Re: Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/30/2017 04:42 PM, hh via use-livecode wrote: Let me explain that a bit simpler for readers who don't know or forgot linear/matrix algebra. Thanks. That does make sense, and I did indeed need a refresher course. -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

2017-07-30 Thread Scott Rossi via use-livecode
You can use the effectivePoints to get the points of any graphic shape, but depending on the size, your oval may produce too many points. In any event, your source oval doesn't need to be perfect. If you reference a "decent" number of points along the shape of the oval, your image will have the

Re: Points of Graphic Oval

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/30/2017 09:06 PM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode wrote: OK, so how can we generate the points of a perfect oval? How many points would you guess are in an oval? -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing

Points of Graphic Oval

2017-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
This works great: move image "word_1" to the effective points of grc "moveClue1" in 2 seconds Al ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences:

Points of Graphic Oval

2017-07-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
1) draw graphic oval name: "moveClue1" 2) create small image "word_1" move image "word_1" to the points of grc "moveClue1" in 2 seconds test: point the points of graphic "moveClue1" result: empty check dictionary: yep, oval are not among the objects with points ☹ OK, so how can we

Re: Looking for specific LiveCode Plugin

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/30/2017 07:04 PM, Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode wrote: Hi All, Does exist a LiveCode plugin (compatible with LC6/7/8/9) that warns developers about current, fixed and regression bugs in their actual LiveCode version? Release Notes is in the Help menu. -- Mark Wieder

Looking for specific LiveCode Plugin

2017-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Hi All, Does exist a LiveCode plugin (compatible with LC6/7/8/9) that warns developers about current, fixed and regression bugs in their actual LiveCode version? Also this plugin could announce about new properties, new commands and new functions, even announce about new syntax for older

Re: Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
I noticed the announcement of your conference in Livecode website: https://livecode.com/global/hermann-hoch/ Have you checked Jim Hurley stacks? http://jamesphurley.com/Revolution.html Al > These were the first two minutes of my talk > at LC Global in Nov 2017.Now I can start after that, >

Re: Build a simple app on HTML5 [WAS: Re: Build a simple app on Android]

2017-07-30 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Yes, I've been using the python server as described in the deployment guide, and it's very handy. But the real app (the one this was condensed out of) actually wants to download files from a server (that I can't add the app itself to), so for now I'm kind of stuck. Hmmm - maybe I can modify

Re: Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
Hi Al. Yes. I saw this mistake several times. The misleading thing is, TMHO, the name "transformation matrix" for [a,b,c,d,e,f] (because the listing is pairwise for columns, as you now describe, and not for rows). Let me explain that a bit simpler for readers who don't know or forgot

Re: Build a simple app on HTML5 [WAS: Re: Build a simple app on Android]

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Alex wrote: > the "same domain" limitation makes it unfeasible for me to use it > for now. You can test it with a local web server. I use this always for testing in HTML5 (e.g. using python as described in the HTML5 deployment guide of the dictionary "Testing your HTML5 app ..."). So I hope

Re: Build a simple app on HTML5 [WAS: Re: Build a simple app on Android]

2017-07-30 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Thanks Herman. I guess I'll have to wait ... the "same domain" limitation makes it unfeasible for me to use it for now. Alex. btw - while looking at that entry in the release notes (for dp8), I noticed the paragraph above it. Any guess what this is trying to say ? Additional forms of

Re: "Cascading" Object-Behaviors

2017-07-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
Yes, better to leave in place.. i.e. behavior buttons with no scripts, now assigned behavior to external file. We are using a JSON file on disk that we read in to set the stack files on start up, because with a team, things get crazy if you have this in the binary. One Caveat the PB does

Re: Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Hi Hermann, Hermann wrote: > This is not a bug, your script is wrong. > If TM is a,b,c,d,e,f then you have to d > put item 1 of pArgs into tMatrix[0,0] > put item 2 of pArgs into tMatrix[1,0] > put item 3 of pArgs into tMatrix[0,1] > put item 4 of pArgs into tMatrix[1,1] > this yields

Re: gitter

2017-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:59 am, Mark Wieder via use-livecode > wrote: > >> >> Actually, submodules actually do their job really quite well. They aren't >> ideal, but they do enforce modularity (hence the name ;)). We just need to >> get round to sorting out some

Re: Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
Al, your script is wrong. You are building the matrix in a wrong way. It is no bug! With your 'workaround' you point yourself to the lines where you did make the mistake. http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2017-July/240074.html ___

