Just write a program that loops until the resize matches the
recommendations.
See if it goes forever.
*:)*
-- Louie
*Oh, sometimes programmers just want to have fun.*
On 12/1/05, Kryka, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Original Message:
Just noticed something strange...I RESIZE to these
I hit the limit yesterday. I think someone at Lynden knows the exact
width. I'll ask.
Louie Bergsagel
Systems Analyst
Lynden Inc.
On 1/26/06, Ray Wurlod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a vague recollection of a 1088 character limit some years ago.
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Running Universe, PI flavor, I just got this error:
Printer heading exceeds maximum printer heading of 2048 characters.
-- Louie
p.s. SETPTR 0,350,3,0,0,3,BANNER LOUIEB,BRIEF
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a
programmer and a user could expect to see something besides just a date.
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Seattle
DEPDATE
001 I The displayed deposit date (if not voided).
002 IF VOID = THEN DEPOSITED ELSE *Voided*
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Good idea, but is there any performance penalty to using I-types like that?
-- Louie
On 1/29/06, Brian Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I would second all the points about maintainability and legibility being
key.
One additional thing I have seen on one site:
Unlike the A/S type
Ron Pingilley's solution works, with his posted correction to plug in fields
5 and 9.
On 2/3/06, phil walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Garry,
Sorry to burst your bubble ;-). But I don't think he was looking for a
hardcoded answer. Your solution would work for the example he gave but I
am
.
-- Louie Bergsagel
On 2/5/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen instances of 'permanent' save lists but I've converted them to
control records in a separate files.
I like Microdata's date time stamp of their lists. UD/UV certainly have
these in the unix level. I wish D3 had some
SAVE.LIST.NAME
END
I like to put constructs like the above in a loop which I repeat until the
user enters a valid SAVE.LIST (one with records), or enters nothing, and
then I exit the loop and either process the records (if any) or exit the
program (if none).
-- Louie Bergsagel
On 2/13/06, [EMAIL
According to the documentation, DATA is only used ...as an input stack to
act as responses to INPUT statements...
so your basic.program.that.builds.a.list would have to contain
INPUT COMMAND;EXECUTE COMMAND
or you could add another EXECUTE line after the DATA/EXECUTE lines which ran
the
My best friend from high school went into plumbing, and he soared past my
salary decades ago. Our work does have some things in common though.
-- Louie
On 2/18/06, will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Two roads diverged in a wood, And I Took the wrong one?
Has anyone else who is looking
You'd think something so simple would be part of any list server.
Maybe we need to write an mvListserver...
On 2/24/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm guessing March 6. Just a hunch.
I think that the list server should/could detect these and terminate.
Otherwise, they could spin
as Cornell (he used to
live in Seattle).
So let me repeat myself: Chill! This is fun! Maybe Steve our U2UG will
take us all out to dinner! Or he'll pay us $1.23 for every email we forward
to Bill Gates.
*:)*
-- Louie Bergsagel
On 2/27/06, Dianne Ackerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes
Well, maybe in the spirit of democracy, the U2UG should vote for their
preference.
I like the new way myself, as it is much harder to accidently email everyone
when I just want to respond to the sender, and easier to do both.
Before, I would have to cut and paste the sender's name into the to
to the list, not the
individual.
Louie Bergsagel
Seattle
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I guess I don't understand why this is so hard to fix.
If you can't set up filters in your listserver, 1) set up a free gmail
account, 2) set up a filter to send all the bounce/vacation
autoresponse/error emails to the trash, and 3) forward the remaining emails
to the user group.
Louie Bergsagel
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Once you create your account, Louie
I received notification in 2005, but not this year. The last email I
received was the following:
Dana Baron[EMAIL PROTECTED] to u2-users
More options Feb 2
For those of you on this list who are U2UG members, you should be receiving
instructions for voting in this year's board
*Probably. **:)*
*Maybe a little more humor or humour would do us all good...*
On 3/17/06, Dave Tabor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Think they forgot to click 'Reply-to-all'?
