Updated app on the iOS store

2014-04-03 Thread Gerry Orkin
Comrades

An old app I've had on the iOS app store for a couple of years was just updated 
for iOS 7. Check it out :) :

https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/the-george-hrapp/id447729252?mt=8

Cheers

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Re: Formatted text in a field.

2014-04-03 Thread jameshale
Yes Peter is right.
If all you are looking to do is display the two pages then this might be the
go.

If you place a field f1 on a page and set it up the way you want (size,
text characteristics etc) and then make two copies, field fa and field
fb.
Then make f1 invisible.

make a button to load the pages like:

--intialize script--

global pn
global pr
on mouseUp
   set the htmltext of field f1 to YOUR_STYLED_TEXT_VARIABLE
   put 1 into pn
   put the pageranges of field f1 into pr
   put line pn of pr into pr1
   put line pn+1 of pr into pr2
   set the htmltext of  field fa to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr1)
to (item 2 of pr1) of  field f1
   set the htmltext of  field fb to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr2)
to (item 2 of pr2) of  field f1
   add 2 to pn
end mouseUp

---end initialise---

Then a next page button script is simply...

---next page---
global pn
global pr
on mouseUp
   put the pageranges of field f1 into pr
   put line pn of pr into pr1
   put line pn+1 of pr into pr2
   set the htmltext of  field fa to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr1)
to (item 2 of pr1) of  field f1
   set the htmltext of  field fb to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr2)
to (item 2 of pr2) of  field f1
   add 2 to pn
end mouseUp
---end next page---

Works a charm.

It just depends on what your intention is.
If this is only for display or printing (the inspiration for the property)
then this is the neatest way to go.
But if you want greater user interaction, then maybe not.

In my application of this idea I am using the first method I mentioned
(group scroll). I want my users to be able to select text over more than one
page and to view what may be just overleaf (say at the end of page 2 and the
beginning of page 3) without having to jump back and forth. 

James



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transparent “multiline” UITextField

2014-04-03 Thread Scott Morrow
I’m trying to make a transparent “multiline” UITextField in iOS.  
Unfortunately, it remains opaque both in the simulator and on an actual device. 
 If I switch the style of the UITextField to “input” then it becomes 
transparent.  I’m doing something along the lines of:

mobileControlCreate multiline, pFieldName
mobileControlSet pFieldName, rect, tRect
mobileControlSet pFieldName, opaque, false
mobileControlSet pFieldName, visible, “true

I’m suspicious that it may be operator error since I can’t get it working under 
the last several previous LC versions and I didn’t notice a bug report. 
Suggestions?
(tested with LC 6.1.3,  6.5.2,  6.6, 6.7dp1 and 6.6.1rc1 Commercial)

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Re: Sorting issue in a datagrid

2014-04-03 Thread André Bisseret

Le 1 avr. 2014 à 10:45, Dave Kilroy a écrit :

 Titre seems fine to me - I'm starting to grasp at straws here...
 
 If your dg sort fails after row 8, what data is in row 9? Could there be an
 invisible character that is causing the problem? Have at look at the text in
 BBEdit or similar?

Dave,

You were right ! 

Zryip TheSlug had a look at my datagrid, and saw that there were invisible 
characters after some of the phrases to be sorted( NULL character : ascii 0).
Seems that such a character  don't disturb the sort process in a field (but in 
a data grit it does).

So my problem is solve ;-)) (if charToNum(last char of line li = 0 then delete 
last char...)

Thank you much

André




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Re: Firels as containers

2014-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi,

Indeed, the destroyStack property being set to false was the reason why 
the stack appeared to be saved while it wasn't.


Also, because the global variable gRevStackStatus[stackName] isn't 
updated if a script changes the value of the field, the Save prompt 
wasn't triggered when Muaadh chose Exit from the File menu.


While this is a little confusing if you only use the IDE and usually 
don't make standalones, I don't think this is a big issue, because the 
project would eventually run as a standalone and would need its own 
saving routines.


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On 4/2/2014 19:38, J. Landman Gay wrote:

On 4/2/14, 4:44 AM, Muaadh Salih wrote:

What I can not undrstand is why it DOES work when :
1- save the stack scripte
2- close
3- open stack (from file menu without quiting LC )

  while it DOES NOT  ( always goes to card one) when:
1- Save the stack scripte
2- Cose
3- Quit LC
4-Double click on stack  stack (from file menu without quiting live
code )


The destroystack property of the stack is probably set to false, which
is LiveCode's default setting. That means when the stack closes it is
kept in RAM. When you re-open it, it will open in its previous state.

When you quit LiveCode and re-open the stack, it opens in the state it
was last saved in. It sounds like the stack is not saved to disk before
you quit LiveCode.

When you open the stack after launching LiveCode, what is in field
aaa? Is it the correct card number?



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Re: Formatted text in a field.

2014-04-03 Thread Michael Doub
Thank you!   Using the pageranges is pretty clever.

So clearly the engine knows how to do these calculations, so I have to believe 
that  all of the properties must be available to us to do the same calculation. 
 The one that I think I am not understanding correctly is the property for the 
number of pixels in the visible part of the field.   I thought that would have 
been the  height of a field - boarder - margin.

