Re: [uknof] 9pm data dip

2020-05-22 Thread Tom Hill
On 12/05/2020 17:11, Greg Choules wrote: > However, allowing for the granularity of the various reporting > systems the dips do appear to be slipping later in the day, which > might fit with the sunset theory. Though given previous comments I'm > not completely convinced. Now, if you combine

[uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Paul Mansfield
Here's a thought. Industry leading bodies* should announce that from 2026 all internet connections sold in the UK will be IPv6 only, and thus all CPEs must support IPv6 on the WAN and the LAN side, with no IPv4 on either. ISPs can then offer a DNS64/NAT64 service for customers, particularly

[uknof] Docklands-Williams spectrum

2020-05-22 Thread Catalin Dominte
Hi everyone, I am looking for a someone who can offer optical spectrum from Docklands (any of the usual subjects) to Equinix Williams House in Manchester. My client wants to put a 50Ghz coherent device at either end, so the supplier would allocate a channel on their existing infrastructure.

[uknof] Cyber Security Expert

2020-05-22 Thread Paul Bone
Hi All, I have a customer who is concerned that his mobile devices have been compromised on his home WiFi but this is not an area I have much knowledge of. Are there any Mobile Device Cyber Security experts out there that could assist him with some investigations? Thanks -- Paul Bone Network

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
I can see the meme generator is going to be busy today! :D On 22/05/2020, 14:06, "uknof on behalf of Christian" wrote: Another question. If all Internet connections (capital "I" please note) have to have a public IP provided that is stable and are able to initiate and respond to

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
https://imgflip.com/i/42fn8j On 22/05/2020, 13:26, "uknof on behalf of Paul Mansfield" wrote: Here's a thought. Industry leading bodies* should announce that from 2026 all internet connections sold in the UK will be IPv6 only, and thus all CPEs must support IPv6 on the WAN

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Christian
something for the weekend :-) On 22/05/2020 14:16, Neil J. McRae wrote: I can see the meme generator is going to be busy today! :D On 22/05/2020, 14:06, "uknof on behalf of Christian" wrote: Another question. If all Internet connections (capital "I" please note) have to have a

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Paul Bone
>I am tempted to argue that anybody without a public IP is not actually >being given Internet access but mediated Internet "connection". > >So rather than deprecating IPv4 which I don't think is workable. Then >"Internet access" should be sold as a separate product offer to Internet

Re: [uknof] GEA Cablelink "external"

2020-05-22 Thread James Bensley
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 13:21, Aled Morris wrote: > > Hi BT GEA customers. > > Has anyone managed to order a GEA Cablelink with external presentation i.e. > not to an Access Locate rack inside the exchange but to a footway box outside? > > This is clearly shown as an option (top blue line) on the

Re: [uknof] GEA Cablelink "external"

2020-05-22 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Fri May 22, 2020 at 02:48:41pm +0100, James Bensley wrote: > Where are you ordering the external variant cable-link to/from? I > presume you're requesting that one end is a handover chamber outside, > where are you requesting the other end be? They are a mixture of an > internal variant 3 (from

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Tim Chown
> On 22 May 2020, at 15:49, Neil J. McRae wrote: > > As I'm not allowed to use any more Friday memes :D > > I'll just move all my IPv4s to be assets in a company in Luxembourg. Google reports a higher percentage of IPv6 accesses in Luxembourg (40%) than the UK (31%). Tim

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Pete Stevens
Why would that happen Pete? Nobody would even know that you had even done it. It wouldn't take a very bright tax inspector to notice that she's bought an internet service from ISP A which included an IPv4 address, and ISP A doesn't pay any IPv4 address tax because it claims it has no

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Denesh Bhabuta :: UKNOF
A notice to all… Play nicely folks.. this is UKNOF, not UKNOT.. just in case anyone had forgotten. ;-) Yes, you can disagree with someone’s viewpoint, but also remember that the whole point of UKNOF is to foster a learning and knowledge sharing environment… and the list is not only made up of

Re: [uknof] GEA Cablelink "external"

2020-05-22 Thread James Bensley
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 14:52, Simon Lockhart wrote: > > You're confusing "Cablelink" with "GEA Cablelink". They're two very different > things. Ah sorry yeah you're right, it's even in the subject line! I have no excuse. Cheers, James.

