Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] identical servers and folders, different statistics

[Mnyb]

There are settings that affects the scan , on the top off my head I
could only rem er the multidisc one .
Track count is identical so what setting affects the number of artists ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] identical servers and folders, different statistics

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What is your settings for disc sets to be treated as one one album or
multiple albums ? That can make the difference in disc count.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] squeezeboxserver wants older versions of Perl modules

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Just upgrade with the never 7.9.2 if that does not work ,seek help again
.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] ANNOUNCE: piCorePlayer 4.0.0

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Just me chiming in with a confirmation that the insitu upgrade to 4.0.0
from 3.5.0 worked perfectly yet again .
With the known exception that static IP is not set (as described during
upgrade ), funny enough it actually remebers most of the settings except
DNS so i assume it's a design decision to cover some case where you dont
want to loose network conection.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Playlist not saving to LMS

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mflaten wrote: 
> No that was not the problem.

Did you checkmyhe permissions of thenplaylist dir ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Playlist not saving to LMS

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Try to have the playlist dir outside of the music library AND then make
it writable by LMS bet your music library is read only




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.5.0

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Mnyb wrote: 
> OK then , i'll try that later

Ok did the uppgrade with config file on USB stick went well , some
settings did not carry over like static-ip and some more ,but the harder
to remember tweaks and squeezelite settings did .
So this was easy enough to do .

I have a bunch of SD cards to try with i always keep a working one from
previus version , its very easy to roll back that way.

SO now I have two working 3.5.0 piCores (before one piCore 3.1 and one
max2play) great job team :)

One of the is the audio version too , just to try it .

Anyone care to explain more on how to use the -U option , if needed and
whatnot ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.5.0

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New Q trying out the new 3.5.0 on my other RPi .

How to set : "Unmute ALSA control and set to full volume". ? what should
i write in the box
This player is always on 100% volume



Set ALSA control to unmute and set to full volume (-U)   less>



Unmute ALSA control and set to full volume.

Note: Not supported with -V option.

You have the following audio cards/controls:

Card 0: ALSA - Control: PCM
Card 1: sndrpihifiberry - Control: Tx Source




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.5.0

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paul- wrote: 
> To be honest, I think it would be more reliable to start with a new
> image, and then use the newconfig method of upgrading.  I don't test 
> multiple version jumps in the update process.  That way your 3.10 image
> doesn't get wrecked.
> 
> 3.10 was using an old repo,  and there was some "fixing" that had to be
> done to get it to upgrade.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

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Well don't forget crossfade if you design something




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

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d6jg wrote: 
> I am running piCorePlayer on a wired Pi3 as a dedicated LMS with FLACs
> on a NAS via NFS.
> No issue with Spotty but I think I have found a limitation of the
> hardware.
> If I ask LMS (via the web interface) to display "Albums with small
> artwork" it kills playback until the search has completed.
> This is whether I am playing local FLACs or Spotify tracks.
> No big issue though as its a rare thing to do.

Make sure that items per page for the web-UI is the default 50 . Having
200 or so so that you can scroll a bit before selecting next page does
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

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Try PiCore player its even faster than max2play much less overhead.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Spotty on Rpi3 / Very slow

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And your internet connection?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Xubuntu 14.04 & startup sequence of LMS

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Btw Triodes spotify plugin is dead and so is the oficial spotify app .

Remove thoose and start using spotty.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] No sound from Allo Piano 1.1 dac with PiCore player

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Test the normal version instead of the audio version




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

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If you wait a while Radio wont show up eventually ? You should be
running the latest 7.9.1 beta it has some improvements regarding this
behaviour.

Run ifconfig or similar to see if the rpi actually has got ip dns etc .

You only have one network interface running on the pi ?

Workaround.

Make a static network setup with ip dns and gateway etc so that DHCP is
not a factor.
( make sure that the DHCP pool does not include this ip ).




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS start\stop\restart

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The important part is actually the DNS adress , if that is not known to
the system before LMS starts you get these symptoms.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] DSD native or upsampled

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Even if you can buy 192 or 384 downloads does not necessary mean that
the studio recorded or mastered it that way




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] DSD native or upsampled

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Well i would say that 99% of music is at its very best mastered 24/96
pcm , with the exception of some small audiophile brands as 2L et all




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] BitPerfect

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steff wrote: 
> Regarding jitter, since almost all DACs today are internally reclocked,
> it should not be a matter of the source\streamer.
> 
> Correct?

Not really , and the levels of jitter claimed in most data for almost
anything is still 1000' of timesbelow whats considered audible ..
So even if source jitter do affect even reclocked in a very minute ways
, you can measure I think , think about it as a fillter , but still it
does not get audible even if can show the effect .

Thats totally eliminated by for example asynchronus USB or ethernet
direct to the streamer (also async comunication ) .

Then you have electrical noise etc thats alos claimed to do "harm" .

I'm no longer a believer in this myself so i'm in agrrement :) really (
i has been a devout believer in all kind of audiphool nonsense ) .

But its really down to cluthing at straws arguments to justife an imaged
difference "heard" trough uncontrolled non blind testing aka your are
not even wrong as no real information cuts above the noise :)




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] rpi3+pcp3.22+LMS causes transporter & SBradio to jump in and out of LMS

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_NK_ wrote: 
> pulling my hair..

Same account for every player if you only got one mysb.com your probably
ok and actually if see every player there when you log in then you are
ok :) some guys may make the mistake and register every one under a new
email or somesuch and inavertely create multiple accounts .
Or get used players that really are still registred on the previus
owners account . Or forgot thier login and creates yet another account..




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] BitPerfect

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steff wrote: 
> Talking about "bitperfect", I would like to ask a question to you.
> 
> If we take different devices labeled as "bitperfect", I suppose that
> there should not be any difference among them.
> I mean... no difference in the bitstream delivered... 
> is this sentence correct?
> 
> Since I am playing around this matters since years, some days ago i got
> an OTG USB cable and connected my DACs to a Sony Experia Z1 Android
> smartphone where I installed "USB Audio Player PRO".
> Everything is played from a NAS and it works well even with my 352 kHz \
> 24 bit FLAC with no problems.
> 
> The question is: what could be the difference between an Android
> smartphone running USB Audio Player Pro and pCP and a PC running Jriver
> or any other high-end multi k$$$ streamer?
> If bitperfect is bitperfect... there shuld be no difference at all
> (speaking about bitstream and not other features), or not?
> 
> thanks.

Correct they will deliver the exact same bit stream :) they will also
sound the same unless one of the sources is seriusly broken or the DAC
is very shoddily built . Now devout audiophiles starts to talk about
“jitter” etc as a factor .

Jriver is decent software and does not claim any magic features , but
there are other fake software like amarra and audio optimiser , that
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] rpi3+pcp3.22+LMS causes transporter & SBradio to jump in and out of LMS

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Have you checked your power on resume settings for each player ?

And also I *think* there is a setting in the audio settings for the
digital out should behave if the playback is stopped , just to adopt to
varius AV recievers and DAC's that auto switch depending on the state on
the spdiff output .

