Re: [U2] (no subject)

2012-08-09 Thread Robert
That worked good. Thank you for that. Now all I have to do is change the font type to something like FIXEDSYS or COURIER NEW (both fixed fonts, not proportional) and my columns should line up properly. How do I do that? Robert On 7/28/2012 4:02 AM, Brian Leach wrote: Sounds like the printer

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Bill Haskett
I could be completely misunderstanding your comment "...execute a login as that user." How does one automatically execute a login when the U2 dbms service starts? Are you suggesting that I start the service under particular credentials and configure that user to have a login script (which then

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Wjhonson
If stopud just kills the Windows services (I don't know what it does), that will not kill the phantoms. Each pid runs as a seperate Windows process and is not signalled when the main services are stopped. You can manually kill any pid however. Maybe stopud does more than that. We can stop the f

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Bill Haskett
I have no idea how that would be done. I use a U2 VB script to start services when Windows starts, but have no idea how to alert the dbms that it has started. :-( With a simple solution out there (it's been there for many years), I'm also amazed this simple issue hasn't been implemented. :-

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Wjhonson
You have to write a script that logs in as the phantom user, so that the jobs are launched inside U2. I really have no idea why IBM / Rocket didn't figure out a better way to solve this. See my past thread on the COLDSTART, a very useful command which went bye bye bye. -Original Message-

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Marc Harbeson
Sure would be nice if VSS would cause a dbpause type thing to occur while snapshot is taking place... On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 11:29 AM, David Wolverton wrote: > Hey -- this was a question I got though: Is there a way to make UniData > VSS/Shadow-Copy 'aware'? > > Does that question come up to o

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread David Wolverton
Oh Geez -- I forgot all open files were managed in private memory! That moves it all the way to the 'never can happen' setup! Thanks Wally for the slap-up-side-of-the-head! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Beha

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Wally Terhune
I would not envision having every active UniData process on the system close all of their files when a dbpause command is run. Each process has it's own file handles in its private memory. Processes not actively updating files would need to be signaled that dbpause is requested and then run thr

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Bill Haskett
As far as I know, Windows doesn't care about UniData. If the Volume Shadow Copy service is running the backups cruise right through everything. Now, to answer the question of whether it works, we're not 24/7 and I wouldn't use this if we were. However, since our systems are basically unused

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Bill Haskett
David: You raise a very interesting point; clients sometimes want to use whatever software they have to interface with your software. I have the same problem, especially with printers. All of our reports inject PCL (and PJL) into the print file to manage formatting. This means our output h

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Wjhonson
You have processes running in the middle of the night. So how do you tell they are not "in motion" ? You could just stop those processes. right? -Original Message- From: David Wolverton To: 'U2 Users List' Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:42 am Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Wjhonson
You've restored from backups where files were locked during the backup? -Original Message- From: Bill Haskett To: U2 Users List Sent: Thu, Aug 9, 2012 8:33 am Subject: Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud David: I'm sure I don't have a complete understanding of your situatio

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread David Wolverton
Hey -- this was a question I got though: Is there a way to make UniData VSS/Shadow-Copy 'aware'? Does that question come up to other people as they transition users to U2? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread David Wolverton
It's dependent on the software in use -- we have customers who want to use what they've always used as backup software, and many of the products they have been using will not back up 'open' files. So they end up skipping our primary datafile files!! Yikes!! I'm sure things will improve as the Win

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Bill Haskett
David: I'm sure I don't have a complete understanding of your situation. I use "dbpause" all the time and run backups using Windows backup utilities. I don't think they have a problem backing up locked files because of the volume Shadow Copy functionality built into Windows (of course the se

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread David Wolverton
WELL... in theory UniData has SOME control -- I mean, on Windows, there could be a dbpause 'flag' that tells UniData to close all the open file handles on dbpause and reopen them on dbresume. That would fix the issue! ;-) DW -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.o

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread Wally Terhune
Dbpause doesn't close files. It blocks updates by UniData processes to UniData files. This is via a flag in shared memory that all UniData processes access. We have no control as to how operating systems manage file system files. Wally Terhune Technical Support Engineer Rocket Software 4600 Sout

Re: [U2] dbpause/dbresume or stopud/startud

2012-08-09 Thread David Wolverton
Has the issue on Windows been resolved? Our customers reported that UniData maintained 'open files' at a dbpause, which still made the backup difficult with a dbpause. -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of