I would need libLLVM-13.so on my piCorePlayer in order to run rustc:
Why would you want to run rustc on pCP? You can run it on any "full
blown" OS, or even cross-compile for the Pi - it might be worlds faster,
too. It's what I'm doing for the Spotty helper application. I even use a
Github
I have this funny phenomenon, that sometimes after reboot, the
screensaver does not turn on after 30s to my "beloved" black digital
clock (black). Also switching to other "clocks" does not help them.
That would usually be the case when it didn't get valid time
information. This can happen when
How do I run the command ?
Via command line ?
You'd have to use something like Putty to connect over SSH to the
device. Then run the command on the shell there. I don't think there's a
way to run a command through the web UI.
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No m3u.txt jpg or other files except a few albums with Pdfs with Kids
Albums lyrics.
No playlists either.
So, no more than 3 directories depth
Please try to run the command provided. The three levels are down from
the pCP's point of view.
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So is the glibc version the reason why pCP doesn't use the ARM7 or
aarch64 versions of audio-scan? I checked my pCP player and glibc was
2.32 compared to Raspberry Pi OS at 2.31.
I don't know. You'd have to ask Paul.
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Having said that, the version of the scanner is 1.05, so maybe there is
some relation to pCP?
That's another "issue". Paul hasn't updated the Audio::Scan module yet.
I'm sure he'll get there.
But the bug causing the scanner to crash was related to some work being
done to port the Windows
When using the nightly dev (LMS 8.4) scanning the library no longer
works. I assume this is because of the new version of SCAN which has not
been included in the LMS Binaries and Libraries ?`
How does it fail? I don't think pCP has been updated to use the latest
scanner module.
This actually
When using the nightly dev (LMS 8.4) scanning the library no longer
works. I assume this is because of the new version of SCAN which has not
been included in the LMS Binaries and Libraries ?`
How does it fail? I don't think pCP has been updated to use the latest
scanner module.
Is it also possible to install it directly from the terminal with apt
get etc ?
pCP is a full Linux distribution based on piCore Linux. It's NOT an
application, but the operating system and everything. Only smaller.
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How does one go into an item using the remote when using this grid view,
is there a select key?
This probably depends on the remote you're using.
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I would like it to be more user frendly (photo of artist during choice,
photo of album,...)
Albumcovers should already be shown. I recommend using the Joggler Grid
skin (800x480).
And with the MusicArtistInfo plugin you can have artist pictures, too.
Lms-community >> lms-plugin-repository
File is extensions.xml
Added target=“jivelite”
I don't think this would work. It might help Jivelite users, but would
at the same time hide the applet on other devices. Those targets are
exclusive: anything not in the list would not get the applet.
Paul, could you please amend the download/install Development version
link to the new LMS 8.4?
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.4
I thought pCP was using these links which are not version specific:
https://downloads.slimdevices.com/releases/latest.xml
I've been trying to use piCorePlayer / LMS for the past couple of days
With LMS running on the same Pi as you play back the music?
LMS randomly stops playing part way through a song.
What kind of track? Flac? Mp3? ...
[84216.042087] Alignment trap: not handling instruction e1962f9f at
I, too, would like to understand how a web page could be "run" without a
browser!
It can't. But there are a few ways to hide the fact that it's running a
web page. Electron is one of them. Many popular apps nowadays are
written using web technologies (JS, HTML, CSS), eg. Spotify, Slack, VS
Does the SqueezePlay controller have control over only the local player,
or any on the network?
SqueezePlay is the software initially created to run on
Controller/Radio/Touch. But it's available for desktop computers, too.
As its name says it's a player. But it can also be used to control
IR, etc. I am curious though, if and when version 8.3.0 of LMS will be
incorporated, or if it has already and I just didn't figure out how to
do it?
On the LMS page (in pCP) you should be able to select which flavour of
LMS you want to install. 8.3 would be the development version.
For the Docker image I chose Debian "bullseye-slim". Debian is well
supported, stable, and the slim version doesn't come with too much bloat
(GUI etc.).
Whether it's "the best" for this purpose is debatable. But it's
certainly a reasonable choice.
What determines how much RAM the operating system is using for
buffers/cache ?
I'm no specialist either. But I believe the OS would simply use whatever
was available for these buffers and caches. And when an application
requires more RAM itself, then the OS would free some of the buffers to
Mem: 3900560K used, 36380K free, 51284K shrd, 1732056K buff, 1794356K
cached
CPU: 1.6% usr 1.0% sys 0.0% nic 97.2% idle 0.0% io 0.0% irq 0.1%
sirq
But cueing up a long playlist uses more. It uses all of my 4GB RAM and
maybe would use even more if it was available.
