RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Dean.Armbruster]

While it is true that Ferguson is on a path to SAP, the rollout is still
several years out.  Until then, we are still enhancing our current
UniData applications.  With the rollout dates still uncertain, and the
off chance that the change will be cancelled, we aren't about to leave
our user base falling behind without new enhancements.  Ferguson is
moving to SAP so that all Wolseley companies will be on the same
package.

As far as "developers catching the boot left & right", that is a
stretch.  Over the past year, two developers have been dismissed, and
both were due to poor performance.  A few of others have left on their
own for their own reasons, but the rate is no greater than a normal
turnover rate.  At least one who left attempted to return, but had
burned their bridges.  We have more developers now than we've ever had,
and we're hiring.  So, if any quality developers are interested in the
challenge of working in an environment with 9 interconnected UniData
servers with up to 3500 users and 5000 udt sessions each, look us up.

Dean Armbruster
UniData DBA/System Analyst
Wolseley North American Division * 12500 Jefferson Avenue * Newport News
* VA * 23602-4314
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Bessel
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>
> I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that
> they are a child company of Wolesley (a UK based building
> supply giant) and a sister company of Stock Building Supply
> in Raleigh NC (they run Progress-based Trend) so I think it's
> a "consistency" issue. I worked at FEI for two years after
> relocating to VA from CT, caught the scent of danger when the
> wind was blowing in the right direction, and got out last
> fall. It's a good thing I did too, because Ferguson's U2
> developers are catching the boot left & right.
>
> The NWNA U2 application is a route management system built
> solely for the home/office bottled water delivery business -
> it has idiosyncrasies that are very different than the Nestle
> global initiative. I'm not sure SAP is going to be a good fit
> for that particular application.
>
>
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> David Wolverton
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>
> Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed
> software to handle
> - I see logic for that move.
> Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they
> are taken - that change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
> But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the
> application or the database?
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> Karen Bessel
> > Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:21 AM
> > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> > Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> >
> > Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP
> solution, as
> > part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe.
> >
> > Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of Orlando and
> > Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.
> >
> > All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars
> > (MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and those
> > systems are now destined for the scrap heap.
> >
> > So, those companies would probably *not* be good references for a
> > "stick with U2" campaign.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Tom Dodds]

Give them time and they may well be stellar references for "stick with U2"
A lot of these get off of U2 initiatives cost a lot of money only to revert
back to U2 in the end. 

Tom Dodds
 

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Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP solution, as
part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 

Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of Orlando and
Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.

All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars (MILLIONS)
on customizing their in-house U2 software - and those systems are now
destined for the scrap heap.

So, those companies would probably *not* be good references for a "stick
with U2" campaign. 




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Nestli Waters North America (Perrier), Greenwich, CT

>Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
>
>Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that
real
>companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.
>
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[asvin . dattani]

HSBC in their investment banking division have been using Universe or it's 
predecessors for the last 20 odd years and look likely to do so for the 
next twenty ..





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Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Karen Bessel]

I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that they are a
child company of Wolesley (a UK based building supply giant) and a
sister company of Stock Building Supply in Raleigh NC (they run
Progress-based Trend) so I think it's a "consistency" issue. I worked at
FEI for two years after relocating to VA from CT, caught the scent of
danger when the wind was blowing in the right direction, and got out
last fall. It's a good thing I did too, because Ferguson's U2 developers
are catching the boot left & right. 

The NWNA U2 application is a route management system built solely for
the home/office bottled water delivery business - it has idiosyncrasies
that are very different than the Nestle global initiative. I'm not sure
SAP is going to be a good fit for that particular application. 


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Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed software to
handle
- I see logic for that move.
Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they are taken -
that
change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the application or the
database?


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Bessel
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:21 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> 
> Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP 
> solution, as part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 
> 
> Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of 
> Orlando and Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.
> 
> All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars 
> (MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and 
> those systems are now destined for the scrap heap.
> 
> So, those companies would probably *not* be good references 
> for a "stick with U2" campaign. 
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[David Wolverton]

Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed software to handle
- I see logic for that move.
Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they are taken - that
change was inevitable whether a good move or not.
But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the application or the
database?