(Sorry... my conscience lost on this one!)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL
Lynden Inc. uses the Information flavor.
MITS uses the Pick flavor.
PhotoWorks used to use the Pick flavor. I don't know if they have Universe
anymore.
On 4/11/06, Tom Dodds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At Ashwood Computer Company, have several Pick flavors, several Reality
flavors, one
I sure am getting sick of this reply-to-one or reply-to-all debate.
If we, as supposedly talented programmers, can't find or write a listserver
that needs no human intervention, then we deserve the Out of Office
stupidity.
Louie Bergsagel
2006 President, Seattle Area Pick User's Group
speaking
I've never used the null dict indicator. Who ever reads the syntax book
unless a command doesn't work?
*:)*
-- Louie Bergsagel
On 5/5/06, Mark Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To All:
Was there ever a real requirement on any prior flavor to have the
typically
non-used DICT portion
MATCHES works, unless you want a positional value returned.
IF @RECORD MATCHES XYZ THEN 1 ELSE 0
or
TRANS(PRODUCT.FILE,PRODUCT.NUMBER,DESC,X);IF @1 MATCHES
0X'Roadster'0X THEN FUN ELSE BORING
-- Loue
On 8/9/07, Doug Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have someone asking me how to use a LOCATE
Besides hotels, sisters and ferries, has anybody gone to a U2 University
before?
Any clues as to its worth?
It is difficult to tell from the agenda and session descriptions.
Louie Bergsagel
Business Analyst
North Coast Electric
Seattle, WA
On 8/19/07, Craig Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
I'd recommend getting a mover that specializes in moving computer equipment.
Their trucks have air shocks that practically eliminate bumps and shaking.
Just google computer movers.
-- Louie Bergsagel
Seattle
On 8/21/07, Charles Barouch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All,
Anyone here have any
What do you mean by 50 different filesystems? 50 directory / Type 19 files?
On 8/23/07, Ross Morrissey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At PhotoWorks circa 2003, we had approximately 500,000,000 jpegs of
various
sizes sitting in Unix directories on one IBM RS6000.
We got around the OS limitations
I am a subscriber to both lists, and I don't even pay attention to the
source list.
I have Gmail forward both lists to work, where an Outlook filter pops up a
notice, because I like to read things as they come in, again, regardless of
the source list, and everything goes to my Saved - U2 folder.
?
The file currently has 4 other indexes.
-- Louie Bergsagel
Seattle
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I've never heard about MINIMUM.MODULUS, but then again when I did most of my
operations database work late last century, dynamic files did not exist.
I've never heard of split operations either.
Here are all the ANALYZE.FILE results:
ANALYZE.FILE ABC
File name .. ABC
...
File
The date index would contain internal-format dates, and there would be one
for every record, as it is the POST.DATE.
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http://www.osda.org/links.htm
is a good starting place (user group links at the bottom of the page).
-- Louie
On 9/13/07, Brian Leach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All
This sounds like a good topic for a page on the new U2UG Wiki, where local
user groups could advertise their presence and
I couldn't reproduce that error in ED on a Pick-flavored UniVerse site.
I've always used C/old/new/ instead of R, but apparently they are synonyms.
A shorter command to type would be R//UPCASE(
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Nice. I kept my PR1MOS books for 27 years, and tossed them out in March.
I was able to login and create a directory. What fun!
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Where is this $UVHOME file? I can't find it in my UV directory.
-- Louie
$ ls -l *HOME*
ls: 0653-341 The file *HOME* does not exist.
$ ls -l *UV*
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root system 4096 Jan 11 2007 D_UV.ACCESS
-rw-r--r-- 1 root staff 4096 May 11 2005 D_UV.ACCOUNT
-rw-r--r--
I always just set MAXUSR to 0, and then walked around the company and logged
everyone off who had gone home without logging out.
