Hey,
This is a message to those few who might still remember me.
It is time for me to leave. I will not be reachable via this list from now
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Hello John,
FYI, Thunderbird uses XUL with a theming compatibility layer, not GTK2. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XUL for details.
This is a wrong list to contact indeed. I'd rather contact Ubuntu Mozilla
team, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam
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Thanks for the info, I didn't know of XUL technical details. Still, if the
issue is local to Thunderbird, it's still very likely a bug in whatever XUL
uses to render via GTK. For example, LibreOffice tries to use GTK rendering
too (GTK3 as of late) and it's not 100% compatible either. I'd try to
I'm a surprised not to see Roberto Pérez Favela named among winners.
His design is probably the only one vivid enough to grab attention and
interest a person who has never heard of Ubuntu before, the only one
to actually promote Ubuntu instead of providing a checkbox-filling
countdown for geeks
Hi Matteo,
Sorry for late reply, this list is not particularly active lately.
Ubuntu's Humanity theme already ships in SVG format, so you can browse
Ubuntu icon theme at /usr/share/icons/Humanity/. The icon you're
looking for is access.svg in apps/ folder.
Humanity icons are based on elementary
There seems to be an ubuntu-website mailing list which deals with
design of such sites as ubuntuforums, packages.ubuntu.com,
help.ubuntu.com, etc. It might be a good idea to contact them.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/Ubuntu-website
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These icons were commissioned by Canonical indeed, but they are over a
year old and they're not being developed.
By the way, elementary icons, upon which Humanity icon set is based,
will see a new release soon:
http://elementaryos.org/journal/icons-30-begin-testing-luna
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Paintsplash is interesting, but wallpapers have to be at least 2000px wide
to get their way into Ubuntu.
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Amaresh, I think you're looking for this: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/training
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I've put together some wallpaper guidelines for my artistic distro a
while ago, but the wiki with them is currently down. I'll post a link
as soon as I get the wiki back. However, I'll probably have nothing to
add, your draft seems perfect to me.
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John,
+1 for stepping up. I recall promising an Ubuntu Faith Award for that :)
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Looks nice, but it's even more confusing than Faenza. I'm afraid I'd never
guessed what do folder-mail-sent or user-trash-full mean.
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By the way, I have some artistic apps which I'd like to contribute to Ubuntu
Studio.
I've packaged GIMP Paint Studio and shipped it by default in my Ubuntu
remix: https://launchpad.net/~shnatsel/+archive/gimp-paint-studio
GIMP-Painter patch is a great addition to it:
Guys, please stop the gimp vs photoshop holywar and get back to topic.
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Is there anything else that the community would like to change this time
around? (The design team will be around till Wednesday)
I'm not the community team, I'm just an individual, but I'd like Canonical
to assign somebody to handle the community-to-Canonical contact in the area
of artwork.
Back to topic... Ubuntu start page has numerous bugs, like lack of
localization support, no session restore button, ugly 404 error if you start
firefox with search plugin set to sites other than Google or Yahoo etc.
Nobody seems to care. I personally had a bad experience with having my fixes
for
Fine, we need a new team leader as well. I don't want to miss another
cycle. I hate being subscribed here and not feeling useful.
+1
In Elementary, DanRabbit is a leader that does awesome things which inspire
other people. He seems to be a good coordinator too. As a result, everyone
is
I suggest making a wiki page for cases like this. Contact one of
these volunteers for small task X
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It's also quite strange to see only narwhal-themed wallpapers chosen
for the release, especially after Matthew Nuzum said Starting at the
point of Beta Ubuntu changes from the code name of Natty Narwhal to
Ubuntu 11.04 it would probably be inappropriate to over-emphasize
narwhal graphics.
Hi Reda,
as far as I remember, the smileys are just placeholders. I like your
sketches, and I'd really like to see them finished. We're always short of
Ubuntu pictograms, AFAIK we have only the official
sethttp://design.canonical.com/brand/Pictograms/and event
pictograms
I guess we got off the initial topic.
We first need to identify the issue to fix the situation.
We need to state clearly what our problem is, before we seek advice from
Jono/Ivanka.
I think we need to generalize the facts and go from particular cases to more
general issues. Let's recall the
Banning a person is the last resource. If you have tried to resolve the
issue privately and failed, why don't you take it publicly? We can have a
meeting on IRC with John and the rest of the team and see if we can agree on
how to move forward. What do you think?
