[ubuntu-studio-devel] Adding gimp-python to pre-installed packages

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi all,

I hope this is not redundant, but what do you think about adding gimp-python to 
the pre-installable US-packages?

I've just noticed that the Resynthesize Healing-plugins weren't available in 
GIMP and thought this was because of the gimp-plugin-registry at first. After 
re-installing, I still didn't have them in the filter-list and found out after 
searching online that was due to gimp-python not being installed.

I don't know how pupular they are, but for me they are basically a 
bread-and-butter tool for quickly picking up dirt from the ground or cleaning a 
background just by using selection and hotkeys, I can only imagine it being 
confusing if someone else got used to them.


PS: I also just saw that xiccd is already installed and the new Xfce display 
color management just works out of the box, very cool!


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] UbuntuStudio Installer Error (Was: Ubuntu Studio 19.10: Autoremove deleted my whole system)

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hello Erich, good to read you.

On Friday, 29 November 2019 17:40, Erich Eickmeyer  
wrote:
> This is the list for development collaboration, not support, and this is
> very much a support issue.

Oh, I'm sorry. I wasn't sure where to draw the line, because it seemed closely 
tied to the installation/packaging system. But good to know what exactly is 
causing it and that it's a known issue, should have checked out the release 
notes beforehand.

Yes, I have deselected some programs in Ubiquity, but I specifically tried to 
keep all the metapackages (at least the ones that were marked as such), 
apparently that didn't work, however.


Erich Eickmeyer  wrote:
> Interesting. That would be a good thing to figure out. Myself and Len
> have done installs like that and never once ran into that error. I hope
> you're not mistaking the "Please log-out and log-in" dialog at the end
> for an error.

No, absolutely not.

I can only tell you right now that the following happened: I installed Kubuntu 
19.10 including updates, then "ubuntustudio-installer". I first only selected 
"linux-lowlatency", "ubuntustudio-lowlatency-settings" and 
"ubuntustudio-performance-tweaks". The installation started and halted at 
around half for a few seconds, then an error dialog appeared that looked 
similar to the restart call, but I *believe* that there was actually an error 
declared (unfortunately, I can not recall the exact message). I rebooted and 
still had the lowlatency kernel, although I had to click on "fix 
realtime-permissions" in controls (it did not add an audio group beforehand).

I did a second install and it worked right away, both were relatively "fresh" 
systems.

Now, I don't know what could have caused this, maybe even just a bad ethernet 
connection (?), I'll try to recreate it on my hardware.

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio 19.10: Autoremove deleted my whole system

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi all,

I've just installed Ubuntu Studio 19.10 after flirting around with Kubuntu a 
bit (grass-always-greener-syndrome) and decided to settle back on Xfce.

I know it's a little late for 19.10 bug reports, but after installing 
everything, I did an "apt autoremove", because I usually get some leftover 
packages after my initial setup. However, this time I accepted without looking 
too closely and it basically deleted my whole system, everything, even xinit.

I've never had this happen before. Does somebody know what could have caused 
this? Or what the issue might be related to? I'd like to avoid this happening 
at a later stage down the line when I just remove a program or something.


On a side note: While using the Ubuntu Studio Installer on Kubuntu, I got an 
error message at the end. I think it still installed everything (at least the 
kernel and made some audio tweaks), but I had to fix the realtime-config in 
Controls afterward. Unfortunately, I haven't taken any screenshots of the error 
and wasn't able to reproduce it on another clean install, but if it comes up 
again, it did happen before at least once.


Thanks and kind regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Vision for 19.10 and 20.04 LTS

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Erich and all others reading,

On 6 May 2019, 23:01,  wrote:
>  ubuntustudio-installer is now the tool to bolt-on Ubuntu Studio to
>  any other official flavor of Ubuntu. As I look at this goal I presented
>  in the link above, I feel as though we have accomplished this.

Glad to read about this update. I still feel that it's a very important step in 
the development and would like to share my sincere appreciation for everybody's 
work.

Since KXStudio is not updated currently, that leaves people who depend on old 
guides in a vulnerable situation. With the addition of these tools, I think 
it's become much easier to move to a standard Ubuntu derivative for audio work 
now. Nothing against Falk's work though, in fact, I think he should actually 
join up too.

I've used the KXS-repository myself for a long time in US, mostly for wineasio, 
since I work with Reaper in Wine and have a ton of Windows VSTs in there. I 
know that there are other solutions, but running them in Wine is the safest bet 
for me, currently.

Unfortunately, wine-rt was outdated even back when I began using US, so I 
started looking for a solution and sure enough, following this guide and just 
building it myself was easy enough: 
https://github.com/jhernberg/wineasio/issues/6

I even moved my built version to another installation and it still worked, so I 
don't know why there are no PPAs or binary downloads currently, unless I'm 
missing some kind of hurdle. It can't be that there's no demand, since threads 
about wineasio on Ubuntu are always popping up here and there.

I wonder if it's feasible to offer a version of wineasio in the US package 
somehow. If not, I'd like to add that guide to the official documentation to 
give an answer to people looking to move their Windows workflow to Ubuntu 
Studio.

Also, on a different topic, I've set up a systemwide EQ to level out my 
speakers following this guide: 
https://github.com/M4he/Linux/tree/master/JACK/PA_through_JACK

Basically, the idea is to autoload a Calf EQ plugin and use an active QjackCtl 
patchbay-automation to route all program and module outputs through the Calf EQ 
and then to the system outs, as soon as a program is opened. I wonder how that 
setup could look like using Ubuntustudio-Controls now, which is missing the 
automatic patchbay and bash-script execution as far as I'm aware. (However the 
scripts could probably be setup on system start with sleep-timers, if 
necessary.)

That became a bit longer than I wanted it to be, sorry. Thanks again everyone!

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[ubuntu-studio-devel] ISO Tests

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi all,

sorry for my radio silence recently, I've spent sunday testing the latest ISO. 
Most of the test cases worked fine, but in my live system and the first boot on 
the full install, I wasn't able to get any sound with Controls alone.

I don't know what exactly the issue was, but I had to reboot once for it to 
work (it was set to load on startup). Is this something to be expected or 
should I investigate this further? (I still have the test system installed the 
way it was.)

Otherwise, great UI. Very clear and easy to understand. I'd suggest though that 
it could be helpful to see the current Jack status (running or off), else there 
isn't a clear response from the start/restart button.

I also saw there's a new splash screen in place. It looks good, I was thinking 
about replacing the graphics on the vanilla one, which I should have done 
first, instead of creating a new one. I couldn't get the the graphics 
positions/resolution right, unfortunately. Maybe I'll be able to come up with a 
worthy replacement down the road, should've picked something more up my alley..