> -Original Message-
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Bessel
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 8:21 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> 
> Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP 
> solution, as part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 
> 
> Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of 
> Orlando and Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.
> 
> All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars 
> (MILLIONS) on customizing their in-house U2 software - and 
> those systems are now destined for the scrap heap.
> 
> So, those companies would probably *not* be good references 
> for a "stick with U2" campaign. 
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Karen Bessel]

Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP solution, as
part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. 

Also SAP-bound are:  Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of Orlando and
Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA.

All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars (MILLIONS)
on customizing their in-house U2 software - and those systems are now
destined for the scrap heap.

So, those companies would probably *not* be good references for a "stick
with U2" campaign. 




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Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestli Waters North America (Perrier), Greenwich, CT

>Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
>
>Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that
real
>companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.
>
>
>Dave Liesse
>Quality Manager
>SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[David Jordan]

I would not just limit it to UniVerse.  Explain that the multidimensional
market is a large market with a number of vendors providing competitive
solutions.  The multidimension database is largely sold encapsulated in an
ISV product hence why it is not heard of a lot.  However people will have
had contact with a multiple dimensional product frequently.  If you get
spare parts for your car, your public library, a significant number of
international banks, building societies, credit unions run on
multidimensional systems. Many government departments, councils and
Hospitals use multidimensional systems.  If someone uses a Pokie machine in
a club, the company that produced the machine is likely to be a user of a
multidimensional system.  There are a range of ERP, MRP systems using U2
around the world.  A majority of University systems use U2.

I think that between Intersystems and IBM there are around 12 Million users
around the world, but I cannot get my hand to the figures.

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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
> Sent: Friday, 27 April 2007 11:29 PM
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> Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> 
> Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
> companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
> no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
> the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
> of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
> respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
> so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
> lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
> information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
> in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
> minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
> haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.
> 
> Dave Liesse
> Quality Manager
> SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Dawn Wolthuis]

Sorry, in case it isn't obvious to click on the solutions tab, try
this URL instead
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/find.html

On 4/28/07, Dawn Wolthuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dave -- Have you seen the Solutions list at
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/

It includes both UniData and UniVerse customers, but should be helpful.  --dawn

On 4/27/07, Liesse, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
> companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
> no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
> the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
> of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
> respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
> so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
> lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
> information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
> in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
> minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
> haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.
>
> Dave Liesse
> Quality Manager
> SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Dawn Wolthuis]

Dave -- Have you seen the Solutions list at
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/u2/solutions/

It includes both UniData and UniVerse customers, but should be helpful.  --dawn

On 4/27/07, Liesse, Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Dawn Wolthuis]

Morningside College, in my neck of the woods, uses Aptron on UniVerse.
The Aptron web site likely says how many customer sites they have.
There are some interesting stories in the history of Aptron, though I
know only a little about it.

1) Deb Atkinson Perry, an IBM U2 Sales person now, was the President
of the AIMS group when I evaluated the product prior to licensing
Datatel software. She had been a user until some users bought out the
company when it was otherwise folding.

2) AIMS from Aptron and Colleague from Datatel started with the same
code.  I do not know the story of how there was a split where the
product was developed by two companies independent of each other after
some point (if anyone does, I'm curious). After some of the problems
that AIMS had in competing with Datatel, several AIMS customers
switched to Colleague (Regis University, for example).

3) When choosing where to go from Prime Information, AIMS chose
UniVerse and Datatel chose UniData.

As for companies using UniVerse, I have worked with a wholesale
plumbing and heating company that had Intuit as their VAR, using the
Intuit Eclipse product.  I suspect that VAR has quite a few customers.

--dawn

On 4/27/07, Drew Henderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

One of the schools out there (can't recall for sure if it was UC-B) used
to run Prime Information on Prime systems.  One of the admins out there
hosted the info-prime list (the predecessor to this group, IIRC.)

Aptron sells the AIMS education management software (we've been running
it since 1981: Prime Information/Primos -> Universe/HP-UX ->
Universe/Linux; in the process of moving to Colleague) that runs under
Universe.

Drew

Gabriel Green wrote:

>When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire housing and dining
>system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
>refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some form of PICK (I
>am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those ran?)  During my
>time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department converted from
>that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.
>
>AFAIK, they are still using UniVerse.
>
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes

Who spent those millions?  Who would you talk to about such a story?

