà 
 the dictionary would show up in the main panel.

 Life can be easy when using tools...

 Regards,
 Doug
 www.u2logic.com

 [ad] To all of those of you who have not tried our XLr8Editor, free 
 trials are available.
 See www.u2logic.com/pdfs/XLr8EditorInstallation.pdf for 
 instructions.[/ad]

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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread George Gallen
Correct, I have not used either.

but even if they do allow creation, you still have to know what the data is,
  it's purpose in life to accurately define a dict item.

Do those programs also scan the entire file to determine what the highest 
attribute
   number is? (I use an idesc dcount(@record,char(254)), then list the file 
by.dsnd)
   otherwise, he may have more than 3 hidden fields.

George



 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:03 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Both tools allow dictionary item creation.  Of course, you would know
 that
 if you had tried either one.

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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Edward Brown
Veering a little off-topic here!

I've not used the unidata dev environment although I edit my programs in
a windows editor, in common with almost all the programmers here, and
have tools to quickly identify and compile up any modified source files,
plus loads of other bespoke bits and pieces that make development
relatively straightforward  efficient. It works well for me and I
suspect a lot of Pick developers are in a similar solution. There's
something to be said for if it aint broke don't fix it.

Also, fundamentally, unless tools like the unidata dev environment are
dangled right in front of our noses and we're told to use them (or
else!) then we're unlikely to seek them out. This was the case with
Subversion - a success btw.

Maybe the original poster would let us know if the suggestions so far
have helped, and if not a little more direction on what he's trying to
do?

Ed


-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
Sent: 07 October 2009 17:15
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

Correct, I have not used either.

but even if they do allow creation, you still have to know what the data
is,
  it's purpose in life to accurately define a dict item.

Do those programs also scan the entire file to determine what the
highest attribute
   number is? (I use an idesc dcount(@record,char(254)), then list the
file by.dsnd)
   otherwise, he may have more than 3 hidden fields.

George



 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:03 PM
 To: 'U2 Users List'
 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Both tools allow dictionary item creation.  Of course, you would know
 that
 if you had tried either one.

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[U2] wIntegrate Query Builder

2009-10-07 Thread Bill Haskett
Is it possible to use the query builder by itself, without installing 
wIntegrate?  I can use the AccuTerm Transfer Wizard via the web; it has 
a .cab file that will install along with AccuTerm 2K2 (IE version).  
The query builder would be a fine product to be able to use via the web.


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Advantos Systems, Inc.
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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
And if you are using UniData 6 or older all those fancy tools supposedly
don't work anyway.
Unfortunately we don't all have the luxury to always work with the
latest release like Doug obviously does.

Edward Brown wrote:
 Veering a little off-topic here!

 I've not used the unidata dev environment although I edit my programs in
 a windows editor, in common with almost all the programmers here, and
 have tools to quickly identify and compile up any modified source files,
 plus loads of other bespoke bits and pieces that make development
 relatively straightforward  efficient. It works well for me and I
 suspect a lot of Pick developers are in a similar solution. There's
 something to be said for if it aint broke don't fix it.

 Also, fundamentally, unless tools like the unidata dev environment are
 dangled right in front of our noses and we're told to use them (or
 else!) then we're unlikely to seek them out. This was the case with
 Subversion - a success btw.

 Maybe the original poster would let us know if the suggestions so far
 have helped, and if not a little more direction on what he's trying to
 do?

 Ed


 -Original Message-
 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen
 Sent: 07 October 2009 17:15
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Correct, I have not used either.

 but even if they do allow creation, you still have to know what the data
 is,
   it's purpose in life to accurately define a dict item.

 Do those programs also scan the entire file to determine what the
 highest attribute
number is? (I use an idesc dcount(@record,char(254)), then list the
 file by.dsnd)
otherwise, he may have more than 3 hidden fields.

 George



   
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 boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Doug
 Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:03 PM
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 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 Both tools allow dictionary item creation.  Of course, you would know
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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Doug
Mecki,

That is not true, XLr8Editor does work on Unidata release 6.0 and up. 

Regards,
Doug
www.u2logic.com

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Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

And if you are using UniData 6 or older all those fancy tools supposedly
don't work anyway.
Unfortunately we don't all have the luxury to always work with the latest
release like Doug obviously does.


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Re: [U2] .Net Data Provider

2009-10-07 Thread Bill Haskett

Mike:

Sure it is. On the main page, at the bottom...


   Related Products


 Client Tools http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/tools/

U2 Client Tools are designed to fully leverage the power of the extended 
relational model supported by UniData and UniVerse.



 U2.NET http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/products/u2-net/

UniData and UniVerse Add-ins for Visual Studio provides an ADO.NET 
provider and Microsoft™ Visual Studio add-ins for MultiValue-centric 
programming in a .NET framework.




HTH,

Bill


Mike Randall said the following on 10/1/2009 10:19 AM:

Anyone have any idea what happens to the .Net Data Provider for U2 in the
Rocket Universe? The product was  labeled as a DB2 data provider on the
IBM site with U2 being part of the functionality.

 


No mention of it anywhere on the Rocket site.

 

 


Thanks,

 


Mike Randall

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Re: [U2] Migrating both OS and Universe Database

2009-10-07 Thread Kyle Moore
Get the new hardware, plan the steps for install/conversion, create test
cases, run a test conversion, adjust conversion procedures, run your test
cases and, once all issues are resolved and documented, schedule downtime,
blow away the target system so you have a clean platform again and pull the
trigger. You run in to the same problems (maybe more because you have time
to find them) but you aren't under the pressure of a downtime window to fix
them. You can also get your users to do acceptance on the system before
the real conversion (spread the responsibility). That makes the actual
conversion much less stressful and more successful.


