Re: It's time to jettison CCSM
Jorge O. Castro schreef op do 26-01-2012 om 11:28 [-0500]: > MyUnity is a better user-facing tool anyway for those that want to > play Based on the screenshots I found, the auto-generated UI of CCSM for the Unity plugin is actually better (more understandable by normal users) than the MyUnity UI. That doesn't sound like an improvement to me... (I hope I was looking at screenshots of an outdated version of it?) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: It's time to jettison CCSM
Alan Bell schreef op do 26-01-2012 om 17:21 [+]: > The suggestion to drop ccsm as a whole does feel a bit like "Unity > doesn't work right with other plugins, lets get rid of all the others" > when educating Unity to play nice with it's friends would be a much > better solution. +1 on that Also, many people use CCSM because of bugs[*] and deficiencies[*] in the "Unity experience" (the selection of default compiz plugins for Unity), not because they like to break their system. And it doesn't seem like MyUnity addresses all those bugs & problems... Actually, based on screenshots it seems like CCSM's auto-generated UI is more understandable than that of MyUnity (although I might have seen an outdated screenshot--I hope so). [*] yes, the most important ones have bug reports on Launchpad. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: It's time to jettison CCSM
Marc Deslauriers schreef op do 26-01-2012 om 12:26 [-0500]: > Those are the exact places that are telling novices to install CCSM in > the first place :P At least partially because Ubuntu *removed* the tools that allowed end-user-friendly settings in recent releases...? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Suggestions for Ubuntu 11.10
Omal Mannapperuma schreef op ma 16-05-2011 om 13:57 [+0530]: > I would like to see the following options integrated into Ubuntu 11.10 to > make it more user friendly than any other versions. > > 1) Ability to search within a folder, just by right clicking on the folder, > and select "search for files and folders" Would be nice. > 2) Make K3B as the default CD/DVD burning application, and if possible, add > Blu-Ray burning as well into it. Still the application lacks with the > feature to burn bootable CD/DVDs of any kind, so I would be most delighted > to see that being integrated into it as well. There are other tools than K3B, that don't require KDE, and that are more user-friendly (IMO). > 3) Make available a single location to enter Proxy settings, and let that be > spread throughout the system, without any interaction from the user any > further. +1 on that. And it should work across working environments too (GNOME, KDE, XFCE, LXDE, terminal, etc.). > 4) Assign a drive letter to the partitions detected by Ubuntu, rather than > 120GB partition or anything like that. If you give your partitions a "label", Ubuntu will use that. Best use a meaningful label... ;) Drive letters tend to change after changes to the hardware or when you attach USB devices in a different order, so they are a bad idea for a user interface. [...] > The reason is, most computer users are much familiar with Windows, and in > Windows, they see a much clearer view of their data than in Linux. Because > of drive letters, it is easier to remember where the data are located. That's not true. Windows always assigns C: to the boot partition, so if you boot from another partition, C: will point to another location. USB devices or other swappable devices also don't always get the same "drive letter". [...] -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Suggest fixing the skip-keys in Totem.
James Tatum schreef op zo 15-05-2011 om 10:15 [-0700]: > Disproportionate skips are a very easy way to navigate clips. If > you're trying to get to a specific thing, you skip forward until you > pass it, then you have the finer grained control skipping back to get > closer to the desired spot. With a proportionate 60 second skip, at > best you could get within 60 seconds of the desired point without > having to remember whether you want to use shift-arrow or > control-arrow for the finer grained control. Many commercial DVRs are > configured with disproportionate skips today for exactly this reason. Right, this is very useful (once you get used to it). The only thing that could be done better is adapting to the length of a clip; when you have 1-3 min clip, skipping forward 60 seconds by default is way too much... -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04
Jan Claeys schreef op za 23-04-2011 om 02:49 [+0200]: > BTW: I've already seen developers who include code in their > application to whitelist itself. As Jorge asked me on IRC what applications are doing this... http://www.fewt.com/2011/03/whitelist-utility-script-to-allow-apps.html is one example of this (with another person in the comments indicating he will do it too). This was linked from a quite popular Ubuntu/Linux news site BTW... (I've read a similar comment on some other blog too, but can't find it right now.) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04
