[U2] UV 9.6.2.1/uvbackup questions

[Bob Wyatt]

I ran into a client with UniVerse 9.6.2.1 on Windows 2000 Server with SP4.

It looks like uvbackup does some strange things on this system, and I'm
wondering if someone may have seen this or know how to change it.

 

The uvbackup command is essentially uvbackup -f -limit 1 -v -s logfile -t
z:\backupfile.img -walk d:\uvdb\accounts

The backup starts at 10 P.M., and finishes around 7 A.M. for a 37 GB
database resulting in a 28.4 GB backup image file.

The z:\backupfile.img file is a remote server path for the backup only.

 

For the entire 9 hours, z:\backupfile.img file never exists - it doesn't get
created until the job is done, it runs out of resources, or falls into some
error that causes uvbackup to ask to continue with the current file, change
the file, or quit.

The z: location still has plenty of disk space - more than triple the space
needed. It happens with or without the -limit 1 argument.

The next day, it may run fine - completes the backup without error. 

 

The hardware is a 3.06 GHz Xeon processor with 3 GB of memory, SATA-1 drives
on a RAID controller in a RAID-5 array (doing over 400 MB/sec transfer speed
on Reads), and the network is 1 Gb.

 

Has anyone noticed that their backup file does not (or did not) grow or
exist until the backup is done?

Does anyone know of a way to convince uvbackup to use the target file
immediately without awaiting completion?

Does anyone know if this happens in newer UniVerse releases this same way?

 

Lastly, if d:\uvdb\accounts has a few accounts I don't want to back up, it
looks like I cannot skip them in the backup unless I create a file with a
list of all of the files I want to back up.

This would be several hundred thousand files, and there are new files
created every day. And I can't move the accounts I don't care about.

I was thinking about SourceForge findutils, but am wondering if someone has
experience with this or similar Windows find utilities and uvbackup?

 

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

 

Bob Wyatt

 

 

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Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

[Boydell, Stuart]

I use the documentation search features regularly. The main document 
(bkshelf.pdf) and index rely on relative structure. So, if you were to scatter 
the documents about your system at random, then it probably wouldn't work. Keep 
the basic structure intact and you can move them anywhere you like.
It's not difficult.
Cheers,
Stu

-Original Message-
On 13/09/11 02:13, Boydell, Stuart wrote:
> For future reference, the doc set comes with a full-text index (the .pdx 
> file) that allows you to search (words, phrases, etc) across all the docs in 
> the set.
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Acrobat/8.0/Standard/help.html?content=WS5
> 8a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7c3d.html

And, iirc, the path names are hard-coded in the documents, so if you want to 
install in YOUR standard location, not UV's, the search function doesn't work 
...

I know I've never tried very hard, but I've never bothered with the complete 
index precisely because every time I tried to use it, it was useless, for 
whatever reason.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7

[John Thompson]

If you are running Universe 10, I doubt the version 11 driver will
work.  Let me know as I am in the same boat.  I have not had time to
try it.

On 9/13/11, Chris Austin  wrote:
>
> Thanks Glenn, I will give this a try in the morning!
>
> Chris
>
>> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:48:26 +0200
>> From: u...@glennsallis.de
>> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>> Subject: Re: [U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7
>>
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> I suggest you download the latest client software package from the
>> Rocket site. The latest release is 11.1A which should be 64 bit windows
>> compatible.
>>
>> https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/u2bcesdinternal.asp?pid=10037293&product=UVCLIENT
>>
>> 
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Glenn Sallis
>>
>> Am 13.09.2011 23:17, schrieb Chris Austin:
>> > I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7 and trying to install the ODBC
>> > driver that came with the UniVerse 10.1 client disk but
>> > I keep getting a message when I run the INSTALL application. The error
>> > states:
>> >
>> > 'The version of this file is not compatible with the version of windows
>> > you're running. Check your computers system information to see
>> > whether you need a 32-bit or 64-bit version of the program'
>> >
>> > Where can I download the 64-bit version of the UniVerse ODBC drivers?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Chris
>> >
>> >
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Re: [U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7

[Chris Austin]

Thanks Glenn, I will give this a try in the morning!