Thanks again,
Mike


On Apr 3, 2014, at 2:06 AM, jameshale ja...@thehales.id.au wrote:

 Yes Peter is right.
 If all you are looking to do is display the two pages then this might be the
 go.
 
 If you place a field f1 on a page and set it up the way you want (size,
 text characteristics etc) and then make two copies, field fa and field
 fb.
 Then make f1 invisible.
 
 make a button to load the pages like:
 
 --intialize script--
 
 global pn
 global pr
 on mouseUp
   set the htmltext of field f1 to YOUR_STYLED_TEXT_VARIABLE
   put 1 into pn
   put the pageranges of field f1 into pr
   put line pn of pr into pr1
   put line pn+1 of pr into pr2
   set the htmltext of  field fa to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr1)
 to (item 2 of pr1) of  field f1
   set the htmltext of  field fb to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr2)
 to (item 2 of pr2) of  field f1
   add 2 to pn
 end mouseUp
 
 ---end initialise---
 
 Then a next page button script is simply...
 
 ---next page---
 global pn
 global pr
 on mouseUp
   put the pageranges of field f1 into pr
   put line pn of pr into pr1
   put line pn+1 of pr into pr2
   set the htmltext of  field fa to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr1)
 to (item 2 of pr1) of  field f1
   set the htmltext of  field fb to the htmltext of char (item 1 of pr2)
 to (item 2 of pr2) of  field f1
   add 2 to pn
 end mouseUp
 ---end next page---
 
 Works a charm.
 
 It just depends on what your intention is.
 If this is only for display or printing (the inspiration for the property)
 then this is the neatest way to go.
 But if you want greater user interaction, then maybe not.
 
 In my application of this idea I am using the first method I mentioned
 (group scroll). I want my users to be able to select text over more than one
 page and to view what may be just overleaf (say at the end of page 2 and the
 beginning of page 3) without having to jump back and forth. 
 
 James
 
 
 
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Re: Updated app on the iOS store

2014-04-03 Thread Earthednet-wp
Gary,
I'm on an iPad 2 with iOS 7. I get the opening screen and clock and top left 
menu, but it is frozen there. Nothing I touch makes anything happen.
Bill

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http://es.earthednet.org

 On Apr 2, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Gerry Orkin gerry.or...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Comrades
 
 An old app I've had on the iOS app store for a couple of years was just 
 updated for iOS 7. Check it out :) :
 
 https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/the-george-hrapp/id447729252?mt=8
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: occasional runaway control - anyone else seeing this?

2014-04-03 Thread Dave Kilroy
What a great mailing list :)

Just to report back that following on from Mark's suggestion I've tried
again but this time with messages suppressed, and so far I've seen no
runaways - thanks everyone!


Mark Schonewille-3 wrote
 Also, if you're using rect, top, left, bottom, right and other location 
 properties in your script, these properties may change, triggering a 
 resizing handler again, which eventually makes the control walk. 





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Re: transparent “multiline” UITextField

2014-04-03 Thread Devin Asay

On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com
 wrote:

 I’m trying to make a transparent “multiline” UITextField in iOS.  
 Unfortunately, it remains opaque both in the simulator and on an actual 
 device.  If I switch the style of the UITextField to “input” then it becomes 
 transparent.  I’m doing something along the lines of:
 
 mobileControlCreate multiline, pFieldName
 mobileControlSet pFieldName, rect, tRect
 mobileControlSet pFieldName, opaque, false
 mobileControlSet pFieldName, visible, “true
 
 I’m suspicious that it may be operator error since I can’t get it working 
 under the last several previous LC versions and I didn’t notice a bug report. 
 Suggestions?
 (tested with LC 6.1.3,  6.5.2,  6.6, 6.7dp1 and 6.6.1rc1 Commercial)

Scott,

I had puzzled over this before, too. It turns out, a little confusingly, that 
you have to set the alpha channel on the backgroundColor rather than the opaque 
property:

  mobileControlSet pFieldName, backgroundColor, 255,255,255,0
  mobileControlSet pFieldName, opaque, false

I tried it with the opaque property set to both true and false; it didn't seem 
to make any difference. In fact, it worked fine without setting the opaque 
property.

The old iOS release notes (and the current dictionary entry for 
mobileControlSet) give a confusing description of the opaque property of mobile 
native controls:

Set to false if the control should be rendered with transparency. In 
particular, set this control to true if you set a backgroundColor that is not 
fully opaque.

Months ago I had printed out the release notes for closer study. Next to that 
paragraph I penciled in the comment ?. Indeed.

Can anyone explain what that means?

Regards,

Devin


 

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Office of Digital Humanities
Brigham Young University


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Re: Formatted text in a field.

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 7:37 AM, Michael Doub wrote:

So clearly the engine knows how to do these calculations, so I have
to believe that  all of the properties must be available to us to do
the same calculation.  The one that I think I am not understanding
correctly is the property for the number of pixels in the visible
part of the field.   I thought that would have been the  height of a
field - boarder - margin.