Martin Pitt schreef op vr 08-04-2011 om 08:52 [+0200]: > Rick Spencer [2011-04-07 18:38 -0700]: > > 1. There are key feature regressions, for example, there is no systray > > support for many important applications. > > For the record, this is currently purely a design decision, not a > technical problem. Unity does have a systray, but most applications > are not allowed to use it. The current exception list is AFAIR Java > applications, Skype, and Mumble. > > If this is a major issue, then frankly I'd rather just remove the > whitelist and allow all old-style systray applications than dropping > Unity by default completely. One problem is that there is no easy-to-use or easy-to-find way for the user to review and whitelist (or blacklist) the applications that are trying to use the old-style notification area, so "whitelist all" is the only way not to break people's favourite applications... BTW: I've already seen developers who include code in their application to whitelist itself. One reason is that currently AppIndicators lack many features that they need (or want to use). Some applications that *have* an AppIndicator in Ubuntu have also lost usability & features that users depended on (e.g. Tomboy). -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04 - User testing results
Jeremy Bicha schreef op di 19-04-2011 om 15:37 [-0400]: > On 19 April 2011 15:13, Jan Claeys wrote: > > Matthew Paul Thomas schreef op di 19-04-2011 om 15:55 [+0100]: > >> * The object of the study was, obviously, not to measure crashes. > >> Crashes are usually quick to find and fix, so any user test of those > >> would be weeks out of date when published. I mentioned them only as > >> a reminder that to users, bugs are indistinguishable from design > >> flaws, and vice versa. (For example, one test participant pressed > >> Ctrl Alt F1 apparently by accident, and ended up at a console. This > >> wasn't a crash, but it had exactly the same effect as one.) > > > > Maybe we need to add a line of text above the login prompt somehow, that > > tells the user what key to press to get back to their GUI? (This might > > be difficult to do correctly with multiple logins etc. though?) > > We could do like Fedora and have X on virtual terminal 1. Why do we > need 6 virtual terminals anyway? I'm sure that's a possibility, but you still need more than 1 VT anyway, e.g. when more than one user is logged in. And developers might need the virtual text consoles, while maybe their machine is also used by inexperienced people at other times. Maybe it would be better to just disable all the Alt+Ctrl+Fx keys by default, with an option to enable them in the keyboard configuration (similar to what was done with Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Default Desktop Experience for 11.04 - User testing results
Matthew Paul Thomas schreef op di 19-04-2011 om 15:55 [+0100]: > * The object of the study was, obviously, not to measure crashes. > Crashes are usually quick to find and fix, so any user test of those > would be weeks out of date when published. I mentioned them only as > a reminder that to users, bugs are indistinguishable from design > flaws, and vice versa. (For example, one test participant pressed > Ctrl Alt F1 apparently by accident, and ended up at a console. This > wasn't a crash, but it had exactly the same effect as one.) Maybe we need to add a line of text above the login prompt somehow, that tells the user what key to press to get back to their GUI? (This might be difficult to do correctly with multiple logins etc. though?) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Thoughts about Unity and some ideas for improvement
Jo-Erlend Schinstad schreef op di 19-04-2011 om 15:56 [+0200]: > 2: workspaces as "contexts" > > Workspaces doesn't currently seem very useful to me. It can be nice if > you have windows layed out in a certain way, but other than that, I > don't think I'll use them very much. I think they would be very much > more useful and user friendly if the super-w didn't display windows > from other workspaces, but was limited only to the current workspace > like alt+tab is. You can fix this with CCSM by changing the keybindings for the compiz "Scale" plugin if you want. > I always use workspaces as "contexts". That is, I > have a workspace where I do general stuff like surfing and chatting > with friends for no particular purpose. I also have one workspace that > I use when I play guitar and sing, etc, I have one for managing my > network of physical and virtual machines and one I use for > development. I work with different files and websites in these > contexts so I open new instances of Nautilus and Firefox. This is > probably the only time I open more than one instance of these > applications since both supports tabs very well. > For my workflow, it would be extremely useful if the launcher and > super-w was "context aware" so that pressing super-1 would open only > the Nautilus relevant to my current work and super-2 would switch to > my relevant Firefox. That is to say that if I'm in my general context > with Firefox and Nautilus open, then switch to a new context, pressing > super-1 and super-2 would open new instances of those applications, > and then later switch between those instances in this context only. > When switching between contexts, the default browser in the context > you switch to should be set as the one to open links. (This has been a > problem for me for ages). Opening a link from gnome-terminal in my > Guitar context should never result in the link being opened in my VM > Management context, for instance. This helps me stay focused on my > current tasks. +1000 from me on fixing that behaviour for Firefox etc. :) (I think it might require more workspace-awareness by the applications themselves and/or maybe the GUI toolkits though?) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Shall we hide the GUI for Hibernate in Natty?