Chris

> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:48:26 +0200
> From: u...@glennsallis.de
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> I suggest you download the latest client software package from the 
> Rocket site. The latest release is 11.1A which should be 64 bit windows 
> compatible.
> 
> https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/u2bcesdinternal.asp?pid=10037293&product=UVCLIENT
>  
> 
> 
> Kind regards
> Glenn Sallis
> 
> Am 13.09.2011 23:17, schrieb Chris Austin:
> > I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7 and trying to install the ODBC 
> > driver that came with the UniVerse 10.1 client disk but
> > I keep getting a message when I run the INSTALL application. The error 
> > states:
> >
> > 'The version of this file is not compatible with the version of windows 
> > you're running. Check your computers system information to see
> > whether you need a 32-bit or 64-bit version of the program'
> >
> > Where can I download the 64-bit version of the UniVerse ODBC drivers?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > 
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Re: [U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7

[Glenn Sallis]

Hi Chris,

I suggest you download the latest client software package from the 
Rocket site. The latest release is 11.1A which should be 64 bit windows 
compatible.


https://u2tc.rocketsoftware.com/u2bcesdinternal.asp?pid=10037293&product=UVCLIENT 



Kind regards
Glenn Sallis

Am 13.09.2011 23:17, schrieb Chris Austin:

I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7 and trying to install the ODBC driver 
that came with the UniVerse 10.1 client disk but
I keep getting a message when I run the INSTALL application. The error states:

'The version of this file is not compatible with the version of windows you're 
running. Check your computers system information to see
whether you need a 32-bit or 64-bit version of the program'

Where can I download the 64-bit version of the UniVerse ODBC drivers?

Thanks,

Chris


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Re: [U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7

[Steve Romanow]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:17 PM, Chris Austin  wrote:
>
> I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7 and trying to install the ODBC 
> driver that came with the UniVerse 10.1 client disk but
> I keep getting a message when I run the INSTALL application. The error states:
>
> 'The version of this file is not compatible with the version of windows 
> you're running. Check your computers system information to see
> whether you need a 32-bit or 64-bit version of the program'
>
> Where can I download the 64-bit version of the UniVerse ODBC drivers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
>
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We just had a thread run through here that addresses this.  It may
have been my prelude user group ML, anyways.

IIRC, there is a 32bit odbc manager that ships with win7 64bit.

You have to use it to manage the driver.

Here is a thread that discusses this point.

http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en/w7itproui/thread/0176b9d1-eef5-4c1c-ab3d-4b481ad6761a
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[U2] 64-bit ODBC driver for win 7

[Chris Austin]

I'm running a 64-bit version of Windows 7 and trying to install the ODBC driver 
that came with the UniVerse 10.1 client disk but
I keep getting a message when I run the INSTALL application. The error states:

'The version of this file is not compatible with the version of windows you're 
running. Check your computers system information to see
whether you need a 32-bit or 64-bit version of the program'

Where can I download the 64-bit version of the UniVerse ODBC drivers? 

Thanks,

Chris

  
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Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

[John Thompson]

Symeon might have been referring to the *nix world.

Windows is probably a different animal.

In the *nix world, you could add some additional functionality to the script
that actually starts U2, which is an operating system shell script.

I remember the coldstart stuff on our old Ultimate System.  Its funny, you
gain some, you lose some as new technology rolls along.  Its all based on
what the software engineers perceive you "needing"

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Bill Haskett wrote:

> Really?   I could only find a "startud.exe" in our UDT bin directory on our
> Windows 2008 R2 machine, but no script.  I seem to remember, in Pick, there
> was the "user-coldstart" item that always ran just after the
> "system-coldstart", which ran just as the dbms came up.  Consequently, all
> start functionality could be contained within the dbms and wouldn't ever
> depend on the platform.
>
> I could be wrong though...it's been known to happen more often than I care
> to remember.  :-)
>
> Bill
>
> --**--**
> 
> - Original Message -
> *From:* syme...@gmail.com
> *To:* 'U2 Users List' 
> *Date:* 9/13/2011 12:30 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
>
>  Not sure if it is the same with uv, but with ud - the startup script is
>> 'startud', this is just a script and you can add commands to the bottom.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 
>> u2-users-bounces@listserver.**u2ug.org
>> [mailto:u2-users-bounces@**listserver.u2ug.org]
>> On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
>> Sent: 13 September 2011 17:45
>> To: U2 Users List
>> Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
>>
>> I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then
>> these things would run every time U2 starts!  Instead, we have to futz
>> around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S,
>> then these things have to be manually started.  I've gotten used to the
>> idea that if I want to restart U2 I  have to restart the O/S.  :-(
>>
>> I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of
>> those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers.  :-)
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> --**--**
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> *From:* wjhon...@aol.com
>> *To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
>> *Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM
>> *Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
>>
>>> Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make
>>>
>> them start at boot time.
>>
>>> Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe
>>> starts?
>>> I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under
>>>
>> *nix or Windows).
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Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

