Re: Unable to load Preferences LC 9.6.9rc3 and Levure 9.0.5

2023-04-18 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
> the application…” msg. This fixed it. Thanks > > Mark > > >> On 14 Apr 2023, at 10:35 pm, Marty Knapp via use-livecode >> wrote: >> >> I don’t have an “M” chip Mac here to test at the moment but here’s something >> to try: >> >>

Re: Unable to load Preferences LC 9.6.9rc3 and Levure 9.0.5

2023-04-18 Thread Mark Smith via use-livecode
have an “M” chip Mac here to test at the moment but here’s something > to try: > > In the Levure framework open the helpers folder and then the preferences > folder > Modify the helper.yml file by deleting the section under externals so the > file just contains the fo

Re: Unable to load Preferences LC 9.6.9rc3 and Levure 9.0.5

2023-04-14 Thread Marty Knapp via use-livecode
I don’t have an “M” chip Mac here to test at the moment but here’s something to try: In the Levure framework open the helpers folder and then the preferences folder Modify the helper.yml file by deleting the section under externals so the file just contains the following externals: libraries

Re: Unable to load Preferences LC 9.6.9rc3 and Levure 9.0.5

2023-04-10 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2023-04-08 14:58, bob--- via use-livecode wrote: I'm wondering if anyone might be able to help me out. I’m trying to use LC 9.6.9rc3 with an app built with Levure. With LC 9.6.9rc2 I am able to open the app in the IDE with no issue. When I try to open the app with LC 9.6.9rc3 I get “An

Re: Unable to load Preferences LC 9.6.9rc3 and Levure 9.0.5

2023-04-08 Thread Marty Knapp via use-livecode
I use Levure to build apps too and discovered this issue when my standalones try to run natively on the Apple “M” chips. I’m guessing that LC 9.6.9rc3 (haven’t tried it yet) defaults to running natively rather than under Rosetta. For some reason when running natively it apparently thinks that

Unable to load Preferences LC 9.6.9rc3 and Levure 9.0.5

2023-04-08 Thread bob--- via use-livecode
I'm wondering if anyone might be able to help me out. I’m trying to use LC 9.6.9rc3 with an app built with Levure. With LC 9.6.9rc2 I am able to open the app in the IDE with no issue. When I try to open the app with LC 9.6.9rc3 I get “An error occurred while initializing the applic

Re: Levure Dataview: hiding rows

2021-07-01 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Thanks Bob - I’ll go ahead and do that. In the documentation for DataViews there is some mention of “hiding” and “HideRowControl”  - so I wanted to check that there is not a better way. For now I’ll keep the original data and then set the dvData of what I need to different filtered arrays. 📆   

Re: Levure Dataview: hiding rows

2021-07-01 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Delete the row data?? Bob S > On Jul 1, 2021, at 01:16 , David Bovill via use-livecode > wrote: > > I took a look at the code to try and work out if hiding rows is a thing / > supported - but find only a private handler. > > Trevor what is the recommended technique fir providing views of a

Re: Levure Dataview: hiding rows

2021-07-01 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
: > Im exploring how to hide a row in Levure Dataview. I can delete the row and > reset the dvData - but that seems overkill. On GitHub there is a mention of > HideRowControl? > > I’m running into the limits of the documentation for Dataview. Any ideas? > > 📆    Schedule a cal

Levure Dataview: hiding rows

2021-06-24 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Im exploring how to hide a row in Levure Dataview. I can delete the row and reset the dvData - but that seems overkill. On GitHub there is a mention of HideRowControl? I’m running into the limits of the documentation for Dataview. Any ideas? 📆    Schedule a call with me On 22 Jun 2021, 05:08

Re: Levure Dataview: adding a scrolling background

2021-06-21 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
ast resort.) > > All the best > > Sean > > > On Mon, 21 Jun 2021 at 20:33, David Bovill via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I’d like to add an image background to a Dataview, so that is scrolls > > alongside the rows.

