Re: [U2] Selection Suggestions for using UV instead of SQL
Thank you. I thought I was going crazy when I couldn't find it again. Robert Norman On 10/18/2012 9:28 AM, Daniel McGrath wrote: You can find it here: https://u2devzone.rocketsoftware.com/accelerate/articles/u2-select/u2-select Cheers, Dan McGrath Product Manager Rocket Software 4600 S. Ulster Street **Suite 1100 **Denver, CO 80237 * USA t: +1.720.475.8098 * m: +1.617.630.7392 * e:dmcgr...@rocketsoftware.com w: rocketsoftware.com/u2 -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:26 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Selection Suggestions for using UV instead of SQL There used to be a version of a SELECT verb on the Rocket website. I think it was in the white papers or technical articles section. It provided source code to a verb called SELECTK I think it was called. If anyone can find it, let me know. I haven't been able to find it after the first time I read it. Robert Norman On 10/17/2012 10:20 AM, George Gallen wrote: Looks like either UV doesn't have LSELECT, or UV 10.0.2 does not. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Haskett Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:16 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Selection Suggestions for using UV instead of SQL George: How about something like: 3 Dev (0)-> LSELECT ? This will create a list of {FileName} keys for records whose field definition value appears in a defined list. Syntax: LSELECT File_Name WITH Dict_Name IN LIST1 TO LIST2 [VERBOSE| -V] Example: SELECT CUSTOMERS SAMPLE 500 SAVE.LIST MY.LIST LSELECT SALES.ORDERS WITH CUST.NBR IN MY.LIST TO MY.LIST.2 Notes: If a destination list is not supplied then keys will be left as the active select list. If a source list is not supplied then the current active select list will be used. Lists may be specified as select buffers (0-8) or as named lists from SAVEDLISTS. An example of this is as follows: 3 Dev (0)-> SELECT MASTER "260""605" 2 records selected to list 0. 3 Dev (0)-> SAVE-LIST MY.LIST 2 key(s) saved to 1 record(s). 3 Dev (0)-> LSELECT ARTMASTER WITH CLIENTNO IN MY.LIST VERBOSE (Parsed Command) LSELECT ARTMASTER WITH CLIENTNO IN MY.LIST TO 0 (Selected List) List Source MY.LIST found 2 items. (Create Temp File) LSELECT0031 file created with MOD = 5 (Loaded List to Temp File) - 2 items. 977 key(s) saved to 1 record(s). (Selected Result List) UDT.COMMAND = select ARTMASTER WITH EVAL "TRANS('LSELECT0031',CLIENTNO,'@ID','X')" GT "" TO 0 UDT.RESPONSE = ?977 records selected to list 0.?? Destination 0 Named List 0 (Delete Temp File) LSELECT0031 file deleted... 3 Dev (0)>> This now has a list of (/*ARTMASTER*/) records that contain a client# in the original select list, MY.LIST. HTH, Bill Untitled Page ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] JOB - UniVerse Software Developer
Software Developer (Seatac, WA) Lynden Incorporated, a privately held family of freight transportation companies that provides world class information services to customers is seeking qualified candidates for a Software Developer position in our corporate Information Technology department. As an employee-oriented company, the atmosphere at Lynden is friendly, professional, and progressive, offering competitive compensation, flexible work hours, a supportive work environment, challenging projects, and comprehensive company funded benefits, including a 401(k) with company match. Responsibilities: We currently have two positions open for a Universe software developer. You will be working on a number of applications developed for automating business processes that are used throughout our nationwide network of service centers. Qualifications: * Bachelor's degree from four-year college or university in related field and two years programming experience; or equivalent combination of education and experience * Experience developing applications in a business environment using Universe or other Pick variant language * Excellent written, verbal, and presentation communication skills Additional Desired Skills (Not required): * Experience developing Java client-server applications using Swing and the NetBeans platform. * Experience developing applications using C# in Windows, Windows CE or Mobile including SQL & SQL CE. * Experience developing web-based applications using ASP.NET, AJAX, XML/XSLT, Struts, JSF and the Spring framework. * Experience with test driven development using TestComplete, MSTest, NUnit or JUnit. * Experience with Agile programming using Scrum. * Scrum Master Experience. This is a full time position in offices located in South Seattle. Send resume with letter to lyndenj...@lynden.com Principals only. Vendors and recruiters, please don't contact this job poster. Lynden Incorporated is an Equal Opportunity Employer ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
That's why we changed. Because you don't have a choice no mo. -Original Message- From: George Gallen To: U2 Users List Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 11:07 am Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode I think the post office phased out discounts for POSTNET early this year, forcing everyone to get Their own MID and use the IMb barcode. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:05 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode IMb includes POSTNET and PLANET. PrintWizard does POSTNET with a single line of code: PRINT "" I dunno if PW supports PLANET or IMb. Bob? But rather than full IMb, this end-user might be OK with just POSTNET, so the solution is readily available. POSTNET info: http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5027/en T > From: sam.alan > We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s > Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. > > The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into > the format needed to print the IMb. > https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_gu > ides/SPUSPSG.pdf > (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) > > The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill > print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to > encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written > a program that does the encoding? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 11:07 AM, George Gallen wrote: > I think the post office phased out discounts for POSTNET early this year, > forcing everyone to get > Their own MID and use the IMb barcode. Yes, I've received notices from the Postal Service (sent to our non-profit group) stating that POSTNET will no longer be accepted after the end of the year and IMb must be used for any automation discounts. John ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