[Bill Haskett]

Really?   I could only find a "startud.exe" in our UDT bin directory on 
our Windows 2008 R2 machine, but no script.  I seem to remember, in 
Pick, there was the "user-coldstart" item that always ran just after the 
"system-coldstart", which ran just as the dbms came up.  Consequently, 
all start functionality could be contained within the dbms and wouldn't 
ever depend on the platform.


I could be wrong though...it's been known to happen more often than I 
care to remember.  :-)


Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* syme...@gmail.com
*To:* 'U2 Users List' 
*Date:* 9/13/2011 12:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

Not sure if it is the same with uv, but with ud - the startup script is
'startud', this is just a script and you can add commands to the bottom.



-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 13 September 2011 17:45
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then
these things would run every time U2 starts!  Instead, we have to futz
around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S,
then these things have to be manually started.  I've gotten used to the
idea that if I want to restart U2 I  have to restart the O/S.  :-(

I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of
those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers.  :-)

Bill


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*From:* wjhon...@aol.com
*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM
*Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make

them start at boot time.

Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts?
I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under

*nix or Windows).

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Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

[Symeon Breen]

Not sure if it is the same with uv, but with ud - the startup script is
'startud', this is just a script and you can add commands to the bottom.



-Original Message-
From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org
[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett
Sent: 13 September 2011 17:45
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then 
these things would run every time U2 starts!  Instead, we have to futz 
around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S, 
then these things have to be manually started.  I've gotten used to the 
idea that if I want to restart U2 I  have to restart the O/S.  :-(

I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of 
those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers.  :-)

Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* wjhon...@aol.com
*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM
*Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows
> Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make
them start at boot time.
>
>
> Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts?
> I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under
*nix or Windows).

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Re: [U2] Ardent programmers

[Ed Clark]

could be someone who learned on unidata too. unidata supports proc, but there 
doesn't appear to be a manual for it (If anyone has one, can I get a copy?). If 
you were doing new development on unidata, you may easily never have seen a 
proc.

On Sep 13, 2011, at 12:56 PM, Wols Lists wrote:

> On 09/09/11 20:53, Wjhonson wrote:
>> 
>> By the way, I today, for the first time in my career, encountered a seasoned 
>> Pick BASIC programmer, conversant with Paragraphs, but who did not know what 
>> Proc was.  Never heard of it.
>> 
> That could easily be true of any BASIC programmer who learnt on Primes.
> Actually, that sounds almost certainly like that's the case, seeing as
> PAragraphs first appeared on Prime, specifically as the replacement for
> PROC.
> 
> INFORMATION only (officially) got PROC when it was already on its death
> bed ... iirc the last version ever released was 8.1, and the first
> version with PROC was 8.0.
> 
> Certainly I've never been near the thing - never really encountered it
> although I did know of its existence.
> 
> Cheers,
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Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-value using SQL UPDATE

[Perry Taylor]

Wow!  Thank you Andy.  I was focused in on UPDATE and never thought to look 
into INSERT for updating an existing record.

Thank you so much!

Perry

-Original Message-
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of andy baum
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:25 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-value using SQL UPDATE

Perry,


You need to do this by using the Dynamic Normalisation and INSERT.


INSERT INTO FILE_MVFIELD (@ID, MVFIELD) VALUES ('KEY', 'THE.NEW.VALUE')


More details can be found in the SQL User Guide Chapter 5.


HTH,

Andy






From: Perry Taylor 
To: U2 Users List 
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 14:26
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

Hrm... no bites??

Perry

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:11 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

I have a need to add an additional value to a multi-valued field on a bunch of 
records.  I was hoping I could do this using SQL UPDATE but it appears you have 
to explicitly list all the muli-values...