But of those 4GB it's
I was mainly concerned that the SSD was being used as a swap drive or
something similar that would be writing to it too often.
I've used multiple Pis with SD cards for years. Not a single one card
failed so far. The SD card in my main system must be 4-5 years old.
Would there be any benefit
Mem: 3839392K used, 97548K free, 49964K shrd, 1502476K buff, 1844304K
cached
Don't worry: 1.5G are used for buffers, 1.8G caches. LMS only uses
around 200MB.
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- /networkmount/Playlists/:/playlist:rw
- /networkmount/Playlists/Backgrounds:/backgrounds:ro
Might depend on the network protocol used to mount those shares etc.
What are you using?
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sudo rc-service lms start
rc-service is unknown. There are serious limitations in that image...
I've see similiar issues when I attempted to run slimserver.pl directly.
Permissions issues or the networking errors?
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As far as the perl version, I don't know anything about iSH but is it
possible to add the 3.15 main repo to /etc/apk/repositories and then
just upgrade perl?
The LMS package would need to be upgraded, too. They two must be in sync
with the Perl version.
Tried this in iSH. I can indeed install LMS on my iPhone :-D. Alas: it
comes with Perl 5.34 binaries, but the Perl version installed is 5.32. I
only installed iSH a day or two ago. What would I have to do to get the
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That would interesting - do you have any iDevices to try those builds
under iSH?
I have a latest generation iPhone.
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It looks like the 8.3.0 LMS lmscommunity/logitechmediaserver image has
not been updated in 7 days. The images for LMS 8.3.0 on the Beta
download page were updated on 02/16 and 02/20.
Thanks for the heads up. I was wondering why those builds were done so
quickly :-D. Should be fixed now.
iSH is using i686.
Am I right that an i686 build would therefore allow, for instance, LMS
to run on an iPad, and Squeezelite to run on an iPhone?
That's the idea I wanted to explore...
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Your repo URL would give me a 404.
Yes, in a browser it will, I don't have directory listing enabled. The
repo will work from the Alpine package manager.
Oh, and unsupported platoforms, too? I blindly tried installation on iSH
again - before I saw that I did that already right after your
I set LMS on port 9010 and Squeezelite on port 9020 , as I have
Portainer on port 9000 .
lmscommunity/logitechmediaserver
HTTP_PORT 9002
Port configuration
0.0.0.0:3483 3483/tcp
:::3483 3483/tcp
0.0.0.0:3483 3483/udp
:::3483 3483/udp
0.0.0.0:9002 9002/tcp
:::9002 9002/tcp
Was
I set LMS on port 9010 and Squeezelite on port 9020 , as I have
Portainer on port 9000 .
Would you mind sharing more information about your configuration?
Environment variables, networking configuration etc.
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I have an Rpi4 and am running PiCorePlayer and streaming from Qobuz.
The 'random' and 'repeat' buttons are not working either in the
picoreplayer or in LMS. Everything else works fine. Any ideas?
Is this limited to Qobuz content, or do you see the same with local
files, too?
I could also give running it with NYTProf a try, but I currently do not
know, how I could
I'd start with easier analytics. Eg. what 3rd party plugins do you have
installed? Anything in server.log?
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For most of the time, I am only listening to local music files (Apple
Lossless, FLAC, AAC and MP3). In the last couple of months, I have not
listened to any radio stream.
Hmm... can you still give 8.3 a try?
Is there any way to see what the server is doing while it is consuming
resources?
For some reason unknown to me slimserver has recently started consuming
100% CPU even if no music is playing and no scan is going on.
Do you happen to listen to some of the German public radio stations?
There's a known issue - see
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/issues/700. It has been
All checkboxes are ticked:
-enabled synchronous
-Allowed access from non priv ports
-allow users to access mounted subfolders
I don't check the latter two.
What about the pCP side of things? See
https://docs.picoreplayer.org/how-to/add_network_share/
Why is the piCorePlayer LMS app unable to scan the Synology NFS mounted
folders that the Synology LMS app can successfully scan? I have set the
permissions as directed in the piCorePlayer setup instructions.
Most likely down to permissions. You'd have to share a little more
information about
Having spent many hours reading and fiddling, I decided to give up -
basically it seems that MacBooks just don't play nice with Samba
Ahm... I'm using it every single day. With tens of thousands of files.
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What release can the Pi2 handle? Looking at release notes 3.20 talks
I updated a Pi2B to the upcoming pCP 8.1.0 earlier today.