Sorry , that I have no Touch or SB3 connected anymore they exposed this
setting and i think the transporter does to, I forgot the name of this
setting :/
This could affect "clicking" and input switch of in associated equipment
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] rpi3+pcp3.22+LMS causes transporter & SBradio to jump in and out of LMS

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No keep them registred , but make sure it's the same account for all
players .

And also put in your mysqueezebox login in the LMS settings for that so
that your LMS can see your mysb.com account . That way switching players
back and forth goes smoothly (you can see from within LMS if a player is
at mysb.com ) and the app and radio menu in LMS will work properly.
And actually if you have your LMS account set in LMS you will probably
find your picore player registred at mysb.com too .

I really have no clue but

The "picore player" is on the same PI as LMS and they don't loose
conection ?, could that tell us anything ? regarding networking .

Yes radio's wifi icon turns red when conection is lost .

Further youre sure that the players are connected by ethernet ? you
don't just have to put in the cables you must also redo the network
setup in each player .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] BitPerfect

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You can dig out some old treads about this too . But here it goes...

Back when I thought this was very important I’ve used some test to
indirectly verify that the transfer really was bitperfect .

There are signals that’s usually are packed/disguised in regular pcm
namely hdcd & DTS or ac3 ( Dolby digital ) that’s how for example a DVD
player sends ac3 over spdiff or toslink to a ht-reciver .
The thing is this must be bitperfect or the encoding gets lost and you
get gibberish.

So a great test is to get some ac3 encoded wav file’s, dial in stuff to
what you think are zero gain, 100% bitperfect and then conect the
digital out to a home theatre processor or reciever and listen you get
5.1 sound or noise .

On one of the side topics here , i’m More or less convinced that a good
well dithered digital volume control is actually performs better than
any analog implementation  a good digital systems noise if of the same
character as good old analog noise , s/n ratio is the same if achieved
by analog or digital means ( forget al those staircase graphs in
sterephile that’s not it’s actually working ). It’s also an issue of
implementation of the rest of the system .
The whole gain structure must be reasonable so that full scale signal is
just as loud as you ever want to listen . Then quieter volume are well
quieter :) the volume is so low that any possible degradation is
inaudible anyway .

And then you have your 24 bit dithered digila system with an s/n ratio
of say 144dB and then you play some old 70’s rock album 70dB s/n ratio
that’s less than 13 bits  there are ofcourse better records , but
what I mean that in practice the system noise produced by a digital
volume adjustment is far below the noise in your actual recordings you
listen to , even if you bougth 24 bit or DSD album , what most of the
data actually is are random noise from the recording .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] rpi3+pcp3.22+LMS causes transporter & SBradio to jump in and out of LMS

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epoch1970 wrote: 
> Two LMS servers on the network at the same time??
> (especially bad if you've cloned the second from the first)

multiple servers works fine . Until as you say you copy server.prefs and
don't remove the line with the server uuid 

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce piCorePlayer 3.20

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hankmarvin wrote: 
> Sorry for the late replies, been working away.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nothing crazy, just LMS\Music Store\folder per artist\folder per album
> 
> It does scan them because I can see the new folders when I browse music
> and as a test i copied a track from a working folder into one of the new
> ones and it could play that track, it just won't play any new tracks.
> 
> 
> 
> I can't see any permission differences, it's just an external HD, not
> tied to any device.
> 
> Wasn't aware of the SMB share, the thing is I bring the HD back to my
> house to transfer music but I guess I could take it there.

What is the HD format ext3 ntfs fat32 ?

If you login to the PI via SSH and run ls-la command on apropriate
places in the file structures ? what do you see ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce piCorePlayer 3.20

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It’s possible the the file permissions got mangled when moving the HD
and plug it it to another computer.
I would compare file permissions on those files and directories not seen
by  LMS .

Btw they arenwithin the folders you setup LMS to scan ?

And would it not work better to use the SMB share feature and write
files to the drive while mounted to the pi3 ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Still two issue to FIX

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But where do you have to pick the rigth player ? If LMS web UI only
shows one ? The one with the Mac of the WiFi dongle .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer + usb hd

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nervoteso wrote: 
> thanks. just bought a toshiba usb. so should i plug usb hd in raspberry
> and then mount it? should i set any path (files are stored in a
> directgory called music)? 
> i'm copying all files from qnap hd to usb hd (it takes a lot - 700 gb of
> stuff)

You mount the drive in picore web interface and set the path you have in
LMS settings for music library.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] picoreplayer + usb hd

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That wold work very well .

Reading the files is faster on USB than the network, scanning would be
faster .

I don't have any suggestions for a suitable USB drive .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Using Jivelite standalone and mixed Success using USB devices with 3.11

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jncweb wrote: 
> Hi Paul,
> 
> Wi-Fi problems were with RPi 3 and picoreplayer 3.20 audio version, so I
> went back to v3.11 mentioned on a previous thread.
> 
> Wi-Fi settings seemed to be entered correctly, but couldn't connect to
> network. I have not tried 3.21.
> 
> best
> John

Why the "audio version" it's basically for very specific i2s needs in
most other cases mostly trouble ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce piCorePlayer 3.20

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ryangodammit wrote: 
> I'm pretty sure I've got that end of it configured ok. I can access it
> pretty easy from various other programs, volumio found it and mounted it
> very easy. Never managed to make it work with max2play though, which was
> also using LMS. 
> 
> One of those links you sent enabled me to map the network drive on my
> windows machine and give its own drive letter, not sure if I can use
> that to help me.
> 
> I am also running kodi on a chromebox on the same network, and using its
> library drive as a mount point happens seemingly automatically with
> everything, very easy.
> 
> I don't seem to be able to get samba share working on pcp. Could that be
> related?
> 
> I suppose I could plug a drive directly into one of the pis, but it
> would just be so much more convenient if I could keep it tucked away
> with the router.
> 
> Any ideas? I really feel like I've configured everything correctly, I'm
> sure it will just turn out to be something stupid like a space in the
> wrong place2348723488

Has this been asked ? do you have spaces or non english characters or
some very odd characters in your password ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Persistent network mount possible?

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Did you try to browse the file system with a terminal window not just
LMS ?

LMS expect that the assigned music folder is always there when it's
running it's does not like when music directories disappear.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] small footprint OS for virtual installation (on Hyper-V)

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Ubuntu should work. I use linux mint 18 it to works very well and is
small enough i run that in esxi




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

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Julf wrote: 
> I don't really understand the problem. Why would the FLAC material need
> to be transcoded?

If you aquire 24/196 dowloads to replace your mp3's .

Funny thing music bussines for downloads , you can buy total cr*p low
rate mp3's or total overkill hirez :) normal CD standard FLAC is less
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

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s2kiwi wrote: 
> I alos with you that CD is good enough for anything but extreme cases. I
> mainly only keep FLAC out of principle. Some of the early MP3's I had
> access to were terrible quality so I picked a lossless format as my
> standard to avoid such issues. In saying that half the FLAC's are off
> CD's with modern day 'maximum volume' mixing which has killed the
> dynamic range... but I digress.
> 
> My main concern concerns are not the raw resolution, but whether
> transcoding will introduce artifacts and the general sound signature
> (which is personal preference anyway). I think I'll give it a go and see
> :)

Just give at try , digital ouputs should be transparent .