Rick Spencer schreef op ma 31-01-2011 om 11:04 [-0800]: > The reasoning for hiding Hibernate includes: > 1. It doesn't work well for many users on many machines. So do lots of other features, including suspend to RAM. Not using hibernate by default could be a good idea, but disabling it goes a bit too far IMO (and by "disable" I mean remove it from the GUI entirely). > 2. It's very slow. Personally I don't care about that. It's slow on every OS, and if it works you don't really need to care about the time. > 3. It's not as useful because users can just suspend. Except that some hardware runs out of battery very quickly (anything less than a day I consider "quick"), even when you "just suspend". > 4. The difference between hibernate and suspend is confusing. It's not confusing when using a working hybrid suspend... > 5. There is a lot of work involved with verifying that Hibernates > works and fixing bugs to ensure that it works. This work is not always > completed, and the work that does get done can be channeled to other > useful areas. (In other words, fewer bugs through fewer features to > support). I think most "hibernate bugs" are related to the lack of (re)storing state in hardware drivers. Fixing that for most of the kernel & drivers will require a lot of work. I wonder if it's possible to do a static source analysis over the linux device drivers, and get a list of potentially problematic drivers for suspend out of that? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Beautiful awesomeness ---stupidity?---
Op zondag 07-03-2010 om 16:09 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Dylan McCall: > PS: Anyone know what happened to the context menu on right clicking > the window title bar? It works as before. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Review of featured applications
Op maandag 01-03-2010 om 18:04 uur [tijdzone +1100], schreef Robert Ancell: > The criteria from the specification are: > > * Is available in main or universe > * Is a GUI app > * Does not replace a default application > * Does not replace another featured application > * Is well designed for the task and robust > > In addition, I looked for the following points: > > * The application has an icon and an appropriate name > * The installation can be performed from the Application Center and > no additional configuration is required > * After clicking on the application icon it must be simple to start > using the application. I made an exception for applications that > have good documentation/access to tutorials (e.g. GIMP, Blender) > * Bonus points for small download > These applications seemed really good candidates: [snip] I think you are missing TuxPaint here (including the default packages with plugins & stamps, even if the stamps are a quite big package, they make TuxPaint a lot more interesting). If it weren't for TuxPaint, my little nieces (4-6yo) probably won't use Ubuntu (and of course I "forgot" to tell them about the Windows version ;) ). I think this is really one of the most undervalued open source applications for kids (or maybe not, as it's already in main). -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Need some assistance...
Op dinsdag 19-05-2009 om 21:24 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Tim Zakharov: > I always use the alternate install CD as it is quicker to install than > the live CD Actually, in most cases the live-CD installer is faster than the alternative CD installer... (If you only have 256 MiB of RAM it will probably be faster to use the alternative installer though.) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: OpenSSL security fix for human beings
Op woensdag 14-05-2008 om 21:13 uur [tijdzone -0700], schreef Dylan McCall: > I think, on the usability front, a nice thing with > GNOME (and Ubuntu by extension) is not belittling the user. That is, > never presenting information the user does not know about and then > telling him to just ignore it because "it means nothing to him". If > information means nothing to the user, it should not be waved under his > nose. If it does mean something to the user, it should be presented > clearly. The result: Users get used to reading what is on screen instead > of frantically avoiding scary technical information. [...] > Still, it seems odd to me that openssh-client, openssh-server and > openssl would all be saying essentially the same thing with varying > levels of complexity. The fixes & changes have different results in different situations. I think, because of that, it's difficult to do this 100% right... (E.g. server admins vs. home users.) > What I am really concerned about here is how capable our existing > infrastructure for major security updates is of being user friendly. I > suppose the update script wanted me to run that command myself since it > is running as root (so it would be bad for it to do that), which does > expose some problems: Here an updater that needs to change something for > a user is giving the user instructions that it should seemingly be able > to follow itself. The update script is already running as root. The given command had to be run *before* logging on again anyway, as it shows the new SSH host (= server) key's fingerprint that you need to make sure you're logging on into the right server. > Furthermore, good Vulcan logic dictates that critical security > updates > should not be slowed down for the sake of usability review. Which is probably why things weren't as good as they "should" be... ;-) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Please remove Software Sources from the menus, it's destructive.