I think the post office phased out discounts for POSTNET early this year, forcing everyone to get Their own MID and use the IMb barcode. George -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 2:05 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode IMb includes POSTNET and PLANET. PrintWizard does POSTNET with a single line of code: PRINT "" I dunno if PW supports PLANET or IMb. Bob? But rather than full IMb, this end-user might be OK with just POSTNET, so the solution is readily available. POSTNET info: http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5027/en T > From: sam.alan > We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s > Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. > > The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into > the format needed to print the IMb. > https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_gu > ides/SPUSPSG.pdf > (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) > > The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill > print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to > encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written > a program that does the encoding? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
IMb includes POSTNET and PLANET. PrintWizard does POSTNET with a single line of code: PRINT "" I dunno if PW supports PLANET or IMb. Bob? But rather than full IMb, this end-user might be OK with just POSTNET, so the solution is readily available. POSTNET info: http://www.ni.com/white-paper/5027/en T > From: sam.alan > We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s > Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. > > The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into > the format needed to print the IMb. > https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_gu > ides/SPUSPSG.pdf > (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) > > The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill > print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to > encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written > a program that does the encoding? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
I lied. Evidently we use something called BulkMailer. We pass it the information and it returns the ascii string, that then gets passed to our printer to make the barcode. -Original Message- From: Wjhonson To: u2-users Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 9:43 am Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode Ugh, nasty. Java is next decade's passe language. And C was last decade's passe language :) Meanwhile COBOL is alive and well and living in the hearts of all fortune 500 companies :) (Even Microsoft???) Yes we wrote our own code. And I use the royal "we" my colleague in the next cell did it, so I'll ask him. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: U2 Users List Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 8:58 am Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode Yes, they *want* to do this so they can continue to receive bulk mailing discounts. Did you write a UniBasic program to handle the encoding, or did you go another route such as using one of the USPS's Java or C encoding programs? - Original Message - From: "Wjhonson" To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:29:59 AM Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode They don't *need* to :) they *want* to Because you get a bulk mailer discount if you do, and you sort it, and its 500 pieces or larger. Something like that. We just did it. Personally they probably spent more to program it then they'll ever see in savings. Ha. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: u2-users Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 5:38 am Subject: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into the format needed to print the IMb. https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written a program that does the encoding? They are running UniData 6.0.12, SB+ 5.2.4 on Windows Server 2003. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
Ugh, nasty. Java is next decade's passe language. And C was last decade's passe language :) Meanwhile COBOL is alive and well and living in the hearts of all fortune 500 companies :) (Even Microsoft???) Yes we wrote our own code. And I use the royal "we" my colleague in the next cell did it, so I'll ask him. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: U2 Users List Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 8:58 am Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode Yes, they *want* to do this so they can continue to receive bulk mailing discounts. Did you write a UniBasic program to handle the encoding, or did you go another route such as using one of the USPS's Java or C encoding programs? - Original Message - From: "Wjhonson" To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:29:59 AM Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode They don't *need* to :) they *want* to Because you get a bulk mailer discount if you do, and you sort it, and its 500 pieces or larger. Something like that. We just did it. Personally they probably spent more to program it then they'll ever see in savings. Ha. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: u2-users Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 5:38 am Subject: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into the format needed to print the IMb. https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written a program that does the encoding? They are running UniData 6.0.12, SB+ 5.2.4 on Windows Server 2003. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