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Louise Blair (DHL GB)
louise.bl...@dhl.comwrote:

 Morning All,



 Looking for some pointers/information/guidance from anyone that may have
 already been through what we're going to be doing over the next few
 months.



 We will be migrating both our OS and Universe Database to a new physical
 server as detailed below:



 Current
 Future

 Sun Solaris 2.6 (SunOS 5.6)   Sun Solaris 10

 Universe 9.5.2.1
 Universe 10 (at least)



 I remember many, many moons ago migrating from PiOpen to Universe and it
 was a weekend of hell, if my memory serves me correctly, and I want to
 cut down the level of hell during this migration if at all possible. We
 have many, many files, programs  subroutines that make up our
 application, built up over the last 20 years or so which will mostly be
 moving.



 I also have a colleague that will be attending the U2 University in
 Liverpool next week and will gladly listen to any helpful information
 any of you, also attending, may have.



 Thanks in Advance,

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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Mecki Foerthmann
Sorry Doug,

I don't like using ED either, but XLr8Editor probably won't work on our
UD release at work, since we don't even have 6.0.
And for quick data fixes and looking at raw data from TCL with select
lists ED/AE just can't be beat.

Nevertheless at least for maintaining Basic code I use Brian's MV
Developer, and that one works even with UD 5.2 :-)
But since we have an old PRC 3.9 controlled SB+ application everything
needs to be edited eventually using Server side tools to be tracked
properly :-(.



Doug wrote:
 Mecki,

 That is not true, XLr8Editor does work on Unidata release 6.0 and up. 

 Regards,
 Doug
 www.u2logic.com

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 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Mecki Foerthmann
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 Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

 And if you are using UniData 6 or older all those fancy tools supposedly
 don't work anyway.
 Unfortunately we don't all have the luxury to always work with the latest
 release like Doug obviously does.


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[U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?

2009-10-07 Thread Steve Kunzman
I have been talking to a company about some programming work. They are running 
a software package called Storis. Is the source code included with this 
software? What is the GUI front end written in (Revision 8.5)?

Thank you.
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Re: [U2] hpux to linux; Solaris 2.6 to Solaris 10

2009-10-07 Thread Jeff Powell
Just out of curiosity, why are you moving to windows? Are there specific 
benefits?


Thanks.

On 10/07/2009 10:55 AM, jpb-u2ug wrote:

We have moved from Unix V5 on Motorola, to Solaris 2.6, to Solaris 8, to RH
Linux AS3, and are now in the process of moving to Windows 2008.

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Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

2009-10-07 Thread Bill Haskett

I wonder if (when) the U2 Solution portal...

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/display/im/U2+Solution+Portal+-+Home

...and the U2 Developer works portal...

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/views/data/libraryview.jsp?search_by=U2

...will be coming over soon?  I couldn't find them in the knowledge 
base; fortunately, they're still active on the IBM site.


Bill


Ross Morrissey said the following on 9/30/2009 10:41 PM:

http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/ is up, with trial version requests,
certification, U2U, and a letter to the U2 Community

A number of questions over the past couple of weeks appear to have been
answered.

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Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

2009-10-07 Thread Results

Bill,
 I spoke to some IBMers... er... Rocketeers yesterday on that topic. 
They are still porting over tons of web material. While final dates were 
not communicated, they are working on it.


  - Chuck


Bill Haskett wrote:

I wonder if (when) the U2 Solution portal...

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/wikis/display/im/U2+Solution+Portal+-+Home 



...and the U2 Developer works portal...

http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/views/data/libraryview.jsp?search_by=U2

...will be coming over soon?  I couldn't find them in the knowledge 
base; fortunately, they're still active on the IBM site.


Bill


Ross Morrissey said the following on 9/30/2009 10:41 PM:

http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/ is up, with trial version requests,
certification, U2U, and a letter to the U2 Community

A number of questions over the past couple of weeks appear to have been
answered.

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[U2] U2 is now Rocket U2 - what to call them?

2009-10-07 Thread bradley . schrag
 I spoke to some IBMers... er... Rocketeers

Maybe I missed this in the days after the announcement, but has the 
critical question of what to call Rocket Software employees been 
discussed? I kinda like Rocketeers but wonder if they'd prefer something 
else like Rocketers, Rocketmen (gender bias noted) or maybe even 
Rockettes?  g

What do you say, Rocket Software employees?

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Re: [U2] .Net Data Provider

2009-10-07 Thread Bill Haskett

Brian:

Mike could go to the horses mouth and contact BlueFinity about mv.NET.  
It's a very good product at a very reasonable price (except, of course, 
the Reporting Services module).


HTH,

Bill


br...@brianleach.co.uk said the following on 10/6/2009 3:41 AM:

Hi Mike

I raised this with the U2 team when the announcement was first made, and with
(then) IBM in a U2UG board meeting. At that time they weren't able to comment
and even the engineers didn't know what would happen to it.

I have been promised a response when the dust settles, so I'll post then if
nobody gets to hear first.

It is the only part of the product that I can think of that is not separated out
from other IBM stuff. I hope it won't be frozen or made unavailable because it
was shaping into a nice product.

Brian

On 01 October 2009 at 19:19 Mike Randall mike.rand...@comcast.net wrote:

  

Anyone have any idea what happens to the .Net Data Provider for U2 in the
Rocket Universe? The product was  labeled as a DB2 data provider on the
IBM site with U2 being part of the functionality.