I don't quite like the
Tux and ubuntu logo now have the same color technically, but not visually.
Ubuntu logo is larger and is surrounded by darker background, so it looks
lighter than Tux. Still inconsistent :)
Ubuntu and GNOME logos on the side also have different shades of aubergine,
it also looks inconsistent. One
2011/2/19 EldiS eldis.des...@gmail.com
Heh... A lot of dislikes this time. It turned out that I'm going backwards.
No, you are not. You are moving forward. I just can't notice or enumerate
all glitches at once just looking at an in-progress version. For all
previous versions I thought OK,
Things you mentioned are fixed now, if this could be called fixing.
I tend to call it that way since I mess with code more. I know design basics
(revising them right now actually) and that's all, I don't belong to the
design culture.
I played with Tux color, and I think it looks more slick
On the other hand, a separate group for artwork makes much more sense than
mixing it with photography. Participators can look for inspiration and
judges won't have to separate artwork from photos. John, I can't deny that I
like using a separate group for artwork. But why didn't you discuss this
2011/2/18 Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com
People want to have fun and be productive, and not to constantly have to
worry about people creating their own sub-groups and sabotaging existing
process for their personal interest.
I'm absolutely sure that all people on this list have good intentions.
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AFAIR, his group was created before the announcement of using art-owl, and
he tested art-owl and knows its shortcomings perfectly. He knew that art-owl
won't work. But the lack of coordination screwed a very good initiative
again.
You know, John is not the only person on this list who acts first
2011/2/18 Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com
I doubt that, even Thorsten and Martin tried to talk to him in private
off the mailing list and try to resolve these issues of
mis-communication, mis-representations.
But nothing seems to help, hence the magnitude of frustration you notice
in the replies
Sergey,
If there is a ray of sunshine on this list you are it. :)
Don't say that. The list is full of intelligent, talented and creative
people. We *all* just need to be a bit more collaborative.
Oh well. It seems that I'll have to set up that poll, right?
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It's sad to see Thorsten go indeed. Twice as sad to me because I saw the
community of my wiki fall apart for the same reason. I'll miss him and his
advice.
On the other hand, the issues are pointed out, so now we can work on solving
them. After reading Martin's message I think we shall ask Ivanka
I can't see the point of the little live cd label. I store mostly
alternate CDs or 2-in-1 DVDs, so that label is simply not true for me. And
its location also seems unnatural to me.
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2011/2/16 Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com
About placement, it is placed exactly on the upper virtual edge, like
side Ubuntu logo, and back tab. And on the right side, it is lined
with main title tab edge too, so if someone have some suggestion where
to place it, I'm open for it. To me
Hi Jonathan,
I think closing the contest now is not a good thing to do in a political
sense. Announcing some deadline and then changing it or the rules is really
discouraging. People must be sure of stability. They must be sure that the
rules, specs and the deadline are fixed and won't be changed
Well, the first of February was quite a long time ago, in my time zone at
least :) I wonder where's the winners announcement?
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2011/2/11 Pumpkin Lord eldis.des...@gmail.com
Considering optical vs metric font kerning mantioned before, optical
didn't provide any notable improvements.
Automatics won't improve anything in case of such a stretched font. You'll
have to do manual kerning. Users don't seem to care about it,
2011/2/5 Alexander Milanov a...@amilanov.com
Hi, Sergey.
Thank you for the help. I didn't know that the default Plymouth theme
remained the same in Maverick.
You can view changelog for any package at packages.ubuntu.com. Here's the
Plymouth changelog:
Hi Alexander,
Thanks for your work! I've added Plymouth screenshot to the page. I also
made screenshots of all Plymouth themes available in Ubuntu repositories a
while ago and uploaded them to the screenshots website, you can get them at
2011/1/25 Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de
You could remove or separate the leading numbers.
Agreed. They don't seem to be useful.
The table might look more interesting, but showing unnecessary information
while not clearly separating the all important state is by no means
well-designed.
Also
Turned it into Python to make the h,v,f,o flags available and added you
to AUTHORS. Included with v0.4:
http://thorwil.wordpress.com/2011/01/23/backtestground-0-4-context-extraction-automated/
Thanks! I'm glad to work on something meaningful.