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Checking in, a little vision, Calf & LMMS

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Set,


On Thursday, January 3, 2019 9:41 AM, Set Sakrecoer  
wrote:
> The corrected ones are in the "current-standard" branch
> in ~ubuntustudio-art on launchpad.
>
> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntustudio-art/ubuntustudio-artwork/current-standard/files


Thank you, I'll make sure to use those assets for everything.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Checking in, a little vision, Calf & LMMS

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Erich and everyone else reading,

a happy and successful new year to all of you, too!

On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 7:39 PM, Erich Eickmeyer er...@ericheickmeyer.com 
wrote:

> I hope everyone is having a happy new year. I haven't been checking-in
> lately due to a number of things going on in my life. First, it was work
> getting busy, then it was a bit of depression onset by my resigning said
> position (they pretty much promised me that I wouldn't ever have room
> for advancement or promotion, or even being full-time).

I have also had experiences working in such positions and, without knowing your 
exact life situation, I would like offer a few words of encouragement by saying 
that although it may be difficult, it's not a bad choice to end such a 
condition in which you feel unable to move forward and I wish you the best of 
luck to find a better occupation soon!

Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

> I, for one, have started-in on ubuntustudio-installer.
> I have moved it from bzr to git, and I'm going to be working on adding a
> few entries that will enable it to be used on other flavors for
> installation of Ubuntu Studio-specific items, namely the swappiness and
> lowlatency kernel default selection in GRUB.

Is there a comprehensive list of these changes somewhere? I'm only aware of 
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudioPreparation, but that doesn't 
include much information on the system configuration to for example comply with 
Linuxaudio.org's recommended scanner-script: 
https://github.com/raboof/realtimeconfigquickscan.

I also remember reading about tweaks regarding the hardware timers on 
https://wiki.linuxaudio.org/wiki/system_configuration#timers that weren't set 
on my Ubuntu Studio system and I believe, without being able to specify 
anything right now, that there were some other configuration options from there 
on that I adopted. I personally can't assess how important those changes are, 
but I remember reading something about the lowlatency kernel not being 
necessary anymore, as all patches had been included in generic at this point. 
While I don't know the details of that and would probably stay with it for 
safety, maybe some parts of the configuration could be in need of a review? I 
might be completely wrong, but that's just something I've been asking myself 
for a while.

Erich Eickmeyer wrote:

> The other thing, which I believe Thomas was working on, was changing our
> Plymouth boot theme. I'll admit, Plymouth quite over my head. Thomas,
> have you made any progress on this?

I've had to consult with a friend of mine who's working as a programmer to get 
a basic understanding of how the themes work. I haven't touched it over the 
holidays, but I'll try to get something viewable together as soon as possible.

By the way, if anybody has got specific ideas regarding the looks of it 
already, please feel free to share them with me. Now I guess would be the time 
to discuss any ideas.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New GRUB Theme! And, progress reports anyone?

[Thomas Pfundt]

On 6 Nov 2018, 04:20, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> Let me know what you think!

Hi Erich, sorry for my late reply. My main machine is still running on 16.04 
and I just managed to install 18.10 to test it.

I like the GRUB theme. Way more fitting than the standard one. However, I 
noticed a huge black overlay appearing before boot. I don't know if that's 
normal or has to do with my GPU, but it was a bit irritating.

As far as the Plymouth screen is concerned, that should be revisited, 
definitely. On my widescreen display, the splash is completely broken regarding 
the positions of the text/background and the logo. Others don't look perfect 
either, but ours is by far the worst.

I've looked at the script and could take a shot at it to see what can be done, 
if noone's already working on it. I'm not a programmer, but I have friends who 
should be able to help out if I run against a wall. Otherwise, there's the 
option to just take another splash and replace the grapics, as well.

In the last meeting, I mentioned the possibilty of taking over social duties. 
I've made a Mastodon account, but couldn't access the arts-server, so I haven't 
contacted Eylul, yet. I'll just write her an e-mail anyway, as the interface 
should be similar, I just couldn't login with my personal account.

As far as all other profiles are concerned, I can take care of those as well, 
if I get the login data. Do I need to join a Launchpad group or have I missed 
something?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New GRUB Theme! And, progress reports anyone?

[Thomas Pfundt]

On 6 Nov 2018, 04:20, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> Let me know what you think!

Hi Erich, sorry for my late reply. My main machine is still running on 16.04 
and I just managed to install 18.10 to test it.

I like the GRUB theme. Way more fitting than the standard one. However, I 
noticed a huge black overlay appearing before boot. I don't know if that's 
normal or has to do with my GPU, but it was a bit irritating.

As far as the Plymouth screen is concerned, that should be revisited, 
definitely. I've attached a small image of what I would see on my widescreen 
display, had I activated the splash. Others don't look perfect either, but ours 
is by far the worst.

I've looked at the script and could take a shot at it to see what can be done, 
if noone's already working on it. I'm not a programmer, but I have friends who 
should be able to help out if I run against a wall. Otherwise, there's the 
option to just take another splash and replace the grapics, as well.

In the last meeting, I mentioned the possibilty of taking over social duties. 
I've made a Mastodon account, but couldn't access the arts-server, so I haven't 
contacted Eylul, yet. I'll just write her an e-mail anyway, as the interface 
should be similar, I just couldn't login with my personal account.

As far as all other profiles are concerned, I can take care of those as well, 
if I get the login data. Do I need to join a Launchpad group or have I missed 
something?

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] New GRUB Theme! And, progress reports anyone?

[Thomas Pfundt]

On 6 Nov 2018, 04:20, Erich Eichmeyer wrote:
> Let me know what you think!

Hi Erich, sorry for my late reply. My main machine is still running on 16.04 
and I just managed to install 18.10 to test it.

I like the GRUB theme. Way more fitting than the standard one. However, I 
noticed a huge black overlay appearing before boot. I don't know if that's 
normal or has to do with my GPU, but it was a bit irritating.

As far as the Plymouth screen is concerned, that should be revisited, 
definitely. I've attached a small image of what I would see on my widescreen 
display, had I activated the splash. Others don't look perfect either, but ours 
is by far the worst.

I've looked at the script and could take a shot at it to see what can be done, 
if noone's already working on it. I'm not a programmer, but I have friends who 
should be able to help out if I run against a wall. Otherwise, there's the 
option to take another splash and replace the grapics, as well.

In the last meeting, I mentioned the possibilty of taking over social duties. 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Plasma Desktop

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Mark,

on Tuesday, October 30, 2018 3:10 AM, Mark Constable wrote:
> I recently read that Ubuntu Studio may be adopting the Plasma
> Desktop, or at least adding it as an "official" option. Is this
> correct and if so is there anywhere I can follow the progress
> of this transition?

That not exactly correct.

Offering Plasma as an alternative desktop environment was discussed as one 
option for future releases, however this has meanwhile been dropped due to our 
lack of workforce available.

Instead, we're on the track of packaging the Ubuntu Studio configuration to 
port them to other derivatives, which means that you could still get your 
KDE/Plasma-Studio machine at some point.

