Re: Should I propose KARA?

2002-02-04 Thread Rick McGowan
Should I propose it? No. It's already encoded. Everything in the older JIS sets is already encoded. If it's not U+301C then it's U+FF5E. Rick

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread John Cowan
Gaspar Sinai scripsit: So common language is screenshots... Ok. I updated the page. Thank you. Now the exact same file is viewed with two different viewers at the bottom of this page: http://www.yudit.org/security/ Outlook Express, at least the version you are using, has a bug; it is

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Bob_Hallissy
On 04-02-2002 11:15:25 John Cowan wrote: Outlook Express, at least the version you are using, has a bug; it is failing to set the overall directionality to RTL even though the first character is strongly RTL. The fact that some implementations are buggy is hardly an argument against either the

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Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Gaspar Sinai
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, John Cowan wrote: Gaspar Sinai scripsit: Now the exact same file is viewed with two different viewers at the bottom of this page: http://www.yudit.org/security/ Outlook Express, at least the version you are using, has a bug; it is failing to set the overall

Re: names of the control characters

2002-02-04 Thread James E. Agenbroad
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Michael Everson wrote: At 12:33 -0800 2002-02-03, Mark Davis wrote: This has bitten more than a few people. For political reasons, having to do with the synchronization of names to ISO 10646, the name fields are empty for the control characters. That is because (at least

Phonetic grouping in UniHan

2002-02-04 Thread Marco Cimarosti
In the on-line UniHan database (http://www.unicode.org/charts/unihan.html) I see a field that I have never seen before: - Other useful dictionary-like data - [...] - A phonetic grouping for the character The phonetic grouping seems to be

Re: Phonetic grouping in UniHan

2002-02-04 Thread John H. Jenkins
On Monday, February 4, 2002, at 07:21 AM, Marco Cimarosti wrote: In the on-line UniHan database (http://www.unicode.org/charts/unihan.html) I see a field that I have never seen before: - Other useful dictionary-like data - [...] - A

plain text and plane 14 lang tags (was RE: Introducing the idea of a ROMANVARIANT SELECTOR)

2002-02-04 Thread Peter_Constable
On 01/30/2002 05:09:13 AM Marco Cimarosti wrote: In plain text, I think that plane 14 language tags could be used It seems to me that such usage confuses the meaning of plain text. Use of the plane 14 tagging characters to indicuate language would be markup -- metadata that is separate from

Re: Phonetic grouping in UniHan

2002-02-04 Thread Thomas Chan
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Marco Cimarosti wrote: I also take the occasion to suggest a new field that could be very useful: the frequency of usage of each character. This information may be derived from good on-line sources. E.g., for Chinese, from Chi-Ho Tsai's research

Re: Keyboard mapping on Windows XP?

2002-02-04 Thread Peter_Constable
On 01/31/2002 11:31:53 AM Rick McGowan wrote: Does anyone out there have a keyboard re-mapping utility -- free or cheap or even expensive! -- that works for Windows XP. Rick, The most flexible utility in the keyboard remapper category bar none is Tavultesoft Keyman. The current version will

Re: TC/SC mapping

2002-02-04 Thread Thomas Chan
On Wed, 23 Jan 2002, John H. Jenkins wrote: Thomas, do you have a reference for U+9EBC (麼) and U+9EBD (麽) being different? The only dictionary I have which contains both is the (traditional) CiHai, it and it claims they're variants of each other. Belated, but a little more on these two.

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Rick McGowan
Gaspar Sinai... Pursuing this kind of trivia hunt for bugs in an environment employing Unicode is not any different than prusuing the same kind of bugs in any other environment. It is within the purview of the security community to find such bugs before hackers find them. But those bugs

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Moe Elzubeir
Hello, Before you call this thread a waste of time, and out of curiosity.. what were theconsiderations put forth which determined the way the bidi algorithm is (uax#9). Ie. what were the pros and cons of a reversible bidi? Also, who make up the 'bidi community'? The users or the

FW: Database To Web Browser

2002-02-04 Thread Magda Danish (Unicode)
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 12:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Database To Web Browser Hi I'm sure I'm missing something very simple here, I am trying to program a refugee website in multiple languages.