I've googled for a way to do this in KDE 4 and
Oh, and it would be a very nice not to be limited to zoom mode. I'd
appreciate the ability to test other options: centered, scaled,
stretched, zoom, spanned, there also was some weird name for tiling.
And for scaled and spanned options arises background color problem, so
you might need to
Excellent, thank you. With your permission, I would like to add this to
Backtestground, under GPLv3 like the rest, clearly identifying you as
the author of this file.
No problem!
One issue, though: the rm on_white.png on_black.png does not work (and
I have not the slightest clue why).
I
It writes Backtestground returned an error because
extract-background-context doesn't return 0. It should be like that.
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The process of manually taking screenshots, saving them, naming them,
launching the command with the needed parameters seemed too manual to me, so
I wrote a small shell script which does it all automatically.
After running it waits for 3 seconds, then does all described actions for
We had people like during the brainstorm for ideas on the new bootsplash. A
mrdoob in particular produced some rather nice youtube videos. (
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Hi Abhinav,
the current tasks of the team are listed at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks. As you can see, at the moment we have
wallpaper contests for
Xubuntuhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Specs/0007_Xubuntu_Natty_Wallpaper,
Lubuntu
Not a task assigned to us; since the official team has shouldered the
responsibility of picking out the three, there isn't much that we can do as
a group.
On the other hand, artists willing to contribute probably will start looking
for possible tasks from that page. It's kinda weird to have
Shall we add this to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Tasks ?
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IMO the covers are very nice, but the previews look cluttered and scary.
It's hard to understand where is the cover and where is the info about it.
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Hi Paulo,
Thanks for posting! I personally really like this idea. Gaia has a rather
concise idea to express - beauty of nature through digital art. It's much
easier to express than openness or humanity or ubuntu philosophy or
something like that. I'd love to see such themes adopted by the Free
Here is a mock
uphttp://farm6.static.flickr.com/5207/5278286962_ba0d9ace8e_b.jpgmock up
with configurable icons.
Thoughts?
Looks nice, but takes up too much screen space and duplicates breadcrumbs,
IMHO.
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Well there is the next logical idea, to make the backgrounds look like the
website backgrounds.
I don't like it. Software center should look as native and desktop-ish as
possible. I like the way it's done in Unity Maverick, but I also understand
that it's not an option for Natty. So if I were
Thanks, Vish! I hope it will work.
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2010/12/20 Charlie Kravetz c...@teamcharliesangels.comIf it looks like
unity/Ubuntu, what about the rest of the derivatives
that also include it? Kubuntu/Xubuntu/Edubuntu all use this Software
Center. Would it not be better to be a little bit neutral?
Hmm, you're right. Even if we make a
I'm not opposed to a single pool for non-photo wallpapers, if you are
that eager, but please not several.
+1
I would also lean towards keeping it
open, that is: not tied to a release.
+100500
I expect that at least one person (ideally at least 2, one as fallback),
volunteers for packaging
I would also lean towards keeping it
open, that is: not tied to a release.
+100500
Ugh, I mean... Look at the default wallpaper pool. It has thousands of
submissions and uses one pool for all releases. We won't have that many
submissions, and it's good to have everything in one place,
Hello everyone,
I want to add my two cents because I've been a wiki admin for 1,5 years, and
there are established and time-proved traditions of handling proposals and
making decisions. I'll try to provide a summary of them:
1. Every collaborative task must be proposed to wider audience and
Matthew,
Is there a way to use GTK theme colors? You know, white background looks too
bright in dark themes, and the blue color used in Maverick is neutral and
unobtrusive, but doesn't feel consistent with the rest of the desktop.
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As for me, I do have time to read the list and post my thoughts, but I don't
have time to look through some specs, dig out the links, and check if there
are any new submissions in the groups. And even if I bookmark it it would be
rather difficult to remember to do it because it doesn't fit in my
I really like your approach - silhouettes on textured background. It looks
balanced and professional, with no snazzy eyecandy. This type of pics will
never become old-fashioned. And it's quite symbolic, too.