For the current roadmap, you can check Erich's email from a couple of days ago. 
If you don't have it, send me a private message and I can forward it to you.

Any changes you'll read first about on this mailing list.


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[ubuntu-studio-devel] Error on the website

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi, I just noticed that the title for the 18.04 ISOs in the Download-section 
says "Bionic Beaver 18.10", that's a bit confusing.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Some thoughts, frustrations, and considerations.

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Antoine,

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:44 PM, ttoine  wrote:

>> After all, the point is to be able to install an optimised system without 
>> spending a lot of time searching for all the software, plugins and 
>> configurations
>
> You can do that with some metapackages, scripts, or even a tutorial. Does 
> that justify the work and energy to maintain a distribution?

I suppose that's exactly the question that just came up and I'm personally 
unsure if you could or not. If you can, then that might possibly even be a 
better option (from my point of view at least) for the previosly mentioned 
reasons by myself and Erich.

On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 2:44 PM, ttoine  wrote:

> Maybe this energy could be more useful to help AVLinux or KXStudio? Just 
> questions, please don't see any attack here.

Unfortunately, I can't really say anything all too useful about those 
distributions.

Back when I started using Ubuntu Studio 16 (or rather 15.10), there wasn't an 
AV Linux release and I believe I read that the project had halted, so I was 
actually suprised to read about it again so frequently on this mailing list 
recently. I suppose there's a new release out, but I haven't taken a look at 
it, yet.

I have briefly used KXStudio back then as well, but it just felt a bit bloated 
and cumbersome (or I guess they call that "feature-rich" these days) to me from 
what I remember and I found the default setup tools to be a little confusing 
compared to Ubuntu Studio, although I guess they do have some more GUI options. 
I haven't used it since then, but the latest ISO currently is also 14.04, which 
is close to EOL or probably already EOL, if it's based on Kubuntu. I don't know 
what Falk's plans are right now, but it doesn't look all that active, either.

To join forces may also be a good idea, but how that could work out, I don't 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Some thoughts, frustrations, and considerations.

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Alexandru,

 Original Message 
On 26 Sep 2018, 09:48, Alexandru Băluț wrote:
> People from Jack, PulseAudio, GStreamer, GNOME, KDE
> will meet at the end of October for a hackfest about
> improving the Linux audio situation. If successful,
> it seems this will make distributions focused on audio less relevant.

That sounds great and PipeWire seems like a good project to bring audio/video 
production on Linux forward, but I don't completely agree with the conclusion.

Besides of the project aims being relatively vague at this point and them 
basically creating a roadmap in October, which is far from being woking and 
stable, just having good audio support in a system isn't everything.

Ubuntu Studio for example also comes with a lot of pre-installed software that 
is not only used just for configuration, e.g. samplers, instruments, effect 
plugins and MIDI stuff. Other than that, it also installs some useful GIMP 
plugins and many additional fonts (although a bit messy at this point) for 
graphics work.

After all, the point is to be able to install an optimised system without 
spending a lot of time searching for all the software, plugins and 
configurations if you're doing this type of work with it. So I don't think 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Some thoughts, frustrations, and considerations.

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Erich and everyone else reading,

-‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Friday, September 21, 2018 5:55 PM, Erich Eickmeyer wrote:
> My proposal is to keep Ubuntu Studio's ISO as Xfce, but to develop
> metapackages that bolt Ubuntu Studio on to an existing install of
> another flavor.

I'm going to get right to the point - without probably fully understanding all 
the implications of such a decision, I think this is a great idea and have 
thought so since it first came up in one of the meetings.

Besides of what Erich already mentioned, I mainly see the advantage of offering 
users a simple way to turn their running installation into a media-creation 
system without having to go through the hassle of completely wiping and 
reinstalling a different derivative.

As far as I understand, it could even allow for using an Ubuntu Vanilla 
installation, turning it into a pseudo Ubuntu Studio system and getting up to 
five years of security patches, which might be useful for largely 
unadministered set-and-forget systems in institutions and such.

From a user-experience perspective, I suppose it's a lucrative selling point to 
offer those features without forcing a specific DE. That way, every user could 
choose one that fits their needs best. I know that Len had some specific 
criteria for why he chose Plasma as the alternative DE, but I had the "joy" of 
being forced to work with the new Kubuntu for a couple of weeks on the side and 
it's just not my personal favourite, but that of course doesn't mean that it's 
not perfectly suited for some other peoples' workflows.

After our last meeting, I had a very brief talk with Eylul and would be willing 
to take over at least her PR-related duties, since I've done this before and 
would consider myself competent enough, if it helps keeping everyones' backs 
free on that part. Unfortunately though, also working two jobs at the moment, I 
don't feel comfortable making any promises of taking on the more technical 
tasks that are so essential to the project right now, probably only hurting 
progress by doing so.

Maybe taking one step back and rethinking the direction of the project is a 
good idea. There's no point in chasing something that can't be reached at the 
moment when that time and energy can be spent making something else reachable. 
Anyway, I'll be here for any considerations.


Best regards,
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] the poll and Ubuntux doodles

[Thomas Pfundt]

 Original Message 
On 16 Sep 2018, 15:11, Peter Reppert wrote:
> Attached are some concept doodles of Tux.
> If there is any use for something like this,
> I could work one or two of them up as
> vector graphics.

Wow, those look really fine, well done. I like the drawing style, it looks 
simple, cute and not too artsy.

For anything Ubuntu Studio related, the top two would make the most sense, of 
course, but the last one is cool too in general.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Ubuntu Studio - hangs on shutdown/restart

[Thomas Pfundt]

On September 3, 2018 9:42 AM, bart deruyter  wrote:

> As soon as I logged in the entire system froze. Turned it was the driver for 
> my graphics card.

If that's the case, a simple test would be to disable the dedicated video card 
in the BIOS, I don't know how exactly you get there on the HP Pavillion laptop, 
in the manual it says to press Escape after powering on and then to hit F10. 
The option to use the Intel IGP *should* be in there somewhere.

If it shuts down normally without the Nvidia GPU, then that's definitely the 
cause.

I don't recognise anything particular in that log file. What I usually do 
anyway is to display the kernel messages at boot/shut down. You just have to:
- Open a Terminal (Press Ctrl + T)
- Enter: sudo nano /etc/default/grub
- Find the line "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=" and remove "quiet splash", 
leaving just the quotation marks
- Press Ctrl + O, then Enter to save and Ctrl + X to leave the editor
- Enter: sudo update-grub

Then, you should theoretically be able to see what's happening at shutdown in 
real-time and possibly identify the problem. You can revert the change later by 
adding the "quiet splash" back into the file, but I usually leave it that way.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Wallpaper

[Thomas Pfundt]

I think it's really pretty. I just set it up on my last 18.04 installation from 
the beta-tests and it does fit well in my opinion.