Op dinsdag 26-02-2008 om 14:41 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jo-Erlend Schinstad: > I think you may have misunderstood. The Software Sources dialog is > part of Synaptic. Technically, it's *not* a part of Synaptic, but Synaptic uses it when it's available... -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: [Bug 161960] Re: Add function to WinKey button on keyboard
Op donderdag 21-02-2008 om 11:37 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Klaus Bitto: > Actually, I've never seen any keybord with the text "start" on Super L > (or R). > It's always the windows logo. > (I've seen a single one with tux on there, though!) Cherry has more than one model with Tux on it. What we really need though, is a keyboard with an Ubuntu logo! ;) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Getting a usability patch into gnome-panel package?
Op donderdag 07-02-2008 om 09:39 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef William Lachance: > That being said, the lock option for individual applets seems quite > useless. All it does is make it so you can't move an applet without > the toggle in the context menu, but you can only move the applet by > opening up the context menu anyway Middle click + drag moves panel applets too (if they aren't locked). -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: I hope people are paying attention...
Op donderdag 31-01-2008 om 15:37 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Nanley Chery: > Just wondering, has anyone taken a look at the wiki page? I just added some comments. :) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: I hope people are paying attention...
Op zaterdag 26-01-2008 om 10:58 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Nanley Chery: > I think we should discuss menu items to be removed (or apps to > merged?) and make an honest effort to have sane menus. To start, I > think the Avahi VNC Server Browser item should be removed from > Internet because its functionality already exists in the "Find" button > in Vinagre, the VNC client. There is also a panel applet that allows access to all services discovered by Avahi. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
Op donderdag 17-01-2008 om 22:29 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Jo-Erlend Schinstad: > On 17/01/2008, Jan Claeys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Op dinsdag 15-01-2008 om 11:51 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Wouter > > Stomp: > > > I would also like to argue for this: Brasero does everything n-c-b > > > does, and more. > > > > Does it provide all the context menu stuff in nautilus which I think is > > actually n-c-b's strongest point? > If you mean write to disk, then that's just a matter of adding the > entry to the menu. You can burn an image to disk by running "brasero > -i ", and you can burn the contents of the CD/DVD Writer > window with "brasero -ncb", etc. I was talking about the context menu for e.g. *.iso files (burn to disk) and when a mounted CD/DVD is selected (which allows you to copy it to another CD or make an image from it). Maybe there are some other integration things too that i don't use. If Brasero is going to replace n-c-b, care should be taken to make sure we don't lose any of this functionality. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Proposal: include Brasero by default
Op dinsdag 15-01-2008 om 11:51 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Wouter Stomp: > I would also like to argue for this: Brasero does everything n-c-b > does, and more. Does it provide all the context menu stuff in nautilus which I think is actually n-c-b's strongest point? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Ubuntu is too big
Op maandag 14-01-2008 om 20:26 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Corey Burger: > The problem with needed cds also comes down to bandwidth. For the > "developed" world, bandwidth doesn't matter much Actually, it matters a lot in Belgium too; because of the lack of real competition on the market here, we have the lowest average data cap in the OECD reports (see: <http://www.oecd.org/sti/ict/broadband> and especially <http://www.oecd.org/dataoecd/22/46/39575020.xls>). I'm absolutely sure the problem is much worse in most of Africa etc., but it's not only an issue there... -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Too many printing apps
Op donderdag 06-12-2007 om 02:06 uur [tijdzone -0500], schreef Nanley Chery: > As of now, we have three printing applications: one for Managing Print > Jobs, another for setting the Default Printer, and another for managing > Printing settings. Respectively, these entries exist under Accessories, > Preferences, and Administration; this is excessive. There is a global printer settings dialog and a user-specific dialog to set the default printer (possibly different from the system-default printer). I guess the print job manager could be hidden from the menus, as it's available through its status panel icon? [...] > The only hurdle is that the Printing app is a tool requiring root > privileges and the others don't. It may be (by design) that the other > two apps were provided for non-admin users to manage their printing > preferences and jobs. If this is the case, would it be possible to have > the Printing app globally accessible, requiring a password only when > some options are chosen? or even multiple printing profiles? I understand that PolicyKit should allow this in the future. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Panel resizing
Op zondag 18-11-2007 om 09:36 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Vincent Untz: > We never scale icons in the panel. For a panel with a size between > 24px and 31px, we use the 24px with some padding around it. For 32 to > 47, we use the 32px icon with some padding, etc. Is that also true for .svg icons? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: DisplayConfigGtk