Oh, yeah, that was PRIMOS, twenty years ago.
And it only worked for the remote branches if I could find someone working
late there, or the janitor, to log terminals
LOL, I'm IN the uv directory. LOGTO UV is a valid UniVerse command. It
isn't my fault that Unix is UPCASE challenged.
On 9/17/07, Jerry Banker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LOL, it is the uv directory.
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From: Louie Bergsagel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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of the uvhome file, just type in cat /.uvhome
Rgds
Bernard Lubin
Development Department
Reynolds and Reynolds
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Sent: Tuesday, 18 September 2007 8:00 AM
To: u2-users
I believe the Prime Information version of UniVerse acts like you'd expect.
The Pick version is like Prime Information with one hand tied behind its
back.
-- Louie
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go.
- Oscar Wilde, 1854 - 1900
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PH for PH
SL for SAVEDLISTS
CO for COMO
HO for HOLD
On 10/11/07, Ron Hutchings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The sites I've been around someone creates a voc pointer to SAVEDLISTS
named
SVL or SLV to save keystrokes.
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-- Louie Bergsagel
On Jan 3, 2008 7:29 AM, Doug Chanco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a way in universe (10.1) to see the date a pick item was
created/last modified?
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Does UniVerse work with clusters of Unix machines? Such as two or three IBM
P650's (System Model: IBM,7038-6M2)?
And/or a mixture of operating systems, like Unix on one box and Linux on
another (PC)?
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UniVerse release 10.1.12
I am not using UV Transaction Logging or Replication.
I'd like to be able to hook our IBM P570 and P650, and a Linux PC together,
and have one instance of UniVerse using all computers, balancing the load
between them, and sharing files and accounts between them (e.g.
I've got a paragraph (UniVerse, Pick flavor) I run every night that copies
all phantoms 3 days or older to a PH.BAK file, in case I want them later, a
painless way to keep the PH file cleaned out.
SELECT PH WITH DATE LT THREE.DAYS.AGO OR WITH (DATE = THREE.DAYS.AGO AND
TIME LT 08:00:00pm)
I'm trying to copy UniVerse files (all types) from one computer to another
using an NFS mount and the Unix cp command, but am getting damaged files
because they are in use. They are large files, between 4 and 22 gigs, some
hashed, some dynamic, some directories.
I tried to suspend UniVerse and
You'd want to create a ...DAYS.AGO I-type to the length of your
longest-running phantom.
I just set it to 3 so that on Monday we could see the weekend's work.
-- Louie
On Feb 5, 2008 6:03 AM, Kathleeni M Hunter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
What about a phantom that run for more than three days
Thanks all for everyone's input!
We added a trio of sync commands after every uv -admin -L, and that seemed
to do the trick.
We had no copy errors.
We'll look into the other solutions (rcp -p, and jfs2) and let you know of
any improvements.
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New Mexico? Try Texas, Nebraska and Kansas are the top 3. New Mexico is #
21.
I was surprised to see Montana at only #13.
Minnesota has more cattle than Montana. I'm surprised they don't all fall
in the 14,000 lakes.
http://www.cattlerange.com/cattle-graphs/all-cattle-numbers.html
On Feb
Actually the state was in on the first line of the post. @vet.upenn.edu
I'd guess this was a test, and they wouldn't hire people who didn't notice
that...
(smile)
-- Louie in Seattle
On Feb 8, 2008 4:03 AM, Dennis Bartlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In defence of the original poster, one had
(009)
Same methodology works for commas. Just replace CHAR(009) with CHAR(044).
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Silly question perhaps, but are there any CONTINUE or EXIT statements in the
parts you left out?
When I worked on an AS400 about 10 years ago we had to have the time crystal
replaced because it was losing 2 minutes a month. Do computers still have
those?
-- Louie in Seattle
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If you had a continue or exit in the code above line 439, it would speed up
the interval by skipping the sleep on line 439, and depending on what that
code was doing, it could take a coincidental 53 seconds.