[screenshot_2018-04-12_001.jpg]

I actually planned to work on a second one myself as well, but haven't had the 
time yet to really commit to it or any good idea, either.

I'd give this a go, maybe just that the logo is not completely centred and I'm 
not entirely sure, but I think the tone of blue in the background is a little 
different from the system palette. I just quickly checked it back with the 
US-logo and the hue of the logo (#009BF9) seems to be going around -8 to -10 
more towards teal, rather than deep blue. I think it could look even better, if 
it's uniform with the rest of the system, but that's criticism on a very high 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 18.04 & Beta

[Thomas Pfundt]

On April 4, 2018 8:10 PM, Ross Gammon  wrote: 
> The release date is still tomorrow (Thurs 5th April) however. So 
> everyone get testing! 
 
I downloaded the 64-bit ISO yesterday and gave it a spin. So far, I've had no 
major issues, but I noticed that the application-selection screen was missing 
from the installer. 
 
Is this some kind of bug or was it removed on purpose? I suppose it's not a 
devastating issue, but I used to deselect some programs that I definitely 
didn't use and missed that. 
 
I don't find anything on launchpad, should I report this as a bug? If yes, is 
it related to Ubuntu Studio or Ubiquity? 
 
I'll do some more testing on my installation later on. 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Saturday Meetings (Was: Sunday Meetings)

[Thomas Pfundt]

On April 4, 2018 6:14 PM, jaquilina  wrote: 
> What is this meegint in relation to and when exactly sorry im missing 
> parts of this thread. :( 
 
Apparently, the Ubuntu Studio development has locked up a bit lately and we're 
trying to bring it back on track, so the idea was that all interested people 
have a concrete time to meet up and discuss news and ideas, ask questions and 
just hang out. 
 
So far, the most promising time for this is every Saturday at 19:00 UTC on the 
official IRC (freenode / #ubuntustudio-devel). If noone is completely 
unavailable on Saturdays at that time, we'll schedule the first meet-up this 
Saturday, the 7th.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Sunday Meetings (was: US still alive !)

[Thomas Pfundt]

On April 3, 2018 8:34 PM, Erich Eickmeyer  wrote: 
> Unfortunately. 10:00 (PDT) is a horrible time for me. I work for a church 
> (specifically, audio & video production) and am eyeballs deep in services 
> at that time. If there is another day at the same time, I’m pretty open for 
> that. 
 
On April 3, 2018 9:23 PM, Len Ovens  wrote: 
> I am in a similar position, I need to be out the door 15-20 mins before 
> that time and won't be back till 3 hours later at the earliest, 6 if my 
> wife is working and needs to be picked up. 
 
Well, okay. That's not going to work out. How does Saturday sound, then? Same 
time? 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] US still alive !

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi everyone, 
 
regarding the get-together: I've had great experiences in past projects with 
regular, weekly meetings to discuss progress, issues, ask questions or even 
just talk a little off-topic, if IRC allows for this. 
 
I'll just suggest now that we schedule a meeting every Sunday at 19:00 UTC. 
(21:00 CEST in Stockholm, Berlin, Paris, Madrid; 20:00 BST in London; 13:00 EDT 
in New York, Toronto; 10:00 PDT in Los Angeles, Vancouver.) 
 
Is there someone here for whom this wouldn't work under any circumstances 
because of work, family business or for any other reason? Of course, there will 
be occasions on which each of us won't be able to attend at all or join in via 
mobile, but would this be feasible, in general? Or does someone have a better 
suggestion? 
 
If everyone's fine with this, I'd like to meet up starting this sunday (8th 
April). I'll try to compose a list of topics and keep track of what's going on 
to get the ball rolling. 
 
 
On April 3, 2018 6:32 AM, Ralf Mardorf  wrote: 
> Ubuntu Mate is pretty good these days. [...] However, there is 
> one good reason to stay with Xfce4, as long as it shouldn't become 
> buggy, bloated or should suffer seriously from anything else. 
>  
> [...] Users who decided to install Ubuntu Studio are used to Xfce4, 
> migrating to another desktop environment does break their workflow 
> and it would be tricky to run do-release-upgrade. 
 
I've used Unity, KDE, Xfce, LXDE and the "new" GNOME in their respective Ubuntu 
environments in the past and while I got to know Ubuntu Studio with Xfce and I 
personally enjoy it the most, aesthetically, I have to say that it does suffer 
from certain issues. 
 
More than once have people opened threads on the mailing lists asking for help, 
because their whisker-menu categories and entries disappeared (happened to me 
multiple times as well) and Thunar is also not entirely stable when 
renaming/moving files. 
 
Then, there's the issue of screen tearing by default. Of course, this can be 
easily fixed by installing a compositor with Vsync, but for someone new, that 
can be quite a stretch, especially if they aren't even able to identify the 
cause of the problem. 
 
I've never used MATE or GNOME 2, but I've just had a look at the Ubuntu MATE 
desktop and it seems quite customisable and relatively similar to Xfce in many 
ways, so if that would solve some issues, maybe it's worth a thought. To 
circumvent a couple of problems, I've installed Nautilus/dconf-tools, the Gnome 
Terminal, gedit and Compiz anyway at this point, so I kind of run a bastardised 
stock Xfce/Gnome environment as is, but that doesn't have to work out for 
everyone, of course. 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] US still alive !

[Thomas Pfundt]

On April 2, 2018 1:15 PM, Set Hallstrom  wrote: 
> if you feel you want to set-up a meeting you should feel 
> free to go ahead and do so by inviting everyone to attend on a given 
> date in a given chat room. :) 
 
I have no problem with setting up a meeting, but I don't really feel qualified 
enough to curate it. I suppose it would be beneficial to have someone with a 
clear vision on where to pick things up, in a sense. 
 
Thanks for the heads-up regarding the IRC channel. I'll see to be active there 
from now on as well. I'm missing the Libreboot IRC, anyway. 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Candace

[Thomas Pfundt]

On April 2, 2018 4:33 PM, Erich Eickmeyer  wrote: 
> FalkTX has just released Cadence v0.9.0, having finished porting it to Qt5. 
> This would definitely be another reason we should consider moving from 
> QJackCtl to Cadence, along with the extra tools Cadence includes. 
 
Without using as much of a harsh tone as Ralf, I'd also not really be in favour 
of that, personally. I've used Cadence as well for its one-click-connection 
functionaliy when I first started using Ubuntu Studio, but have retired it 
shortly after, because I felt that the configuration and setup options wouldn't 
allow me to adjust it the way I needed to. This may have changed now, I haven't 
used it in quite a long time. 
 