Re: Database To Web Browser

2002-02-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
The @CODEPAGE directive or Session.CodePage property must be set to 1251 for cyrillic text to properly be sent from ASP code to the browser. MichKa Michael Kaplan Trigeminal Software, Inc. -- http://www.trigeminal.com/ - Original Message - From: Magda Danish (Unicode) [EMAIL

Fw: Variation selectors for narrow/wide EastAsian glyphs

2002-02-04 Thread Werner LEMBERG
Please comment. Send answers to [EMAIL PROTECTED] also. The main usage would be terminals like xterm. Werner ---BeginMessage--- Werner LEMBERG wrote on 2002-02-04 15:23 UTC: One potential alternative is that, given Unicode 3.2 has just introduced the notion of variation

Re: Variation selectors for narrow/wide EastAsian glyphs

2002-02-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
I am not a member of that list, so best to answer here. Variation selectors are ONLY allowed for specific characters and therefore the proposal given here is not possible or sensible (there are not narrow and wide varities of any of the characters currently being considered for usage with

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Gaspar Sinai
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Mark Davis wrote: Outlook Express, at least the version you are using, has a bug; This is not a bug; it is specifically cited in the Bidirectional Conformance section of Chapter 3 as one of the ways a higher-level protocol can override the BIDI algorithm. I otherwise

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread John Cowan
Gaspar Sinai scripsit: Hold on there! You admit that unicode alrgorithm is *really* not reversable? I was just bluffing because I just saw that their is no reverse algorithm published in the standard! It can't be reversable, as my little English = CIBARA demonstration showed. The only way

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Mark Leisher
This thread is a waste of time. Gaspar If unicode bi-di algorithm was reversable none of this would Gaspar happen. Software developers, who are flash and blood people, would Gaspar be able to do a clean room implementation of the algorithm and the Gaspar reverse of it. The

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread $B$m!;!;!;!;(B $B$m!;!;!;(B
No Real World document is going to make sense read both ways. It will make sense one way, thus: "BARA-LA AW MALSI-AL mean the Arabs and Islam respectively". The other order will make no sense at all. Good style might say to put in a line break so you know what's going on. I don't know if that

Re: GB 18030 question

2002-02-04 Thread Yung-Fong Tang
I looks like both Mac/Linux/Window N6.2 and current Mozilla map that to FFE3. Looks like IE on winXP do the same way. We, mozilla i18n group, got the GB18030 mapping table from sun. B Yuan, any comment? Michael Everson wrote: At 11:23 -0800 2002-02-01, Deborah Goldsmith wrote: There is

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Kenneth Whistler
Gaspar wrote: The BIDI algorithm is not reversible, and could not be made reversible without eliminating features that are important to the bidi community. This was considered at the time the bidi algorithm was developed. Hold on there! You admit that unicode alrgorithm is *really* not

Re: GB 18030 question

2002-02-04 Thread Qingjiang (Brian) Yuan
Frank and Deborah, After I saw the e-mail from Deborah, I asked our Beijing office to contact the CESI. The follow is the information we got: -- Have contacted with CESI. It is really a glyph bug. They have fixed it,

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Gaspar Sinai
On Mon, 4 Feb 2002, Mark Leisher wrote: [...cut some stuff to save room...] I don't understand your reasoning. Applying the bidi algorithm or a higher-level protocol does not change the backing store. Applying the bidi algorithm is essentially a one-way transformation, but the original

Re: Unicode and Security

2002-02-04 Thread Michael \(michka\) Kaplan
From: Gaspar Sinai [EMAIL PROTECTED] If the standard wants me to confuse the user, I would rather dump the standard than comply. Well, don't let the door hit you in the a** on the way out? Te users will be less confused than you realize -- only people who walk in with agendas see the flaws

Re: Variation selectors for narrow/wide EastAsian glyphs

2002-02-04 Thread David Starner
On Mon, Feb 04, 2002 at 03:48:48PM -0800, Michael (michka) Kaplan wrote: Variation selectors are ONLY allowed for specific characters and therefore the proposal given here is not possible or sensible (there are not narrow and wide varities of any of the characters currently being considered