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Hi, during last week I tried to install the Docker container on a
RPI4B and finally this was succesfull by using the option proposed by
BramWithaar: do not use 'latest' but use '8.1.2'. So I also must
conclude that something in 'latest' has changed. I notice that in
Portainer (whch I used to
Synology NAS. The "Beta Website" I was talking about is:
https://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/?ver=8.3 - which is where I
look to find out if there's a new release. Should I be looking elsewhere
to see if the Docker image has been updated?
Oh, I thought watchtower would do this (I'm not
Ok, I can confirm something's wrong right now. The build host fails to
upload the new images. I'll have to investigate when I'm back on VPN.
Could you please try again?
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Ok, I can confirm something's wrong right now. The build host fails to
upload the new images. I'll have to investigate when I'm back on VPN.
Thanks for the heads up!
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should be Nov 16. Not a big deal, I was just wondering if the
repository has been properly updated or if I should be looking elsewhere
for updates. The image that I've been using is
lmscommunity/logitechmediaserver:8.3.0
We'll see again today, as I've just committed a small change. There
that the authentication process is running, but it's invisible to
Spotify clients on my network. Does this need a different port to be
Most likely 5353/UDP. But it might conflict with other services running
on your NAS. In that case just use credentials on the Spotty page.
I have 3 picore's and each one reboots nightly. I have my primary picore
managing the other two, but after a reboot, this association is lost. Is
there a way to programmatically re-associate them after reboot instead
of having to manually do it?
Please elaborate a bit what "managing" means in
Thank you for all the help so far. I did the additional buildme.sh
script commands.
The CPAN/build/arch folder contains a 5.32 folder which contains the
folders: bin lib man.
Should there be an architecture file or folder starting with aarch?
The documentation says:
cp -r
Define old. If one is looking for a fanless system this is exactly the
type of CPUs you will end up with. Just check the specs of well known
NAS systems - a huge number of them are arm5 or i386 code inside.
Exactly: nowadays it's only used in closed systems where the user is not
supposed to
I don’t know which of the instructions in the link I should look at.
You'd have to download the contents of
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-vendor/tree/public/8.3/CPAN, then
run the buildme.sh script. See
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-vendor/blob/public/8.3/CPAN/README.md.
Does that mean I need to install another version of Perl that works for
i386?
There are various ways to deal with this: use an x86_64 distribution
instead, compile the binaries yourself (see
https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver-vendor/tree/public/8.3/CPAN),
install a custom Perl...
Are
I made a new Debian Bullseye installation (without GUI) on an old FitPC
with an Intel Atom processor (i386).
It looks like Logitech Media Server 8.3.0 is running and Perl 5.32.1 as
well.
But I cannot access port 9000 from my tablet or PC (Windows 10).
I guess LMS is not running. We don't
New to LMS on Docker. Running 8.2.1 (1628483320 @ Mon Aug 9 06:40:35
CEST 2021), but now I'm receiving the LMS notification 'A new version of
Logitech Media Server is available.'
Update the Docker image you're using. How you do that? Depends on your
Docker installation. You'll need to give
So what is using port 3483 on my Synology, and how can I override that
and let Docker LMS use that port instead? I have the old non-Docker LMS
package installed, but it's not running so I'm assuming it's not
reserving that port.
It is. Get rid of it and you'll be able to use the Docker version.
On 01.09.21 13:13, Mark Fraser wrote:
>> Did you enable SSH on the device?
> Yes,
> Fing is showing ports 22 80 open.
What kind of player is this? Squeezebox doesn't have a web UI (port 80).
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Tried logging into one of my players this morning via SSH only to find:
Permission denied, please try again.
Did you enable SSH on the device?
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Ah, I see - so, no need for any `-e` option, but simply change the
internal setting, for example to 9091, and then `-p` option would be `-p
9091:9091' for the CLI? And, a restart for the internal setting to take
effect externally?
Don't even know... but it shouldn't hurt to restart it.
Thanks @mherger - what is the relevant env veritable for 9090: as 9000
is to HTTP_PORT, what is 9090 to ??? That is, what's the env variable I
need use to replace 'SOMEPORT' in the above example?
There's no need to set an environment variable for the CLI. The port can
be changed in
Sorry to pick up an old thread - but, I have the same Q (cockpit runs on
9090) and just wondering whether adjusting the port from inside the
container is sufficient - wouldn't it have to be adjusted with mapping
and environment variable as per re-assignment of the http port on
starting the
When i run "mscommunity/logitechmediaserver:8.1.2" the container starts
without problem.