And the SoX transcoding library oms uses is known to be good , it should
kot assert any particular signature . Unless you want to (its endlessly
tweakable ) .

Of topic if want to experiment with your DAG and rpi3 with a digital
output board can be fun.
You can then set squeezelite to output the maximum rate that the dac can
handle for any file and say set the volume -3dB while doing it if you
for example suspects that your dac does not handle intersample overs
properly or use esoteric filters like apodising.
Agread that could lead to endless tweaking for nothing . But a Pi can do
that if your inclined to try such things.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

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s2kiwi wrote: 
> So, the mental debate I've had going is this... The only place I have
> which would take a digital input is the main room. I feel nervous about
> using the SB via digital in there as all the FLAC material will need to
> be transcoded on the fly on the 'good' system which feels backward. I'm
> running dual amps into some sensitive EPOS speakers so I'd really like
> the best quality... or am I over thinking that. Will a CD quality stream
> on the SB2 via digital be worse/better/the same as an RCA connected
> Hifiberry DAC? Will I even notice?
> 
> Writing this I suspect it'll come down to the sound signatures of the
> various devices and how they work together, so I'll just have to get an
> optical cable and give it a go...?

SB3 supports 24/48 kHz .

But if you sync the SB3 in another place to your rpi3 it to will ouåuit
24748 anyway in those cases .

In most cases music is 16/44.1 anyway as most records are of this
quality

My personal view better than redbook is debatable i was a stern believer
in hirez for a decade . but the actual case is that CD is good enough
for human hearing .
Note that the actual master used for hirez release could be very
different so it apples an oranges no guarantee which actually better.
The real test downsample a so called hirez file yourself and try hear
the diffrence :)




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] radios disappeared

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sbp wrote: 
> I don't know if you are using piCorePlayer or not for this. 
> But I have seen something similar if LMS starts before an internet
> connection has been established during the boot process. In pCP we
> should have a script in place that will postpone the start of LMS until
> it is connected to the Internet.
> 
> You could try to restart LMS - then I think it will find the radio
> stations.

Yers restart LMS only dont reboot pi .) this usually solves it.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] radios disappeared

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Where is LMS running ? Sounds like it lost connection to
mysqueezebox.com or encountered a DNS problem at startup.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

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s2kiwi wrote: 
> So the bit I didn't mention is one channel seems to have blown on the
> SB3 (and I don't have the skills to diagnose/replace what I assume will
> be a dodgy cap) so I was limited where in the house I could use it
> anyway (as it'll have to be mono only).

Yes that's the cap problem there are treads with pictures .
It has digital outs these will be unaffected by this problem that only
affects the analog out. Is there a zone where something should hook up
to a HT reciever or DAC .

If you retire it sell it as spare parts on this forum , someone would
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

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s2kiwi wrote: 
> I'm running a dedicated linux 2.4Gz machine (ethernet connected) for the
> LMS so no problems there.
> 
> What about if the SB3 isn't in the group - will everything just run at
> the native file stream and the Pi will do the downgrading where needed
> (or does the Pi tell the server the hardware capabilities)?

Good to hear i run annintel nuc nowadays as server ( time to edit My sig
)

For the other Q i havent any USB DAC's to try with it's a big maybe from
me and i do buy try to buy downloads <24/96 so i have very few 24/192 or
"better" ( as I find them pointless) that would be transcoded by one of
My rpi3 as ive use that for My main meridian rig and ive set up
squeezelite to do 24/96 (-3db) for everything there as it handles 24/96
max .

These are kind of fringe cases :) serving 24/192kHz synced to dozens of
players .

Try to not fiddle with LMS so that it sends PCM/WAV to all players
instead of FLAC , if you just don't meddle with the file types settings
your good .
It's a popular myth that WAv sounds better but you basically gets double
the bandwith requirements and it's usually not a problem excepts you
wants to sync 9 players and FLAC uses much less bandwith and player
buffers will last longer all works in your favour .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Transcoding requirements on a Pi?

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Could be a potential problem i LMS also runs on the PI . Is LMS running
elsewhere it handles the transcoding on that system ( and thats systems
limitiations apply ) .

PI can transcode just fine but if several separate needs arise to older
players etc or if you use some obscure formats , ie in cases where you
don't sync it migth not have the capacity .

For it's own needs it's fast enough .

But the general case is still that player report thier capabilty to the
server and servers has to come up with a streams that fits all in the
sync group .

So if the SB3 is in the sync group . the server has to feed all an 24/48
stream . But the transcoding load is on the LMS server machine

And yes wifi can be a limiting factor especially when it's not good as
in rpi3 they are known for problems with thier internal wifi .

A good safe starting point is when the LMS server runs on robust fast
enough system wired to your network .
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS without perl ?

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Never compiled an OS :)

But VM are surprisingly easy these days . And for servers they make a
lot of sense you just move them when you change hardware..




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS without perl ?

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In picoreplayer you can install the complete LMS with all bells and
whistles .
It's not preinstalled in the image but some click and point options in
the PCP web gui and LMS installs.

Running a VM is also neat ( I do that ) just pick a more stable distro
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce piCorePlayer 3.20

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Greg Erskine wrote: 
> hi Uffe.S,
> 
> Wifi seems to be the area where people have the most problem getting
> going. Here is a check list of issues, hope it helps. 
> 
> http://picoreplayer.sourceforge.net/faq_wifi%20does_not_work.shtml
> 
> EDIT: O, do you really use a MAC address for your SSID?
> 
> Your SSID looks like it is "TeliaGateway08-76-FF-9C-29-9D"
> 
> regards
> Greg

That's look a default ssid in the router delivered by the telecom
company providing the router , Telia. I would not be surprised .
They also come with a default password , you are supposed to change both
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] LMS won't access \media folder

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Id it an USB drive ? I sugits mounting it via fstab instead of
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 2.00

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eradicatore wrote: 
> Hi,
> I have recently started having pandora give the error
> "PANDORA_Unknown error: 1034" on my 3 picoreplayer's.  Pandora works
> great on my other 10+ regular Squeezebox'es, and I logged in to check
> that pandora was set to "enabled" in mysqueezebox.com for these players.
> It was.  The 1034 error reads as "device disabled" here. 
> https://6xq.net/pandora-apidoc/json/errorcodes/  So I'm wondering if
> anyone else has Pandora issues with picoreplayer as well?  Thanks!
> 
> Justin

There is a genral pandora problem (see that other tread) not only for
picore.
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?107206-Pandora-down-through-MSB=879774#post879774

Btw picore now has a new 3.10 tread , this old 2.0 is not very active
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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ian_heys wrote: 
> I'm having a problem transfering a newly ripped album from my Windows 10
> PC to my PCP Network music folder. The folder appears in Windows
> Explorer and can be read but I've tried all manner of folder/file
> permission and passwords but can't paste the new folder into the PCP
> music folder. The Windows message is "You need permission to perform
> this action". Can anyone advise how to set this up?