Will

Anthony Youngman wrote:

Reynolds & Reynolds?

Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.

Cheers,
Wol


If you want that sort of story, google for "oxford health pick". They 
were a pick-based (might well have been UV) health insurer. (Trying to) 
switch away from Pick pretty much sent them from market leader to near 
bankruptcy.


Cheers,
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Anthony W. Youngman]

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
writes

Was the SAS you listed as a Universe user the privately held corporation
  headquartered here in Cary/Raleigh North Carolina?  If so that's pretty
  impressive because they are the largest privately held IT corp in the world
  with sales of 1.9 Billion U.S. Dollars per year!
  Will


More likely, it was Scandinavian Airlines System (or whatever the 
acronym stands for).


UV/UD is quite big in the travel industry.

Cheers,
Wol
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Ray Wurlod]

The Australian Taxation Office runs its entire electronic lodgment system on 
UniVerse - primarily an in-house application, with up to 3300 simultaneous 
users allowed.

> - Original Message -
> From: "Liesse, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:28:55 -0400
> 
> 
> Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
> companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
> no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
> the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
> of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
> respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
> so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
> lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
> information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
> in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
> minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
> haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.
> 
> Dave Liesse
> Quality Manager
> SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[will]

   Maybe our star is beginning to rise again.  You just cannot keep a good idea
   down! 8-)
   Brutzman, Bill wrote:

The original eMail did not say "new" sites.  The eMail said annual sales.

I cannot vouch the dollar amount.  I beleive that I heard it a few years ago
at
an IBM U2 product update in NYC perhaps one year after the Informix
takeover.

We pay a few thousand in yearly maintenance.

Yes... I wish that we were in greater demand.

--Bill

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:23 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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If IBM is selling 100 Million in new Universe sites why are we not
seeing more demands for Universe Basic Programmers?

Will

Brutzman, Bill wrote:

Dave:

We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.

Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
like General Motors.

We have been in business for approx eighty years.

We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.

I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.

We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.

Regards,

Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
PO Box 775
35 Industrial Road
Lodi  NJ  07644

973.471.7770 x145 .voice
973.471.9666 .fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[montgomery]

Howdy,

when i worked on the UCB housing system in the early 80's, i'm pretty 
sure it was running on a Mentor 4000. at that time the dining system ran 
on some version of Unix, and information was transfered from (and maybe 
to) it via a serial connection. :)



 \\//_


John Hester wrote:

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel Green

Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:04 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire 
housing and dining

system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some 
form of PICK (I
am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those 
ran?)  During my
time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department 
converted from

that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.


That was probably a Reality system.  That's the hardware I learned Pick
programming on, though it was sold by Microdata at the time.  McDonnel
Douglass aquired Microdata at some point, I think in the late 80's.
They may have renamed the OS after the aquisition, but it was still
Pick.

-John
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[John Hester]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom Dodds
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 2:27 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> 
> I was announced about 9 to 15 months ago in a press release 
> from Reynolds &
> Reynolds.  The press release was posted here on the U2 group 
> by someone, but
> I can't find it.

There's no mention anywhere in the press releases on the R & R site, but
the details are in their 10-Q filing with the SEC.  No way to bury that
;).

http://sec.edgar-online.com/2005/08/09/950152-05-006723/Section7.asp

MS still lists it as a successful implementation in their case studies:

http://www.microsoft.com/casestudies/casestudy.aspx?casestudyid=51919

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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Brutzman, Bill]

The original eMail did not say "new" sites.  The eMail said annual sales.

I cannot vouch the dollar amount.  I beleive that I heard it a few years ago
at
an IBM U2 product update in NYC perhaps one year after the Informix
takeover.

We pay a few thousand in yearly maintenance.

Yes... I wish that we were in greater demand.

--Bill

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of will
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:23 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse


If IBM is selling 100 Million in new Universe sites why are we not 
seeing more demands for Universe Basic Programmers?