I'd be tempted to try letting the engine do it and use only a single 
field. Just turn off the scrollbars (make the field a regular 
non-scrolling field.) You can still set the scroll of the field whether 
the scrollbars are there or not. On each page turn the script could


set the scroll of fld 1 to (the effective textheight of fld 1 )* 12 + 
the scroll of fld 1


If fixedLineHeight is true you will already know the number of lines 
displayed. In my example, there are 12 visible lines (including wrap.)


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Re: New browser

2014-04-03 Thread Ralf Bitter

Hi Jacqueline,

in case you mean the ability to call a LiveCode
handler from within the browser using the new
revBrowserAddJavaScriptHandler command and
not the other way round (like using revBrowserExecuteScript)
my finding is that this works as expected.

As an aside I noticed that on Mac the performance
of JavaScript animations, which are pretty smooth
using the current revBrowser external, is extremely bad.
Hope this will change.

Apart from that I am really happy with
the move to a modern browser component.

Ralf



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 Has anyone tried the JavaScript interaction with the new browser yet? Someone 
 has asked me if it works.
 
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App code signing for outside Mac App Store

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay
I need to code sign a Mac app for distribution outside the Mac App 
Store. If I have a Developer ID Application Certificate, can I just use 
that to build the standalone and it will work? Or do I need to 
post-process the standalone in some way?


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Re: New browser

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 12:22 PM, Ralf Bitter wrote:

in case you mean the ability to call a LiveCode
handler from within the browser using the new
revBrowserAddJavaScriptHandler command and
not the other way round (like using revBrowserExecuteScript)
my finding is that this works as expected.


Thanks Ralf. That's what I needed.

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Problem with building standalone

2014-04-03 Thread larry
Approximately 20-40% of the time when I go to build a standalone, the LC IDE 
just quits - without building.  I have to restart LC and try again.  Usually, 
this is what happens:  I again ask to build the standalone.  LC asks if I want 
to save my stack, even though I had just saved it before attempting to build 
the standalone.  If I say don't save then LC usually just quits again.  If I 
save it again, then LC usually (but not always) will go ahead and build the 
standalone.

I'm using Community 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP Service Pack 3

Thanks for any advice!
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Re: App code signing for outside Mac App Store

2014-04-03 Thread Marty Knapp
You will need to post-process or implement a routine when the standalone 
builds. You might check out Trevor's GLX Application Packager - it has 
the ability to sign apps, though I'm not sure where things are at with 
Mavericks as there were some changes. I've been using App Wrapper by 
Ohana Software (http://www.ohanaware.com) on Mavericks with success. 
Please note that I don't have any apps in the app store so can't attest 
to App Wrappers abilities there. I just code sign for distribution on my 
own.


Marty Knapp
I need to code sign a Mac app for distribution outside the Mac App 
Store. If I have a Developer ID Application Certificate, can I just 
use that to build the standalone and it will work? Or do I need to 
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Re: App code signing for outside Mac App Store

2014-04-03 Thread Trevor DeVore
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 2:00 PM, Marty Knapp martyknapps...@gmail.comwrote:

 You will need to post-process or implement a routine when the standalone
 builds. You might check out Trevor's GLX Application Packager - it has the
 ability to sign apps, though I'm not sure where things are at with
 Mavericks as there were some changes.


I posted an updated GLX App Packager to the google group that has support
for Mavericks. I have successfully signed two different of apps on
Mavericks using it.

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Re: Updated app on the iOS store

2014-04-03 Thread Gerry Orkin
Bill, thanks. Amazing that it worked for me on 2 devices, and for Apple, but 
some devices seem to be having problems with the database!

I've uploaded a fix (hopefully). It'll be on the Store whenever Apple decides :)

Gerry


On 4 Apr 2014, at 12:50 am, Earthednet-wp proth...@earthednet.org wrote:

 I'm on an iPad 2 with iOS 7. I get the opening screen and clock and top left 
 menu, but it is frozen there. Nothing I touch makes anything happen.
 Bill

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please help!

2014-04-03 Thread larry
I've tried 20 different ways of syntax for a filter and still cannot make it 
work.

I'm trying to filter the lines of a field that contains a specific string, say 
d14 somewhere within the field.

Here is the latest that did NOT work:

on mouseUp

filter field column3 with * d14 *

end mouseUp
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Re: App code signing for outside Mac App Store

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 1:00 PM, Marty Knapp wrote:

You will need to post-process or implement a routine when the standalone
builds. You might check out Trevor's GLX Application Packager - it has
the ability to sign apps, though I'm not sure where things are at with
Mavericks as there were some changes. I've been using App Wrapper by
Ohana Software (http://www.ohanaware.com) on Mavericks with success.
Please note that I don't have any apps in the app store so can't attest
to App Wrappers abilities there. I just code sign for distribution on my
own.


Thanks. We're building for third-party distribution too so that's all I 
need. I've used AppWrapper before, I didn't know they'd now fixed it for 
Mavericks. That's good news.


Also, when building in LiveCode, do you build with the Developer ID 
certificate? And if so, why do we need to post-process?


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Re: please help!

2014-04-03 Thread Klaus major-k
Hi Larry,

Am 03.04.2014 um 21:26 schrieb la...@significantplanet.org:

 I've tried 20 different ways of syntax for a filter and still cannot make it 
 work.
 
 I'm trying to filter the lines of a field that contains a specific string, 
 say d14 somewhere within the field.
 