Is it shared read only ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> Will pCP play these compressed files, or do they need to be re-formatted
> as .flac?

With the rigth helper app LMS can transcode for you , but I suggest you
make flac of them anyway . Flac is generally well supported by most apps
while ape is an oddity .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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jclctr wrote: 
> A wired connection stopped the stuttering. Should I try a new or
> different WiFi dongle?  I suppose they can go bad.

Well is it not an established fact now that PI3 does not really like
wifi in any form built in or otherwise ?

Outboard AP with a short ethernet cable to the PI ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> Yes, it is exactly the same.  The entries in Music Folder are the same
> as on my hdd.
> 
> Is there any way to edit the entries in My Music?  I do not need most of
> the categories.

Tags are essentiall for a working LMS experience :/

Otherwise views like artist, album artist, album ,genre , year, song ,
track no, composer etc becomes useless.
and no album cover pictures .
And the search functionality becomes crippled ?

The other menus in LMS are generated from the file tags .

There is a " guess tag " functionality in LMS that tries to figure this
by file and folder names only , it can be tweaked to some extent if your
folder structure is very consistent, but it can not replace tags .

I think there is a lot of useful info in the wiki and a whole subforum
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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sckramer wrote: 
> Hi Mnyb,
> 
> I ssh in and use this to check actual:  cat
> /proc/asound/card1/pcm0p/sub0/hw_params

Good ! Ofcourse proc




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

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I ended up with Linux Mint 18 LTS .

Its a stable LTS support not exactly bleeding edge . But not to ancient
.

All this SSL stuff sems not to work with degadesnold perl versions etc
.

Mint usually have very easy options to gdt media codecs .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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anadigi wrote: 
> Thanks Mnyb,
> However, how do I know it is playing the right sample rate?

I havent figured that out yet . I just trust the description on that .
But similar parameters works for my main stereo where i use a Digi+
there I have a display on the processor . so it does as advertised .
(there i also use the max sample rate parameter so these can work
together as digital out is oneway squeezelite does not know so you limit
to what the dac can handle )

There probably a log somewhere , but i don't know .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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anadigi wrote: 
> Hi,
> I am using the IQaudio+ and would like to setup the realtime upsampling
> to the max.  Can someone tell me what is the setting in Squeezelite?  
> Thanks!

the X option , this will give you asynchronous upsampling to max rate
without this option it's the max synchronous rate that fits the device ?
that’s how I read it ?

In PICorePlayers web-UI prese the more link . Its rigth there in the
description .

Dont mind my current settings I'm experimenting a bit .



Here is another link
http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/squeezelite.1.html


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> Not really.  I cannot get the RPi to connect to my wireless network,
> even though I am broadcasting the ssid.  The scan on the PCP webpage
> cannot find it.  
> 
> Is there an internal wireless card?  Might the problem be that it does
> not support 5G?

It does not support 5gHz try 2.4gHz band .

You have a dual band router ? can be neat to have diffrent ssid on the
two bands so you know where you are conected with all your stuff .

You should broadcast the SSID , hiding it is pointless it creates no
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> My intention is to connect the RPi via an optical cable to my sound
> processor, and access flac music files residing on my desktop computer
> using my wireless network to play through the system.

Fine, LMS server on the Desktop PI as player .

Fyi .
Running LMS on PI with an attached usb harddrive is more of a standalone
solution if one don’t want to have the computer on.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> IIRC, it was when I changed the audio setting to HIFiBerry digi+.  I was
> then asked if I wanted to reboot, and I clicked "yes."
> 
> How do I expand the filesystem?  I have gparted installed, and have used
> that for expanding partitions on my HDDs.

It's in Picores Web UI , it does it for you then it uses the whole SD
card .

?? I'm bit out of ideas ,whats the size of the card and is it good
quality relatively fast ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> After completing changes on the PCP page, it rebooted the RPi, and it is
> no longer connecting.  I shut the unit down and powered it on again, but
> it is still not working. 
> 
> So my joy was very short-lived.  Any suggestions?  Thanks!

Did you expand the file system before adding stuff ?

reboot as soon as it says, it fast don't save up a whole brunch of
settings and then reboot .
Then you don't know what broke it ?

I'm in the habit of backning up the whole SD card before a sensitive
change , like network parameters ? ( it's no fun locking yourself out
).

Any recollection of what you did change ? Especially when it broke ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> "Unable to connect" error message.
> 
> I can login to all of the other computers on my LAN using Putty or the
> terminal.


The web-UI should come up in any browser , you hardly need ssh login to
configure Picore , the setup is done true the web-UI in your browser
firefox works for me ? if the web-UI does not conect i'd gues something
is not rigth .

So conecting a monitor to see how it's boots or try to burn a fresh
image on the SD card ? (or try another SD card .

btw i have no problem ssh to my picore player , so it should just work




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> I am using the IP address given for the RPi by my router.  LMS shows no
> connected players.  As I wrote, I could not connect to the other Ubuntu
> 16.04 computers (and vice-versa) on my network until I installed
> openssh-server on all of them.
> 
> I just went through all this again, with the same results.  No player
> showing up in LMS, and "connection refused" error with Putty. Same
> result using the terminal:  ssh tc@ip address

Can you see the PicorePlayers web-UI ? aviable at the same IP number .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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merlinus wrote: 
> Hi.  I am new to the world of RPi and this forum, and look forward to
> much learning and sharing.  Thanks to everyone who makes this possible!
> 
> I just got an RPI 3B with HiFiBerry digi+ add-on board, and loaded
> piCorePlayer 3.10-audio.  It comes up with an IP address in my router,
> but I cannot access the board via SSH.  I get a "cannot connect" error
> message.  This occurs whether using Putty or a terminal from my Ubuntu
> 16.04 desktop computer.
> 
> I had to install openssh-server on all my computers in order to access
> them via ssh over the LAN, so perhaps therein lies the problem with the
> RPi.  Any assistance is greatly appreciated!

try with the rigth user ssh tc@"ip adress" ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Store files permanently on piCorePlayer

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Ok I was just thinking that the PI delivered with rather flimsy PSU . (
I have two )

Would fair better with a powered external drive they are usually 3,5"
drives .
Not so elegant and designed but functionally  better ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: Squeezelite - a small headless squeezeplay emulator for linux (alsa only)

[Mnyb]

Hello some n00b questions from me .

Preamble , been using squeezelite for years on my PC as a desktop player
.
Now i got two Raspi3 one with A IQaudioDAC+ and one with a
HifiBerryDigi+or pro or whatever :D (then one with transformer isolated
spdiff )

Now i realise first hand the greatness of the combined architechture of
for example PiCore SqueezeLite and LMS (I also trying Max2Play and plan
to try DietPi too ) yess .

NOW MY EXPERIMENTS ,

*Resamplig for my MeridianG68J preprocessor* , it's a bit old and
certainly does not have the latest and greatest internal up-sampler.
And certainly not any protection against intersample overshots .