Re: Levure Dataview: adding a scrolling background

2021-06-21 Thread Sean Cole (Pi) via use-livecode
Jun 2021 at 20:33, David Bovill via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I’d like to add an image background to a Dataview, so that is scrolls > alongside the rows. > > Any pointers? > > 📆Schedule a call with me > On 11 Jun 2021, 18:01

Levure Dataview: adding a scrolling background

2021-06-21 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
I’d like to add an image background to a Dataview, so that is scrolls alongside the rows. Any pointers? 📆    Schedule a call with me On 11 Jun 2021, 18:01 +0100, David Bovill , wrote: > So I got visual feedback from drag-and-drop using the Levure DataView > following instructi

Re: Levure Dataview drag-reordering

2021-06-11 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
So I got visual feedback from drag-and-drop using the Levure DataView following instructions at: • https://github.com/trevordevore/levurehelper-dataview I add the following code to the DataView: > quote_type > on dragStart >  set the dvDragImageRow of me to item 1 of the dvHilitedR

Re: Levure Dataview drag-reordering

2021-06-11 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
That's a good thing, yes? That means your Apple device is not phoning home. Bob S > On Jun 11, 2021, at 08:24 , Stephen Barncard via use-livecode > wrote: > > yeah, Apple still thinks I live in Sevastopol, Ukraine! > -- > Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA - > mixstream.org

Re: Levure Dataview drag-reordering

2021-06-11 Thread Stephen Barncard via use-livecode
l via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com>: > > > > Yeah sorry about the typo - sent from mobile. I meant Levure - as > Trevor is the main man with the drag stuff and having differenr styles for > rows is a must. > > ah, OK, I'll pass it over to Tr

Re: Levure Dataview drag-reordering

2021-06-11 Thread Klaus major-k via use-livecode
Hi David, > Am 11.06.2021 um 17:03 schrieb David Bovill via use-livecode > : > > Yeah sorry about the typo - sent from mobile. I meant Levure - as Trevor is > the main man with the drag stuff and having differenr styles for rows is a > must. ah, OK, I'll pass it over

Re: Levure Dataview drag-reordering

2021-06-11 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Yeah sorry about the typo - sent from mobile. I meant Levure -  as Trevor is the main man with the drag stuff and having differenr styles for rows is a must. NB on the typo front I have a distant memory that aeons ago when I first got an iPhone I said yes to the spelling “fir”.  Ever since then

Re: macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
You’re welcome Marty. Glad you like it. Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 11:46 AM Marty Knapp via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > You won’t regret it Bob, Levure is a great framework. A big thanks (again) > to Trevor. > > Marty > >

Re: macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Marty Knapp via use-livecode
You won’t regret it Bob, Levure is a great framework. A big thanks (again) to Trevor. Marty > On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > Brilliant. I really need to move to Levure. I'm going to have another go at > it. > > Bob S > &

Re: macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Brilliant. I really need to move to Levure. I'm going to have another go at it. Bob S > On Oct 9, 2019, at 09:35 , Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > Hi all, > > After reading the article by Matthias on notarization* I put together a > helper for Levur

macOS Notarization helper for Levure

2019-10-09 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi all, After reading the article by Matthias on notarization* I put together a helper for Levure that will notarize a DMG image when you package your Levure application. Here is the link: https://github.com/trevordevore/levurehelper-macos_notary To use it you will need to update to version

Re: [ANN]CRON - a library for Levure

2019-06-17 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Levurithans! I like it! Bob S > On Jun 12, 2019, at 13:38 , Mike Kerner via use-livecode > wrote: > > Calling all Levurithans and anyone who wants to break some code: ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this

[ANN]CRON - a library for Levure

2019-06-12 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Calling all Levurithans and anyone who wants to break some code: Mikey's CRON library is now up on Github. This version is intended for use with Levure projects. CRON allows you to schedule tasks for LC to execute. We use it to regularly update mobile devices, inventory spreadsheets, an

Re: Levure Dataview Question

2019-04-01 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 1:41 PM David Bovill via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Is there built in support for drag- reordering of rows? > There are some APIs for helping with drag reordering. They are not currently documented though. The following code will create a drag

Re: Levure Dataview Question

2019-03-31 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
a few experiments - but seeing that work on mobile for something > as visually complex as a data grid (or Levure dataview) I've no seen. > > My suspicion is that that sort of visual drag drop animated feedback is > best done in HTML. But with the steady progress in accelerated ren

Re: Levure Dataview Question

2019-03-30 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Yes would be good to know. I've seen demos of drag- reordering, and scripted a few experiments - but seeing that work on mobile for something as visually complex as a data grid (or Levure dataview) I've no seen. My suspicion is that that sort of visual drag drop animated feedback is be