Will

Brutzman, Bill wrote:
> Dave:
>
> We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.
>
> Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
> like General Motors.
>
> We have been in business for approx eighty years.
>
> We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.
>
> I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.
>
> We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
> HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
> PO Box 775
> 35 Industrial Road
> Lodi  NJ  07644
>
> 973.471.7770 x145 .voice
> 973.471.9666 .fax
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
>
>
> Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
> companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
> no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
> the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
> of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
> respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
> so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
> lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
> information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
> in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
> minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
> haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.
>
> Dave Liesse
> Quality Manager
> SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Steve Long]

Dave -

Mark is kind of right.  I used to work for ADP.  Their Dealer Management
System is actually on a very, very old version of PICK (pre-Advanced).  They
have been running it for years with extreme success.

Also, Jenkon's Summit V product is in Unidata and it has been in use for close
to a couple of decades.

HTH,

Steve Long
Spyderweb Technical Services, Inc.



> Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 09:28:55 -0400>
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> > Hi, all. My
sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real> companies do,
indeed, use UniVerse. Naturally and logically, there are> no references on the
IBM web site. I've been tasked with coming up with> the names of a few
UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies. If any> of you is willing to let
it be known that your employer uses UV, please> respond as soon as possible.
Of course, this was a last-minute request,> so I don't have time to go through
the normal channels to get reference> lists. Again, I emphasize that we're NOT
looking for contact> information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of
trying to get> in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV
is a> minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff>
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Drew Henderson]

One of the schools out there (can't recall for sure if it was UC-B) used 
to run Prime Information on Prime systems.  One of the admins out there 
hosted the info-prime list (the predecessor to this group, IIRC.)


Aptron sells the AIMS education management software (we've been running 
it since 1981: Prime Information/Primos -> Universe/HP-UX -> 
Universe/Linux; in the process of moving to Colleague) that runs under 
Universe.


Drew

Gabriel Green wrote:


When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire housing and dining
system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some form of PICK (I
am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those ran?)  During my
time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department converted from
that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.

AFAIK, they are still using UniVerse.

Gabe
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Eric Armstrong]

If you google Reynolds and Reynolds and look for articles regarding their
"RGS" product, you'll find the info. Basically, their CEO at the time,
nicknamed "Buzz", spent the money on this "state of the art" RGS product
which never made money but consumed huge quantities. The fallout was that
many of their Basic programming shops had to be closed or consolidated and
many of their Basic programmers, myself included, were either relocated or
laid off in order to save the company, and still that wasn't enough, as they
eventually had to merge with one of their competitors, UCS.

Eric Armstrong
Programmer/Analyst
Lobel Financial
IBM Certified Solutions Expert
714.816.1207
714.995.7012 fax



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I was announced about 9 to 15 months ago in a press release from Reynolds &
Reynolds.  The press release was posted here on the U2 group by someone, but
I can't find it.

HTH

Tom Dodds
 

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Who spent those millions?  Who would you talk to about such a story?

Will

Anthony Youngman wrote:
> Reynolds & Reynolds?
>
> Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
> MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
> floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 27 April 2007 15:19
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
>
> Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gabriel Green
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:04 PM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> 
> When I was a student sysadmin at UC Berkeley, the entire 
> housing and dining
> system, door entry cards, student payment system, et cetera, ran on a
> refrigerator-sized McDonnel Douglass computer running some 
> form of PICK (I
> am curious now, does anyone here want to tell me what those 
> ran?)  During my
> time there I was a UNIX/Windows sysadmin but that department 
> converted from
> that machine to a NT4 box running UniVerse.

That was probably a Reality system.  That's the hardware I learned Pick
programming on, though it was sold by Microdata at the time.  McDonnel
Douglass aquired Microdata at some point, I think in the late 80's.
They may have renamed the OS after the aquisition, but it was still
Pick.

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[Tom Dodds]

I was announced about 9 to 15 months ago in a press release from Reynolds &
Reynolds.  The press release was posted here on the U2 group by someone, but
I can't find it.

HTH

Tom Dodds
 

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 1:45 PM
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Who spent those millions?  Who would you talk to about such a story?

Will

Anthony Youngman wrote:
> Reynolds & Reynolds?
>
> Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
> MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
> floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: 27 April 2007 15:19
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
>
> Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[will]

If IBM is selling 100 Million in new Universe sites why are we not 
seeing more demands for Universe Basic Programmers?


Will

Brutzman, Bill wrote:

Dave:

We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.

Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
like General Motors.

We have been in business for approx eighty years.

We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.

I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.

We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.

Regards,

Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
PO Box 775
35 Industrial Road
Lodi  NJ  07644

973.471.7770 x145 .voice
973.471.9666 .fax

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 


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Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse


Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Jeff Schasny]

I noticed that someone mentioned Hughes Supply earlier. They run over 
7000 concurrent Universe users at 500+ sites in 40 states and were 
Fortune #400 with 5.4 Billion in revenue last year.

will wrote:
>Was the SAS you listed as a Universe user the privately held corporation
>headquartered here in Cary/Raleigh North Carolina?  If so that's pretty
>impressive because they are the largest privately held IT corp in the world
>with sales of 1.9 Billion U.S. Dollars per year!
>Will
>
>Patrick J. "Will" Williams, President
>AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
>www.americancomputertechnics.com
>Raleigh, NC
>919 567-0042
>
>Symeon Breen wrote:
>
> I think William hill are on Unidata
>
> IF Unidata names are of any use there is Trailfinders, SAS, Aer Lingus,
> Virgin Atlantic, STA travel, South African Airways, Travelbag + many other
> airline and travel corporations all have Unidata as part of their
> applications.
>
> Rgds
> Symeon.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
> Sent: 27 April 2007 15:18
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse
>
> Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?
>
> They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
> they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
> the big UK bookmakers.
>
> Cheers,
> Wol
>
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> Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse
>
> Dave,
> Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard &
> Poors.
>
> - Chuck
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[will]

Who spent those millions?  Who would you talk to about such a story?

Will

Anthony Youngman wrote:

Reynolds & Reynolds?

Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.

Cheers,
Wol

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To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
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Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Thomas Derwin]

Nestli Waters North America (Perrier), Greenwich, CT

>Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
>
>Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
>companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.
>
>
>Dave Liesse
>Quality Manager
>SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[will]

   Was the SAS you listed as a Universe user the privately held corporation
   headquartered here in Cary/Raleigh North Carolina?  If so that's pretty
   impressive because they are the largest privately held IT corp in the world
   with sales of 1.9 Billion U.S. Dollars per year!
   Will

   Patrick J. "Will" Williams, President
   AMERICAN COMPUTER TECHNICS, INC.
   www.americancomputertechnics.com
   Raleigh, NC
   919 567-0042

   Symeon Breen wrote:

I think William hill are on Unidata

IF Unidata names are of any use there is Trailfinders, SAS, Aer Lingus,
Virgin Atlantic, STA travel, South African Airways, Travelbag + many other
airline and travel corporations all have Unidata as part of their
applications.

Rgds
Symeon.

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Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?

They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
the big UK bookmakers.

Cheers,
Wol

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From: Charles Barouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Dave,
Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard &
Poors.

- Chuck
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[roy]

John Deere Landscapes (about 2000 seats),  Ferguson Enterprises,  Hughes
Supply,  FW Webb Plumbing

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[John Hester]

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Liesse, Dave
> Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:29 AM
> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
> Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse
> 
> Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some 
> prospects that real
> companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, 
> there are
> no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with 
> coming up with
> the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just 
> companies.

Momentum Group, commercial upholstery distributor serving the office,
architecture and design, healthcare, and hospitality markets.  We've
been using UniVerse since '96.  Feel free to do a product search on our
web site (http://www.themomgroup.com).  All the queries are running
within UniVerse BASIC programs accessed via UniObjects for java.  The
product file being selected is a UV type 2 hashed file and contains
about 60K records.

-John
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Symeon Breen]

I think William hill are on Unidata


IF Unidata names are of any use there is Trailfinders, SAS, Aer Lingus,
Virgin Atlantic, STA travel, South African Airways, Travelbag + many other
airline and travel corporations all have Unidata as part of their
applications.

Rgds
Symeon.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anthony Youngman
Sent: 27 April 2007 15:18
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?

They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
the big UK bookmakers.

Cheers,
Wol

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From: Charles Barouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Dave,
Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard & 
Poors.

- Chuck
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Nancy Fisher]

Peninsula Truck Lines, Inc
a northwest regional carrier...

using UniVerse for at least 15 years.