However, I don't really see that there's any particular advantage in basic 
functionality over QJackCtl. You can basically just pactl load-module 
module-jack-source / module-jack-sink for Pulseaudio connections and add any 
other external audio devices with alsa_in / alsa_out -d hw:X, as needed. I'd 
even say that the QJackCtl Patchbay thingy to connect everything is extremely 
persistent and just runs automatically once a specific setup is saved and and 
activated. No need for tons of programs for a basic setup, maybe there's just a 
lack of guidance in documentation regarding different setups? But Cadence may 
do that as well now and I just haven't seen it, yet. 
 
After all, can't hurt to offer it as well for those that would like to use it. 
I guess I'd even take another look at it, if I would't have to add the full 
Kxstudio repositories, first. But then again, there's the issue of getting it 
into the official repository to begin with.

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] US still alive !

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Set and all others, 
 
on the general topic: Back in February when Ross Gammon asked for help with the 
16.04.4 ISO-testing, he also mentioned the possible formation of a new project 
council. Two other members of the mailing list and I have already offered our 
assistance in our own respective areas of proficiency. (I don't know if I 
should tentatively mention their contacts, but they're probably reading reading 
this list and can join in at their own sentiment.) 
 
I've basically been waiting for a word on some kind of get-together to discuss 
roles or division for what's on the road map, but I might have misunderstood 
something. 
 
I'll look into signing the code of conduct myself right now and try to get a 
better overview of the current state of everything. 
 
Anyway, I'll be available throughout this year and help with what I can, so 
"count me in". 
 
 
Kind regards, 
Thomas

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] wineasio interesting app

[Thomas Pfundt]

On March 31, 2018 3:07 PM, Ralf Mardorf  wrote: 
> Hi
>
> it's probably missing for hysterical raisins. [...] 
> I would recommend to test it and to do research how much wanted it 
> is by Linux, especially Ubuntu users first. 
> 
> The more packages you add, the harder it becomes to maintain/test all 
> packages. Since Ubuntu Studio suffers from missing manpower [1], 
> consider, if making Ubuntu Studio more bloated is a step into the right 
> direction. 
 
Hi all, 
 
I would suggest that WineASIO is a great way for a lot of people using 
Wine-compatible Windows DAWs and standalone VSTis to make them run on their 
Linux installation without much hassle in a semi-professional environment. I've 
used it myself for a long time after I switched, but from my understanding, 
there are only two ways to get a working WineASIO configuration on Ubuntu 
Studio: 
 
1.) Add the Kxstudio repositories and install their "wine-rt" and "wineasio" 
builds. (I believe that those only work in conjunction.) Problem: The Kxstudio 
wine-rt build is completely outdated at this point (it was on version 1.9.x the 
last time I installed it, the official release is at 3.x now) and FalkXT, the 
maintainer of Kxstudio mentioned in some forum post that the real-time patch 
became obsolete anyway with the Wine staging branch at some point. 
 
2.) Install wine from the official packages and build WineASIO from the 
official Sourceforge. I've never tried this myself, but I've read that there 
can be some issues involved with Ubuntu. I haven't bothered to find out what's 
the catch, since I switched to Reaper for Linux for my DAW, which is 
JACK-compatible and I can work with LinVst to run most of my plugins, but for 
someone who is dependent on a certain VST, this could be a problem, if they are 
unable to get WineASIO working or just switched and have no idea how to do so 
at all. 
 
IMHO, a way 3 would be desirable: To install a recent version of the regular 
Wine build either from the distro's repository or the official packages and 
separately "sudo apt install wineasio" and register it to that Wine 
installation. I think that's something that most newcomers would be comfortable 
doing and the best solution to stay updated. 
 
If I understand it correctly, Ubuntu Studio is completely dependent on the 
regular Xubuntu repository at this point? So, WineASIO would have to be added 
as a package to Xubuntu to be available to Ubuntu Studio users for 
installation? 
 
I would be willing to figure out what problems there are in building and 
installing WineASIO from the official source and how to use it with the most 
recent stable Wine version, however I'm not sure what else is involed in adding 
it to the repository (or at least offer some kind of PPA) and could use some 
guidance to make the right steps. 
 
 
Kind regards, 
Thomas

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Introducing the potential new Ubuntu Studio Council

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Ross and Jonathan, hi all others, 
 
I've also decided to join the Council and help where I can. By the looks of it, 
that would be more on the Documentation/(Testing)/Artwork/PR/Support/Website 
side of things, though it seems to me that there is some demand in these 
departments as well, looking at the current team structure. 
 
On February 24, 2018 4:55 PM, Ross Gammon  wrote: 
> Can you let us know your launchpad ID? 
 
My Launchpad-ID is "captain-tux", though I still have to update that account in 
the near future, probably. 
 
Ross Gammon wrote: 
> Can you let us know a little but about yourself (skills, what you have 
> done with Ubuntu Studio in the past, and what you might enjoy working on)? 
 
In a nutshell, I am a freelance designer from Germany, graduated a media 
production course in the Netherlands, got interested in Linux/Ubuntu for 
security and privacy reasons a few years ago and decided to completely switch 
from a dual-boot system of Windows for work and vanilla Ubuntu for 
data-sensitive tasks to Ubuntu Studio around the release of 16.04 and make it 
work somehow. 
 
I currently do a lot of freelance work in the sense of flyers and magazines, 
advertisements, self-managed website setups with CMSs and an image film once in 
a while. Other than that, I've worked on 2D-animations and UIs for games and 
have a website project with a couple of friends and colleagues for which I do 
all the graphics, CSS and occasional JS. 
 
I mostly use Inkscape, Photoshop and InDesign in Wine/CrossOver, Sublime Text, 
Kdenlive and Spriter for video editing and/or small animations, which has 
worked out very well so far. In my private life, I also play guitar, bass and a 
little piano (figuratively and literally, in the sense of a small 
midi-keyboard) and dabble in mixing/production with Jack Winter's Reaper for 
Linux and osxmidi's LinVst bridge, which has worked great as well so far. 
 
Ross Gammon wrote:  
> Feel free to give the 16.04.4 Xenial "point release" a test if you have 
> time (see other post). 
 
I will be testing the images on two machines now and document my results while 
using the system in the next couple of days. 
 
 
Kind regards, 
Thomas 

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

[Thomas Pfundt]

On the 23.09.2016 at 08:49 One Chamois wrote:

> Are the texts slow enough now?

Yes, this is perfect to me. Not too slow and everything is readable
moderately. Backgrounds are also a bit more dynamic like that, but
that's up to your choice if you wanna keep it or not. Anyway, good job!

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi!

Am 18.09.2016 um 13:24 schrieb One Chamois:
> Hey Thomas,
>
>
> Is it legal to mention Adobe softwares?

Sorry, maybe I have written a bit unclear. As you already wrote, I was
reffering to common substitutes, not the Adobe software itself.

Again, just some suggestions. I don't know how feasible this is or not,
since it's not possible to include "everyone's favourite program" in the
list. I just thought, maybe to go with common recommendations for people
transitioning from Adobe software to see that they're supported and
included.

