RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-14 Thread Hona, David S
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chandrika Padaki Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 5:25 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Backup Question Our company has a Universe System. We are trying to automate the backup process without bringing the system down every night

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-14 Thread Brian Leach
John et al I've also used the unix/linux OS-level cp command to make a duplicate copy of our entire production database for development use evey night for the past 12 years, and have yet to run into a single issue with file integrity. That's only possibly valid if you don't use dynamic

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-14 Thread Chandrika Padaki
processes setup. Thanks, -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hona, David S Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:44 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question uvbackup is the official database backup/restore utility

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-14 Thread Bertrand, Ron
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chandrika Padaki Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 9:24 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question If we did a SUSPEND.FILES.ON, does it just suspend the updates and not mess with any jobs / users

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-14 Thread John Hester
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 1:20 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question John et al I've also used the unix/linux OS-level cp command to make

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-13 Thread John Hester
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chandrika Padaki Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:25 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Backup Question Our company has a Universe System. We are trying to automate the backup

[U2] Backup Question

2008-05-12 Thread Chandrika Padaki
Our company has a Universe System. We are trying to automate the backup process without bringing the system down every night. Is there an Online Backup Utility available? If so what is it and do any of you have a sample script I could look at? Thank you in advance, Chandrika --- u2-users

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-12 Thread bpaige
offline if you would like any more info. Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chandrika Padaki Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 2:25 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Backup Question Our company has a Universe System. We

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-12 Thread Anthony Caufield
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Re: [U2] Backup Question

2008-05-12 Thread JPB-U2UG
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Backup Question Our company has a Universe System. We are trying to automate the backup process without bringing the system down every night. Is there an Online Backup Utility available? If so what is it and do any of you have a sample script I could look at? Thank you

[U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Bob Hite
Hello all, I have a client that only does backup once a week. I feel this is a dangerous situation and would like to suggest they look for an alternative. I believe that they could mirror the live system, stop the mirror, backup this copy and then restart and resync the mirror. What I don't

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Robert Paterson
One question that needs answering first though is are they using UniData or UniVerse? This e-mail is for the use of the intended recipient(s) only. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and then delete it. If you are not the intended recipient, you

Re: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread u2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have a client that only does backup once a week. I feel this is a dangerous situation and would like to suggest they look for an alternative. I believe that they could mirror the live system, stop the mirror, backup this copy and then restart and

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread u2
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob Hite Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 9:28 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: [U2] Backup Question Hello all, I have a client that only does backup once a week. I feel this is a dangerous situation and would like to suggest they look

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Bob Hite
Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question Universe or unidata? How long does their weekly backup take? Are they really 24x7, or do they shut down for the backup? How do they currently do the backup? Uvbackup? Cpio? How much of their data is outside of u2 on unix files? -Original Message- From

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Dave S
that move between systems but just a few. Bob Hite [EMAIL PROTECTED] (410)997-9167 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:03 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Robert Paterson
OK - assuming they are on a late enough version of UniData, the best way is to use the dbpause to pause the updates, then backup - yes using mirrors would make that an easier process - then dbresume. If they are not on a late enough version, then get them to upgrade... (Late enough in my view

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Sharcott
. Comments? Ron Sharcott (3635) -Original Message- From: Bob Hite [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 7:17 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question Sorry, Unidata files Backup takes about 2 hours. They are really 24/7

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread u2
@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Backup Question [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have a client that only does backup once a week. I feel this is a dangerous situation and would like to suggest they look for an alternative. I believe that they could mirror the live

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread jbutera
Ron Sharcott wrote: One thing that we have been looking at is DBPAUSE. The problem being that anything running is left to finish. Not a good pause in my book. But the interesting suggestion is the fsclone command in UNIX. This has been reported to us that it could allow us to do an initial

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Robert DunnMiller
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:42 To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question Does unidata have a backup utility at all, or are all backups done at the os level? Unidata DOES have journaling. I don't know how much

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Tom Dodds
, 2006 11:15 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question We're looking at restructuring our backups also. Our current mess includes 3, 2-hour backups overlapping over 4.5 hours. Considering that these are all taken from the original... This is bad. One thing that we have

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Brad Davis
-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Backup Question [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, I have a client that only does backup once a week. I feel this is a dangerous situation and would like to suggest they look for an alternative. I believe that they could mirror

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread u2
1:06 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question There is not a UniData backup utility like UniVerse does. Every site that I have been involved with uses o/s level backups. There is a need to quiesce the database before breaking

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Dave S
@listserver.u2ug.org Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question There is not a UniData backup utility like UniVerse does. Every site that I have been involved with uses o/s level backups. There is a need to quiesce the database before breaking the mirror for backups. dbpause

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread phil walker
I have a client that only does backup once a week. I feel this is a dangerous situation and would like to suggest they look for an alternative. I believe that they could mirror the live system, stop the mirror, backup this copy and then restart and resync the mirror. The problem with this

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Ron Sharcott
Compaq Tru64 UNIX V5.1A UNIDATA 6.0.11 Datatel's Colleague on Envision 4.7.18 Ron Sharcott (3635) -Original Message- From: Tom Dodds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2006 10:07 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Backup Question What platform

RE: [U2] Backup Question

2006-05-17 Thread Timothy Snyder
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 05/17/2006 02:04:35 PM: Seems like there should be a market for a product that can do online backups of unidata like uvbackup does for universe or the FILE-SAVE does for pick. I'm not so sure of that. Even when I'm setting up users on UniVerse, I never use