Re: A poor man's app updater

[Peter Bogdanoff via use-livecode]

Hi,

To raise the issue again of updating Mac and Windows apps, I’m referencing this 
thread between Graham and Jacqueline...

Can existing files in the user’s application directory be 
saved/modified/replaced by my application?

> On Mar 18, 2018, at 12:57 PM, J. Landman Gay via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
>> - delete the current version using the facilities of the OS (just trash it 
>> from the Applications folder on a Mac, or use the Control Panel on Windows): 
>> there is no reliable way of doing this from within an LC standalone, AFAIK;
> 
> I think you'd benefit from distributing some type of installer. When the user 
> clicks the "OK" button, launch the URL of your web site where they can 
> download it. Matthias' LC installer is ready (and the signing version is 
> close to ready) so you could use that while staying within the LC 
> environment. It does all the work for you.


Can Livecode download a file and replace an existing file in the user’s 
Application package (Mac) or Program Files folder (Win), or does the OS block 
that? 

I understand that the application itself would need to be replaced by a new 
installation, but can supporting files in the same installation directory be 
replaced while the parent LC standalone is still running without then having to 
later be restarted?

Is there any news on "Matthias' LC installer”?

> 
> Users know how to use installers and many Windows users don't understand 
> anything else. There are more users than you think who don't know how to find 
> a file or where apps are stored on their drive. The OS and/or the installer 
> will manage older versions so you don't have to.
> 
>> - download and run a special “Uninstall Helper” program that gets rid of the 
>> Working Stack in the writeable area, plus preference files and the like - I 
>> don’t see any way of making this happen automatically, since logically it 
>> needs to be done **after** the main program is deleted;
> 
> Instead of a helper, I'd put some logic into your app itself. The working 
> stack would have a custom property with its current version number. The 
> standalone would check on launch if the working stack exists, and if so, if 
> its custom version property matches the one it expects. If not, overwrite the 
> existing one with the new one. The new one could either be downloaded from 
> the internet on demand, or stored as a binary in a custom property of the 
> standalone. Either way, overwriting is just a matter of putting the binary 
> content into the existing stack file path on disk.

Does this answer my updating files question? 



> 
>> - use the information given at the time of purchase to download the 
>> appropriate installer from the server;
>> - reinstall the program and input the registration data from the original 
>> purchase.
> 
> So, it sounds like you are already using an installer. If so, they're mostly 
> done. I wouldn't remove the user registration file or preferences; unless 
> it's changed there's no reason to make the user find their registration info 
> again (and many will lose or misplace it, which will increase support 
> requests.)
> 
> The short summary: The user only has to click "OK", the app quits, and the 
> user is taken to a web site to download the update installer. Once they 
> launch that and run the install, everything else is automatic. On first 
> launch, the app replaces any necessary files.
> 
> 
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> HyperActive Software   | http://www.hyperactivesw.com

Peter Bogdanoff
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Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

Names are merely abstractions.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 19:15 Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Aloha "Zryip"
>
> At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is
> maintained)
>
> I'll get it!
>
> Brahmanathaswami
>
> Ps do you have a real name?
>
> On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
> Dear Swami,
>
> We have some free material about datagrids form or table.
>
> 1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the
> very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table):
> http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials
>
> 2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities
> such
> as drag and drop, calculation, etc
> http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab
>
> 3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option
> in my
> opinion.
>
> 4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your
> question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for
> supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new  major (nothing to do
> with
> our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke
> on the
> livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June
> supporting
> dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been
> published about it, with some available screenshots of the new
> features:
> https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/
>
> Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive
> or
> not, he / she is welcome. :)
>
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
>
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Re: acceleratedRendering

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

I don't know if it would work on a iOS 12, but we has an issue with a complex 
dynamic "draw" on screen..