Krita is another example of a really popular program, especially lately.
I did not think of it though, as I haven't used it very much, yet. Also
not sure what people generally use it for, I think I've seen it being
mentioned as a substitute for Photoshop painting / Corel Painter, as far
as I'm aware.


Kind regards,
Thomas


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Video

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hey guys,

I just saw the second video and I really like it visually! Love the
construction of the logo at the end.

I just have two general suggestions:

First, did you try adding slight transition effects to the
text/backgrounds? Sometimes only animating the text to scale down by 5%
from fading in to fading out makes it look less static, or making the
images in the background move in any direction by a few pixels. But
those are also style choices, of course, so I don't know if you
deliberately chose not to.

Secondly, regarding the content, wouldn't it be logical to at least name
the common substitutes for the industry standard Adobe software that
people might have encountered when researching GNU/Linux native
software? I'm personally missing Inkscape and Scribus, which people
would likely use as substitutes for Illustrator and InDesign
respectively and Blender or Kdenlive could also open a 3D/compositing
category. Just one thought and the way I understand it, you got the text
from the official website anyway.

Also, the text in the beginning disappears just a little tad too fast
for my taste and I'm not a very slow reader, but could be fine.

Other than that, great work! :)


Kind regards,
Thomas


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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

[Thomas Pfundt]

On 11.08.2016 15:42, ttoine wrote:

> @thomas: hellotux is not printing. This is embroidery and that's why
> it can not be detailed. The picture on the webshop are made with
> Photoshop from a first embroidery done on plain fabric, not on actual
> polo/shirt. I will share a picture of the one I get, asap.

To make my point clear, I was actually not criticising the quality or
level of detail of the embroidery, but obvious mistakes. The embroidery
seems very detailed already and (although I am no expert in clothing)
the missing blue sphere in the middle seems more like a graphic
reproduction mistake rather that something they are not able to do.
Maybe it's even correct in the finished product, then just the images on
the site would have to be corrected, this does not change the
inconsistency with the white background on the black clothing, however.

It would alternatively also be possible to change the white spots to
black for the logo on the black shirt (the wording is in black on the
white shirts, so I assume black embroidery is generally possible), then
the logo would be visually correct.

>From a quality standpoint, I think it's the better choice to not offer
shirts with incorrect logos at all. It will rather harm than benefit the
impact of the brand (I don't like to use this word, but it's really what
it is), especially in a professional environment.


On 11.08.2016 15:42, ttoine wrote:
> @ralf: Your point of view is extreme. This is not the point of view we
> should expect from an Ubuntu Studio enthusiast, and from an open
> source enthusiast in general (and trust me, I know what I am telling
> here). Question: would you wear some Ubuntu Studio swag at an open
> source conference???

Actually, I did not think of his points initially and I must say that I
find them very important. The only restraint I have is that it seems
hard to act upon these values unless the person claiming this is already
solely using only labour law respecting, ecologically friendly clothing,
Fairphones and computers made out of scrap metal from the nearest
junkyard, exclusively. In a way, most of us in this channel are probably
currently guilty of taking advantage of the global market and production
system to a certain extent.

It's maybe interesting to find out where their base clothing comes from.
If they were able to offer fair trade / green clothing (or maybe already
do without disclosing it), that could even be an advantage.

As far as where their funds go, there probably won't be any more
transparency as with any other random print shop / online store, it's a
business after all. There are general food chains in some countries
supporting military industrial research. I guess not everybody likes to
endorse warfare while enjoying a premade pizza in the evening, but
that's just the reality. If there is no evidence of the promotion of
discrimination or crimes, it's impractical to suspect even the smallest
family business to be involved in such behaviour. For all I know, you
Ralf, could be an internal developer for "WhiteOS", the KKK exclusive
operating system. I have no evidence in favour or against this at hand,
whatsoever. ;)


Best regards,
Thomas

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Hellotux shop

[Thomas Pfundt]

On 11.08.2016 11:30, ttoine wrote:

> FYI, the swag is available: https://www.hellotux.com/ubuntu_studio
>
> It's up to you guys to speak about it or not, or to add that to our
> websites. They told me they will send me a polo, so I should be able
> to share a picture of a real product soon.
>

Hi Antoine,

first of all, I like the idea of offering apparel and merchandise. Some
people feel that wearing and representing a brand like this is too
_loud_, but if it makes one person curious and he or she looks it up and
gets interested in the system, that's a success in my opinion, so more
power to that.

However, judging by the pictures, the print seems poorly executed,
unfortunately. I don't know if the editor just missed copying one
element for the display photo or something went wrong, but the middle
sphere is missing in the logo on the shirt, I'm probably not the only
one to notice this. Also, as far as I'm aware, the original glyph
consists of a blue surface with transparent circles/cutouts, so the
areas in between should actually be black and not white on the black
shirts. This makes it look a bit random and inconsistent and if I've
learned anything in my corporate design courses, then it is that such
representative means of display have to be really accurate and
recognisable. In that sense, I would actually rather not have them offer
black shirts at all if they're not able to reproduce the logo 100%
correctly (counting for all channels of distribution). But maybe the
logo is created on a free license any way and I'm a bit too "anal" about
this matter right now... ;)

On 11.08.2016 11:30, ttoine wrote:
> Next step, I would like to create a Ubuntu Studio sticker on
> Stickermule.com. I already ordered stickers from their shop in the
> past for my job, this is true high quality stuff. What do you think?
> it could be very good to have sticker like that on our laptops, isn't it?

For me personally, the same points as above apply here. If done
accurately, it's a great cause in my opinion. I must say that I'm
generally not the biggest fan of the fat, square, glossy stickers that
RMS has on his laptop and that come with the Minifree machines. Nearly
all of the girls from marketing in my study also used to have those on
their macbooks and I just think it looks really childish and
unprofessional. Sorry for sounding judgemental here, but that's just how
I feel about it. You can stick everything you want on your personal
laptop, but I don't think those are suitable for professional
representation.

Although, I also have to admit that I once had an Ubuntu sticker on one
of my own laptops a while ago, which was this exact one:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/ubuntu-Metal-Sticker-11-x-61mm-714-/361680005108?hash=item5435cee7f4:g:vGYAAOSwgQ9VulFq

The laptop had a chrome Asus logo on the lid and I put it right behind
that, so it blended in really well and looked pretty much legit to the
naked eye. However, that's not something to cover the brand, of course,
but maybe one of those "transfer stickers" would also be a good option
for the Ubuntu Studio logo (again, because of peculiarities with the
glyph/wording).

Just my two cents on this whole topic. TL;DR: If you do it, make sure
it's done right. :)


Kind regards,
Thomas

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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon, closing

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hello Washington,

thank you very much for your hint. I had another look at this and it
finally worked for me. I tried setting the parameter in the dconf editor
before, but apparently I wrote "list-view" with a dash instead of an
underscore, so I assumed it does not work. Always a good idea to
double-check, so thanks again!