But you said there was none, and there are no double top loop lines, so
that situation is
I've tried pasting a large amount of @IDs into and edit list, and UniVerse
will only handle about 2500 lines before dropping data.
For instance, I did a LIST FILE EVAL @NI SAMPLE 5000, and cut and pasted
that into EDIT.LIST LOUIEB, and it started dropping lines at 2519.
Quite annoying.
2517=
I wish everyone who had a U2 product would put an ad here.
How else is anybody to know what is available?
(Besides reviewing the 175,000 URLs returned with googling IBM UniVerse.)
-- Louie in Seattle
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If your subroutines don't return their name in the error message when they
fail, the only other things I've done is to use RAID, or to put debug
statements in the programs:
IF UPCASE(@SENTENCE) MATCHES 0X'DEBUG'0X THEN DEBUG = @TRUE ELSE DEBUG =
@FALSE
IF DEBUG THEN DISPLAY Begin subroutine
With more than 25 years in IT, this is what I have learned:
*People remember quick for a day; they remember dirty forever.*
- When I talked to a former CIO about quality and documentation, he
said management expects best practices, and it is up to us programmers to
deliver them.
-
How long before it fails?
I've been running
LOOP
EXECUTE DATE CAPTURING X
REPEAT
for over 8 minutes now, on an IBM P650, AIX 5.2, UniVerse release 10.1.12,
Pick syntax.
Perhaps because it is only March...
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I killed this after 1.4 million iterations of executing and displaying the
date (capturing X) and a counter with no problems.
TEST.FATAL.CS
0001 COUNTER = 0
0002 LOOP
0003 EXECUTE DATE CAPTURING X
0004 COUNTER += 1
0005 DISPLAY X: :COUNTER
0006
Since the list is fairly quiet today, I thought I'd share a quote that seems
to suggest that bad code is everywhere:
The price one pays for pursuing any profession or calling
is an intimate knowledge of its ugly side.
-- James Baldwin
U.S. author (1924-1987)
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I have gotten that error when trying to open (or LIST) a record that is too
large (such as a PH record with millions of lines) or when loading an
internal variable with too much data before writing it to a file (e.g. many
instances of var-1 = line). Using WRITEBLK or WRITESEQ solves the latter
Does anyone know if IBM has a list of possible causes of damaged files?
We have a 13gb type 18 file that is damaged, and we don't know why.
-- Louie
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We got write errors from a UniVerse program that updates that file.
These errors were repeated many times:
Found buffer on freechain that is marked as in use.
Possible file corruption can be fixed with RESIZE.
I do not know if these are UniVerse or Unix errors. The program was not
written by
UniData is like Clan of the Cave Bears
UniVerse (at least the Prime Information syntax) is like 2001 - A Space
Odyssey
Let the db wars begin.
-- Louie
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Don't know if this would be considered an ad, because I'm an end-user, but
MITS Report is a pretty nifty report generator for UniVerse and other
databases. It already is a great product, and MITS is improving it in
leaps and bounds. www.mits.com
-- Louie in Seattle
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at
We've never done a SET.INDEX, but the indexes used to work just fine.
I wonder if they have to be set once and they work until the next upgrade?
-- Louie
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No, but how could it have worked before? If a SET.INDEX was required,
wouldn't it have to be executed after every copy?
We've never done that.
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Wally Terhune [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Identical file system path to the files and indexes?
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I'm surprised to see most people suggesting a date time stamp for the
record key.
Isn't a sequential number the ideal? Which hashes better?
I like Mr. Stevenson's suggestion of storing a next-available key in the
file header. It could be configurable by file to be an integer, or some of
the
I just found out that the original indexes had a virtual path (correct
terminology?) (../directory.name), which didn't work with the new version of
UniVerse (10.2.7), so our vendor changed them to a physical path (u2/
directory.name), which didn't match our other system.