  


No mention of it anywhere on the Rocket site.

  

  


Thanks,

  


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[U2] U2 University - Liverpool

2009-10-07 Thread Colin Jennings
Hi all.

I'm not sure how common the knowledge is, or indeed whether I should 
particularly be sharing it out, but there are a limited number of day passes 
available for day 1 of the U2 University in Liverpool next Tuesday.  These cost 
100 GBP (about 100 Euros and not too many more USD at the moment) per delegate 
and allow access to the full agenda of the first day - including a keynote 
speech by Susie Siegesmund (U2) and Andy Youniss (Rocket), the product roadmaps 
and the gala dinner event on the evening.

If, like me, you balked at the cost of the three days but are keen to find out 
the latest about what's going on then I think this represents pretty decent 
value.  You apply using the link below, but make sure that you let IBM know 
that you only want the day pass because the website will want to charge you for 
all three days - there's a comments section that I've used, but I also emailed 
them to be sure.

As Les Hewkin (hello big feller!) said a couple of weeks ago - I'll be in the 
bar...

http://www-304.ibm.com/jct03001c/services/learning/ites.wss/zz/en?pageType=pagec=F531480R19349Q30

Best regards
Colin.

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Re: [U2] [UV] Getting to the OS

2009-10-07 Thread David A Barrett
I can't remember how it works in the Unidata world, but on our Universe 
systems we create a bunch of VOC items called F1, F2, F3, etc.  Each one 
looks a bit like this:

Top of F1 in VOC, 6 lines, 11 characters.
*--: P
001: D
002: 1
003:
004:
005: 15T
006: S
Bottom.

Anytime we just want to see the data in a file without worrying about 
field names and conversions and such we use those attribute names.

LIST FILENAME F2 F5 F7 

or whatever. 



Dave Barrett


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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Mike Street
Symeon,
As a long time Pickie, I thought that I would point out that there is a
short-cut that is supported on most multi-value flavours which saves some
concatenation, for instance :

CRT SPACE(15):AREC.HDR1,1'R#10 ':AREC.HDR1,2'R#10 ':AREC.HDR1,3'R#10
':AREC.HDR1,4'R#10 ' ':AREC.HDR1,5'R#10'

CRT Attribute :X'R#4 ':ARECX,1'R#10 ':ARECX,2'R#10 ':ARECX,3'R#10
':ARECX,4'R#10 ':ARECX,5'R#10'

You can add the space after the format string and save yourself some
keystrokes.

Mike

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Symeon Breen
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:48 PM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

Maybe not exactly what you are looking for - here is a program that will
analyse all data in a file and give a resume of which attributes/columns
have data and what kind of data. You could easily enhance this to tell you
if there is any mv or sub valued data in an attribute.  After running this
you will then know what definitions are missing from your dictionary


* Save in BP as ANALYSEFILE and compile and catalog
* to analyse a data file and give a resume of what attributes are used
* Usage - ANALYSEFILE {file name}

  s...@sentence
  IF Sen[1,4]=RUN  THEN Sen=Sen[5,999]
  IF Sen[1,11]#ANALYSEFILE THEN CRT Verb must be called
ANALYSEFILE;STOP
  FN=TRIM(Sen[12,99])
  IF FN='' THEN
 CRT ENTER FILE NAME ::
 PROMPT ''
 INPUT FN
  END
  AREC='' ;*VAL1= No of blank recs, 2=num numeric, 3= num text, 4=min
length, 5=max length
  AREC.HDR=Null:@VM:Numeric:@VM:Text:@VM:Min len:@VM:Max
len:@VM:'# with MVs'

  OPEN FN TO FIL ELSE CRT Can not open file :FN;STOP
  SELECT FIL
  cnt=0
  LOOP WHILE READNEXT ID DO
 cnt+=1
 READ REC FROM FIL,ID ELSE REC=''
 MAX=DCOUNT(REC,@AM)
 FOR X = 1 TO MAX
REC.NULL=CHANGE(CHANGE(RECX,@VM,''),@SVM,'')='' ;*i.e. all
vals and subvals null
IF COUNT(RECX,@VM) THEN ARECX,6+=1
IF REC.NULL THEN
   ARECX,1+=1
END ELSE
   IF NUM(RECX,1,1) THEN ARECX,2+=1 ELSE ARECX,3+=1
   REC.LEN=LEN(RECX,1,1)
   IF ARECX,4='' THEN
  ARECX,4=REC.LEN
   END ELSE
  IF REC.LEN  ARECX,4 THEN ARECX,4=REC.LEN
   END
   IF REC.LEN  ARECX,5 THEN ARECX,5=REC.LEN
END
 NEXT X
  REPEAT

  CRT
  CRT Analysis for :cnt: records of :FN
  CRT
  CRT SPACE(15):AREC.HDR1,1'R#10':' ':AREC.HDR1,2'R#10':'
':AREC.HDR1,3'R#10':' ':AREC.HDR1,4'R#10':' ':AREC.HDR1,5'R#10'
  MAX=DCOUNT(AREC,@AM)
  FOR X=1 TO MAX
 CRT Attribute :X'R#4':' ':ARECX,1'R#10':' ':ARECX,2'R#10':'
':ARECX,3'R#10':' ':ARECX,4'R#10':' ':ARECX,5'R#10'
  NEXT X
  CRT Finished.
   END


HTH

Symeon


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Sent: 06 October 2009 08:43
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Subject: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

Dear ALL 

We are working on UNIDATA version 6 and we need your guide line. 