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
Is this really not UKNOT?! Why would that happen Pete? Nobody would even know that you had even done it. Regards, Neil. On 22/05/2020, 16:05, "Pete Stevens" wrote: On Fri, 22 May 2020, Neil J. McRae wrote: > As I'm not allowed to use any more Friday memes :D > > I'll just

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Christian
How long until Hard Brexit? On 22/05/2020 16:34, Neil J. McRae wrote: And this wouldn't change that, nor anything else. It would be a legal tax efficient way to avoid Pete's tax. Neil. On 22/05/2020, 16:30, "Tim Chown" wrote: > On 22 May 2020, at 15:49, Neil J. McRae wrote: >

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
And this wouldn't change that, nor anything else. It would be a legal tax efficient way to avoid Pete's tax. Neil. On 22/05/2020, 16:30, "Tim Chown" wrote: > On 22 May 2020, at 15:49, Neil J. McRae wrote: > > As I'm not allowed to use any more Friday memes :D > > I'll

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
Pete - I'm impressed with your perseverance on this idea even though it's got more flees than a Worf's pet targ. all the cable systems are registered in Bermuda, yet none of them go anywhere near the place On 22/05/2020, 16:39, "Pete Stevens" wrote: > Why would that happen Pete?

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
As I'm not allowed to use any more Friday memes :D I'll just move all my IPv4s to be assets in a company in Luxembourg. Neil. On 22/05/2020, 15:35, "uknof on behalf of Pete Stevens" wrote: > Here's a thought. Make IPv4 addresses taxable assets and have them declared on balance

Re: [uknof] Docklands-Williams spectrum

2020-05-22 Thread Simon Lockhart
On Mon May 18, 2020 at 12:48:32pm +, Catalin Dominte wrote: > I am looking for a someone who can offer optical spectrum from Docklands (any > of the usual subjects) to Equinix Williams House in Manchester. My client > wants to put a 50Ghz coherent device at either end, so the supplier would >

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Pete Stevens
Here's a thought. Make IPv4 addresses taxable assets and have them declared on balance sheets as part of equity. That way you've an incentive to stop using them and give them back even if you believe in EBITDA because it lowers your RoCE. It's not like HMRC isn't about to need a massive influx

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Clive D.W. Feather
Pete Stevens said: > Maybe it's impossible to legislate to make the tax not avoidable, but > tax avoidance isn't something I've experience with. Tax avoidance is legal. Tax evasion isn't. -- Clive D.W. Feather | If you lie to the compiler, Email: cl...@davros.org | it will get its

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Christian
Until EU says they can't be exported to a "third country" (like using  a .eu domain for instance) :-) On 22/05/2020 16:54, Neil J. McRae wrote: On the government list of Brexit issues: 1: Be able to import food 2: Be able to import Medicine 3: Be able to import Beer/wine 4: Be able to land

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
Your welcome Will; I'm glad my forthright comment saved you having to learn to play the guitarrón and join a different Mariachi band. But on your question - God no. I would have been a consultant to the clowns^w civil servants who would have ended up running it and charged the taxpayer an

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Christian
On 22/05/2020 14:23, Paul Bone wrote: >I am tempted to argue that  anybody without a public IP is not actually >being given Internet access but mediated Internet "connection". > >So rather than deprecating IPv4 which I don't think is workable. Then >"Internet access" should be sold as a

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Fearghas Mckay
> On 22 May 2020, at 12:00, Christian wrote: > >> >> I am currently building a new network for a small ISP and we are going to be >> running IPv6 only services with DNS64/NAT64 as much as possible, but at this >> stage we still do require some public IPv4 for business with on-prem >>

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Neil J. McRae
You mean like this Will? https://www.ofcom.org.uk/about-ofcom/latest/media/media-releases/2019/fairer-prices-for-broadband-customers and nobody with half a brain thought Corbyn's idea (and not just this one but all of them) would make any service issues, or anything else better. Neil. On

Re: [uknof] Thought for the day: announce the end of IPv4 internet connections by 2026

2020-05-22 Thread Will Hargrave
Imagine having business practices deemed so unfair that even a Tory government’s regulator saw fit to step on them! Not a great look! Did you not fancy the job of running the nationalised British National Broadband PTT or Post Office Internet or whatever it was going to be called? I thought