Re: Levure Dataview Question

2019-03-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
WHOOPS! Dataview. Sorry I thought Datagrid. It's late. Bob S > On Mar 29, 2019, at 16:12 , Bob Sneidar via use-livecode > wrote: > > If there is I'd like to know. I created a couple arrows that sit to the left > of the datagrid. Any time you select a row, the grid sends a message to the >

Re: Levure Dataview Question

2019-03-29 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
If there is I'd like to know. I created a couple arrows that sit to the left of the datagrid. Any time you select a row, the grid sends a message to the group and moves the arror group adjacent to it. Obviously, clicking up or down relocates that row. You can just see why drag-drop reordering

Levure Dataview Question

2019-03-29 Thread David Bovill via use-livecode
Is there built in support for drag- reordering of rows? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-liv

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-05 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 11:28 AM Trevor DeVore wrote: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Trevor DeVore > wrote: > I've added another DataView helper named "DataView Database Cursor Helper" > and updated the demo app. This helper adds a `dvCursor` property to a > DataView along with a number of oth

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
l needs to add a new feature that will improve scrolling speed in any DG-like control. I don't know what the timeline is for that though. > (and who knows Levure might be adopted by LC to add as an optional way > of working) LiveCode already recommends it to development teams. See

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread JJS via use-livecode
scroll smoother than the DG2. Have a good weekend ! (and who knows Levure might be adopted by LC to add as an optional way of working) Op 4-1-2019 om 19:51 schreef Trevor DeVore via use-livecode: On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 12:12 PM JJS via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
have chosen to do that through making the code available on GitHub and using the MIT license. I also try to document them as best as I can given the time I have available. Everyone has full access to the source code and others can contribute to the source code. For example, three other people have

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread JJS via use-livecode
, support could be stopped anytime, and if you then depend on it... We already depend on LC. Like i like to give levure a try, but also hesitate, can i turn back to the "normal" way of building an app? Thanks. Op 4-1-2019 om 18:28 schreef Trevor DeVore via use-livecode: On Wed, Jan

Re: DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-04 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 10:55 PM Trevor DeVore wrote: > > Over the holiday break I took time to package up some UI controls I use in > my own projects and make them available as helpers for Levure apps*. The > controls are named "DataView" and "DataView Tree".

DataView and DataView Tree Levure Helpers

2019-01-02 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi folks, Over the holiday break I took time to package up some UI controls I use in my own projects and make them available as helpers for Levure apps*. The controls are named "DataView" and "DataView Tree". The DataView is a leaner, more efficient DataGrid Form. It allow

Sandbox - a Levure Helper for working with files in the macOS sandbox

2018-10-08 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi, I've posted a new Levure helper on GitHub called "sandbox". It adds support for working with file references across multiple app sessions in the macOS sandbox. It requires LiveCode 9 as it uses the Foreign Function Interface (aka FFI) to wrap Objective-C APIs. If you distr

Leveraging LCB's Foreign Function Interface in Levure

2018-10-03 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi all [sending again to the right list], I uploaded a screencast last night discussing how Levure is using LCB's Foreign Function Interface (FFI) that was introduced in LC9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TW5ArazTrc -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screenstep

App Updater Helper for Levure

2018-09-26 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi, I've been working on the App Updater helper for Levure. The goal is to make automatic updating of Levure applications really straightforward. The helper leverages Sparkle on macOS and WinSparkle on Windows (the two desktop platforms I develop for). I used the Foreign Function Interface

Re: Levure - flicker prior to displaying UI stack on iOS

2018-06-08 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:19 AM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Trevor, > > wonderful, it works! Thanks a lot for looking into it. > You’re welcome. I’ve added the change to the master branch. > Now I am at risk to get addicted t

Re: Levure - flicker prior to displaying UI stack on iOS

2018-06-08 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Hi Trevor, wonderful, it works! Thanks a lot for looking into it. Now I am at risk to get addicted to Levure though. Ralf > On 7. Jun 2018, at 23:02, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > Try changing line 507 (or thereabouts) in `levure.livecodescript` to the

Re: Levure - flicker prior to displaying UI stack on iOS

2018-06-07 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > Unfortunately I am observing an annoying screen flicker > during the startup sequence while the UI stack is opened > and the Levure standalone is closed. > The iOS spla