 Here is the latest that did NOT work:
 
 on mouseUp
 ##filter field column3 with * d14 *

filter field column3 with *d14*

 end mouseUp

:-)


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Re: please help!

2014-04-03 Thread Mark Schonewille

Hi Larry,

First of all, when you write it didn't work, you should really write 
exactly why it didn't work and what you got instead of the expected 
result. E.g. did nothing happen, did you get an error message --if you 
got an error message, then what was the exact text of the error 
message--, or did the script run and was the result different from what 
you wanted?


The follow should work, i.e. it should remove all lines except those 
containing the string d14:


on mouseUp
  filter fld Column3 with *d14*
end mouseUp

I'm assuming that this script is in a button and that you click on the 
button to run the script.


If this doesn't help, can you give a more specific description of the 
problem?


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On 4/3/2014 21:26, la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

I've tried 20 different ways of syntax for a filter and still cannot make it 
work.

I'm trying to filter the lines of a field that contains a specific string, say 
d14 somewhere within the field.

Here is the latest that did NOT work:

on mouseUp

filter field column3 with * d14 *

end mouseUp
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Re: please help!

2014-04-03 Thread dunbarx
Hi.


filter and matchtext take a bit of practice. It seems you have more stuff 
in your filterPattern than you need, but I could be mistaken, As a test, make a 
field with the following in it:
aa
bb
cc
dd


Now in a button:



on mouseUp
   get fld 1
   filter it without bb --also try filter with...
end mouseUp



Does this do what you intended?


Craig Newman


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From: larry la...@significantplanet.org
To: use-livecode use-livecode@lists.runrev.com
Sent: Thu, Apr 3, 2014 3:27 pm
Subject: please help!


I've tried 20 different ways of syntax for a filter and still cannot make it 
work.

I'm trying to filter the lines of a field that contains a specific string, say 
d14 somewhere within the field.

Here is the latest that did NOT work:

on mouseUp

filter field column3 with * d14 *

end mouseUp
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Re: App code signing for outside Mac App Store

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 1:55 PM, Trevor DeVore wrote:


I posted an updated GLX App Packager to the google group that has support
for Mavericks. I have successfully signed two different of apps on
Mavericks using it.



Excellent, thank you. I'm still not sure what certificate to use when 
building the standalone, or if it matters.


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Re: App code signing for outside Mac App Store

2014-04-03 Thread Marty Knapp
Yes, just your Developer ID certificate. The GLX Application Packager 
can make this a part of the build process, so you could maybe just pull 
out the code that's doing that. I guess it's now updated to work with 
Mavericks. As it previously didn't, I've been using App Wrapper. In both 
cases you need to input your Developer ID.


Marty K

You will need to post-process or implement a routine when the standalone
builds. You might check out Trevor's GLX Application Packager - it has
the ability to sign apps, though I'm not sure where things are at with
Mavericks as there were some changes. I've been using App Wrapper by
Ohana Software (http://www.ohanaware.com) on Mavericks with success.
Please note that I don't have any apps in the app store so can't attest
to App Wrappers abilities there. I just code sign for distribution on my
own.


Thanks. We're building for third-party distribution too so that's all 
I need. I've used AppWrapper before, I didn't know they'd now fixed it 
for Mavericks. That's good news.


Also, when building in LiveCode, do you build with the Developer ID 
certificate? And if so, why do we need to post-process?





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Re: App code signing for outside Mac App Store

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 2:55 PM, Marty Knapp wrote:

Yes, just your Developer ID certificate. The GLX Application Packager
can make this a part of the build process, so you could maybe just pull
out the code that's doing that. I guess it's now updated to work with
Mavericks. As it previously didn't, I've been using App Wrapper. In both
cases you need to input your Developer ID.


Okay, that helps. Thanks.

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Re: Layout tools for LiveCode

2014-04-03 Thread Brahmanathswami

Oh my Mangoes!

Sheesh, after all these years I did not know this? ha Thank you!

hhhm me thinks a feature request is in order... a new IDE prop show 
grid  as a default, locked layer 1 object behind everything else, that 
still functions the way the invisible one does.



J. Landman Gay wrote:




It's built-in but invisible. In preferences, go to the Appearance pane 
and set the grid spacing to whatever you want. In the View menu, be 
sure Grid is selected. After that, dragging an object will snap it to 
the nearest gridline. 


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Re: transparent “multiline” UITextField

2014-04-03 Thread Scott Morrow
Brilliant!
Thank you, Devin.
—
Scott

On Apr 3, 2014, at 8:13 AM, Devin Asay devin_a...@byu.edu wrote:

 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Scott Morrow sc...@elementarysoftware.com
 wrote:
 
 I’m trying to make a transparent “multiline” UITextField in iOS.  
 Unfortunately, it remains opaque both in the simulator and on an actual 
 device.  If I switch the style of the UITextField to “input” then it becomes 
 transparent.  I’m doing something along the lines of:
 
 mobileControlCreate multiline, pFieldName
 mobileControlSet pFieldName, rect, tRect
 mobileControlSet pFieldName, opaque, false
 mobileControlSet pFieldName, visible, “true
 
 I’m suspicious that it may be operator error since I can’t get it working 
 under the last several previous LC versions and I didn’t notice a bug 
 report. Suggestions?
 (tested with LC 6.1.3,  6.5.2,  6.6, 6.7dp1 and 6.6.1rc1 Commercial)
 
 Scott,
 
 I had puzzled over this before, too. It turns out, a little confusingly, that 
 you have to set the alpha channel on the backgroundColor rather than the 
 opaque property:
 
  mobileControlSet pFieldName, backgroundColor, 255,255,255,0
  mobileControlSet pFieldName, opaque, false
 
 I tried it with the opaque property set to both true and false; it didn't 
 seem to make any difference. In fact, it worked fine without setting the 
 opaque property.
 