Haven't tried other, newer, versions yet, but there seems to be a
problem with 'stable'
Hmm... the biggest difference between the two is the underlying Debian
version. But that seems to be working for the
is it possible to pickup "libgomp1" within the docker container
lmscommunity/logitechmediaserver?
Only in this way the plugins AirPlay Bridge and UPNP Bridge are
working.
Have you tested whether that's all that's needed to get it working?
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Generally a good idea, but the lms is running on another host and the
player will be turned off
You can run squeezelite on Raspberry Pi OS, too. That's the component
dealing with the playback. You're not limited to piCorePlayer.
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Maybe its generally a better idea to go with a smaler httpd solution
Well, you can always write a LMS plugin :-).
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is there any chance for an apache2 - php 7 extension?
pCP was designed to do one task, and do it easily. Ok, it does more
today. But it's not a general purpose OS. I'd say you better use
Raspberry Pi OS if you need a full fledged web server.
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Try to mount "/etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro" at runtime.
Thanks, I did try that, as well as "-e TZ=country/city" for my location.
I hope you tried a valide timezone, not just "my country/my city".
I tried another Docker image for LMS from the Docker Hub, and that one
seems to work ok.
* Connected to opml.radiotime.com (104.17.107.184) port 80 (#0)
> GET /Tune.ashx?...d0872deb8b9d9: HTTP/1.1
> Host: opml.radiotime.com
> User-Agent: curl/7.58.0
> Accept: */*
>
< HTTP/1.1 200 OK
That's from inside the container where LMS is running?
Please share your full
For background, I'm using a Sharptools dashboard to control the PiCore:
I don't know sharptools. Is this a cloud service, or a piece of software
running in your own network? Do you access LMS from the outside, or the
LAN only?
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What I need is an https connection. How can I accomplish that?
Does your automation system not allow http? I don't think pCP has
support for https to access its settings pages. You could use something
like https://nginxproxymanager.com. But the question really is whether
you really need
[70-01-01 09:30:00.] main::init (390) Starting Logitech Media Server
There's a problem with the time in your container: this is Jan 1 1970.
Not today.
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@mherger: Am I right in believing that the current heavy hitters in LMS
maintenance prefer to keep everything documented in
forums.slimdevices.com, rather than going back to the wiki model?
The model is way less important than the maintainers of the
documentation. The problem with the old
For what features is the 9090 port used in LMS, can this port be changed
to something else?
9090 is the CLI (a simple connection over which you can control LMS).
Whether you need it or not depends on what external apps you're using to
control LMS. Some of them use the CLI.
The port can be
Slim::Utils::Scanner::Remote::__ANON__ (236) Error: Can't connect to remote server to
retrieve playlist for,
http://opml.radiotime.com/Tune.ashx?id=s17488=aac,ogg,mp3=16=90fce9503d8eb3f6847d0872deb8b9d9:
Timed out waiting for data.
Can you access (curl, or browser) that URL from the
Checked the perl_io_socket_ssl.tcz and the 3 perl_crypt_* modules, they
are installed.
Could you pls advise what to do now...?
Hmm... that's odd. Uninstall/reinstall them? Are you using pCP 64 bit?
Did you upgrade from pCP7?
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Well not fully automatic Press the "Manual Update" button. Since
you are changing versions, the automatic update check from within LMS
does not work. But the upgrade links from with the update script do
pull and load the correct version.
Thanks Paul for the clarification! You're
Any chance of making 8.3 the dev branch?
http://downloads.slimdevices.com/nightly/index.php?ver=8.3
As Paul said this should be automatic. That said I did have problems
updating earlier today, too. It was a caching issue, and a few hours
later the dev.xml would return the correct data. Maybe
The fact it only applies to MP3 is inconsistent but nobody cared too
much - however it only works for 44.1k - play non 44.1k and you get slow
playback or chipmunks.
Does that apply to formats other than mp3, too? Would they fail to play?
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It boiled down to when you have set an « audio startup time » in player
settings, and mp3 is played, LMS inserts a series of silence frames but
And it does so for mp3 only? Other formats would play correctly as
expected?
Now, the real question was: is that feature still meaningful or is it
I've submitted that https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver/pull/644. Do
we want it or not, I'm not sure and I'm certainly neutral. At least this
one works for 32, 44.1 and 48k as well as for remote tracks when
possible
I've missed this discussion... would you mind summarizing the issue for me?
1) Is running Synology LMS 7.7.6 a limiting factor which is going to
only get worse?
Yes. SSL support being one reason. Plus you won't be able to keep your
Synology NAS up to date - which is bad.
2) Is a pi4 likely to feel like an improvement over the older NAS?
Yes, most likely.