 

One of the table is having many multivalve columns but by LISTDICT I can
not see. These columns have data but vendor program is showing all
columns data. As I do not know column name then let me know how to see
the other columns? May I need to update dictionary to table to see
column name or suggest any other ways 

By LISTDICT I can not see all column names. 

 

My questions are:- 

 

1) How to check data dictionary? 

2) How to select / extract data form this tables ( for all columns like
oracle select * from )? 

3) How to remove extra space from column ( like oracle Trim() ) 

 

Your suggestions are most well-come and waiting for your positive reply.


Regards 

Dattatraya

 

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[U2] [UV] Storing / Displaying the Euro symbol

2009-10-07 Thread Jacques G.

Hello,

Anyone here had to display the Unicode Euro symbol  on the terminal ?  I'd like 
to store it in a data item and be able to display it.  I've looked at the 
UNICHARS command without luck.

Jacques G.



  
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Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

2009-10-07 Thread Jacques G.
I wonder what is the marketing idea behind the name Rocket ?   To me it 
invokes late 1950 - 1960's Sputnik/Apollo technology to an epoch when cars 
designs were made to look like rockets, when there was a hockey player 
nicknamed Maurice The Rocket Richard and people watched Flash Gordon on a 
black and white television.

When I hear Rocket I think retro like a  LP Player, a typewriter, a PDP-1.  

Wouldn't one want a software product to sound more state of the art ?

Sci-fi hasn't used the term Rocketship in decades.


Jacques


  
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Re: [U2] [UV] Storing / Displaying the Euro symbol

2009-10-07 Thread Bob Rasmussen
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Jacques G. wrote:

 
 Hello,
 
 Anyone here had to display the Unicode Euro symbol on the terminal ?  
 I'd like to store it in a data item and be able to display it.  I've 
 looked at the UNICHARS command without luck.

If you're talking about an actual (dumb) terminal, good luck with that. If 
you're talking about a terminal emulator, you will surely be dependent on 
the capabilities of the emulator. Our emulators, Anzio Lite and AnzioWin, 
can display the full range of Unicode characters. There are some 
configuration settings that must be correct; we could help you with that.

Regards,
Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com
 company e-mail: r...@anzio.com
  voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time)
fax: (US) 503-624-0760
web: http://www.anzio.com
 street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc.
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Re: [U2] [UV] Storing / Displaying the Euro symbol

2009-10-07 Thread Jacques G.
We are using terminal emulators.  Putty and HostAccess are the most frequently 
used.



- Original Message 
From: Bob Rasmussen r...@anzio.com
To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Sent: Wed, October 7, 2009 4:06:48 PM
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Storing / Displaying the Euro symbol

On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Jacques G. wrote:

 
 Hello,
 
 Anyone here had to display the Unicode Euro symbol on the terminal ?  
 I'd like to store it in a data item and be able to display it.  I've 
 looked at the UNICHARS command without luck.

If you're talking about an actual (dumb) terminal, good luck with that. If 
you're talking about a terminal emulator, you will surely be dependent on 
the capabilities of the emulator. Our emulators, Anzio Lite and AnzioWin, 
can display the full range of Unicode characters. There are some 
configuration settings that must be correct; we could help you with that.

Regards,
Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

personal e-mail: r...@anzio.com
company e-mail: r...@anzio.com
  voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time)
fax: (US) 503-624-0760
web: http://www.anzio.com
street address: Rasmussen Software, Inc.
 10240 SW Nimbus, Suite L9
 Portland, OR  97223  USA
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[U2] I need your eyes

2009-10-07 Thread Results

All,
   Doug Henschen at Intelligent Enterprise has posted this article:

http://intelligent-enterprise.informationweek.com/channels/information_management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220301557

   I have a bet with him that there is enough interest in MV stories 
that he should do more of them. He'd like to see how many unique (not 
the same person looking over  over) page views this gets. Let's see if 
we can show the mainstream some legitimate interest.


  - Charles Barouch, Author

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Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

2009-10-07 Thread Henry Unger
Funny you should ask. Andy Youniss, Rocket's CEO, was asked the question of the 
origination of Rocket last night at dinner, and the short answer was that at 
the time 20 years ago, he liked it.

Although it may feel retro to some, I disagree that it carries a negative 
connotation. One of the leading companies in the commercialization of space 
today, Space Exploration Technologies, uses the term in its material on 
http://www.spacex.com. In addition, NASA is a Rocket customer.

The reason that rocketship has not been used in science fiction in decades is 
for decades it has been fact, not fiction.

Henry

Henry P. Unger
Hitech Systems, Inc.
http://www.hitech.com

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Jacques G.
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:03 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

I wonder what is the marketing idea behind the name Rocket ?   To me it 
invokes late 1950 - 1960's Sputnik/Apollo technology to an epoch when cars 
designs were made to look like rockets, when there was a hockey player 
nicknamed Maurice The Rocket Richard and people watched Flash Gordon on a 
black and white television.

When I hear Rocket I think retro like a  LP Player, a typewriter, a PDP-1.  

Wouldn't one want a software product to sound more state of the art ?

Sci-fi hasn't used the term Rocketship in decades.

Jacques
  
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Re: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?

2009-10-07 Thread Address
http://www.storis.com/

--- On Wed, 10/7/09, Steve Kunzman skunz...@comcast.net wrote:


From: Steve Kunzman skunz...@comcast.net
Subject: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 2:16 PM


I have been talking to a company about some programming work. They are running 
a software package called Storis. Is the source code included with this 
software? What is the GUI front end written in (Revision 8.5)?