Lubuntu wallpaper is especially cheerful and expressive, but I think would
be better
2010/12/8 Vishnoo v...@ubuntu.com
http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-date-format
Since obviously option 1 has its pit-fall of not being
international-friendly, let's go with option 2 : 1 February 2010
Or if we want to keep it short : 1 Feb 2010 / 2010, 1 Feb
+1 (or shall I put
Language Barrier seems to be a very common concern. As the maintainer of
Humanity icon theme I have often been contacted directly by a few other
members who have mentioned the English language as a barrier for
participation. I have also noticed the same problem being mentioned in
other
Hello everyone,
I have a draft of the community toolkit page:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Shnatsel/CommunityToolkit
Feel free to edit it!
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So, we do have a default artwork task open :
The OpenOffice Splash Screens Need Updating
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/645819
I thought Natty will include LibreOffice. And I think we should wait for
their final logo and design the splash after it's finished. But we still
have several
Sergey,
This is great. There is certainly no reason why we can't do our part to
reduce paper cuts. Ivanka blogged about it
http://design.canonical.com/2010/11/paper-cuts-need-you/ here .
Thoughts on the best approach?
John
Rebranding will require tweaks to the engine, so I guess I will
Hello!
It's better to discuss on Ayatana mailing list, I think. Concepts going
beyond visual design into functionality are better handled by the Ayatana
project https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana.
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Hello everyone,
I've just tried to start working on redesigning packages.ubuntu.com, and I
realized that there should be some CSS implementing Ubuntu website
guidelines, and that I have no idea where to look for it. SVG source for
Ubuntu pictographs seems to be released, but I have no idea where
At the moment there isn't a core CSS library that anyone can pick and use
on their sites that integrates the Ubuntu brand guidelines. We are looking
into it now, as we feel it's important and useful. We'll make sure to keep
you posted as this develops.
Thanks! I'll postpone my
For the translation, if you can locate the launchpad project, there
will be a Help translate option on the righthand side of the project
overview page.
Yes, I know it, but the problem is I can't locate the project.
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2010/11/23 Richard H Lee richard@canonical.com
On 23/11/10 17:25, Сергей wrote:
Yes, I know it, but the problem is I can't locate the project.
I'm not sure about the wiki, but the loco project is located here:
https://launchpad.net/loco-directory/
You can modify the translations from
Hello,
To tell the truth, I have no idea what these logos represent. The first one
shows some text... with what? And I can undertand that it's text only after
I know that it's related to office. The second one shows a gear and
something unrecognizable for me. Gears usually scare away
Web interface to Ubuntu repositories, http://packages.ubuntu.com/, needs
rebranding to conform the new Ubuntu branding.
Frank Lichtenheld fr...@lichtenheld.de maintains this website. Information
about upstream developers can be found at at
http://packages.ubuntu.com/about/.
I guess this should be
Hello everyone!
Here's another thing to add to our Tasks page: it's Ubuntu-branded apps
initiative led by Scott Ritchie. It first appeared in Karmic, but Ubuntu
branding has changed since then, so half of artwork created for Karmic needs
updating. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/branding for more
I do not know the intent or the desired outcome of the authors of
screenshots.debian.net, but drawing a conclusion from the URL I assume
the
desire was to offer Debian users a method to showcase their desktop.
No. In fact, it's a repository of *application* screenshots. It's intended
to give
How about one of these for the header?
http://www.foopics.com/showfull/f2a80d3cd8f3a1a388a2b0a53aaa96ac
It looks clean and balanced, but seems confusing for me. It makes me think
it's a website for screenshots of Ubuntu itself, not a repository of
previews for its applications. I'd rather use
Wait, isn't it rather the case that screenshots.ubuntu.com actually
serves screenshots.debian.net? This would not stay this way, then.
Hmm... looks like it is. Screenshots.debian.net aggregates Ubuntu
repositories as well as Debian ones.
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Hello everyone!
I've just posted a poll idea to OMG! Ubuntu!, let's wait and see if people
still want animal wallpapers.
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I used people advise for making forums icons from the pictograms, and made
some changes. What do people think (www.mikesplanet.net/forums)
I think it's better to remove speech dots from the no new posts icon. An
icon with a question mark also seems an odd icon for a category.
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2010/11/15 Mike Basinger mike.basin...@ubuntu.com
The question mark was the best I could find.
Maybe an aquarium (like at http://start.ubuntu.com/10.10/Google/, community
link) would be better?