UPDATE FILE SET MVFIELD = <'FIRST', 'SECOND', 'THIRD', 'THE.NEW.VALUE'>;

Anyone know of way to append a new value using UPDATE?

Thanks.

Perry

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Re: [U2] Ardent programmers

[Wols Lists]

On 09/09/11 20:53, Wjhonson wrote:
> 
> By the way, I today, for the first time in my career, encountered a seasoned 
> Pick BASIC programmer, conversant with Paragraphs, but who did not know what 
> Proc was.  Never heard of it.
> 
That could easily be true of any BASIC programmer who learnt on Primes.
Actually, that sounds almost certainly like that's the case, seeing as
PAragraphs first appeared on Prime, specifically as the replacement for
PROC.

INFORMATION only (officially) got PROC when it was already on its death
bed ... iirc the last version ever released was 8.1, and the first
version with PROC was 8.0.

Certainly I've never been near the thing - never really encountered it
although I did know of its existence.

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

[Bill Haskett]

I have no idea why the U2 products don't have this capability; then 
these things would run every time U2 starts!  Instead, we have to futz 
around with the O/S and if we restart U2, without restarting the O/S, 
then these things have to be manually started.  I've gotten used to the 
idea that if I want to restart U2 I  have to restart the O/S.  :-(


I've submitted this to U2 on several occasions, but I think it's one of 
those D3 things that is anathema to U2 engineers.  :-)


Bill


- Original Message -
*From:* wjhon...@aol.com
*To:* u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
*Date:* 9/13/2011 9:36 AM
*Subject:* [U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make them 
start at boot time.


Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts?
I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under *nix or 
Windows).


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Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

[Wols Lists]

On 13/09/11 02:13, Boydell, Stuart wrote:
> For future reference, the doc set comes with a full-text index (the .pdx 
> file) that allows you to search (words, phrases, etc) across all the docs in 
> the set.
> http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Acrobat/8.0/Standard/help.html?content=WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7c3d.html

And, iirc, the path names are hard-coded in the documents, so if you
want to install in YOUR standard location, not UV's, the search function
doesn't work ...

I know I've never tried very hard, but I've never bothered with the
complete index precisely because every time I tried to use it, it was
useless, for whatever reason.

Cheers,
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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Bill Haskett]

I have a simple BASIC program I "phantom" off when Windows starts (and 
UD has been started).  This does __NOT__ use a UD license.  This program 
reads a UD "services" file for information and will "logto" then 
"phantom" a specific program.  This is simple and home-grown and might 
be something you're looking for.  However, it works just fine for us, as 
we have a number of scheduled things happening in our application.  If 
you're interested let me know.


Bill


- Original Message -
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*To:* U2 Users List 
*Date:* 9/13/2011 7:03 AM
*Subject:* Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

They do in a round-about way - someone suggested using cron to start uv
session every 15 minutes and launch the phantom...but to do this there
must be a free uv session available to login (be it for only a second).
So if all licenses are in use, is there a way to start a phantom via
cron?

Mark



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:47 AM
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Phantoms do not consume a UV license.

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[U2] Start job on Universe boot under Windows

[Wjhonson]

Back in the olden times, we used to stuff things into WarmStart to make them 
start at boot time.


Where do I stick them in Universe to make them start when Universe starts?
I'd *prefer* a place that is Universe generic (will work the same under *nix or 
Windows).
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Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-value using SQL UPDATE

[andy baum]

Perry,


You need to do this by using the Dynamic Normalisation and INSERT.


INSERT INTO FILE_MVFIELD (@ID, MVFIELD) VALUES ('KEY', 'THE.NEW.VALUE')


More details can be found in the SQL User Guide Chapter 5.


HTH,

Andy






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Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011, 14:26
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

Hrm... no bites??

Perry

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To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

I have a need to add an additional value to a multi-valued field on a bunch of 
records.  I was hoping I could do this using SQL UPDATE but it appears you have 
to explicitly list all the muli-values...

UPDATE FILE SET MVFIELD = <'FIRST', 'SECOND', 'THIRD', 'THE.NEW.VALUE'>;

Anyone know of way to append a new value using UPDATE?

Thanks.