Re: Levure - flicker prior to displaying UI stack on iOS

2018-06-05 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 4:57 PM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > thanks a lot for offering your help. The test project > to demonstrate the issue is available at: > > https://spideroak.com/browse/share/soRabit/trevorSharing I’ve go the file Ralf. I’ll take a

Re: Levure - flicker prior to displaying UI stack on iOS

2018-06-05 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Hi Trevor, thanks a lot for offering your help. The test project to demonstrate the issue is available at: https://spideroak.com/browse/share/soRabit/trevorSharing Ralf > On 5. Jun 2018, at 21:15, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > Can you upload a test stack for me to look at? If

Re: Levure - flicker prior to displaying UI stack on iOS

2018-06-05 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 12:36 PM, Ralf Bitter via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Currently I am developing an iOS app for iPad using > Trevor DeVore’s awesome Levure framework. > I’m glad you like it. > Unfortunately I am observing an annoying screen fl

Levure - flicker prior to displaying UI stack on iOS

2018-06-05 Thread Ralf Bitter via use-livecode
Currently I am developing an iOS app for iPad using Trevor DeVore’s awesome Levure framework. Unfortunately I am observing an annoying screen flicker during the startup sequence while the UI stack is opened and the Levure standalone is closed. The iOS splash screen, as defined in settings, is

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > The only way I can see for that to be a bad thing is if it became the > new and ONLY way to develop in Livecode. So long as they are options, > I do not see what all the fuss is about. Amen, brother. Options are liberating, requirements are limiting. My only fuss is to mak

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The only way I can see for that to be a bad thing is if it became the new and ONLY way to develop in Livecode. So long as they are options, I do not see what all the fuss is about. Bob S > On Feb 22, 2018, at 13:38 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > Good rant. I had a similar

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Bob Sneidar wrote: > Richard wrote: >> Mike Kerner wrote: >>> The ST integration is one of the things that is really slick about >>> Levure. >> >> "ST"? >>... >> "Space Telescope"? "SuperTux"? "Starship Tr

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
show something a bit negative about me. > Why would it be a negative? If it works for your needs then that is great. You can get all of your work done in a single location. > (Rant-style observation: I see really that what the whole Levure thing is > doing is moving towards a more indu

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Integration for Starship Troppers is still in beta. Bob S > On Feb 22, 2018, at 09:09 , Richard Gaskin via use-livecode > wrote: > > "Space Telescope"? "SuperTux"? "Starship Trooper"? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Just read in Trevor’s reply to me - it’s Sublime Text. No, I’d never heard of it either. Myself, I have been happy editing with what comes with LC, which probably goes to show something a bit negative about me. (Rant-style observation: I see really that what the whole Levure thing is doing is

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
Thanks for your patience, Trevor. I will stop tyre-kicking now and decide whether or not my particular project work merits taking the Levure plunge! Graham > On 22 Feb 2018, at 15:56, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 7:25 AM, Graham Samuel via

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mike Kerner wrote: > The ST integration is one of the things that is really slick about > Levure. "ST"? A quick Google search brought up this page of 173 possible meanings for that acronym, so I feel I'm getting close. https://www.acronymfinder.com/ST.html "Sp

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
The ST integration is one of the things that is really slick about Levure. Atom is a more polished editor, but you can configure ST to send a packet to LC when you save an SOS. Levure projects open a socket to listen for that signal, and when it receives the signal, reloads the script you just

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
I had to change something. I don't particularly need Levure either for most of what it does, but I really like Sublime Text, and would like to use that if I could. Bob S > On Feb 21, 2018, at 16:27 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > It’s very late here, so a brief reply to

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
ject. Each object had its own applyVoltage > handler (method, in O-O parlance) for reacting to the circuit going live, > so the bulb lit up, the motor rotated etc. This is kind of the inverse of > the behavior idea - this is the same message being sent to multiple objects > rather than mu

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-22 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
the bulb lit up, the motor rotated etc. This is kind of the inverse of the behavior idea - this is the same message being sent to multiple objects rather than multiple objects using the same script. I wonder how a Levure-framed app would deal with such a structure. Perhaps it wouldn’t notice at

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
Me too. .Jerry > On Feb 21, 2018, at 9:20 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'm not a purist, I'd put the handler in the big green button. Especially if > it's short. There are no hard rules about this stuff. > > I suppose I'll have to dodge flying fruit now. ___