So now we do a SET.INDEX
by suspending UniVerse during out nightly copy.
Louie Bergsagel
North Coast Electric
Seattle
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LONGNAMES ON
0004 TERM ,8
0005 IF @TTY = phantom THEN GO END.PARAGRAPH
0006 IF @ACCOUNT = louie THEN LOUIEB
0007 END.PARAGRAPH:
0008 *
CT VOC IF
IF
0001 K
0002 215
0003 *
UniVerse release.: 10.2.7
UniVerse syntax..: PICK
AIX 5.2
Louie Bergsagel
North Coast Electric
I commented out that LOGNAMES line, logged out, and in, and ran LOGIN.TEST
again, and it still gives me an Illegal IF statement. error message.
I'm also finding dictionary I-TYPES not working today that worked yesterday:
LIST REPORTS START.DATE UD.TODAY WITH START.DATE = UD.TODAY
Bad data = for
I found the problem. Somebody had deleted the = VOC record.
ED =
Unable to open =, not a file in VOC.
I restored it from EQ.
-- Louie
CT VOC =EQ
=
0001 K
0002 4
EQ
0001 K
0002 4
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No, that works fine. You only need a label if you want to skip some lines.
Turns out somebody had deleted the VOC equal sign record =.
Which brings up a good security question, how do you prevent someone from
deleting things? Put shell around ED and DELETE?
It would be a bummer to have to make
The program? What program? We sure could use one.
-- Louie Bergsagel
North Coast Electric
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Irina Lissok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi everyone,
We have the program which runs and creates separate excel files for
relational data.
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I don't know if this is very elegant, but it matches up the record lock with
a user name:
0020 LOOP
0021 LOOP.COUNTER += 1
0022 *DISPLAY LOOP.COUNTER
0023 IF LOOP.COUNTER GT 100 THEN EXIT
0024 TRY.AGAIN =
0025 READVU FIELD1 FROM VOC.FILE,VOCLIB,1
A former co-worker of mine had a nifty paragraph he wrote which would edit,
compile, catalog and run a program in one fell swoop.
Because I detest wasting time with repetitive tasks, I've written a similar
program which also copies the current version of a program to a backup file
in case I trash
I've only been to one U2 University (last year in San Francisco), and I was
wondering if anyone who has gone several years has any feel for how
different the conferences are from year to year.
It is hard to tell from the course titles. I can't find any detail on IBM's
website.
Ah, found the U2 University session abstracts:
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/info/u2/university/index3.jsp
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That is a nifty idea if your values are all the same type. It doesn't work
for 1-10:
EDIT.LIST MYLIST
New record.
: I
0001= 2
0002= 1
0003= 3
0004= 5
0005= 10
0006= 7
0007= 6
0008= 4
0009= 9
0010= 8
0011=
Bottom at line 10.
: FILE
MYLIST filed in file SAVEDLISTS.
GET.LIST MYLIST
10
The definition of a bureaucrat is one who photocopies their documents before
shredding them.
A former employer of mine used to have me print inventory lists every
Friday; about 400 pages times about 30 users. Decollating four-part carbon
paper was a riot. Talk about a carbon footprint!
I
Could we get links to multivalue vendors (who wish them) on the U2UG
Knowledge Base page or somewhere?
It is a crying shame that all these nifty multivalue tools are out
there, and one only stumbles across them in miscellaneous posts.
Also multivalue software packages. We have users with
or
LIST PARTS WITH F1 LIKE \..\
I find dots easier to type then left and right brackets.
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Has anyone compiled any reasons for buying or developing in UniVerse vs.
Oracle or some other relational database?
I keep hearing things like:
- UniVerse doesn't cache like a relational db
- UniVerse doesn't use indexes properly
- UniVerse selects aren't as fast as a relational db
and
That happens to me all the time when I try to COPY a HOLD file/record to
another directory. My reports are often 230mb or larger.