Perry

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Re: [U2] SkyBot Scheduler. Was: Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Steve Romanow]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Charles Stevenson
 wrote:
> Has anyone used "SkyBot Scheduler"?
> It's a commercial non-MV-based product we're considering for non-UV reasons.
> If we go that route, I will also schedule UV jobs under it, too, scripting
> as for cron or windows scheduler as others have written.
>

I have not used that one, but I have daydreamed about cutting over to
TaskForest.
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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[George Gallen]

Although...

If you use cron to login and run the phantom,
  The cron process consumes a license (for a very short time) - although the 
phantom does not.

Also if you use cron, don't forget to check your login paragraph to handle that 
login
Uniquely, and not try to send it to a menu or some other program.

George

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Subject: Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

Phantoms do not consume a UV license.
Otherwise everything Glen says is right.

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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Colin Alfke]

We've done this for years - as long as you don't care that a program
contains the login credentials for a SB user. In the login process (prior to
the SB.LOGIN) we check various parameters (we run under UniData so they're a
little different) and then simply data in the user and password to the
SB.LOGIN program. Set up this SB user to have a specific terminal type and
printer (so it won't prompt) and then in the Start Sys,Menu,Opt setting
enter values that will cause a menu item to run that does what you want.

Of course, if you don't need the SB environment to run whatever it is you
are trying to run then you can skip the SB.LOGIN and run it directly (just
make sure it won't then return to the SB.LOGIN).

This will allow you to use the OS scheduling service which is much more
robust than trying to get a phantom to sleep and restart itself

Hth
Colin Alfke
Calgary, Canada

-Original Message-
From: Manu Fernandes

Hi,

If you start a uv from os scheduller and want to run a SBprocess ; you go to
trouble ... because before running your process you must start a
SBenvironment

Release 5.2 introduce the SB.REMOTE.PROCESS which give ability to start a
process from uv shell (then from os shell) without starting a "SB+ user
login" and it works very fine.
But you run 3.3..

If you want a SBprocess on phantom scheduled  each 15 minutes ... create a
"parent" process with a loop EXEC process ; SLEEP 900  and make a
JobScheduling for these "parent" process.
You start it manually one time from within SB+ session.

I hope this help.
Manu


> -Message d'origine-
> De : Martin Hlasensky
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I need help with UniVerse and job scheduling. Now we have UniVerse 9.5
> and System Builder 3.3.2 (SB) and I want to run process every 15 minutes.
I
> am able schedule job once only in SB. How can I schedule periodically
> recurring job in UniVerse or SB?
> 
> Thanks for answer
> 
> Martin Hlasensky
> Czech republic


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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Mark Eastwood]

They do in a round-about way - someone suggested using cron to start uv
session every 15 minutes and launch the phantom...but to do this there
must be a free uv session available to login (be it for only a second).
So if all licenses are in use, is there a way to start a phantom via
cron?

Mark



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Charles
Stevenson
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:47 AM
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Subject: Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

Phantoms do not consume a UV license.

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[U2] SkyBot Scheduler. Was: Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Charles Stevenson]

Has anyone used "SkyBot Scheduler"?
It's a commercial non-MV-based product we're considering for non-UV reasons.
If we go that route, I will also schedule UV jobs under it, too, 
scripting as for cron or windows scheduler as others have written.


On 9/13/2011 3:52 AM, Symeon Breen wrote:

If you are on *nix use the cron, if on windows use the scheduler.



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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Martin Hlasensky
Sent: 13 September 2011 07:26
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

Hello,

I need help with UniVerse and job scheduling. Now we have UniVerse 9.5 and
System Builder 3.3.2 (SB) and I want to run process every 15 minutes. I am
able
schedule job once only in SB. How can I schedule periodically recurring job
in
UniVerse or SB?

Thanks for answer

Martin Hlasensky
Czech republic

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Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

[Charles Stevenson]

None here.  I've been lurking to hear the answer.
Seems a reasonable request.
Ask Rocket.

On 9/13/2011 8:26 AM, Perry Taylor wrote:

Hrm... no bites??

Perry

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 10:11 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

I have a need to add an additional value to a multi-valued field on a bunch of 
records.  I was hoping I could do this using SQL UPDATE but it appears you have 
to explicitly list all the muli-values...

UPDATE FILE SET MVFIELD =<'FIRST', 'SECOND', 'THIRD', 'THE.NEW.VALUE'>;

Anyone know of way to append a new value using UPDATE?

Thanks.