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
I'm not a purist, I'd put the handler in the big green button. Especially if it's short. There are no hard rules about this stuff. I suppose I'll have to dodge flying fruit now. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software | http://www.hype

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Graham, You don't need universal code to make this happen. What Trevor was talking about yesterday was that he likes using universal handlers in card scripts (or card behaviors in this case). For your example all you have to do is take the script of the big green button, make it a SOS, and assign

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
It’s very late here, so a brief reply to a brief reply. I know about ‘the target’. Believe it or not I also know about behaviours and can use them. But if I have a Big Green Button in my UI, I want a handler which does something if and only if the Big Green Button is clicked on. Obviously in my

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Jerry Jensen via use-livecode
The engine is what actually starts execution of the SOS - the engine knows who called. “me” is a keyword set up by the engine. In a behavior script it is the caller. Is this what you were wondering about or did I misunderstand? .Jerry > On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:58 AM, Graham Samuel via use-livecod

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
nd making them separate, especially since in many cases those >>> substacks are modules or libraries. That makes version control of those >>> submodules and libraries far simpler for me. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 6:43 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode <

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 2/21/18 12:58 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode wrote: But if there’s no code in the UI stack, how do the handlers in the SOS know what object has invoked them? A behavior acts as though every object with the assigned behavior has that script copied into itself. That means that "me" alway

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
The target. Bob S > On Feb 21, 2018, at 10:58 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > But if there’s no code in the UI stack, how do the handlers in the SOS know > what object has invoked them? ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lis

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
"me" in a behavior script is the calling object. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/use-livecode

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
out window which would be organized in the following file system structure in Levure: app/ ui/ about/ about.livecode behaviors/ card.livecodescript Now assume that the about.livecode stack file has a field that shows the version information and a button named “Acknowledgeme

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
; use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode < > >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> > >>> I’m following the Levure discussion and of course Trevor's > prono

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-21 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
3 PM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >>> I’m following the Levure discussion and of course Trevor&#

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
AFA the password protection goes, the traditional stack is only required when you _distribute_ the app. You do not need to store it that way. When you build a Levure app, it automatically creates a binary stack, installs the code, and password protects it. You get the best of both worlds: On

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
. Also, objects whose code is unique and never changes would not benefit from a versioning system or as a behavior. It's probably simpler just to code the object. My 2¢ Bob S > On Feb 20, 2018, at 15:15 , Graham Samuel via use-livecode > wrote: > > I’m following the Levure

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
t; On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > I’m following the Levure discussion and of course Trevor's pronouncements > > with great interest. One thing strikes me - is there really a universally

Re: A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-20 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 5:15 PM, Graham Samuel via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > I’m following the Levure discussion and of course Trevor's pronouncements > with great interest. One thing strikes me - is there really a universally > understood mea

A little Levure-oriented question

2018-02-20 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
I’m following the Levure discussion and of course Trevor's pronouncements with great interest. One thing strikes me - is there really a universally understood meaning to the term “UI stack”? I do understand the concept of separating the UI from the logic of an app, but any UI must co

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Well since you put it THAT way... ;-P I will offer this advice, and maybe it's not really needed, but I keep all the files necessary for a project in a single folder for that project, much like Levure does. For the purposes of cutting over, it may help to make a duplicate of your projec

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
the bigger > issues with Navigator (scriptifying stacks and chained behaviors). That > seems to be the biggest barrier to getting moved for me. Remember that you don’t have to scriptify anything in order to move a project over to Levure. Scriptifying stacks is only necessary in order to p

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Richard Gaskin via use-livecode
Mike Kerner wrote: > I'm not sure how much work it's going to be to rewrite anything, > though (which is why I'm curious to hear what others think before > I decide to move something big and get stuck). Levure appears to offer a very good framework. The LC IDE offer

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I'm interested in hearing more about other people who are thinking about moving existing projects over. I've moved several small ones over (and built a couple from scratch), and have been thinking about moving my bigger ones. I'm not sure how much work it's going to be to rewrite anything, though

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
He has some youtube videos, which after watching I understood the process well enough to know that it would be a fairly major rewrite of my projects to incorporate. It looks really cool, and I keep telling myself I'm going to do this soon. Bob S > On Feb 20, 2018, at 04:46 , Graham Samuel vi