@ Len: Just a quick remark on the "gear wheel" that you suggested using:
I do not see a "gear wheel" anywhere when I install Nautilus on Ubuntu
Studio 15.10 or 16.04. There is a menu toggle button, but it only gives
options related to the currently viewed folder. Normally there should be
a way of entering the preferences from the file manager's interface, but
I see no possibility to access it, because the button layout is
different from Unity and the Xfce window decorator prevents targeting
the menu bar, I believe. I haven't tested the other mentioned file
managers, yet.

With the possibility of changing the settings with the dconf-editor
however, this is absolutely usable for me. I hope this did not turn into
a technical support issue too much.


Kind regards,
Thomas


On 21.04.2016 17:00, Wachín wrote:
> to work with list- or detail-view in nautilus so you need to install:
> 
> sudo apt-get install dconf-editor
> 
> launch it from terminal, or with the launcher Alt+F2, with:
> 
> dconf-editor
> 
> Go to:
> 
> org/gnome/nautilus/preferences/default-folder-viewer
> 
> see:
> 
> http://storage7.static.itmages.com/i/16/0421/h_1461249276_7582161_e59392d954.png
> 
> double clic in "default-folder-viewer" and chose that you want, example
> list_view:
> 
> http://storage8.static.itmages.com/i/16/0421/h_1461249538_8654939_4b9c8192b5.png
> 
> it is important that you recorded in your memory the name of that
> package "dconf-editor" for you easy use in next times
> 
> Oh, I said you a new. In the repositories of 15.10 there is a package
> called dolphin4, this software I use to my main file manager, this is
> the same that dolphin but working the search option. I know is necessary
> to install dome services, but is very fantanstic. If you try to use it,
> I made some tutorials for the most necessary config:
> 
> Extraer aquí - Comprimir (File-Roller) para dolphin
> http://facilitarelsoftwarelibre.blogspot.com/2014/11/extraer-aqui-comprimir-file-roller-para.html
> 
> Añadir enqueue (a la cola de reproducción) al menu contextual del
> administrador de archivos dolphin
> http://facilitarelsoftwarelibre.blogspot.com/2016/02/anadir-enqueue-al-menu-contextual-del.html
> 
> other importantly:
> 
> kubuntu - Enabling PDF preview in Dolphin - Ask Ubuntu
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/86338/enabling-pdf-preview-in-dolphin
> from this I install:  kdegraphics-thumbnailers
> 
> 
> See also:
> Preview video files with Dolphin file manager
> inside the:
> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Kubuntu_Saucy_File_Managers
> from this I install:   mplayerthumbs
> 
> Sorry my english I am spanish parlant
> 
> God Bless,
> Washington Indacochea Delgado
> 
> El 21/04/16 a las 07:30, Thomas Pfundt escribió:
>> work for setting the default file manager, that is a bug for sure.
>>
>> Oh no, maybe I've not clearly described the issue with this. I am able
>> to install Nautilus and set it as the default file manager. The problem
>> is that I have not been able to access its preferences, because the
>> Xfce-menu links still open the Thunar settings and I have not been able
>> to access the Nautilus menu bar with Alt+F10 or by any other means.
>>
>> Because of this, Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon
>> closing, which is a bit unfortunate, because I tend to work with list-
>> or detail-views in the folders mostly and I basically have to set this
>> every time when launching the file manager. Accessing any other settings
>> is not possible either at this point. It's really a matter of
>> convenience for me, but not being able to access an alternative file
>> manager's preferences might be an issue. Like I mentioned, I also can't
>> find a terminal command for it, such as "nautilus-preferences/-settings"
>> or anything similar.
>>
>> I also just realised that Nautilus is not really popular among the
>> community apparently, I just haven't used any other file manager in the
>> past and I've never experienced any particular problems with it
>> personally, so this was my first choice after Thunar became too
>> impractical to use for me. If there is another favourite file manager
>> for someone here, maybe I could try that one instead and see if it works
>> better in terms of integration and stability.
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Thomas
> 
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.04 Release Candidate Testing - for release Thursday 21st

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi Len,

thanks for your reply.

> Thankyou for testing in other languages. I have not noticed this on my 
> system, but that is because I can only read english.

Well, as far as languages go, I could only test Italian and maybe French
in terms of spelling, but I guess it would just generally be safe to
make sure that the texts fit the content boxes even if they become a
little longer than the English version. It's a bit unfortunate that you
have to fully start an installation in order to check this, but I also
haven't used a virtual machine for this yet, maybe that would be more
practical.

> That sounds like a bug in update-manager.

This is indeed not a localisation issue, it also happened to me with the
English system language when installing programs through Gnome Software.
There's always the left button label missing for me, though the
functionality seems to work. Might be related to the Xfce notifications,
I'll see if I can find out more about it and I'll have a look on Launchpad.

> I have never had that happen. I do rename files, but from your comments 
> further down not as much as you do.

Were you able to reproduce this though? It can be done in a matter of
seconds, in fact, probably even faster than me typing this. I'm really
curious if this is just a problem for me and a few others or if it
affects basically all users, because I can't see it being related to
hardware or custom system specifications. Like you said, there is no
point in changing anything for reasons of preference, because you can
not make everyone happy, but if this is a potential issue, especially
for newcomers, maybe it's worth a thought.

I used to work in a civic community centre where local news reports and
interviews are filmed on a daily basis and if you have hundreds of
random video and audio files on your drive, first of all renaming them
properly is really the best practice. That's just kind of a habit I took
away from it, hence I probably noticed this issue more regularly. ;)

> Have you tried Settings->Preferred Applications->Utilities(tab)? When I set 
> Nautilus there it seems to just show up everywhere. If this does not
work for setting the default file manager, that is a bug for sure.

Oh no, maybe I've not clearly described the issue with this. I am able
to install Nautilus and set it as the default file manager. The problem
is that I have not been able to access its preferences, because the
Xfce-menu links still open the Thunar settings and I have not been able
to access the Nautilus menu bar with Alt+F10 or by any other means.

Because of this, Nautilus always resets itself to icon-view upon
closing, which is a bit unfortunate, because I tend to work with list-
or detail-views in the folders mostly and I basically have to set this
every time when launching the file manager. Accessing any other settings
is not possible either at this point. It's really a matter of
convenience for me, but not being able to access an alternative file
manager's preferences might be an issue. Like I mentioned, I also can't
find a terminal command for it, such as "nautilus-preferences/-settings"
or anything similar.

I also just realised that Nautilus is not really popular among the
community apparently, I just haven't used any other file manager in the
past and I've never experienced any particular problems with it
personally, so this was my first choice after Thunar became too
impractical to use for me. If there is another favourite file manager
for someone here, maybe I could try that one instead and see if it works
better in terms of integration and stability.