The Joggler skin should be the correct solution. If the Artwork is good,
they can use it, I think.
There's the piGridSkin - optimized for the Pi's original 7" display
(like Joggler), but with larger artwork.
There is only the main menu that should be stripped a little bit. I
don't know
The display with resolutiom 1280x400 after that looks like that:
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So here is my question: Is it possible, to move the progress bar a
little bit down? Otherwise move the 3 textlines up.
It's been a long time... Maybe you should start a new skin based on
PiGrid. I think the numbers you need are far, far down the Joggler skin
files:
will list the plugins, below that I'd like to migrate or install and
That's a list of repositories, not plugins. I have a couple of plugins
in the repository. But you probably don't need those entries at all, as
those plugins would be part of the main repository file anyway.
Can you tell
1. Copy one plugin folder or a few plugin folders from
/ProgramData/squeezebox/cache/InstalledPluins/Plugins - to the
/LMS/config/cache/InstalledPlugins/Plugins
I've said it many times, and I'll continue to say over and over again if
needed: don't mess with these folders. They're managed by
8.1.2 will be the next one?
While it's not the release version, it's the stable branch. There's
little risk using it already.
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it is not the best feature. As an end user I would be perfectly happy if
accessing the LMS settings from the PcP page would just go to the
classic or default skin in stead of to Material.
I've committed a change which should re-direct any skin's
/settings/index.html to Default, if it didn't
Then the @eadir folder problem will be solved in the next version?
What do you consider "the next version"? It is in the 8.1.2 (stable) and
8.2.0 images.
Another problem that I am having is when I dockerized LMS 8.1.1 and
using ipeng I do not see the Spotify (Icon/link) that appears to me
That's more of a Material (or LMS...) issue. /settings/index.html is
only available in Default. I should probably add something.
But /default/settings/index.html should always work, right?
No, that's exactly what is missing.
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If LMS > Settings > Interface > Web Interface is set to Material Skin,
then the "Configure LMS" button is no longer able to open the LMS UI.
See also -
https://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?114390-Cannot-Access-Configure-LMS=1019041=1#post1019041
That's more of a Material (or LMS...)
I tried to install Docker and LMS in docker.
However: it just doesn't work: the container seems to be running but I
can't access IP-adress:9000.
Port 9000 might be used by the host (typically on Synology). In that
case you should try 9001, 9002 etc.
This time, a large number of temp files had been left behind after I had
shut down the LMS.
Is there any pattern in those files? Size? Filename? File type?
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Can you tell me the exact revision or git commit of the last working
version (see Settings/Information)?
Sure, Previous one I had installed which still works is:
Logitech Media Server Version: 8.2.0 - 1612849590 @ Tue Feb 9 07:22:12
CET 2021
I installed the latest build, and it's running as
Stopped latest dev image and 2 previous 8.2.0 versions (I still haven't
deleted) work just fine.
Can you tell me the exact revision or git commit of the last working
version (see Settings/Information)?
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No, AFAIK, 500 is the number of cached tracks. After that, they should
be closed but I'm not sure that works as expected. I've reduced that to
10 and traced DESTROY it's very unclear to me when it happens, except
when you terminate the slimserver process. The code is in
/usr/share/perl5/Slim
https://github.com/ralph-irving/jivelite/tree/master/share/jive/applets
Sorry to ask: is there a description of these applets and how to install
There's not much to install: they already are. Or did you find one which
isn't?
Best description you'd probably find in the strings.txt you'd
For some reason the server came up with the setting
protectSettings: 1
Are you NATing traffic from outside the VM? LMS doesn't like to be
accessed from another network.
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Not sure if this has been discussed or requested... Is there a way or a
community project to update Jivelite skin?
Not only can you update it, but you can even add more of them. You could
work on your own skin without touching the existing ones. Skins are
implemented as "applets". See
Hi NoobNR7
I believe you should start over by describing the problem you're having
in just a line or two. Then add information about your LMS version, pCP
version, player hardware, Squeezelite version etc. Otherwise it's hard
to get from your lengthy posting what we're after.
New modules package uploaded to repo:
lms-modules-8.2-r0.apk
for x86_64 only. Let me know if anyone needs any other architecture
built.
Haha... for a short moment I was wondering whether this would allow me
to run LMS on the iPhone using iSH :D. But that seems to be 686, rather
than x86_64.
I've installed UPnP/DLNA Media Interface on my picoreplayer but don't
know where to put 'videos' and even if this would work.
Mount a drive with the videos like you did for the music.
(that said I wouldn't want to motivate anyone to use LMS as a video
server :-))
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