Thank you.
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Re: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?

2009-10-07 Thread Clive Hills
I am truly impressed with your ability to find this gem.

What I'd like to know is why the sudden change in the treatment of the
Personal Editions of UV/UD from their new owner.
IBM were happy to let anyone have a copy for the non-commercial use required
in the agreement. I get the impression with Rocket it is now only for
'evaluation'. Would anyone from Rocket care to comment?

Clive

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 9:59 PM, Address mrparkl...@yahoo.com wrote:

 http://www.storis.com/

 --- On Wed, 10/7/09, Steve Kunzman skunz...@comcast.net wrote:


 From: Steve Kunzman skunz...@comcast.net
 Subject: [U2] Anybody familiar with Storis software?
 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
 Date: Wednesday, October 7, 2009, 2:16 PM


 I have been talking to a company about some programming work. They are
 running a software package called Storis. Is the source code included with
 this software? What is the GUI front end written in (Revision 8.5)?

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Re: [U2] I need your eyes

2009-10-07 Thread Kevin King
Nice article man!

On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Results resu...@keyally.com wrote:

 All,
   Doug Henschen at Intelligent Enterprise has posted this article:


 http://intelligent-enterprise.informationweek.com/channels/information_management/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=220301557

   I have a bet with him that there is enough interest in MV stories that he
 should do more of them. He'd like to see how many unique (not the same
 person looking over  over) page views this gets. Let's see if we can show
 the mainstream some legitimate interest.

  - Charles Barouch, Author

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Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

2009-10-07 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
I'm impressed that they actually used the MultiValue[TM] word on this
page. That it is still a trademark of Spectrum, right? I don't recall
them using that when they were IBM, although they might have. --dawn

On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 12:41 AM, Ross Morrissey u...@rossmorrissey.com wrote:
 http://www.rocketsoftware.com/u2/ is up, with trial version requests,
 certification, U2U, and a letter to the U2 Community

 A number of questions over the past couple of weeks appear to have been
 answered.
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Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

2009-10-07 Thread Doug
For those of you using PRC, we have spoke with Susan at U2 University.  She
says if you want to use our XLr8Editor she needs our editor to call the
check out function during edit mode and the call the check in mode on
finish.  We told her that would not be a problem.  She said all PRC's
customer have to do is request that from her and we will make it work.

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Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 12:05 PM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] How to check data dictionary?

Sorry Doug,

I don't like using ED either, but XLr8Editor probably won't work on our UD
release at work, since we don't even have 6.0.
And for quick data fixes and looking at raw data from TCL with select lists
ED/AE just can't be beat.

Nevertheless at least for maintaining Basic code I use Brian's MV Developer,
and that one works even with UD 5.2 :-) But since we have an old PRC 3.9
controlled SB+ application everything needs to be edited eventually using
Server side tools to be tracked properly :-(.



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Re: [U2] Migrating both OS and Universe Database

2009-10-07 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message 
663c35400910071056r188989b1x40a2e0b34083c...@mail.gmail.com, Kyle 
Moore kmo...@mooreimages.com writes

Get the new hardware, plan the steps for install/conversion, create test
cases, run a test conversion, adjust conversion procedures, run your test
cases and, once all issues are resolved and documented, schedule downtime,
blow away the target system so you have a clean platform again and pull the
trigger. You run in to the same problems (maybe more because you have time
to find them) but you aren't under the pressure of a downtime window to fix
them. You can also get your users to do acceptance on the system before
the real conversion (spread the responsibility). That makes the actual
conversion much less stressful and more successful.

Seeing as it's a migration FROM Solaris/UV TO Solaris/UV it shouldn't be 
a problem. Though the advice usually is upgrade one component at a 
time, so you should really look at upgrading to UV 10 on your old 
machine, bedding it in, then moving to your new Solaris and machine. 
That said, I wouldn't expect any problems doing it your way.


Make sure your new machine is configured as closely as possible to the 
old machine, in particular all the paths for the UV system directory and 
accounts directories.


Just copy all the accounts across. Make sure they have entries in the 
UV.ACCOUNT file.


Make sure that anything in the global catalog is catalog'd on the new 
system - I think the command is MAKE.MAP.FILE - this will create an 
MAP file that lists all the catalog'd routines. Run that on the old 
system and go through it - make sure there's nothing there that will 
surprise you.


Then hopefully you're all fit to go! There are some tricks - if you've 
lost the source/binary to a catalog'd routine I'm pretty sure you can 
extract it from the catalog - I'm not quite sure how, though.


Cheers,
Wol


On Wed, Oct 7, 2009 at 4:48 AM, Louise Blair (DHL GB)
louise.bl...@dhl.comwrote:


Morning All,



Looking for some pointers/information/guidance from anyone that may have
already been through what we're going to be doing over the next few
months.



We will be migrating both our OS and Universe Database to a new physical
server as detailed below:



Current
Future

Sun Solaris 2.6 (SunOS 5.6)   Sun Solaris 10

Universe 9.5.2.1
Universe 10 (at least)



I remember many, many moons ago migrating from PiOpen to Universe and it
was a weekend of hell, if my memory serves me correctly, and I want to
cut down the level of hell during this migration if at all possible. We
have many, many files, programs  subroutines that make up our
application, built up over the last 20 years or so which will mostly be
moving.



I also have a colleague that will be attending the U2 University in
Liverpool next week and will gladly listen to any helpful information
any of you, also attending, may have.