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Monte wrote: > I’m not really sure that A/B tests of the IDE is something we should be > attempting to do at all as we don’t have the resources to do it with the > number of people required to get decent data. +42 ___ use-livecode mailing list

Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
After searching the Mail List archives, the Forum and LiveCode Quality Center for another report about this bug, I found nothing and have just send a new bug report: http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20208 Al ___ use-livecode mailing list

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 6:56 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > I'm just wondering, should I wait for the A/B test sequences or just throw a > current version at him? Well there’s not much point doing A/B tests unless you have a decent size group to

Re: Build a simple app on HTML5 [WAS: Re: Build a simple app on Android]

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Alex wrote: > So I won't wait for my next question should that same simple > app work when built as an HTML5 standalone ? (9.0DP8 Indy, MacOS > 10.10.5, Chrome 59) (hint: right now, it doesn't - click on the > button, it highlights and then nothing else happens until we > get the "Page

Re: widget inclusions Linux

2017-07-30 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
On 07/30/2017 11:33 AM, Warren Samples via use-livecode wrote: I apologize if this is a known (but not to me) issue... I am finding that the BMI Calculator does not work after it has been built as a standalone in 64bit Linux in recent versions of LiveCode. (I haven't tried in any other OS.)

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread Richmond Mathewson via use-livecode
I don't believe there is anything that is "risk free". HOWEVER, I am looking to set up programming classes throughout the year starting in October, at which point I should have both: 1. Kids with NO programming experience whatsover. 2. Kids with experience in either Visual BASIC and/or C++.

Re: Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
Hi Al. This is not a bug, your script is wrong. If TM is a,b,c,d,e,f then you have to do put item 1 of pArgs into tMatrix[0,0] put item 2 of pArgs into tMatrix[1,0] put item 3 of pArgs into tMatrix[0,1] put item 4 of pArgs into tMatrix[1,1] this yields correct results. [In fact

Re: gitter

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/29/2017 03:49 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: Actually, submodules actually do their job really quite well. They aren't ideal, but they do enforce modularity (hence the name ;)). We just need to get round to sorting out some tooling (local shell scripts / git hooks) to help

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/30/17 3:32 PM, Monte Goulding via use-livecode wrote: On 31 Jul 2017, at 5:09 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode wrote: Do you need test subjects or do you need to observe them directly? I have a neighbor who would be ideal. I was thinking I could watch

Re: gitter

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Wieder via use-livecode
On 07/29/2017 03:59 PM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: I have a thick skin, I can happily ignore such grumblings; I'm not sure that's the proper response to the grumblings -- Mark Wieder ahsoftw...@gmail.com ___ use-livecode mailing

Build a simple app on HTML5 [WAS: Re: Build a simple app on Android]

2017-07-30 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
Oh wow !! How did I miss that ? Thank you ! And my apologies for wasting bandwidth on the list - I really should have known, or spotted, that. I just wish I had asked the question 3 days ago :-) So I won't wait for my next question should that same simple app work when built as an

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 5:09 am, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode > wrote: > > Do you need test subjects or do you need to observe them directly? I have a > neighbor who would be ideal. I was thinking I could watch him (with my mouth > firmly shut) and take notes

Re: "Cascading" Object-Behaviors

2017-07-30 Thread Monte Goulding via use-livecode
> On 31 Jul 2017, at 3:50 am, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode > wrote: > > "Entralled with external scripts and GIT are We" says Yoda I have implemented a scriptifier utility script if you are interested here

Matrix Multiplication bug and workaround

2017-07-30 Thread Alejandro Tejada via use-livecode
Using LC 8.1.3, I just found a bug in the Matrix Multiply function. Could you check if this bug was fixed in more recent versions of LC? Follow this recipe to reproduce this bug: 1) Create a new stack with a button, a text field and a check box named "showbug" 2) paste these two lines into the

Re: Build a simple app on Android

2017-07-30 Thread tbodine via use-livecode
Is the security external part included in your Android app? You may need that external to reach an https url. (At least that's the case for desktop apps, if I'm not mistaken.) -- Tom Bodine -- View this message in context:

Re: Doing user testing in a risk free way (Re: gitter)

2017-07-30 Thread J. Landman Gay via use-livecode
On 7/30/17 12:16 AM, Mark Waddingham via use-livecode wrote: **How can all our existing users help with our user testing? Well, the above approach has one further *really* useful aspect. For any licenses which are not marked with a test funnel (or indeed are marked with a dead test funnel) we

