Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 ..?

2011-02-20 Thread Steve Romanow
: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Yes, it appears to me that the issue I experienced was related to updated security in win2008, not in unidata. I've also noticed that every upgrade breaks something.  Sometimes you get lucky and things run for 10 years, then one day, BAM! A program

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 ..?

2011-02-19 Thread Brian Leach
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Lettau, Jeff Sent: 18 February 2011 18:43 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Yes, it appears to me that the issue I experienced was related to updated security in win2008, not in unidata. I've also noticed that every upgrade breaks

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 ..?

2011-02-19 Thread Symeon Breen
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Brian Leach Sent: 19 February 2011 13:07 To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 ..? Almost all my frustrations are with Microsoft. Over half the development I did last year was simply handling differences between Win7x64 and previous

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Lettau, Jeff
PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Dave Laansma
List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 U2 has probably spoiled us. You should see some of the issues others face upgrading in Oracle, SQL Server, Windows and so on. We have an expectation of seamless upgrades that does not occur in other environments. For people to have

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Kevin King
Jeff, so you're saying that if the ftp script was created by the batch file instead of being created by something else, this works? Gee, that could be the entire issue right there. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Kevin King
Dave, I respect your opinion of my bad form but given that there has been little to no information on this topic, would it make sense to sit on the knowledge that there is a problem (regardless of who is to blame) and just let others stumble blindly into it themselves? It's likely that that the

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Lettau, Jeff
Of Kevin King Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:46 AM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Jeff, so you're saying that if the ftp script was created by the batch file instead of being created by something else, this works? Gee, that could be the entire issue right

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Drew William Henderson
with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Thanks to John Jenkins, who contacted me offlist with some excellent information about the Windows firewall, I return here now to eat my share of crow for casting the blame towards Rocket when in reality the problem was with the Windows firewall. John had me run udt in the console

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Kevin King
Overall, I would have to agree. There have been missteps along the way, but as was mentioned before, it happens with any product. I do wish I had come to this list first rather than going through Rocket support. Might have avoided some embarrassing crow. On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:13 PM,

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Charlie Noah
Silly company names. Charlie On 02-18-2011 3:41 PM, Tony Gravagno wrote: Finally, since we're here: From Charlie Noah: Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? Uh, I don't get it. How are those related? What

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-18 Thread Kevin King
Ah Bill, that was you? Thank you! That was the problem I ran into last week and the new UDT.OPTION fixed very nicely. ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

[U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Kevin King
About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer properly execute the Windows ftp program. Rocket support has basically said

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Doug
- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Wally Terhune
] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine on this release with one notable exception: Unidata 7.2 on Windows will no longer properly execute the Windows ftp

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Kevin King
...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64. Everything I need in Unidata seems to work fine

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Kate Stanton
-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 5:48 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 About a week ago I upgraded Unidata 7.1 on Windows XP/32 to Unidata 7.2 on Windows 7/64.  Everything I need in Unidata seems

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Doug
: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:55 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Doug... If that's working on 7.2.7/Win I'd love to know how. Things here aren't the same as they were on 7.1. Non-Windows versions appear to be fine. Windows versions... not so much. Wally

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Kevin King
I wonder if the ftp on Win2003 is better than the ftp on Win7? Sure, I realize that it's about impossible for Rocket to know every little incompatibility with Windows versions but ftp? That's pretty crucial. ___ U2-Users mailing list

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Charlie Noah
updated Resizer for Universe and Unidata -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Kevin King Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 6:55 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Doug

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Kevin King
I dunno man. There's some really good folks in the U2 group but sometimes I wonder if the decision makers over there ever consider that there are real people trying to use these products? On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:14 PM, Charlie Noah cwn...@comcast.net wrote: Totally OT, and I'm just musing

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Hona, David
February 2011 2:20 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 I dunno man. There's some really good folks in the U2 group but sometimes I wonder if the decision makers over there ever consider that there are real people trying to use these products? On Thu, Feb 17, 2011

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread fft2001
Should I change the name of my company to Galactic Juggernaut ? -Original Message- From: Charlie Noah cwn...@comcast.net To: U2 Users List u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Sent: Thu, Feb 17, 2011 7:14 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Totally OT, and I'm

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Charlie Noah
Subject: Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2 Totally OT, and I'm just musing here - Rocket, Raining Data then TigerLogic. Does anyone besides me see a trend here? Charlie Noah Charles W. Noah Associates cwn...@comcast.net The views and opinions expressed herein are my own (Charlie

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Kevin King
Thanks for the chuckle - that was funny! ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Glen B
On 2/17/2011 10:14 PM, Kevin King wrote: I wonder if the ftp on Win2003 is better than the ftp on Win7? Sure, I realize that it's about impossible for Rocket to know every little incompatibility with Windows versions but ftp? That's pretty crucial.

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread Kevin King
Oh, I completely agree. But the point isn't FTP vs. SCP or SFTP, the point is the value (or anti-value) of unexpectedly breaking existing code. For years I've been preaching about making reusable components of things that are on the fringe of the operating environment to minimize the impact of

Re: [U2] Frustrated with Rocket / Unidata 7.2

2011-02-17 Thread David Jordan
U2 has probably spoiled us. You should see some of the issues others face upgrading in Oracle, SQL Server, Windows and so on. We have an expectation of seamless upgrades that does not occur in other environments. For people to have software that is 25 years old still running on U2 is