Thanks in Advance,

Louise Blair

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[U2] @NV or @VALUE.COUNT

2009-10-07 Thread BraDav
Does anyone know how to use @NV or @VALUE.COUNT in a dictionary, 


thanks,

Brad
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Re: [U2] [UV] Storing / Displaying the Euro symbol

2009-10-07 Thread Bob Rasmussen
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009, Jacques G. wrote:

 We are using terminal emulators.  Putty and HostAccess are the most 
 frequently used.

So you should call them for tech support ... yeah, that'll work ;-)

Seriously, if you'd like to consider using Anzio, we'll work with you on 
that. I don't know the nuances of configuring UV for international output, 
but I can learn.

Regards,
Bob Rasmussen,   President,   Rasmussen Software, Inc.

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Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2 - what to call them?

2009-10-07 Thread Ross Ferris
Boosters?

Ross Ferris
Stamina Software
Visage  Better by Design!


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Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 5:53 AM
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Subject: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2 - what to call them?

 I spoke to some IBMers... er... Rocketeers

Maybe I missed this in the days after the announcement, but has the
critical question of what to call Rocket Software employees been
discussed? I kinda like Rocketeers but wonder if they'd prefer
something
else like Rocketers, Rocketmen (gender bias noted) or maybe even
Rockettes?  g

What do you say, Rocket Software employees?

Brad.
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Re: [U2] hpux to linux

2009-10-07 Thread John Hester

I did a migration from SGI IRIX (RISC CPU) to RH AS 3 about 6 years ago.
I've also done 2 other migrations from earlier to later versions of UV
and the underlying OS just for hardware upgrades.  The only differences
with the OS change were:

1) As others have mentioned, I had to run fnuxi since I did an OS-level
backup/restore.  This was trivial, though.  I just wrote a script that
did the restore and executed fnuxi * in all the UV directories
immediately afterward

2) I had to modify a number of shell scripts due to subtle changes in
some of the OS-level command options.  Most notably the echo command.

There are other issues to consider that I always run into with any UV
upgrade, regardless of platform.  We have a number of customized VOC
entries that differ from the installed versions and get wiped out by a
UV upgrade.  I have a file named VOC.MOD that I keep on the OS partition
where copies of all the modified entries are stored.  I copy that file
onto the new platform and copy its entries into the UV VOC after the
upgrade (and each test run).  I keep similar files for any BPs and PROCs
that need modification to work correctly on the new platform.  It's
typically utilities that end up in here.  IBM changed the number of
digits in spooler file IDs last time, for example, and it broke a number
of our custom spooler utilities.

It's hard for me to give a difficulty rating somewhere between easy and
really hard.  I guess I would say it's easy but time consuming.  We have
a different batch process for the first 3 weekends of each month as well
as a month-end process.  Testing each of those involves wiping out the
UV data on the new server, restoring, and running the batch process (I
change the SP.ASSIGN command so all the spooler files go to a dummy
queue).  When something breaks mid-way, I have to fix it and start all
over.  There's also a fairly long checklist of user applications that
have to be tested.  None of this is rocket science, but it does take
quite a bit of time.  I've done all the upgrades solo, and IIRC, it
typically takes me a little over a month.  Hope that helps.

-John  

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 Subject: [U2] hpux to linux
 
 We have Rocket's Universe 10.2 over hpux 11.11 but are 
 considering moving to a linux box. Has anyone ported a U2 app 
 from hpux to linux?  I am trying to estimate for management 
 how long such a porting might take.
 Just an opinion would be helpful, like 'easy', 'medium', 
 'hard', 'really hard'.
 
 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County
 
 
 
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[U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-07 Thread Adrian Halid
Hi All,

I am trying to call 2 subroutines using the same session in UniObject .NET but 
have an issue when the second subroutine Inserts a larger common block.

I call the first subroutine without any issues. But when I call the second 
subroutine I get the following error.

[IBM U2][UODOTNET - UNICLIENT][ErrorCode=30105] Unable to load the subroutine 
on the server

I only have this issue in .NET and not in VB6.
I believe that the .net UniSession is storing the Common Block variables and 
when I try to call another subroutine with a different common block it fails to 
load.

I have read in another post on the web that people have created a Common Block 
loading subroutine to load all Common Blocks when they create the session.
This way when ever they call any subroutine they know the common block does not 
increase.

This seems a like a hack to me.

I am worried that when ever a developer creates a new Common Block that they 
have to remember to update the Common Block loading Subroutine.
Also we have thousands of Subroutines that may or may not include some common 
blocks.
If a subroutine has the same variable name as a variable used in common block 
it does not insert will its value change.

The other hack is to close and open the session every time I want to call a 
subroutine.
But once again this is not suitable for my application.


Here is my common blocks in universe
- BP AH.COMMON1 ---
    COMMON AHCOMMON1


- BP AH.COMMON2 ---
   COMMON AHCOMMON2


Here are my two subroutines.
- BP SR.AHTEST.CALL1 -
  SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL1
  $INSERT AH.COMMON1
  RETURN
END


- BP SR.AHTEST.CALL2 -
  SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL2
  $INSERT AH.COMMON1
  $INSERT AH.COMMON2
  RETURN
END


Here is the C# .net code
- C# .NET 
    UniSession ahsession = UniObjects.OpenSession(HOST, USERNAME, 
PASSWORD, ACCOUNT, uvcs);


    UniSubroutine ahsub1 = 
ahsession.CreateUniSubroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL1, 0);
    ahsub1.Call(); // No Error on this call