Nancy Fisher
Peninsula Truck Lines, Inc
Auburn, Washington
253/929-2040
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To: 
Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:28 AM
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse



Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Jeffrey Butera]

> Hundreds of Universities/Colleges (Datatel).

Just for clarity: all Datatel clients use Unidata, not Universe.

-- 
Jeff Butera, Ph.D.
Administrative Systems
Hampshire College
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Oaks, Harold]

Clark County, Washington, Jail system and 911 system uses PI/open, but
we are converting this summer to UniVerse (at last!).

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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 6:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse [not-secured]

[Hennessey, Mark F.]

State of Connecticut,  statewide child support enforcement system.

Websites that have U2 as a backend:

http://www.daedalusbooks.com/

http://www.eurotunnel.com/

http://www.aerlingus.com 


And if memory serves, IBM actually used UniVerse and Red Back BEFORE they 
bought the product lines from Informix (the old "printers.ibm.com" website)
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Anthony Youngman]

Reynolds & Reynolds?

Look on the u2ug web site - you might find the story there. They spent
MILLIONS converting their product to SQL-Server, and the SQL version
floated about as well as a lead balloon. They ended up scrapping it.

Cheers,
Wol

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Sent: 27 April 2007 15:19
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Ron White]

Liesse, Dave wrote:

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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Eckel Manufacturing Company, Inc. since 1982.  Started with Prime 
Information in '82 and then

moved to PI/Open and then to UniVerse when Vmark acquired PI and PI/Open.

Ron White
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Barry Rogen]

PNY TECHNOLOGIES -  THE LEADER IN  MEMORY
UV  since 1995

Barry  Rogen
PNY Technologies, Inc.
Senior  Programmer/Analyst
(973)  515 - 9700  ext 5327
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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nor defeat.t. roosevelt




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Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 9:29 AM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
SS&C Technologies, Inc.
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Mark Eastwood]

Hundreds of Universities/Colleges (Datatel).

Hundreds of Libraries (Dynex? Think name changed?).

Lots of Auto Dealerships (don't remember vendor, ADP?) 
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Anthony Youngman]

Have William Hill dropped UniVerse now?

They used it as the back end to their on-line betting, I believe. If
they're still using it, they're a good site to quote as they are one of
the big UK bookmakers.

Cheers,
Wol

-Original Message-
From: Charles Barouch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 27 April 2007 14:55
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Dave,
Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard & 
Poors.

- Chuck
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Brutzman, Bill]

Dave:

We have used UniVerse as our mainstay business system since 1984.

Our business is stamping metal parts for mostly automobile manufacturers,
like General Motors.

We have been in business for approx eighty years.

We have approx 40 people.  Our annual sales is approx seven million.

I have gathered that IBM annual sales of U2 products is $100 million.

We like UniVerse a lot.  We expect to be on UniVerse... forever.

Regards,

Bill Brutzman, Mgr, IT
HK MetalCraft Mfg Corp
PO Box 775
35 Industrial Road
Lodi  NJ  07644

973.471.7770 x145 .voice
973.471.9666 .fax

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Subject: [U2] Users of UniVerse


Hi, all.  My sales group has a need to convince some prospects that real
companies do, indeed, use UniVerse.  Naturally and logically, there are
no references on the IBM web site.  I've been tasked with coming up with
the names of a few UniVerse users - no contacts, just companies.  If any
of you is willing to let it be known that your employer uses UV, please
respond as soon as possible.  Of course, this was a last-minute request,
so I don't have time to go through the normal channels to get reference
lists.  Again, I emphasize that we're NOT looking for contact
information, and it's doubtful anyone will even think of trying to get
in touch with you; we're just facing the usual concern that UV is a
minor product at which real companies turn up their noses and sniff
haughtily before they go off and use a real system like SQL Server.

Dave Liesse
Quality Manager
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Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Charles Barouch]

Dave,
   Here's a few: The New York Botanical Garden, CMP Media, Standard & 
Poors.


   - Chuck
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RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

[Steve Moore]

Amerex Corporation
Trussville, AL 

Running everything except payroll on Universe/Windows since 1999

Epicor Dataflo 5.8.5 (soon to be 5.11.4)
Universe 10.0.21
Windows Server 2003 R2

HTH,

Steve


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