Kind regards,
Thomas


On 20.04.2016 23:09, Len Ovens wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2016, Thomas Pfundt wrote:
> 
>> My installation was completed successfully for both UEFI and Legacy
>> boot, however I noticed that some of the titles in the slideshow that
>> are displayed while installing received line breaks, because apparently
>> the text is too long to be displayed in one line. The problem with this
>> is that the field in which these titles are placed is too small to
>> display two lines with appropriate spacing, so the lines are
>> overlapping, making the titles extremely awkward to read. I also have to
>> mention that this happened while installing in the German language,
>> which is my native language, but I could imagine this happening with
>> other languages as well, if words tend to be a little longer. When
>> installing in English, I did not not encounter anything like this.
> 
> Thankyou for testing in other languages. I have not noticed this on my
> system, but that is because I can only read english.
> 
>> I don't know if this is similar in nature, but when I received an update
>> notification in the upper right corner of the desktop after starting the
>> system for the first time and setting it up, one of the buttons (

Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] 16.04 Release Candidate Testing - for release Thursday 21st

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hi everyone,

sorry for my late reply, but I finally got around to testing the ISO
(amd64 only as of now).

I found a few apparent flaws along the way while installing and using
the system and I am not sure if they might be related to my hardware or
are indeed bugs, so I thought I'd share them and maybe someone could
confirm them or it could be helpful in another way, especially since I
am not very experienced with packages and bug reporting, yet.

My installation was completed successfully for both UEFI and Legacy
boot, however I noticed that some of the titles in the slideshow that
are displayed while installing received line breaks, because apparently
the text is too long to be displayed in one line. The problem with this
is that the field in which these titles are placed is too small to
display two lines with appropriate spacing, so the lines are
overlapping, making the titles extremely awkward to read. I also have to
mention that this happened while installing in the German language,
which is my native language, but I could imagine this happening with
other languages as well, if words tend to be a little longer. When
installing in English, I did not not encounter anything like this.

I don't know if this is similar in nature, but when I received an update
notification in the upper right corner of the desktop after starting the
system for the first time and setting it up, one of the buttons (I
assume it's supposed say "Install immediately" or something similar) had
the label missing, I believe this could be another example of
language-text changes where the text doesn't fit the box. I have not yet
seen this notification box in my English installation, so I can't
confirm this. I attached a screenshot of this in the mail.

Lastly, I haven't been able to test all of the applications thoroughly
yet, but I noticed that the default file manager, Thunar, still has file
renaming issues. When renaming files inside a folder, it sometimes
completely crashes, opening an Apport crash report window. The report
title reads as "thunar crashed with SIGSEGV in
thunar_file_compare_by_name()". To reproduce, just create a folder in
/homer/user/Documents and a file inside of it and rename it a couple of
times, making it crash should not take long. Oddly, this does not happen
absolutely everywhere, but I have also encountered this on external drives.

I remember having had this problem in previous versions already, I
always installed Nautilus out of habit and set it as the default file
manager to avoid it, however with Thunar being preinstalled, I have
never been able to get into the Nautilus preferences, as the menu
shortcuts only link to Thunar's display settings and the terminal only
gives options for "nautilus-autorun-software" and
"nautilus-connect-server". Thus, I wasn't able to permanently change the
view to something useful as detail or list view (it resets itself to
icon view upon closing).

Anyhow, I was wondering if this is not an issue that more people are
struggling with, as it has been confirmed on Launchpad. Or is there an
alternative that is usually chosen in this case? I tend to rename many
files a day and while the bulk rename tool ran flawlessly so far, Thunar
used to crash on me constantly.

I hope this information is in any way useful and if there's something I
should test or look into, please just tell me.

Apart from these issues, I haven't had a major problem while using the
system so far and I must say that this is a great step up from previous
releases in many aspects, also very happy to see the new version of
Kdenlive added.


Kind regards,
Thomas


On 17.04.2016 20:24, Ross Gammon wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> On Thursday, hopefully Ubuntu Studio 16.04 will be released. So, if
> anyone would like to give a hand in testing the ISO, that would be great.
> 
> The first Release Candidate (RC) has been uploaded to
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/359/builds (Xenial Final).
> To test, we boot the ISO, install it, and try a few applications to make
> sure everything is working. You may then mark the test a success at
> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com, or report any bugs.
> 
> Hopefully this Release Candidate is the one that is released, but there
> may be other release candidates if bugs are found. The best thing is to
> get a few tests done early in the week, and keep checking back to see if
> a new test is required (especially on Thursday).
> 
> More detailed information about how to test can be found here:
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/Testing/ISOTesting.
> 
> Happy Testing,
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Ross
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Re: [ubuntu-studio-devel] One week until xenial final relase, please help testing

[Thomas Pfundt]

Hello Kaj,

I just read your mail on the 16.04 release testing. I started fully
using Ubuntu Studio at the end of last year (been a vanilla Ubuntu user
next to Windows for around two years before).

First of all, I would like to personally thank you and the others for
your work on this great system. I'm so happy with how well it works,
audio performance is much better than with Windows and everything is so
configurable and responsive, it's really cool!

Anyway, I thought I'd join the development channel and see if I was able
to help out in some way, since 16.04 is kind of an important release for
me and I plan on using this system for a while now. Unfortunately, I've
been rather busy with the job and also at home lately, so I haven't had
very much time.

I want to download and test the new release right now, but I have got
two main questions about that:

Will it be fine to test the live system (or: fully installed on a USB
drive)? I'm asking because I can't reinstall my current system at the
moment and I don't have a spare hard drive at hand, or would that not be
sufficient for testing?

And: How do I report bugs, should I encounter any? Is it enough to
submit an automatic report as soon as an error window shows up or do I
have to manually file some kind of bug report (I have never done this
before).

I don't mean to interrupt you and if there is some kind of manual on
this for newcommers, please just send me a link. I could only test this
release on three devices right now and I don't know if I can be of much
help, but I would certainly like to contribute, if possible. :-)

Thanks again, know that your work is much appreciated and please let me
know if I can help with this somehow.


Best regards,
Thomas


On 13.04.2016 16:16, Kaj Ailomaa wrote:
> Just a reminder to everyone that we only have one week until release, so
> please help testing the ISO. As always - if you find bugs, please report
> them!
> 
> You can find the latest ISOs at
> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/dvd/current/
> 
> ubiquity (the installer) is still missing a few of our updates, but
> otherwise, not much will change before release.
> 
> There will probably be no specific release candidate until closer to
> release, so no need to use http//iso.qa.ubuntu.com to report test
> results, unless you really want to. We will however do our smoke testing
> and report results there during the one day or so before release.
> 
> This is just a short reminder, so no specific instructions here for
> those who are new. Let us know if you want to help, and we'll help you
> on your way.
> 
> /Kaj
> 

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