Plan some attenuation to provide headroom and let SoX do the math to the
Meridians maximum rate of 96kHz . So that it never needs to use it's own
resampler.


Code:

-r 96000 -R vMX::3.5:



Code:

-r 96000 -R vLX::3.25:



Attenuation varies that was just some examples . This works no problem
here but.

*Questions:* what happens when I play a 24/96 track ? Does it just
attenuate or do nothing ?

Desired outcome, it should do nothing when getting a 24/96 track . The E
parameter does not seem to be the rigth tool . Or is squeezelite smart
enough to realize there is nothing to do here ?
Having some benign attenuation done to everything is not a real problem
, but I prefer a solution where 24/96 are just send to the Meridian as
they are .

*The IQaudio DAC for my headphone amp* and an extra set of active
speakers . the TI chip is documented for not having intersample
headroom


Code:

-R vMX::3.5: -V Digital



Code:

-R vM::3.5: -V Digital




Code:

-R vLX::3.5: -V Digital



Code:

-R vL::3.5: -V Digital


..
Etc again examples .

*I explain the volume control *. I also use this player for a pair of
active speakers . When using the headphone amp volume is fixed at 100%
otherwise attenuation would not make much sense .
It's when i use the speakers i use the volume .

-V Digital Here i ponder if should use the X option ? asynchronous
filter or not ? what makes sense for the IQ audio TI DAC or in general ?
is there a "best practice"

Volume control whats best practice here Squeezelite itself or the via
"-V Digital" Which then should use the TI DAC's own volume .


Btw is there a donation button for Squeezlite ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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Ah cool I've found the filter settings for my DAC they are in the PiCore
player web-UI already :) sorry for the noise .

The same chip as the HiffiBerry so you get :

http://archimago.blogspot.se/2016/10/measurements-hifiberry-dac-pro-pcm5122.html

Next thing to experiment with resampling in squeezelite with some
attenuation (-3,-6dB) as the TI DAC does not take care of intersample
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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sckramer wrote: 
> FYI, did a quick vid on this awhile ago... might help you (and shows how
> it ties together). The IQaudio is PCM51xx based also, so it's the same
> as the D+PRO
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blbcsKjLaOY

Nice Video thanks , where did you find all this information well
documented .
That was a pointer in the rigth direction ... Thankyou again.
I've now found a pdf manual at the IQaudio site that explains some of
this with pictures . Similar to your Video

PiCore Player says this

> 
> Set ALSA control for volume adjustment (-V) 
> 
> Use ALSA control for volume adjustment otherwise use software volume
> adjustment.
> 
> Select and use the appropiate name of the possible controls from the
> list below.
> 
> Note: Not supported with -U option.
> 
> You have the following audio cards/controls:
> 
> Card 0: ALSA - Control: PCM
> Card 1: IQaudIODAC - Control: DSP Program Analogue Analogue Playback
> Boost Auto Mute Auto Mute Mono Auto Mute Time Left Auto Mute Time Right
> Clock Missing Period Deemphasis Digital Max Overclock DAC Max Overclock
> DSP Max Overclock PLL Volume Ramp Down Emergency Rate Volume Ramp Down
> Emergency Step Volume Ramp Down Rate Volume Ramp Down Step Volume Ramp
> Up Rate Volume Ramp Up Step 

I see that "Digital" is a reported control of this card . Is this
possible to list in more human readable form :) a linux command some
documentation ??

This corresponds to what alsmixer shows me ,I have two kinds of analogue
volume a normal and some "boost" and a Digital volume  and some
possibilities to set step size in volume .
I can change filters "DSP" .

I see the same thing regarding Volume .

But as i understands it "Analogue" toggles -6,0 dB on and off "Analogue
Boost" toggles +0.80 dB Digital is a real volume control . I can see
that in the alsamixer ?

IQaudio claim that the card has hardware volume control .

Can I assume that choosing "Digital" means that i use the volume of the
IQ audio DAC ?

*Also in IQaudios pdf* i can that they explain analogue better it's
simply a switch between 1.0 vrms and 2.0 vmrms output . Same in *Texas
instruments pdf of the DAC* chip
They claim that both analogue and analogue boost shall be on and that
digital is the master volume ?
The "boost" is not on per default inPicore ? I'll trust their judgement
here .

Reagarding PiCore players advanced squeezelite/alsa options

So the Alsa volume field or various with -V gives me hardware volume .
Can i use the various settings field to gain access to other settings
like the DSP filters ? the DAC has 4 of them ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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Hi and thanks for the product . It works splendidly I think .

Just a functional question I've got the IQaudio DAC and picore 3.10

How does volume control work ? Is it Squeezelite , Alsa , the IQaudio
hardware ?

Picore closed these Squeezelite parameters for me.

Code:

/usr/local/bin/squeezelite -n "Loggia" -o hw:CARD=IQaudIODAC -a 80:4::1:




Do I have options ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Store files permanently on piCorePlayer

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If you have a lot of files I would suggest a powered USB hard drive .
Takes a bit more shelf space bu then you can load terabytes of files .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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Thanks for your efforts, donated :)  3.10 in standard edition is up and
running fine with an IQaudioDAC .

It's the Max2Play bundle bought from them . Used in my
secondary/headphone setup . Se pictures The Violelectric 90 HP amp is
also a buffer for the speakers.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Now playing plalists dissapears on machine reboot

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Ok to solve this I had to edit the startup script .

Even if LMS was last in init sequence tried the usual renamimg of rcx.d
links SXXlogitechmediaserver ,the vm boots so fast ( 3 sec) that the
cifs share is still not fully established .

So i introduced $remote_fs in the init script ? This is maybe not so
elegant suppose it goes away with some upgrade ?

snip/
### BEGIN INIT INFO
# Provides: logitechmediaserver
# Required-Start:   $all $remote_fs
# Required-Stop:$all
# Should-Start: $all $remote_fs
# Should-Stop:  $all
# Default-Start:2 3 4 5
# Default-Stop: 0 1 6
# Short-Description:Startup script for the Logitech Media Server
# Description:  Logitech Media Server powers the Squeezebox, Transporter
and SLIMP3 network music \
#   players and is the best software to stream your music 
to any
software MP3 \
#   player. It supports MP3, AAC, WMA, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis, 
WAV and more!
\
#   As of version 7.7 it also supports UPnP clients, 
serving pictures
and movies too!"
### END INIT INFO
#
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 3.10

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Why two versions ? Does something else brake with the audio patched
version ?

I'm about to install My first one soon  :)




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[SlimDevices: Unix] Now playing plalists dissapears on machine reboot

[Mnyb]

Hi some fumbling around have got me a new server :)

I have ticked the setting to maintian client playlists after restart .
This works fine if I stop and start LMS only , all my players keeps
their playlists everything is fine and dandy .

The client playlist gets created and exists in the prefs folder .

Problem .

If I restart the machine , then the now playing screen is empty on all
players.

IF I THEN RESTART LMS THEY ARE BACK AGAIN.

And the log is filled with cant find bla bla.