    UniSubroutine ahsub2 = 
ahsession.CreateUniSubroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL2, 0);
    try
    {
    ahsub2.Call(); // Throws and exception 
    }
    catch (UniSubroutineException ex)
    {
    MessageBox.Show(ex.Message); //Displays [ErrorCode=30105] 
Unable to load the subroutine on the server

    }
    MessageBox.Show(Done);


If I write the same code in VB6 using the UniObject for VB6 I get no errors
- C# .NET 

    Dim objSession As Object
    Set objSession = CreateObject(UniObjects.unioaifctrl)
    objSession.UserName = USERNAME
    objSession.Password = PASSWORD
    objSession.AccountPath = ACCOUNT
    objSession.HostName = HOST
     objSession.Connect
    
    Dim ahsub1 As Object
    Set ahsub1 = objSession.Subroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL1, 0)
    ahsub1.Call
 
    Dim ahsub2 As Object
    Set ahsub2 = objSession.Subroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL2, 0)
    ahsub2.Call
 
    MsgBox (Done)




Adrian Halid
Senior Analyst/Programmer
 
IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904)
PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153
Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153
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Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

2009-10-07 Thread Hona, David
What's in a name? BTW: I never liked Ardent Software...thank goodness that 
name hasn't been brought back... yet! :)



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Henry Unger
Sent: Thursday, 8 October 2009 7:26 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] U2 is now Rocket U2

Funny you should ask. Andy Youniss, Rocket's CEO, was asked the question of the 
origination of Rocket last night at dinner, and the short answer was that at 
the time 20 years ago, he liked it.

Although it may feel retro to some, I disagree that it carries a negative 
connotation. One of the leading companies in the commercialization of space 
today, Space Exploration Technologies, uses the term in its material on 
http://www.spacex.com. In addition, NASA is a Rocket customer.

The reason that rocketship has not been used in science fiction in decades is 
for decades it has been fact, not fiction.

Henry

Henry P. Unger
Hitech Systems, Inc.
http://www.hitech.com

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Re: [U2] hpux to linux; Solaris 2.6 to Solaris 10

2009-10-07 Thread JPB-U2UG

A company decision to make everything Microsoft.

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From: Jeff Powell j...@powellclan.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:25 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] hpux to linux; Solaris 2.6 to Solaris 10

Just out of curiosity, why are you moving to windows? Are there specific 
benefits?


Thanks.

On 10/07/2009 10:55 AM, jpb-u2ug wrote:
We have moved from Unix V5 on Motorola, to Solaris 2.6, to Solaris 8, to 
RH

Linux AS3, and are now in the process of moving to Windows 2008.

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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-07 Thread ozemail
Hi Adrian

I don't have problem with named commons.  There is a problem if you update
the parameters in a named common and you do not compile all the subroutines
with the named common.  If you call a routine that has not been recompiled
you get a fatal, named common mismatch.  Is that a possible issue for you.
This is a general basic issue and is not an issue with .Net API.  

Regards

David Jordan

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Re: [U2] UniObject .NET Session and Common Block Bug

2009-10-07 Thread Hugh Yang

Try ahsub1.Dispose(); after ahsub1.Call();

Regards


Adrian Halid wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 
 I am trying to call 2 subroutines using the same session in UniObject .NET
 but have an issue when the second subroutine Inserts a larger common
 block.
 
 I call the first subroutine without any issues. But when I call the second
 subroutine I get the following error.
 
 [IBM U2][UODOTNET - UNICLIENT][ErrorCode=30105] Unable to load the
 subroutine on the server
 
 I only have this issue in .NET and not in VB6.
 I believe that the .net UniSession is storing the Common Block variables
 and when I try to call another subroutine with a different common block it
 fails to load.
 
 I have read in another post on the web that people have created a Common
 Block loading subroutine to load all Common Blocks when they create the
 session.
 This way when ever they call any subroutine they know the common block
 does not increase.
 
 This seems a like a hack to me.
 
 I am worried that when ever a developer creates a new Common Block that
 they have to remember to update the Common Block loading Subroutine.
 Also we have thousands of Subroutines that may or may not include some
 common blocks.
 If a subroutine has the same variable name as a variable used in common
 block it does not insert will its value change.
 
 The other hack is to close and open the session every time I want to call
 a subroutine.
 But once again this is not suitable for my application.
 
 
 Here is my common blocks in universe
 - BP AH.COMMON1 ---
     COMMON AHCOMMON1
 
 
 - BP AH.COMMON2 ---
    COMMON AHCOMMON2
 
 
 Here are my two subroutines.
 - BP SR.AHTEST.CALL1 -
   SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL1
   $INSERT AH.COMMON1
   RETURN
 END
 
 
 - BP SR.AHTEST.CALL2 -
   SUBROUTINE SR.AHTEST.CALL2
   $INSERT AH.COMMON1
   $INSERT AH.COMMON2
   RETURN
 END
 
 
 Here is the C# .net code
 - C# .NET
 
     UniSession ahsession = UniObjects.OpenSession(HOST,
 USERNAME, PASSWORD, ACCOUNT, uvcs);
 
 
     UniSubroutine ahsub1 =
 ahsession.CreateUniSubroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL1, 0);
     ahsub1.Call(); // No Error on this call
 
     UniSubroutine ahsub2 =
 ahsession.CreateUniSubroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL2, 0);
     try
     {
     ahsub2.Call(); // Throws and exception 
     }
     catch (UniSubroutineException ex)
     {
     MessageBox.Show(ex.Message); //Displays [ErrorCode=30105]
 Unable to load the subroutine on the server
 