Perry

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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Charles Stevenson]

Phantoms do not consume a UV license.
Otherwise everything Glen says is right.

What the others say about cron & windows scheduler is fine, too.

There are a couple fancy commercial scheduling products built to run 
under  UV, too, depending on how elaborate your needs are (multiple 
queues, priorities, dependencies, security, etc.)  "Benton" is one.  
There are others.


cds

On 9/13/2011 2:15 AM, Glenn Sallis wrote:

Hi Martin,

In this situation I would create a phantom process, presuming you have 
enough free user licences available, as a phantom process will consume 
one user licence.


This is a UniVerse Basic program which runs in the background and 
perform the actions or processes that you need to take place, every 
fifteen minutes. Start the program as a phantom process with the 
following command at TCL:


PHANTOM MYPROG

In the program you can make it sleep until 00, 15, 30 and 45 minutes 
past the hour are reached. I am also going on the assumption that your 
process will take less than 15 minutes to run.


If you need to reboot your server at any time, you will need to 
manually restart the phantom or you can add it to the uv.rc script 
(making a bold assumption you are on Linux or Unix) with


uv "PHANTOM MYPROG"

Make sure there are no INPUT statements in your program.

Kind regards

Glenn Sallis
Germany

Am 13.09.2011 08:25, schrieb Martin Hlasensky:

Hello,

I need help with UniVerse and job scheduling. Now we have UniVerse 
9.5 and
System Builder 3.3.2 (SB) and I want to run process every 15 minutes. 
I am able
schedule job once only in SB. How can I schedule periodically 
recurring job in

UniVerse or SB?

Thanks for answer

Martin Hlasensky
Czech republic

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Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-value using SQL UPDATE

[Perry Taylor]

Yeah I figured I could do it with a prestore in the editor... I was just hoping 
there was away to do it using SQL.

Thanks.

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Baker Hughes
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 7:33 AM
To: 'U2 Users List'
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-value using SQL UPDATE

Perry,

Using the AE editor, you could create a pre-stored command that will execute in 
a loop.

This assumes that you will append a specific string constant or same numeric 
value to the same field, in every record.

If you need help loading a prestore, then executing in a loop, feel free to tap 
me off line (unless others want to read or contribute to this thread).

Thank you.
-Baker



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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 8:27 AM
To: U2 Users List
Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

Hrm... no bites??

Perry

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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Perry Taylor
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Subject: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

I have a need to add an additional value to a multi-valued field on a bunch of 
records.  I was hoping I could do this using SQL UPDATE but it appears you have 
to explicitly list all the muli-values...

UPDATE FILE SET MVFIELD = <'FIRST', 'SECOND', 'THIRD', 'THE.NEW.VALUE'>;

Anyone know of way to append a new value using UPDATE?

Thanks.

Perry

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Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-value using SQL UPDATE

[Baker Hughes]

Perry,

Using the AE editor, you could create a pre-stored command that will execute in 
a loop.

This assumes that you will append a specific string constant or same numeric 
value to the same field, in every record.

If you need help loading a prestore, then executing in a loop, feel free to tap 
me off line (unless others want to read or contribute to this thread).

Thank you.
-Baker



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Subject: Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

Hrm... no bites??

Perry

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Subject: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

I have a need to add an additional value to a multi-valued field on a bunch of 
records.  I was hoping I could do this using SQL UPDATE but it appears you have 
to explicitly list all the muli-values...

UPDATE FILE SET MVFIELD = <'FIRST', 'SECOND', 'THIRD', 'THE.NEW.VALUE'>;

Anyone know of way to append a new value using UPDATE?

Thanks.

Perry

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Re: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

[Perry Taylor]

Hrm... no bites??

Perry

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Subject: [U2] [UV] Adding a multi-vaue using SQL UPDATE

I have a need to add an additional value to a multi-valued field on a bunch of 
records.  I was hoping I could do this using SQL UPDATE but it appears you have 
to explicitly list all the muli-values...

UPDATE FILE SET MVFIELD = <'FIRST', 'SECOND', 'THIRD', 'THE.NEW.VALUE'>;

Anyone know of way to append a new value using UPDATE?

Thanks.

Perry

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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Manu Fernandes]

Hi,

If you start a uv from os scheduller and want to run a SBprocess ; you go to 
trouble ... because before running your process you must start a 
SBenvironment

Release 5.2 introduce the SB.REMOTE.PROCESS which give ability to start a 
process from uv shell (then from os shell) without starting a "SB+ user login" 
and it works very fine.
But you run 3.3..