 The old iOS release notes (and the current dictionary entry for 
 mobileControlSet) give a confusing description of the opaque property of 
 mobile native controls:
 
 Set to false if the control should be rendered with transparency. In 
 particular, set this control to true if you set a backgroundColor that is not 
 fully opaque.
 
 Months ago I had printed out the release notes for closer study. Next to that 
 paragraph I penciled in the comment ?. Indeed.
 
 Can anyone explain what that means?
 
 Regards,
 
 Devin
 
 
 
 
 Devin Asay
 Office of Digital Humanities
 Brigham Young University
 
 
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RE: Layout tools for LiveCode

2014-04-03 Thread Nakia Brewer
Finally someone said it..

Didn't even know that was there.. Who knows what other goodies exist

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Oh my Mangoes!

Sheesh, after all these years I did not know this? ha Thank you!

hhhm me thinks a feature request is in order... a new IDE prop show grid  as 
a default, locked layer 1 object behind everything else, that still functions 
the way the invisible one does.


J. Landman Gay wrote:


 It's built-in but invisible. In preferences, go to the Appearance pane 
 and set the grid spacing to whatever you want. In the View menu, be 
 sure Grid is selected. After that, dragging an object will snap it to 
 the nearest gridline.

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[OT] MacHeist Bundle

2014-04-03 Thread Peter Haworth
These guys put some pretty amazing deals out there but their latest one is
the best I've seen.  $20 for almost $1800 of software, 8 Apple Design Award
winners, including Xojo Desktop.  I'll probably never use a couple of them
but still great value.  Check it out at www.macheist.com
Pete
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SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
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Re: [OT] MacHeist Bundle

2014-04-03 Thread Vaughn Clement
Hi Peter

Check out this site as well:

   https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?shva=1#inbox/1452830d18570671

They offer all kinds of app bundels.

Thank you

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 These guys put some pretty amazing deals out there but their latest one is
 the best I've seen.  $20 for almost $1800 of software, 8 Apple Design Award
 winners, including Xojo Desktop.  I'll probably never use a couple of them
 but still great value.  Check it out at www.macheist.com
 Pete
 lcSQL Software http://www.lcsql.com
 Home of lcStackBrowser http://www.lcsql.com/lcstackbrowser.html and
 SQLiteAdmin http://www.lcsql.com/sqliteadmin.html
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Re: Sending mail (invisibly) from inside a Mac LC app

2014-04-03 Thread Shawn Blc
Using PHP and LiveCode together on your own server (even a shared hosting
account), you could also setup a cron job to run at certain times and have
the data automatically sent.


On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Mark Talluto use...@canelasoftware.comwrote:

 On Apr 2, 2014, at 4:33 AM, Richard Miller w...@together.net wrote:

  I am still looking into the PHP script option for corporate users.

 The PHP/LiveCode solution is completely silent, will work on both the
 internet and intranet, require no mail config on the client side.  The only
 requirement of the client is that they need to be connected to the
 internet.  You could add to the code to cache the data to be emailed and
 send it when it comes back on.


 Best regards,

 Mark Talluto
 canelasoftware.com

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Re: Change to the label property in 6.7

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Heh heh. I like that. I put it another way: “People will never change until it 
hurts not to.”

Bob


On Mar 29, 2014, at 17:21 , Richard Gaskin 
ambassa...@fourthworld.commailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

In all human affairs, change happens when the pain of changing is exceeded by 
the pain of not changing. :)

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Re: Kill a handler

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
GOD BLESS YOU SIR! How many a frustrated night I’ve spent with an unresponsive 
SQL server, waiting for it to time out so I can get on with my work!

Bob


On Mar 30, 2014, at 06:58 , Kevin Miller 
ke...@runrev.commailto:ke...@runrev.com wrote:

There is an alternative to command-. on Mac which will often, though not
always rescue you when you¹re deep in handler stack you can¹t break out of.

Get the process ID from Activity Monitor. Then run:

kill -sighup processID


E.g. if LC has PID 9382:

kill -sighup 9382


Kind regards,

Kevin

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Re: Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
It also gives you a way back from the brink of bug hell by allowing you to 
simply use the older version in case something goes horribly awry with your 
project.

Bob


On Mar 30, 2014, at 14:11 , Richard Gaskin 
ambassa...@fourthworld.commailto:ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

Larry wrote:
I think it is very weird that when I
install a newer version of LC, it keeps
all of the old versions on my
 computer.  But maybe that is by
design for some reason I don't know
about?

It's for precisely the reason we're discussing: it keeps each version separate 
so you can test and deploy with any specific version with ease and confidence.