Op donderdag 15-11-2007 om 12:57 uur [tijdzone +1300], schreef Matthew Paul Thomas: > That said, after reading this thread I don't understand the use case > for applying settings only for the current session anyway. I suggest > addressing that question first, as it will help you compose the rest > of the design. Hm, I can see a possible use case for that when (re)configuring a system for use with an LCD projector or similar. Most of these only work with 800x600, 1024x768 and/or 1280x1024, while a very large number of laptops are sold with 1280x800 screens these days. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Turning the low disk space notifications back on
Op vrijdag 09-11-2007 om 23:36 uur [tijdzone -0800], schreef Corey Burger: > During the dapper cycle, gnome-volume-manager gained the ability to > warn on low disk space. It was turned off due to a deluge of > complaints. Given these notifcations are actually fairly useful, maybe > we should tweak the policy and turn them back on for Hardy, at least > during the dev cycle. Basically, there are two major use cases that I > can see: warning when / is getting full and warning when your > removable disk is getting full. > > What do other people think? I can't see any problem with enabling this during the development cycle. Either the resulting problems/annoyances get resolved and we can keep it, or they don't get resolved and we disable it? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: connexion window (in administration menu) is not optimal
Op vrijdag 19-10-2007 om 14:29 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Daniel Chapman: > > "from user point of view it makes non sense : > > - to have to enter a password to desactivate a sound > > - to have 2 differents menu entries to tweak (furthermore : one is in > > preferences menu, the other one is in administration menu) > > - to search in accessibilty tab the option to desactivate this specific > > sound This sound is an accessibility feature (without it, blind people can't know when to type their username/password). > > Also, GDM themes should be configurable from System>Preferences, > > Appearance" > I agree with both of these points. > > I know the correct place to change the GDM theme, but if i don't concentrate > hard enough, i always find myself going into the Appearance/Theme section. If > this is > happening, then you know that's the place it should be found in. The problem is then when multiple users use the same PC: who is allowed to change the login screen? Considering that changing this might result in security issues, I don't think it's strange to find it in the "Administration" menu. OTOH, maybe the "Appearance" panel could have a button to the login screen settings that's only visible to people who are members of the 'admin' group. (So it would still require root credentials.) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Default list of search engines in Deskbar
Op maandag 08-10-2007 om 17:45 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Ian Jackson: > When we choose default search we are sending a very strong message to > our users that this search is in our opinion good and trustworthy. Well, I guess we'll have to make a pro (quality) & contra (evilness) decision. > There is one obvious entry missing: a BBC News search. There's > probably only room for one news search and the BBC would make sense as > probably the most neutral and reliable. I consider something like <http://www.newsnow.co.uk/> to be more neutral by definition... (AFAIK they were the first to index news sources from all over the world, and thus provide users with a much more diverse view on things.). OTOH, I have no idea who's behind this company, and they don't allow multi-keyword searches outside of the presets for free. > For what it's worth I prefer Debian's approach to this: Debian don't > seem inclined to try to make money in this way and will just do what > they consider best for their users - and by forgoing pursuit of the > financial rewards of particular choices, they ensure that their > decision can be made solely on the proper basis without the risk of > being `bought', subconsciously or otherwise, and without coming to > rely on income from such an arrangement. There could be an (easily recognisable) package that sets things like this, but can be removed (or not installed) by users if they want. (And there could be alternative packages in universe.) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Default list of search engines in Deskbar
Op maandag 08-10-2007 om 17:00 uur [tijdzone +0200], schreef Vincent Untz: > IMHO, this list (and the default) should be localizable: Google might > be the preferred search engine in some places and Yahoo! might be > somewhere else. Amazon might not exist in some languages and some > countries have similar webshops which are more used. Etc. +1 For example, buying something from the "wrong" Amazon site might cost you a lot in terms of import taxes. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Fast-user-switch-applet not on panel by default
Op donderdag 04-10-2007 om 21:33 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Tristan Wibberley: > I think the difference between launcher, applet, and status notification > needs to be more obvious and some sanitising wouldn't go amiss. > > For example, GAIM uses a status notification icon to access the > application whilst it's running - so I can't move it anywhere unless I > move all my notifications. It also doesn't make sense for the icon to be > something that shows after going to Applications->Internet->Gaim... > rather Gaim should just be an applet. The Evolution contact list could > offer to give you Gaim (from an address card with a handle on a > supported service) as well as gnome-open when opening an irc: uri, etc. There was a telepathy applet like that (but it got replaced by empathy's status icon). > Similarly for Tomboy. Why does the use case for an adhoc note-keeper > involve starting a search program/recently used list before I can just > add a damned note ? Tomboy should be a launcher or applet (doesn't much > matter which in this case since it isn't doing anything between clicks > and keypresses). That's why I use the Tomboy panel applet. :) > It would be nice to stick the Evolution contact list on as a launcher by > default too. I think deskbar-applet provides this? -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: rss reader by default?