This points me to the old chestnut, LMS is starting up before the NAS
storage is fully mounted ??

As LMS can re-establish the playlist just fine after a restart .
And the client playlists are all there as before .

But it does not drop the whole library ? LMS is happy enough to not
rescan the library or any other antic , you’d expect if the drive is
missing ?

Is there some parameter I can set to delay the startup of LMS ?

I've fumbled with this on my old server regarding mip vs lms ? Is there
a nice and clean way to adjust this on Debian (it pobably is )

Logitech Media Server Version: 7.9.0 - 1483281996 @ Sun Jan 1 14:57:08
UTC 2017
Hostname: SqueezeVM
Server IP Address: 192.168.1.82
Server HTTP Port Number: 9000
Operating system: Debian - EN - utf8
Platform Architecture: x86_64-linux
Perl Version: 5.22.1 - x86_64-linux-gnu-thread-multi
Audio::Scan: 0.95
Database Version: DBD::SQLite 1.34_01 (sqlite 3.7.7.1)
Total Players Recognized: 4

Welcome to Linux Mint 18 Sarah (GNU/Linux 4.4.0-57-generic x86_64)

I'll be skiing the whole weekend so I will drop off later today :) so
it's no disaster


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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

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drmatt wrote: 
> You don't want much, huh? :)
> 
> I'm a fan of dpkg and apt-get myself, so I generally suggest a
> debian/Ubuntu variant. You will never get away from Perl version creep
> however. Ubuntu has a server version, and the repos are stuffed full of
> good stuff so there's little messing about required. I'd go that way.

Yes I'm familar with debian/ubunto i use a Linux mint desktop and
openmediavault NAS as a VM so i already have two debian based systems .

However my current LMS server is RHEL based .

Perl creep ? :D just want to aviod the "does not work at all" that
happens to many using very current distros that exceeds LMS perl
versions .

So is for example Debian 7 based systems OK with the LMS perl version ?
same for corresponding RHEL based system ?

So if you gentlemen suggests distros , any knowledge about the perl
version compatibility is very appreciated

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

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Jeff07971 wrote: 
> My vote would be CentOS 7
> 
> Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks
> 
> Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2
> 
> Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems
> 
> Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources
> 
> I use Webmin and Usermin for configs
> 
> Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure
> 
> Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to
> "permissive"
> 
> And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well
> 
> PS I can give you a script to get it all up and running if you'd like to
> try it

PS,what kind of ram and CPU etc are you giving your VM ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

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Jeff07971 wrote: 
> My vote would be CentOS 7
> 
> Mine runs LMS VERY reliably with only a few tweaks
> 
> Mine runs on ESXi 6.5 and have in the past ESXi 5.0 5.5 6.0 and 6.0U2
> 
> Not sure about multimedia support, I've never had any problems
> 
> Not that lightweight but not hungry on resources
> 
> I use Webmin and Usermin for configs
> 
> Firewalld works well and is relativly esy to configure
> 
> Only (slight) problem might be SELinux but can be disabled or set to
> "permissive"
> 
> And of course you have all the support of Redhat users as well
> 
> PS I can give you a script to get it all up and running if you'd like to
> try it

Thankyou , CentOS7 noted . I'm used to install the rpm package with my
currrent setup.




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[SlimDevices: Unix] Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS

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Choice of basic LInux OS for LMS ?

Any preference ?

I want to avoid:

Unsuported perl versions.

Unsolved dependencies that needs me to install exotic stuff thats not in
any repo  add symlinks compile stuff etc hunt down cpan and extra perl
thingys...
Bad support for popular plugins.
SSL problems , i had to solve that for my current OS .

Good to have :

Good media codec support .
Firewall in Linux that you actually understands how to configure .
Excellent package system .
Fast, reasonably lean on resources not bloated ,but not as bare bones
that nothing works .
Good forums and genral support.
Possibly a ligthweigth desktop unless i chose to have it headless as
usual.

If headless without GUI and only a web-UI for admin make it very capable
eb-UI that actually works and lets you fix stuff (the firewall tool in
my current distro does not really work )

Undecided if i want it to have a desktop or not . My current headless
Linux box is fast and lean and works nice with just 1gb of ram.
..But to adjust every mundane thing there is a web-UI or SSH
thats it (it's an obscure os, ClearOS )

But could be cool to learn how use remote desktops etc in linux. But a
simple linux server with a good web admin tool is also ok.

The thing will run in a VM on a NUC5i5RYH with ESXi its i5 with 32GB of
ram (intention is to learn something about running VM's with VM vare
ESXi)
The VM will be on an internal fast M2 256GB SSD the machine has another
2,5" 1TB SSD.
ON the same Host I will have a NAS running as a VM.

I assume you guys and gals now more than me and appreciate good
suggestions .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] "Media scan terminated unexpectedly"

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robinbowes wrote: 
> Here we go: http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=17832
> 
> R.

Animated gif ? Voted .

Was it a part of some art from an album ?

I try to avoid the video and image scan features , as this functionality
was for the DLNA/upnp function originally for the Logitech revue? Google
to box .

Image scan could be used for a slide show app for Touch and Radio .

LMS still scans album art if images and videos are unticked for that
folder .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] "Media scan terminated unexpectedly"

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There are settings in LMS to get more verbose log outputs , even to the
level of it logging every fole it scans .
There is a tab for log settings .

Bit you are rigth it should spit out the failing file or image with the
default log settings .

And yes it should not crash just log the file and continue. But thats an
old problem that we always had .
Bet there are bugs in buggzilla already . Please tell if you log or find
a suitable bug and i'll vote with you .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Starting LMS on Lubuntu - help please!

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daytripper wrote: 
> Works..! I hope it remains stable...
> 
> Thanks so much for all your help. A couple of final questions - 
> 1. Is the web front-end the only way to control the server on my
> dedicated machine..? The Windows version has an LMS manager access from
> the Taskbar in the bottom right...
> 2. Can I take iTunes playlists (on another machine) and copy them onto
> the Lubuntu LMS machine? Where do they live in iTunes..?
> 3. Can you recommend good power settings so I can shut the lid of the
> netbook and keep it running..?
> 
> But the thing is working!!! T H A N K   Y O U   a l l   v e r y   m u c
> h   f o r   y o u r   h e l p 
> 
> Apologies for my Linux stupidity and I really appreciate your patience!
> 
> Ironically, I have to shut it down as the fan on the netbook is a little
> noisy and we have a visitor in the spare room tonight...:rolleyes:

All needed settings are in the web-UI .

The win settings app only adds a few things like "run as a service"
that's irrelevant in Linux as it always runs a "service" daemon with its
own user ( you figure when file permissions gets you ) and always
autostart so you don't need tray to do that.
Tray icon in windows also contains a web browser link to loclahost aka
127.0.0.1 but just make our own bookmark.

And the win control panel also have "clear cache" but you can just go to
the cache folder and delete stuff yourself .

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Starting LMS on Lubuntu - help please!