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I wouldn't give up on it. Levure is a really important development in the LC universe, and one that is worth integrating into your work in the medium term, but it is definitely a more advanced tool, like carbon frames and high-pressure tires. On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 7:46 AM, Graham Samue

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-20 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
, although in the past I was happy with any amount of technical tweaking. I will go around the houses once again to try to do app updating simply from within LC scripts. I do have a fair notion about what do do. I don’t know what I’ll do about Levure in the future. Perhaps I should just admit

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
I wouldn't do it if you only have 3 days. I'd spend the effort on other parts of your project instead. It will take longer than 3 days to get yourself into the Levure groove, IMHO. It's well worth it, but you can't just jump in and be off and going. On Mon, Feb 19, 201

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
I understand the problem. It looks as if I might have a short window of around 3 days where I could see if I could get Levure to work for me. If (and it is only an if) I manage this, I will try to write it up. Graham > On 19 Feb 2018, at 16:45, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode >

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
ode < > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:53 AM Mike Kerner via use-livecode < > > > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > > > > > @Trevor > > > > That would b

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
od advice to add to the wiki as a "trying out and > > > transitioning to Levure" item > > > > > > I agree. Somebody should write that up and submit a PR :-) > > > > — > > Trevor DeVore > > > > > > > __

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
via use-livecode < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > >> On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:53 AM Mike Kerner via use-livecode < >> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: >> >> > @Trevor >> > That would be good advice to add to the wiki as a "

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
e < > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > > > @Trevor > > That would be good advice to add to the wiki as a "trying out and > > transitioning to Levure" item > > > I agree. Somebody should write that up and submit a PR :-) > > — > Trevor D

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 8:53 AM Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > @Trevor > That would be good advice to add to the wiki as a "trying out and > transitioning to Levure" item I agree. Somebody should write that up and submit

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
@Trevor That would be good advice to add to the wiki as a "trying out and transitioning to Levure" item On Mon, Feb 19, 2018 at 9:09 AM, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Hi Graham, > > 1) You do not need to scriptify (move cod

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi Graham, 1) You do not need to scriptify (move code into script only stacks) your stacks to use them in Levure. Levure supports an organizational structure (the `ui` folder in Levure) which makes it easy to organize binary stacks that use script only stacks as behaviors. 2) You are not

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-19 Thread Graham Samuel via use-livecode
I have not tried to look at Levure until now, but since I am in difficulties trying to create a user-oriented update system (the kind that professionals use Sparkle for on Mac, and other techniques on other platforms), I have some hopes (from previous emails from Trevor) that Levure might help

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-15 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 4:30 PM Mike Kerner via use-livecode < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: > Check the wiki instead of the readme.md. The documentation is extensive. > https://github.com/trevordevore/levure/wiki The wiki is definitely where you want to end up. The readme

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-15 Thread Mike Kerner via use-livecode
Check the wiki instead of the readme.md. The documentation is extensive. https://github.com/trevordevore/levure/wiki ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-15 Thread Bob Sneidar via use-livecode
Levure Framework is a method for creating LC applications that leverage Script Only stacks for the code so that versioning and distribution systems like GitHub can be used in the development process. (Trevor will correct me if I am wrong). Even if such a system is not used, multiuser

Re: Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-15 Thread Pi Digital via use-livecode
Hi Trevor Your readme.md and your posts here could do with a description of what Levure is and does. Just use the first paragraph from your wiki. All the best Sean Cole Pi Digital > On 14 Feb 2018, at 16:38, Trevor DeVore via use-livecode > wrote: > > Howdy folks, > >

Levure update 0.9.5

2018-02-14 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Howdy folks, Version 0.9.5 of the Levure framework is now available. https://github.com/trevordevore/levure/releases -- Trevor DeVore ScreenSteps www.screensteps.com ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to

Levure update: Customizing builds

2017-08-20 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi list, I made a screencast introducing a new features I've been working on for the Levure packager. Applications that are delivered to different target groups may have different distribution requirements. On macOS a common example is an application that is distributed through the devel

Levure update: Customizing builds

2017-08-20 Thread Trevor DeVore via use-livecode
Hi list, I made a screencast introducing a new features I've been working on for the Levure packager. Applications that are delivered to different target groups may have different distribution requirements. On macOS a common example is an application that is distributed through the devel

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