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I've just googled for symbols of unity. Maybe something like
thishttp://www.astromeridian.ru/assets/images/magija/9/image062.gifor
thishttp://www.shutterstock.com/pic-27519322/stock-vector-celtic-wedding-band-or-corporate-unity-symbol.htmlin
a circle (like the circle around CoF) would fit.
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** This community site is run on ideatorrent software. This request should
come from the community as it may involve some coding.
Actually, it does: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/26349/
3. update and improve hwdb.ubuntu.com look
** Agreed, who
Does it make sense to request moving the Ubuntu mailing list archives to the
new Nabble2 site? Apparently all it takes is to submit a request.
If the migration doesn't remove us from ubuntu category
(http://old.nabble.com/Ubuntu-f12717.html) or break anything, I'm sure
we shall migrate to the
Hello everyone!
I've put together a small list of possible tasks for the nearest future:
- update checkbox-gtk header with the new Ubuntu logo
- update Ubuntu brainstorm look and feel
- update and improve hwdb.ubuntu.com look
- design a better unity logo (?)
Where shall I put it?
I have no plans for that icon, it's just a doodle with several rough edges.
Do whatever you want with it.
Speaking of your design, Ubuntu logo looks weird with flat color background
on that perspective-transformed part of the box. It should be a
left-to-right gradient, darker and a bit less
Current Compiz logo is
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Compiz_logo.svg, right?
BTW the doodle just got a bit fixed and improved. The URL is the same:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279564/Compiz_Unity.svg
Another thing I don't like in box concept is pasting flat logo on the
Hi!
I've made a custom version of this logo, based on Compiz current one. See
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279564/Compiz_Unity.svg
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We could also use spreadubuntu.org engine, I think the only thing it lacks
is explicit linking to images on which a work is based, but that doesn't
seem that hard to add. I don't think openclipart.org-like remix button
approach is a good idea. An image can be based on several works, all of them
Samples section is empty for me now. Remixes section holds all items.
I also get a cchost.js (5): SyntaxError: unterminated regular expression
literal error when I open any artwork details page.
I'm logged in with Launchpad OpenID, I didn't change anything in profile
except for full name.
Hope
Hello everyone,
I made some very basic concept designs, I'm afraid they're non-release
quality but I hope they'll encourage brainstorming.
Based on Human icon set:
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279564/artwork_team_1.svg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5279564/artwork_team_2.svg
Based on GNOME icon set:
Launchpad has its own application similar to SparkleShare: it's Ground
Control. See https://launchpad.net/groundcontrol and
http://ground-control.org/ for details.
IMHO, a version control system is usable for designers if it supports at
least thumbnail view in web frontend and downloading
I guess it's better to put a checkbox there, like it was in Rhythmbox
indicator applet, like it's now in Transmission indicator applet etc. After
those applets users expect it to be there. And empty space is confusing and
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Have a look at Ubuntu Waves wallpaper:
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Devos+Ubuntu+Waves+-+1920x1080?content=129270
2010/9/24 Jakob Pfister jakob.pfis...@googlemail.com:
Hi,
i think the background should consist of waves. So the narwhal-subject would
be better adressed.
If i find some
it will prevent users from entering filesystem and deleting any important
sys files
Users can't delete important system files anyway.
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2010/4/8 iceman snowman theoldfighter...@yahoo.com
You would think that after all these years, there would be a more humane
way of making themes. :P I feel it's unnecessarily complex. I'm no
programmer, so I'm just gonna throw this out there: Will 3 (Shell) feature a
non-idiotic way of making
Sergei,
I really like your design for Gwibber. Even a purple icon would be nice
too.
Regards, Dave
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 5:03 PM, Сергей shnat...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello everybody,
I'm new to this list and I'm not sure if it's the right thing to post
such
ideas
Here's the purple version: http://shnatsel.narod.ru/gwibber_purple.svg It
got a bit darker and should fit the new dark theme.
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Now, in terms of getting it included in the distro, the gwibber package
page [1] shows
the maintainer as the Ubuntu core developers. So either ask the question
via Launchpad (you have a link on page [1]) or send an email to the
ubuntu-devel mailing list and someone should be able to tell you
Hello everybody,
I'm new to this list and I'm not sure if it's the right thing to post such
ideas, but creating a separate page in /Incoming for such a trifle seems
ridiculous.
I've been testing Lucid beta-1 recently and noticed Gwibber pre-installed in
it. I liked the program, but its icon seemed
98 matches
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