If you want a SBprocess on phantom scheduled  each 15 minutes ... create a 
"parent" process with a loop EXEC process ; SLEEP 900  and make a JobScheduling 
for these "parent" process.
You start it manually one time from within SB+ session.

I hope this help.
Manu


> -Message d'origine-
> De : u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-
> boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] De la part de Martin Hlasensky
> Envoyé : mardi 13 septembre 2011 08:26
> À : u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Objet : [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I need help with UniVerse and job scheduling. Now we have UniVerse 9.5
> and System Builder 3.3.2 (SB) and I want to run process every 15 minutes. I
> am able schedule job once only in SB. How can I schedule periodically
> recurring job in UniVerse or SB?
> 
> Thanks for answer
> 
> Martin Hlasensky
> Czech republic
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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Symeon Breen]

If you are on *nix use the cron, if on windows use the scheduler.



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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

Hello,

I need help with UniVerse and job scheduling. Now we have UniVerse 9.5 and
System Builder 3.3.2 (SB) and I want to run process every 15 minutes. I am
able
schedule job once only in SB. How can I schedule periodically recurring job
in
UniVerse or SB?

Thanks for answer

Martin Hlasensky
Czech republic

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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Bob Witney]

Nonsense

Use the unix crontab that's what its for

Script it like this:

##
# Invoke program EW5MINSQ in /PROD
##
#
echo Start of Script
cd /PROD
echo "PHANTOM EW5MINSQ" | uv
echo End of Script

then call the script something sensible like ew5minsq.sh

and add it into a functional users crontab like this:


## Every 5 minutes
0,5,10,15,20,25,30,35,40,45,50,55 * * * * /home/explorer/scripts/ew5minsq.sh > 
ew5minsq.log

The format of the aix crontab is this
## mins hours day of month month weekday shell(unix) command
## 0-59 0-231-31   1-12   0-6 (0 is sunday)



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Re: [U2] Job scheduling in UniVerse

[Glenn Sallis]

Hi Martin,

In this situation I would create a phantom process, presuming you have 
enough free user licences available, as a phantom process will consume 
one user licence.


This is a UniVerse Basic program which runs in the background and 
perform the actions or processes that you need to take place, every 
fifteen minutes. Start the program as a phantom process with the 
following command at TCL:


PHANTOM MYPROG

In the program you can make it sleep until 00, 15, 30 and 45 minutes 
past the hour are reached. I am also going on the assumption that your 
process will take less than 15 minutes to run.


If you need to reboot your server at any time, you will need to manually 
restart the phantom or you can add it to the uv.rc script (making a bold 
assumption you are on Linux or Unix) with


uv "PHANTOM MYPROG"

Make sure there are no INPUT statements in your program.

Kind regards

Glenn Sallis
Germany

Am 13.09.2011 08:25, schrieb Martin Hlasensky:

Hello,

I need help with UniVerse and job scheduling. Now we have UniVerse 9.5 and
System Builder 3.3.2 (SB) and I want to run process every 15 minutes. I am able
schedule job once only in SB. How can I schedule periodically recurring job in
UniVerse or SB?

Thanks for answer

Martin Hlasensky
Czech republic

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Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

[Mecki Foerthmann]

That may be right but most of the examples are for single value 
attributes and most of the problems we face are with multi-valued ones.


On 13/09/2011 02:13, Boydell, Stuart wrote:

For future reference, the doc set comes with a full-text index (the .pdx file) 
that allows you to search (words, phrases, etc) across all the docs in the set.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Acrobat/8.0/Standard/help.html?content=WS58a04a822e3e50102bd615109794195ff-7c3d.html


-Original Message-
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[mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of John Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 11:01
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Subject: Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

Therein lies my beef with the U2 docs.  A million pdf's with bad search 
features.  You guys are way faster :)

On 9/12/11, Boydell, Stuart  wrote:

It's documented in the basic reference manual. Look under TRANS()
:)

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, 13 September 2011 06:39
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Subject: Re: [U2] I-type Subvalue question

The @1<1,1,1>  worked.

Weird...  So the output is not the same as whats in the data?

Be nice of them to document that :)



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