You actually had me believing the planetary code bit... I quickly looked it up because I wanted to see what happened if I created a barcode that directed a letter to somewhere other than Earth. Shame 'PLANET' is just an acronym... -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:42 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode What I find amusing is that the USPS really really planned ahead with the Imb, in that leading Up to it, they instituted a planetary codeReally. That's pretty impressive. Wow, now my Mail can misdirected to other planets!! The Imb is not the same barcode as the old postnet barcode, it is it's own 2D barcode. Make sure Your printer can handle outputting that barcode as well. George http://www.neodynamic.com/barcodes/PLANET_Barcode.aspx This link describes the planet code (Imb) it may help (although it's most likely also contained in the pdf the OP already had). -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode They don't *need* to :) they *want* to Because you get a bulk mailer discount if you do, and you sort it, and its 500 pieces or larger. Something like that. We just did it. Personally they probably spent more to program it then they'll ever see in savings. Ha. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: u2-users Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 5:38 am Subject: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into the format needed to print the IMb. https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written a program that does the encoding? They are running UniData 6.0.12, SB+ 5.2.4 on Windows Server 2003. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
Yes, they *want* to do this so they can continue to receive bulk mailing discounts. Did you write a UniBasic program to handle the encoding, or did you go another route such as using one of the USPS's Java or C encoding programs? - Original Message - From: "Wjhonson" To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:29:59 AM Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode They don't *need* to :) they *want* to Because you get a bulk mailer discount if you do, and you sort it, and its 500 pieces or larger. Something like that. We just did it. Personally they probably spent more to program it then they'll ever see in savings. Ha. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: u2-users Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 5:38 am Subject: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into the format needed to print the IMb. https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written a program that does the encoding? They are running UniData 6.0.12, SB+ 5.2.4 on Windows Server 2003. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
What I find amusing is that the USPS really really planned ahead with the Imb, in that leading Up to it, they instituted a planetary codeReally. That's pretty impressive. Wow, now my Mail can misdirected to other planets!! The Imb is not the same barcode as the old postnet barcode, it is it's own 2D barcode. Make sure Your printer can handle outputting that barcode as well. George http://www.neodynamic.com/barcodes/PLANET_Barcode.aspx This link describes the planet code (Imb) it may help (although it's most likely also contained in the pdf the OP already had). -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Wjhonson Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2012 9:30 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode They don't *need* to :) they *want* to Because you get a bulk mailer discount if you do, and you sort it, and its 500 pieces or larger. Something like that. We just did it. Personally they probably spent more to program it then they'll ever see in savings. Ha. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: u2-users Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 5:38 am Subject: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into the format needed to print the IMb. https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written a program that does the encoding? They are running UniData 6.0.12, SB+ 5.2.4 on Windows Server 2003. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
Re: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
They don't *need* to :) they *want* to Because you get a bulk mailer discount if you do, and you sort it, and its 500 pieces or larger. Something like that. We just did it. Personally they probably spent more to program it then they'll ever see in savings. Ha. -Original Message- From: sam.alan To: u2-users Sent: Tue, Nov 20, 2012 5:38 am Subject: [U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into the format needed to print the IMb. https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written a program that does the encoding? They are running UniData 6.0.12, SB+ 5.2.4 on Windows Server 2003. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
[U2] United States Postal Service - Intelligent Mail barcode
We have a client that needs to print the United States Postal Service’s Intelligent Mail barcode (Imb) on their bills. The USPS has provided specifications for encoding the zip codes into the format needed to print the IMb. https://ribbs.usps.gov/intelligentmail_mailpieces/documents/tech_guides/SPUSPSG.pdf (The encoding specifications begin in section 3.2, page 4.) The ideal solution would be for us to add a call from our UniBasic bill print program to a subroutine that performs the necessary steps to encode the zip codes into the IMb format. Has anyone already written a program that does the encoding? They are running UniData 6.0.12, SB+ 5.2.4 on Windows Server 2003. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users