I asked IBM, and they said COPY always had a size limit. Can't ED it
either, as Dan observed.
So I just wrote a program to select the records, and copy them using the
Aye, matey, and since it is th' 13th annual International Talk Like a Pirate
Day, http://www.talklikeapirate.com/we can say Shiver me timbers, and
I'll stick wit' a LIST statem'nt! http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
On Fri, Sep 19, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Anthony Youngman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
There
I've heard that UniVerse will cache data, or leave data in memory in case
the next request needs it.
Is there any way to control how much data gets kept in memory, and for how
long?
If one has 32 gigabytes of memory on an AIX machine, is there any way to
tell the operating system (or UniVerse) to
We have some data transfer processes that take about 9 hours, loading data
from our production computer to UniVerse databases used for data analysis.
We'd like to speed that up, and have used ramdisk for some improvements,
but not enough.
Also the time taken to display huge sets of data takes too
Several files, but these are representative:
ANALYZE.FILE ALPHA (reads writes)
File name .. ALPHA
Pathname ... ALPHA
File type .. DYNAMIC
Hashing Algorithm .. GENERAL
No. of groups (modulus) 545607 current ( minimum 337 )
I saw a fairly impressive webinar from Kore Technologies the other day, but
they port UniVerse to Microsoft SQL, so I don't know if you'd be interested
in them. It seemed like they had a pretty clean interface.
http://www.koretech.com/kore_integrator.asp
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We also use MITS, but
How bad is badly in ANALYZE.FILE [filename] STATS?
File name .. ALPHA
Pathname ... ALPHA
File type .. DYNAMIC
Hashing Algorithm .. GENERAL
No. of groups (modulus) 252220 current ( minimum 1607, 0 empty,
LIST FILE.NAME STATUS DATE
001A 02/18/2009
B
C 02/18/2009
STATUS equals A, B, and C.
There are DATEs for A and C, but not B.
-- Louie In Seattle
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Eric Armstrong
earmstr...@lobelfinancial.com wrote:
Even if
,...
prompt. I believe HELP will give you the details.
-- Louie Bergsagel
Bergsagel Computer Consulting
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 3:14 PM, roy r...@distsolutions.com wrote:
Hi all,
Is there a way to accomplish passing an argument from a basic program to a
paragraph?
Something like what
And of course, the paragraph mentioned in #2 would read the argument using
the C2 command, where the number in the Cn prompt represents, in
this example, the second word on the command line.
e.g. IF C2 # THEN SELECT INVENTORY WITH PART.NO = C2
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:25 PM, Louie Bergsagel
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Seattle, Washington
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Better Better works fine in IE6, under Parallels on an iMac.
You IE8 folks are just way too far ahead of the curve.
(smile) (for those who don't like emoticons)
-- Louie In Seattle
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I like all upper case because I believe programs should be shouted when
reading aloud. I also like the comment that said it works on all platforms.
And the one that said they had programs from last century.
I don't like all lower case because there is no quick and easy way to tell
if an author
No, I'd add punctuation, as I hinted in my email:
I've hated words joined together without space or punctuation delimiters
ever since.
On Sun, Aug 23, 2009 at 1:01 AM, Boydell, Stuart
stuart.boyd...@spotless.com.au wrote:
A case of you preferring SOMETIMESLOWER perhaps?
Stuart
I'm in my current job because I was willing to learn Python at work and on
my own dime. I took a beginner's course in Python at the University of
Washington because I didn't know much besides Prime Information, Henco's
Info, Structure/4, UniVerse, UniData and MITS. It was fun to learn Python
as
centers throughout the United States.
Louie Bergsagel, Seattle
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Wjhonson wjhon...@aol.com wrote:
https://www.ziprecruiter.com/job/PICK-Programmer/2a00262a/?source=cpc-simplyhired
If anyone finds out who this company is, could you please let me know, so
I can
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