Re: Wait, the problem, and why it is important to solve

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
> Mark wrote: > I'm not sure relating this to RaspPi is useful. The reason is that if I > am wanting to move my Desktop app (Mac, Windows, Linux) app to HTML5 > then I'd want the performance in the browser to be within a reasonable > distance of that when on the Desktop... > ...The only way to

"Cascading" Object-Behaviors

2017-07-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
"Entralled with external scripts and GIT are We" says Yoda hence refactoring old stacks with all code in the stack/card/behavior buttons "out" to *.Livecodescript files and then assigning these "back" to the stack/card/objects OK so not wanting to mess too much with actually refactoring

Re: Parsing (scraping) OpenGraph Tags from html HEAD

2017-07-30 Thread Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
" delimiters can now be more than a single character." Hmm, that completely did not cross my mind… awesome.. On 7/29/17, 5:36 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of J. Landman Gay via use-livecode" wrote:

widget inclusions Linux

2017-07-30 Thread Warren Samples via use-livecode
I apologize if this is a known (but not to me) issue... I am finding that the BMI Calculator does not work after it has been built as a standalone in 64bit Linux in recent versions of LiveCode. (I haven't tried in any other OS.) It works as expected within the IDE but in a standalone the

Re: Build a simple app on Android

2017-07-30 Thread panagiotis merakos via use-livecode
Hi Alex, Check the internet permission in the android standalone settings. Best, Panos On 30 Jul 2017 13:01, "Alex Tweedly via use-livecode" < use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote: I'm trying to build a VERY simple app, and try it on Android. It is very simple - one Button (B_, and one field

Build a simple app on Android

2017-07-30 Thread Alex Tweedly via use-livecode
I'm trying to build a VERY simple app, and try it on Android. It is very simple - one Button (B_, and one field (F); click on the button, it downloads a URL and puts the content into the field. The script for the button consists of : on mouseUp pMouseButton localt putemptyintofld"F"

Re: Wait, the problem, and why it is important to solve

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
On 2017-07-30 11:13, hh via use-livecode wrote: Wow. You say (using stars) it would make sense to implement wait in HTML5 for some features that do _not_ (yet) work in HTML5. Will be a great enhancement side-effect. I look forward to that. I don't think that was the implication. The

Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

2017-07-30 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
> Am 30.07.2017 um 11:22 schrieb hh via use-livecode > >: > > @Matthias > "revbrowserOpenCEF" is deprecated since at least one year or so. > Also note: revBrowserInstances() doesn't work after"revbrowserOpenCEF”. >

Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

2017-07-30 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
Done. http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20206 And as the error message thing is kind of a feature request i filed a separate one http://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=20207

Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
Yes please do - also maybe mention we should make revBrowserOpenCEF throw a more appropriate error in macOS. General advice on Mac use open, on win/Linux use openCef. This will give you reasonably consistent environments on all three desktop platforms. Mark. Sent from my iPhone > On 30 Jul

Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
@Matthias "revbrowserOpenCEF" is deprecated since at least one year or so. Also note: revBrowserInstances() doesn't work after"revbrowserOpenCEF". Also note if you use revBrowserOpen: Then Mac is the only platform that supports HTML5/canvas2d. ___

Re: Wait, the problem, and why it is important to solve

2017-07-30 Thread hh via use-livecode
Wow. You say (using stars) it would make sense to implement wait in HTML5 for some features that do _not_ (yet) work in HTML5. Will be a great enhancement side-effect. I look forward to that. Peter-B already implemented wait in 2015, see bug #16076. This caused an _additional_ slow down by a

Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

2017-07-30 Thread Matthias Rebbe via use-livecode
The dictionary in 8 and 9 shows CEF as available for Win and Mac. So i will at least file a report about that. Matthias Rebbe +49 5741 31 ‌matthiasrebbe.eu ‌ > Am 30.07.2017 um 10:20 schrieb Mark Waddingham via use-livecode >

Re: CEF Browser - what is wrong with my script

2017-07-30 Thread Mark Waddingham via use-livecode
The solution here is to use revBrowserOpen. I missed the fact this is on macOS. We removed CEF on Mac in 8, as it was not possible to use CEF on Mac as a slave (for technical reasons). The system web view on Mac is still WebKit based so they are very similar. Sorry for the confusion! Mark.