Ideally this would help encourage testing of new versions as well.


Richard Gaskin

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Re: Dialog freezes app on Windows after sleep

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
It could be the modal nature of the dialogs. I’ve had a similar thing happen 
when going to a stack as modal. If I switch to another app and then back again, 
the controls in the modal stack are unresponsive, which made me avoid that 
technique like the plague.

Bob


On Mar 28, 2014, at 20:37 , J. Landman Gay 
jac...@hyperactivesw.commailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

It's just the built-in LiveCode ask password dialog. We've only tested on one 
machine running Windows 8, but the client says it has happened many times on 
that computer. I could put up a separate stack instead but it's easier to just 
use the dialog.

I don't have Windows 8 here to try it on but if anyone else wants to test, I'd 
love to hear what happens. Just type ask password hello in the message box 
and walk away until the computer sleeps. Then see what happens. We're using 
LiveCode 6.6, btw.

Hm...just happened to think, there was that freeze on Windows in 6.6 that got 
fixed in 6.7. I wonder if that's it.

--
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Home stack

2014-04-03 Thread Alain Farmer
Hello,

Is there still a Home stack in LiveCode ?
Are following expressions still supported ?
* go home
* edit the script of home

Anyone using revXML ?
Any gotchas that I should be aware-of ?
Are you still working with Jabber/XMPP, David Bovill ?


Thanks,
Alain Farmer
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Re: multi-line constants? (for RSA keys)

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Thanks, I think I remember what the issue was now. If you want your stacks to 
be writable, they cannot be part of the app. Is that correct? So if the 
application has the need to save things like persistent properties and such, 
you HAVE to  separate the substacks, thereby making them runnable in the IDE. 

So the only real solution it seems to me is to password protect all the 
substacks before compiling, and then write code into the stacks to prevent them 
from running if they are the topStack of themselves. 

Bob


On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:37 , J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 On 3/31/14, 10:10 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
 It was my impression that the mainstack gets*glued*  together with
 the runtime engine and is not accessible in the same way the
 substacks are, which are merely included in a subfolder or in the
 case of OS X, in the package. Is this no longer the case? Or have I
 simply misunderstood all this time?
 
 If the substacks are true substacks, they are glued to the engine the same 
 way the mainstack is. This is the standard way substacks work. All stacks in 
 a standalone are part of the same file on disk and received the same 
 protection.
 
 However, there is a checkbox in standalone settings that allows you to save 
 out substacks as separate files during the build. If you choose to do that, 
 then they are no longer substacks, they are removed from the file and turned 
 into individual document stacks. Those are the same as any other stack you'd 
 use during development and as such, they are no longer part of your app. 
 They're just loose in the folder (or in the bundle on Macs) and can be opened 
 by anyone with a copy of LiveCode, no tricks required. The scripts will be 
 obscured if the stack is password protected but everything else, including 
 properties, will be accessible because it's just a plain old stack now.
 
 So if you want the same protection you'd get in the mainstack, just make sure 
 you don't have that checkbox selected.
 
 -- 
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
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Re: how to sort lines with a $ amount

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Oh that is clever!

Bob


On Mar 31, 2014, at 20:02 , J. Landman Gay 
jac...@hyperactivesw.commailto:jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

function moneySort pItem
 if char 1 of pItem = $ then delete char 1 of pItem
 return pItem
end moneySort

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Re: very, very slow on Mac Mini

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
One thing that can cause really bad performance (but you would see this happen 
globally for all apps) is that if there are bad sectors on the hard drive, 
writes to the bad sector(s) will cause the OS to attempt to move the data to 
another and lock out the bad. This is a super high priority event, even higher 
than mouse and keyboard events, and if the procedure fails, the next time a 
write to that sector is attempted, the same thing can happen. 

I’d backup and then do some disk checking. 

Bob


On Mar 31, 2014, at 17:12 , Dr. Hawkins doch...@gmail.com wrote:

 My application performs snappily on my iMac and powerbook, both with 16gb.
 
 On the mini, though, it turns to molasses.  As in taking several seconds to
 turn a from one fairly simple card to the next, which is instantaneous in
 either the IDE or a standalone on the other two.  It's a slower machine,
 but not *that* much slower.
 
 And this was the only loaded application.
 
 -- 
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Re: Fiels as containers

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
on closeStack
  set the lastCard of this stack to the long id of this card
  save this stack
  pass closeStack
end closeStack

on openStack
  put the lastCard of this stack into theLastCard
  if theLastCard is not empty then
go theLastCard
set the lastCard of this stack to empty
  end if
  pass openStack
end openStack

DISCLAIMER: Not tested, use at your own risk. 

Bob


On Apr 1, 2014, at 15:10 , Muaadh Salih m...@soas.ac.uk wrote:

 In a simple stack of five crads  I put a field aaa to store the number of
 last card students were in  last time to retruen to it when reopining the
 stack next.
 I put in card script
 on closestack
   put the number of this card into card field aaa of card 1
 end closestack
 
 and  in the stack script
 on Openstack
   go to card ( card field aaa of card 1)
 end Openstack
 
 This works fine as long as  (I)  do not quit livecode  .
 if I colse ,quit and then click on the saved stack it goes to card one !
 always  ( livecode 6.6, 6.7, 7 and run rev 4.5)
 What went wrong  please ?!
 
 -- 
 
 All the best
 
 ​Muaadh Salih
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Re: A weird bug/occurrence

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Sounds like you are getting some kind of screen redraw bug. That being said, 
one thing that can cause controls to not be seen is if they are in a locked 
group, and having Select Grouped set to select individual controls, if you drag 
the items in a group outside the locked boundaries of that group they become 
invisible. 

Try setting Select Grouped Controls the copy all the controls on the card to a 
new card in a new stack. See if your redraw issue occurs then. If not, it’s 
something in the card or stack that is causing this. If so, then begin deleting 
one control at a time until the problem goes away. 

Bob


On Apr 2, 2014, at 15:17 , Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Just experienced this again -- downloaded LC 6.6, opened the stack, half
 the controls on the page were missing. This time I was prepared. I opened
 navigator, selected the arrow tool, and started clicking lines in
 navigator. Again, no group, no properties being changed -- navigator just
 changes the selected controls. But as I changed the selection, objects
 started popping into view as they were selected. No idea what's going on,
 submitting a bug.
 
 ...and they disappeared again.
 
 
 On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 9:10 AM, Geoff Canyon gcan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:58 PM, Guglielmo Braguglia 
 guglie...@braguglia.ch wrote:
 
 have you a fusion drive on your Mac ?
 
 
 I don't think so -- macbook pro w/retina display, straight SSD.
 
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Re: Kill a handler

2014-04-03 Thread Earthednet-wp
Actually, you can kill the process right on the activity monitor.
Bill

William Prothero
http://es.earthednet.org

 On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:37 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.com wrote:
 
 GOD BLESS YOU SIR! How many a frustrated night I’ve spent with an 
 unresponsive SQL server, waiting for it to time out so I can get on with my 
 work!
 
 Bob
 
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 06:58 , Kevin Miller 
 ke...@runrev.commailto:ke...@runrev.com wrote:
 
 There is an alternative to command-. on Mac which will often, though not
 always rescue you when you¹re deep in handler stack you can¹t break out of.
 
 Get the process ID from Activity Monitor. Then run:
 
 kill -sighup processID
 
 
 E.g. if LC has PID 9382:
 
 kill -sighup 9382
 
 
 Kind regards,
 
 Kevin
 
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Re: Screengamma

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
I wonder if they are taking advantage of color profiling now? This happened a 
whay back when Adobe introduced color correction to it’s line of products. 
Colors that looked and printed JUST FINE before, were now so incredibly off 
that old projects became unusable without major reworking. 

It may be that the images have embedded profiles that were being ignored 
before, but are now being taken into account. 

Bob


On Apr 2, 2014, at 13:25 , J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com wrote:

 Has anyone noticed a difference in screengamma in the last couple of 
 releases? I've got some images here that look darker on Mac than they did a 
 while back (not sure when it changed, but it's only a few weeks.) Setting the 
 screengamma in the message box to 2.2 fixes it, but the default 1.7 used to 
 be okay.
 
 -- 
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 HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com
 
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Re: occasional runaway control - anyone else seeing this?

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
Curious, why are all of Dave Kilroy’s emails threaded together, and everyone 
else’s replies to his posts in a completely separate thread? What are you using 
to post to the list Dave? Just curious.

Bob


On Apr 1, 2014, at 10:05 , Dave Kilroy d...@applicationinsight.com wrote:

 Quite a few times recently whilst developing on Windows (windows 7 x64) and
 using various incarnations of LiveCode (LC 6.6, 6.6.1(rc1), LC 6.7 (dp1) I'm
 getting an occasional 'runaway' behaviour.
 
 Occasionally, on one particular stack (holding quite a few controls to make
 up it's GUI) if I'm editing a group with the inspector open on the 'Size 
 Position' tab - if I click the up or down arrows on the left, top, right, or
 bottom scrolling list fields, followed within a second or so by another
 click on the same arrow - I get a 'runaway' of the control continuing to
 move in the same direction at about 1 pixel/point per second. 
 
 I'm not seeing it on LC 6.5 or 6.5.1 (or on OSX)
 
 I don't really want to file a bug about this because I can't reproduce it -
 is anyone else seeing this?
 
 Kind regards
 
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Re: Problem with building standalone

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
First thing that comes to my mind is, don’t use a release candidate in 
production. Did you keep your last gold version?

Bob


On Apr 3, 2014, at 10:53 , la...@significantplanet.org wrote:

 Approximately 20-40% of the time when I go to build a standalone, the LC IDE 
 just quits - without building.  I have to restart LC and try again.  Usually, 
 this is what happens:  I again ask to build the standalone.  LC asks if I 
 want to save my stack, even though I had just saved it before attempting to 
 build the standalone.  If I say don't save then LC usually just quits 
 again.  If I save it again, then LC usually (but not always) will go ahead 
 and build the standalone.
 
 I'm using Community 6.1.1 (rc 4) on XP Service Pack 3
 
 Thanks for any advice!
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Re: ][ANN] SoCal LiveCode User Group Meeting: April 3

2014-04-03 Thread Bob Sneidar
dam working overtime tonite. 

Bob


On Mar 27, 2014, at 08:15 , Richard Gaskin ambassa...@fourthworld.com wrote:

 The next meeting of the SoCal LiveCode User Group is coming up next Thursday, 
 April 3, in Pasadena.
 
 Details in the forum:
 http://forums.runrev.com/viewtopic.php?f=50t=19757?
 
 At each of our meetings we like to ask that folks bring something, even if 
 it's just a question.
 
 If you're bringing a presentation of any kind, it may be good to note it in 
 the Forum thread for the meeting so others can look forward to it.
 
 My contribution will be a brief tutorial on setting up shared SSH keys 
 between your client and server systems so you can securely copy files and use 
 other shell commands within LiveCode.
 
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Re: multi-line constants? (for RSA keys)

2014-04-03 Thread Peter Haworth
I think the real solution is to store persistent values in a file or a
database.

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On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Bob Sneidar bobsnei...@iotecdigital.comwrote:

 Thanks, I think I remember what the issue was now. If you want your stacks
 to be writable, they cannot be part of the app. Is that correct? So if the
 application has the need to save things like persistent properties and
 such, you HAVE to  separate the substacks, thereby making them runnable in
 the IDE.

 So the only real solution it seems to me is to password protect all the
 substacks before compiling, and then write code into the stacks to prevent
 them from running if they are the topStack of themselves.

 Bob


 On Mar 31, 2014, at 10:37 , J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com
 wrote:

  On 3/31/14, 10:10 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote:
  It was my impression that the mainstack gets*glued*  together with
  the runtime engine and is not accessible in the same way the
  substacks are, which are merely included in a subfolder or in the
  case of OS X, in the package. Is this no longer the case? Or have I
  simply misunderstood all this time?
 
  If the substacks are true substacks, they are glued to the engine the
 same way the mainstack is. This is the standard way substacks work. All
 stacks in a standalone are part of the same file on disk and received the
 same protection.
 
  However, there is a checkbox in standalone settings that allows you to
 save out substacks as separate files during the build. If you choose to do
 that, then they are no longer substacks, they are removed from the file and
 turned into individual document stacks. Those are the same as any other
 stack you'd use during development and as such, they are no longer part of
 your app. They're just loose in the folder (or in the bundle on Macs) and
 can be opened by anyone with a copy of LiveCode, no tricks required. The
 scripts will be obscured if the stack is password protected but everything
 else, including properties, will be accessible because it's just a plain
 old stack now.
 
  So if you want the same protection you'd get in the mainstack, just make
 sure you don't have that checkbox selected.
 
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Re: Problem with building standalone

2014-04-03 Thread Mark Wieder
Bob-

Thursday, April 3, 2014, 6:38:58 PM, you wrote:

 First thing that comes to my mind is, don’t use a release
 candidate in production.

That's the second and third thing that comes to my mind as well.

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Re: multi-line constants? (for RSA keys)

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 7:50 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote:

Thanks, I think I remember what the issue was now. If you want your
stacks to be writable, they cannot be part of the app. Is that
correct? So if the application has the need to save things like
persistent properties and such, you HAVE to  separate the substacks,
thereby making them runnable in the IDE.

So the only real solution it seems to me is to password protect all
the substacks before compiling, and then write code into the stacks
to prevent them from running if they are the topStack of themselves.


I think you mean mainstack. But Pete had it right. Store user data 
outside the stack somewhere.


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Re: Home stack

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 7:51 PM, Alain Farmer wrote:

Hello,

Is there still a Home stack in LiveCode ?
Are following expressions still supported ?
* go home
* edit the script of home


There's a home stack but it isn't useful to us, there's nothing much in 
there. It stores the licensing check in the commercial version, so you 
won't be able to edit the script if you're running that. I'm not sure 
how it acts in the community version, I've never looked, but I wouldn't 
be surprised if it were empty.


If you are looking for a way to keep a library of your own handlers, use 
a plugin stack that opens as a library on launch.


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Re: Kill a handler

2014-04-03 Thread J. Landman Gay

On 4/3/14, 8:29 PM, Earthednet-wp wrote:

Actually, you can kill the process right on the activity monitor.


The difference in Kevin's suggestion is that it doesn't actually kill 
the app, the command just resets everything (when it works.) I want to 
say that I can't wait to try it, but that's not exactly what I mean.


(You can also kill an app from the Dock by right-clicking with the 
option key held down.)


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Re: Home stack

2014-04-03 Thread Alain Farmer
Thanks Jacque. :-)


On Friday, April 4, 2014 12:24:52 AM, J. Landman Gay jac...@hyperactivesw.com 
wrote:
 
On 4/3/14, 7:51 PM, Alain Farmer wrote:
 Hello,

 Is there still a Home stack in LiveCode ?
 Are following expressions still supported ?
 * go home
 * edit the script of home

There's a home stack but it isn't useful to us, there's nothing much in 
there. It stores the licensing check in the commercial version, so you 
won't be able to edit the script if you're running that. I'm not sure 
how it acts in the community version, I've never looked, but I wouldn't 
be surprised if it were empty.

If you are looking for a way to keep a library of your own handlers, use 
a plugin stack that opens as a library on launch.

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