     }
     MessageBox.Show(Done);
 
 
 If I write the same code in VB6 using the UniObject for VB6 I get no
 errors
 - C# .NET
 
 
     Dim objSession As Object
     Set objSession = CreateObject(UniObjects.unioaifctrl)
     objSession.UserName = USERNAME
     objSession.Password = PASSWORD
     objSession.AccountPath = ACCOUNT
     objSession.HostName = HOST
      objSession.Connect
     
     Dim ahsub1 As Object
     Set ahsub1 = objSession.Subroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL1, 0)
     ahsub1.Call
  
     Dim ahsub2 As Object
     Set ahsub2 = objSession.Subroutine(SR.AHTEST.CALL2, 0)
     ahsub2.Call
  
     MsgBox (Done)
 
 
 
 
 Adrian Halid
 Senior Analyst/Programmer
  
 IT Vision Australia Pty Ltd (ABN: 34 309 336 904)
 PO Box 881, Canning Bridge WA 6153
 Level 3, Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, Applecross, WA, 6153
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Re: [U2] Security Measure. WAS: Migrating both OS and Universe Database

2009-10-07 Thread Karl Pearson

On Wed, October 7, 2009 4:28 pm, Anthony W. Youngman wrote:
 In message
 663c35400910071056r188989b1x40a2e0b34083c...@mail.gmail.com, Kyle
 Moore kmo...@mooreimages.com writes

 lots deleted 

 Just copy all the accounts across. Make sure they have entries in the
 UV.ACCOUNT file.

If all the accounts are in the same directory, in the same filesystem,
they don't need to be entered into UV.ACCOUNT. That's an 'undocumented
feature' of UV that has been exploited to allow for privacy between
accounts. If you have

/u1/uvclientaccts1/...
/u1(or 2, etc.)/uvclientaccts2/...

and in each directory, several accounts setup, including source
code/object code, database and application, the users who are in
uvclientaccts1 can't logto the accounts in uvclientaccts2 without an
absolute path and using the CHDIR command to do it. If you disable the
CHDIR command (put a wrapper around it, for example) and DO NOT enter
the accounts into UV.ACCOUNT, you have virtual account/client
separation, thus meeting many security requirements. You have to _wrap_
SH, etc. too, of course.

Just an FYI.

Karl




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Re: [U2] hpux to linux

2009-10-07 Thread Karl Pearson
My apologies. It should be ipcs in every case, not icps...

KLP

On Wed, October 7, 2009 11:37 pm, Karl Pearson wrote:
 One other gotcha from traditional Unix to Linux, for administrators, is
 the icps command, which didn't use to exist, and which took 2 commands
 to replicate on Linux. I used the ipcs -mop command to retrieve
 information about the shared memory segments being used. The command in
 Linux doesn't use those switches. Your mileage may vary.

 Does anyone know for sure? I'm about the leave the U2 world as work is
 taking me a different direction. Actually, I was laid off and am seeking
 employment and it seems the opportunities in the U2 field are almost
 non-existent for someone who has to stay around to care for aging
 parents.

 Karl

 On Wed, October 7, 2009 7:58 pm, John Hester wrote:

 I did a migration from SGI IRIX (RISC CPU) to RH AS 3 about 6 years
 ago.
 I've also done 2 other migrations from earlier to later versions of UV
 and the underlying OS just for hardware upgrades.  The only
 differences
 with the OS change were:

 1) As others have mentioned, I had to run fnuxi since I did an
 OS-level
 backup/restore.  This was trivial, though.  I just wrote a script that
 did the restore and executed fnuxi * in all the UV directories
 immediately afterward

 2) I had to modify a number of shell scripts due to subtle changes in
 some of the OS-level command options.  Most notably the echo
 command.

 There are other issues to consider that I always run into with any UV
 upgrade, regardless of platform.  We have a number of customized VOC
 entries that differ from the installed versions and get wiped out by a
 UV upgrade.  I have a file named VOC.MOD that I keep on the OS
 partition
 where copies of all the modified entries are stored.  I copy that file
 onto the new platform and copy its entries into the UV VOC after the
 upgrade (and each test run).  I keep similar files for any BPs and
 PROCs
 that need modification to work correctly on the new platform.  It's
 typically utilities that end up in here.  IBM changed the number of
 digits in spooler file IDs last time, for example, and it broke a
 number
 of our custom spooler utilities.

 It's hard for me to give a difficulty rating somewhere between easy
 and
 really hard.  I guess I would say it's easy but time consuming.  We
 have
 a different batch process for the first 3 weekends of each month as
 well
 as a month-end process.  Testing each of those involves wiping out the
 UV data on the new server, restoring, and running the batch process (I
 change the SP.ASSIGN command so all the spooler files go to a dummy
 queue).  When something breaks mid-way, I have to fix it and start all
 over.  There's also a fairly long checklist of user applications that
 have to be tested.  None of this is rocket science, but it does take
 quite a bit of time.  I've done all the upgrades solo, and IIRC, it
 typically takes me a little over a month.  Hope that helps.

 -John

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 From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
 [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of
 Oaks, Harold
 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 9:38 AM
 To: U2 Users List
 Subject: [U2] hpux to linux

 We have Rocket's Universe 10.2 over hpux 11.11 but are
 considering moving to a linux box. Has anyone ported a U2 app
 from hpux to linux?  I am trying to estimate for management
 how long such a porting might take.
 Just an opinion would be helpful, like 'easy', 'medium',
 'hard', 'really hard'.

 Thanks-
 Harold Oaks
 Clark County



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