Op vr, 08-09-2006 te 14:47 -0400, schreef Matthew Nicholson: > So, i've been wondering this for a while. Why doesn't ubuntu provide a > rss reader by default? I know firefox can do it, but, I mean a REAL > rss reading application, not just some live bookmarks. > > Liferea is my personal choice(for Gnome, of course), and, as far as I > know, doesn't require anything that isn't already in the basic > desktop. Liferea is unusably slow if you read a lot of feeds... (Maybe some of the other feedreaders are better, but I didn't find a really good feedreader until now yet.) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Shipping fspot instead of gthumb
Op di, 18-07-2006 te 19:47 +0200, schreef Sebastien Bacher: > On dim, 2006-07-16 at 16:59 +0200, Lionel Dricot wrote: > > Gthumb is not the best but is still the less worst for me. F-spot is > > not, IMHO, in the gnome spirit. I don't want to "import" things. > > You already do "import" photos, have you tried to plug a camera on > Ubuntu? It does use gthumb for that since warty ... Gthumb only "imports" from USB-PTP and some other cameras, but not if you have a USB-MS camera; it will show the contents of that USB-MS device as if it were an ordinary disk... -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: Restoring the Lock Screen menu item
On za, 2006-07-15 at 01:12 -0400, JoE wrote: > Sorry, but I don't seem to have m,uch of an option. the mail I get > lacks a reply-to option for the list and gmail doesn't have it built > in. I'm doing the best I can with what I have. What I did back when I used such a mail client was pressing Reply-To-All and then edit the headers manually to remove the author... ;-) -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: gnome taskbar
Op do, 15-06-2006 te 03:48 -0400, schreef dan trevino: > I know this is a GNOME issue, not an Ubuntu one, but IMO, there needs to > be a discussion on the taskbar, system tray, and notifications. > > As was brought up recently on OSnews, there are some issues with the > taskbar. ( http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=14811 ) Recently on > Ubuntu blog, there was a post regarding a tool call 'alltray', which > enables any application to be minimized to the system tray. Something I > just happened to be looking for at the time. Its a nice tool, but only > works one app at a time. > ( > http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/05/24/minimize-any-application-to-the-system-tray/ > ) > > IMO, this 'minimize to an icon' functionality should be the default for > all applications. It would solve the variable size taskbar issue (if it > really is one). Basically this would amount to not showing the app > title in the taskbar. It would also get rid of some inconsistencies. > For example, why does gaim go to the system tray, but epiphany doesn't? > I know gaim doesn't _have_ to go there, but you get my point. How is > the behavior of gaim or amarok or whatever sitting in the system tray > any different from firefox or openoffice when they are minimized? A app > running is an app running, no? The "systray" (actually named "notification area") is for applications that have/want to show status information. (Often, these applications do not have a window open all the time.) The "taskbar" is one possible way to show a list of windows (there is at least one other widget with the same function in GNOME). When you click "minimize" applications should never close their window, because that's what the "close" button is for. Please note that the close button closes windows, not applications, although closing the last window of an application _might_ also close the application, but doesn't _have_ to close the application. -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: no more irc chat client
Op ma, 06-03-2006 te 11:09 -0800, schreef Matt Zimmerman: > Both Usenet and IRC have traditionally been arcane systems used almost > exclusively by computer hobbyists. I agree about Usenet, but IRC is the most popular "group chat" protocol here in Flanders/Belgium, so it's really not (only) a "hobbyist" thing (there is a large "asl?" crowd too ;-) ). -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
Re: For those who care about the notification-daemon
Op wo, 25-01-2006 te 14:32 +0100, schreef Oliver Grawert: > why do we need a click at all ? if the bubble would react on mouse-in > mouse-out events, you'd have to only move the mouse over the bubble to > close it ... That sounds really annoying to me, especially when you want to click something below the "bubble", you have to move your mouse away and back... -- Jan Claeys -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop