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daytripper wrote: 
> thanks Michael - your live of code returns this at the base of the debug
> output:
> 
> > 
Code:

  >   > [16-11-28 19:49:29.7356] main::init (384) Starting Logitech Media 
Server (v7.9.0, 1480066117, Fri Nov 25 10:07:53 UTC 2016) perl 5.022002 - 
i686-linux-gnu-thread-multi-64int
  > Loaded module: [DBD::SQLite] ok!
  > [16-11-28 19:49:30.2766] Slim::Networking::UDP::init (39) FATAL: There is 
already another copy of the Logitech Media Server running on this machine. 
(Address already in use)
  > [16-11-28 19:49:30.2781] Log::Log4perl::Logger::and_die (868) Warning: 
FATAL: There is already another copy of the Logitech Media Server running on 
this machine. (Address already in use) at 
/usr/share/squeezeboxserver/lib/Log/Log4perl/Logger.pm line 900

> > 
> 
> I don't see any indication of the SB server already running - doesn't
> show up anywhere at all in the GUI...

It does not have a GUI , you find it in the web browser just type
http://127.0.0.1:9000 in any web browser on the lubuntu machine ,there
is no tray icon in Linux .

>From external machines substitute 127.0.0.1 with the actual IP of the
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Starting LMS on Lubuntu - help please!

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drmatt wrote: 
> Oops, I totally meant port 9090, not port 9000. My bad...

It's 9000 in most cases 9090 is cli port .

But why not use top or some other tool to figure if LMS is even running
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Starting LMS on Lubuntu - help please!

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mherger wrote: 
> > Yes I use rpm , I have red hat based distro atm , and I see several
> > others using it to ?
> 
> Are you using the officially unofficial 7.9 rpm build? Or the one some 
> community member provides?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

The oficial nightly




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mherger wrote: 
> > Odd! @Mherger is there a reason why DEB and RPM have different
> service
> > names?
> 
> I'm sure there is a reason. But I doubt it's a good one. Most likely 
> something like lack of knowledge or resources.
> 
> Is anyone still using the RPM at all?
> 
> -- 
> 
> Michael

Yes I use rpm , I have red hat based distro atm , and I see several
others using it to ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCorePlayer 3.02 tweaks

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Greg Erskine wrote: 
> Hi M-H;
> 
> Nice post. I think this was edwardthern's original intention, give it a
> go. It is simple to do, only takes a few minutes and there is no $$$
> cost.
> 
> I do think edwardthern was a little harshly done by in this thread and
> unfortunately that provoked a "reaction".
> 
> One thing I can't understand, if people find a tweak marginally improves
> the sound quality why don't they try doing the opposite and make it
> sound far worse. That would prove to me that something is happening. For
> example, lets assume reducing CPU usage from 1% to 0.5% improves sound
> quality, then conversely, increasing CPU usage from 1% to 50% should
> cause a major degradation in sound quality!
> 
> I do find commercial products based on voodoo immoral, maybe if people
> experimented with "free" voodoo they would be less likely to be conned?
> 
> regards
> Greg

Our friend Archimago tried just that in his blog a while ago, he loaded
some computer close to 100% while putting  out audio to a DAC or the
motherboards own audio chip . The DAC performed to spec until the system
become overwhelmed and you get buffering and breakups , no sliding scale
of subtle sound degradation depending on load . It worked until it
didn't.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCorePlayer 3.02 tweaks

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All this for sugesting that you should only focus your effort in
diffrences that actually exist ? wheter we can "hear things" is not
actually always relevent.
The human phsycke is actually very sugestible you can hear all sorts of
things all the time with sigthed testing .

If the systems electrical and acoustivcal output does not change , move
on to the next thing . Some relitively simple measurments can test that
, do a degrre thats >1000 times more sensitive than human hearing .

Btw i once was a hardcore belive everything audiophile for several
decades including fancy power cables audioqest expensive speaker cables
silly feets for the equipment et al. So i do know what this is , 10
years ago i would also have "heard" all the diffrences .
One day i discovered that the emperor was truly naked and not very
beutifull at all ;) ( i would prefer the queen) He looked very similar
to a bearded obese middle aged audiophile to me .

Note that is till have an aftermarket powersupply that once bougth for
my SB3 (see signature of my shoddy equipment ) that probably did
absolutely nothing...




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCorePlayer 3.02 tweaks

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In shorter words .

Perceptual bias is so strong that you really can't say anything by just
sighted listening test not you or me .

So a sighted test carries no information about if the sound actually
changed . Only that you thought it did which is not the same thing .

So measure and do an ABX test with the tweaks that measured differently
, you weed out 99% of the duds your tweaking effort will end quickly or
you find what really matters quickly .

Then the other thing .

If I do the the same sighted unverified test , if I then "hear"
something and compare to you ?
It's then my imagined apples to you imagined oranges ? What can be
decided from that it's pointless ?

For comedy in many tweaked treads people seems to agree , mostly because
OP said what result should be :D

To you credit you have not yourself attributed sonic characteristics to
most of your tweaks . Kudos .

These characteristics when people claims them are usually very analog
and and not something simple jitter and emi disturbances could do , you
need serious DSP to for example change the soundstage or alter the
treble response... frankly the bits can no longer be the same ;)
difrences must creep up to -60-70 dB to be possible hea in other words
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCorePlayer 3.02 tweaks

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edwardthern wrote: 
> Look at these crazy unsubstantiated, unproven, unscientific, tweaks used
> by Rune Audio...and thats just a small sample of their user sound
> profiles.
> 
> They must be crazyas a fox
> 
> # mod1
> if [ "$1" == "ACX" ]; then
> echo -n performance >
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
> ifconfig eth0 mtu 9000
> echo noop > /sys/block/mmcblk0/queue/scheduler
> echo 0 > /proc/sys/vm/swappiness
> echo 100 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_latency_ns
> echo 10 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_min_granularity_ns
> echo 25000 > /proc/sys/kernel/sched_wakeup_granularity_ns
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/hung_task_check_count
> echo 20 > /proc/sys/vm/stat_interval
> echo -1 >  /proc/sys/kernel/sched_rt_runtime_us
> echo 5 > /proc/sys/vm/dirty_background_ratio
> 
> 
> You guys had better run over to Rune and set them straight.

That's not a real argument :D audiophilia in general has been broken for
several decades , it once was a respectable hobby now turned to a cult ?
manufacturers are not immune they often willingly participate in the FUD
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCorePlayer 3.02 tweaks

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My sugestions about a rational testing method ? Was that negativity ?

You can sugest a completely of the chart thing to test , who knows
really .

But it is the choice of testing methods that matters most .

There is also this , if you make an extraordinary claim you better have
the corresponding extraordinary evidence.
If would just accept that iumping of building would kill me without a
peer reviewed paper :)

But for example differences between digital sources are non existing in
controlled tests ? At the moment .
( these digital sources of course playing the same flac file or CD )

In my own system i can change say that my Meridian DVD-A player my
Pioneer bluray or my saueezebox SB3 or my Squezeebox Touch probably
performs identical with 16/44.1 the A/B testing i did was not at the
highest standard ABX with severL people involved . But this was
annexpected result .

Ig ive found large diffrences aka a very unexpected result I have to
investigate much more before claiming fanstic results with my noodling ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] PiCorePlayer 3.02 tweaks

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Do some measurements see for example archimagos excellent blog I would
also recommend audidiffmaker to filter forth differences.

The key here is to filter out the first round of duds . If the
electrical output is unchanged the sound waves hitting your ear will be
exactly the same .

The remaining tweaks that did something did they improve the performance
measurable ? Or did you tweak it until it broke, I think this is very
common ,(see all geniuses making thier own transcoding settings for SoX
) . Different is very often interpreted as better . Closest to the
original source is always best , you can never know what you listen to
tomorrow.

Round 3 do ABX listening test on the one with positive results , which
where audible .
This is key , these differences is so small that the bias from "sighted"
tests is invalid i.e. By sighted I mean knowing anything about what A vs
B is . The idea here is can you tell a difference .

No no one buys the argument that "differences are so obvious to me that
ABX is not needed" that's is actually a sure sign that you are biased !
Modern digital sources do not produce huge differences in to any modern
DAC unless something is broken .

Now a subjective evaluation can take place what the remaining audible
tweaks that also improved the measured performance sounded like .

A random walk in OS and ALSA settings would be very futile and a waste
of everyone's time including your own time :)

Historically, there has been no really successful attempts  to prove
that any digital source conected to a decent DAC makes a real
difference. If the input signal is bitperfect and without really gross
jitter (several 1000 times more than sources usually have ) and equally
gross electrical disturbances conected trough the wire every source is
the same .

However with the rise of computer audio there is potential for things
going wrong , but then its obviously wrong .
The OS mixer and resampler in windows should probably be avoided and
some other things to . But thats why we have squeezeboxes.

So what can really be done except have sane settings in the audio system
?

And I suppose PIcore players is equally turn key in the respect that you
get bit perfect output in respect to the input file if you want and
don't need to worry to much




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network test

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gian wrote: 
> no, I am using the network test from the player, which reveals that
> there is a bandwidth issue on my LAN.
> 
> I am trying to understand why is it so, being a home LAN, though a bit
> more extended that a typical one.

I'm not sure that the network test tellls younthe truth ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Network test

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Hmm years ago i was informed that the network test plugin is not as
reliable anymore .

You can test with files with known bitrates for example a 16/44 flac is
abroximately 750k etc.




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 2.00

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ctbarker32 wrote: 
> Plenty of very high-end audiophile products use Tubes through out or as
> input stages for a solid state back end, etc. Rogue Audio make very well
> regarded products that feature tube buffers as input to a solid state
> design. 
> 
> Tubes are often thought to be more mellifluous due to their emphasis of
> even harmonics which some would call a warmer sound. Some would like
> this sound to tame the sterile nature of digital. I'm not promoting
> either view. I have built both solid state and tube based amps and each
> have their positives.
> 
> Many audiophiles use tubes to amplify 192k/24b DACs all the time. Look
> at Conrad Johnson, Audio Research, BAT, etc.
> 
> -CB

Yes , many may like the tube euphonics , but the THD and noise makes (
rather masks ) the finer points of da conversion moot , hence why it's a
bit anachronistic , like some steampunk inspired device .
It's a fun dyi thing :) enjoy , it's less fun when it's really expensive
high end brands usually claiming superiotory of tubes for no rational
reason and charges some serious money for it( they usually claims that
they are "better" how so in a world when electronics easily can be made
transparent to the human listener ? Better than artist delivered on disc
?)




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] What are u using to rip & Tag under *ux?

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I use puddletag in Linux for my tags .

SOmetimes Rubyripper for ripping . but actually i start a windows
partition to be able to use dBpoweramp for ripping




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] lms 7-9 scanning issue on debian

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epoch1970 wrote: 
> udev/systemd is automagically mounting the drive.
> You can, equally automagically, defeat that by adding a specific entry
> in fstab, preferably using UUID=x, and containing the options
> required for the foreign filesystems in question.
> For my part I never use VFAT or NTFS, so no idea as to mount options.

+1 check in a debian or Ubuntu other Linux forum/tutorial for advice .

Basic issue is that the automounted USB drive gets mounted for the
logged in user .

LMS is its own user and don’t have access .

By putting the USB drive in fstab just like any other HD gives you
control over mount options , I cant give solid advice whats best for
NTFS drives, but one mount option i would use is -nofail (in case the
drive is not connected )
There are tools for getting the UUID of a drive .
And in FSTAB you can specify a mount point in the file system where the
drive will be and it will always be in the same place/path all the time
.

I have an NTFS partition mounted , but probably not by "best practice"
:) in any way so i rather not share that fstab entry (similar can be
googled anywhere ) .

This is not a LMS problem ,just a function of how many linux systems
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] piCore Player 2.01 - DTS 5.1 pass-through via HDMI not working...

[Mnyb]

A very likely culprit can be volume or use of replaygain . The volume
can have exactly one value if you want bitperfect output 0dB unity
gain.

0dB is not this 85% in some cases with alsa or pulse




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 2.00

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Squeezed_Rotel wrote: 
> I use the alarm feature on my SB Booms. If I set an alarm for the Boom
> in LMS, the server wakes up about 10 minutes before the alarm is
> scheduled to go on, and the boom alarm sounds as scheduled. My pCP alarm
> works *but only* if LMS is running. If LMS server is sleeping, no alarm.
> Is there a trick or tweak on the pCP webui that can be applied? LMS
> autostart tweak? How can I wake the server if the alarm is set for a
> pCP? :confused:
> TIA

Does WOL work in general with this player ? The original squeezeboxes
has the feature to send WOL packets to the server in varius scenarios
not only before an alarm . Pressing "on" on a boom sends WOL touching
the screen on Touch does it etc "on" on the IR remote of sb3 ...

But it may be hard to test on a player without a GUI . If you use for
example iPeng on you iPad it's iPeng that sends the WOL not the player
.

Next issue Boom and Radio has a local memory of the alarm setting that
lasts 24 hours without contact with the server ( radio might remember
longer ) , these players can play a backup sound if there is no server
connection , so you get at least one alarm out .
This also helps boom to send its WOL command , it's knows that there is
a scheduled alarm .

Does pi core player know if there is an alarm or is it only the server
that knows this ?




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Announce: piCorePlayer 2.00

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I think DSD play in any shape or form needs audio scan 0.95 I don't
think LMS recognise the DSD file formats otherwise . So if you can't see
the files

I have no DoP capable DAC . I use the DSD plugin for transcoding to
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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Syncing 2 Pi's ?

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If the PI's behave identical , you might have to counter act the
relative time delays in the AVR software vs B .

There are some parameters in sync settings you use to trim with , but no
one can guarantee what result would be ?

If you have some PI layers move them over to your friend and tryout if
good enough sync can be done .




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Re: [SlimDevices: Unix] Logitech Media Server can see files but cannot index them?!

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I have everything music at 777 :) i have backupps ! and i sometimes
adjust the tags over the network .

I backup everything more secure .

A separate music directory with everything at 777 is not a disaster or
do you think ?




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