So we turned of acceleratedRendering  to false temporarily

Then set to back when the drawing was finish

on createWordPuzzle
   if (the acceleratedRendering of this stack is true ) then
  set the acceleratedRacceleratedRendering on createWordPuzzle
   end if
   stopTimer
   hide widget "context"
   loadNewBgImg
   [snip]

# later 

set the acceleratedRendering  of this stack to true

end createWordPuzzle


Brahmanathaswami
 

 Randy Hengst wrote:

I’ve been messing with this slowdown issue … there is a connection between 
having acceleratedRendering set to true… and my objects that move set to 
dynamic. I see the slowdown in the IDE and on the iPad. 

Using LC 9.0.1 RC1 still.

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Re: acceleratedRendering

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Next week will be fine __

Brahmanathaswami
 

On 8/2/18, 1:23 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Given it’s Friday and these patches have yet to be reviewed I very much 
doubt we will be releasing an RC 2 with them in this week. We do have a service 
providing access to nightly builds I believe but I don’t know the full details 
(cost ect) so you could contact support about that if it is of interest.

Cheers

Monte

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Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Aloha "Zryip"

At $45.00 (cheap) and with your own endorsement (knowing that it is maintained)

I'll get it!

Brahmanathaswami

Ps do you have a real name?
 
On 8/2/18, 12:01 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of zryip theSlug via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Dear Swami,

We have some free material about datagrids form or table.

1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the
very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table):
http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials

2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities such
as drag and drop, calculation, etc
http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab

3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option in my
opinion.

4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your
question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for
supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new  major (nothing to do with
our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke on the
livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June supporting
dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been
published about it, with some available screenshots of the new features:
https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/

Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive or
not, he / she is welcome. :)


Best Regards,



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Re: Using the $_POST global in LiveCode server

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Version 7.1.0 doesn't seem to work.  (the version used by on-rev.)  Pretty
sure its been in this non-working condition for a while.  (again, my faulty
memory might be wrong)   I'll try and set up a test for later versions, but
pretty sure things were still working in the 6.x range of server engines.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:03 PM Mike Bonner  wrote:

> Its been a while since I messed with sessions, but that looks right.  I
> seem to vaguely remember that there is some version of LC server where
> sessions is broken, but I can't recall for sure.  What version of server
> are you running?   (IIRC sessions was implemented some time around 4.6.3?
> And a later version was broken and later fixed)  I'll see if I can relocate
> the info.
>
> On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:53 PM Tim Selander via use-livecode <
> use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Mike.
>>
>> This seemed like a good hint/possible solution.
>> > Another though has just occurred to me also..  If you use session
>> > variables, you can store the search term in the session, and since the
>> > browser will re-post on reload, if $_POST and your session variable
>> contain
>> > the same search term, its possible (likely?) that it was a reload rather
>> > than a new search, then don't do the search. Not sure if this is
>> helpful,
>> However, when I tried
>> > start session
>> put "test" into $_SESSION["keyword"]
>> put $_SESSION[keyword]
>> stop session
>> ?>
>> and the server returned the error
>>
>> file "/home/pba/public_html/lifelinesearch.lc"
>>row 2, col 1:
>>
>> This snippet is at the very top of the page, so row 2 is "start session."
>>
>> Am I misundertanding the syntax of 'session'?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tim
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Using the $_POST global in LiveCode server

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

Its been a while since I messed with sessions, but that looks right.  I
seem to vaguely remember that there is some version of LC server where
sessions is broken, but I can't recall for sure.  What version of server
are you running?   (IIRC sessions was implemented some time around 4.6.3?
And a later version was broken and later fixed)  I'll see if I can relocate
the info.

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 5:53 PM Tim Selander via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Thanks, Mike.
>
> This seemed like a good hint/possible solution.
> > Another though has just occurred to me also..  If you use session
> > variables, you can store the search term in the session, and since the
> > browser will re-post on reload, if $_POST and your session variable
> contain
> > the same search term, its possible (likely?) that it was a reload rather
> > than a new search, then don't do the search. Not sure if this is helpful,
> However, when I tried
>  start session
> put "test" into $_SESSION["keyword"]
> put $_SESSION[keyword]
> stop session
> ?>
> and the server returned the error
>
> file "/home/pba/public_html/lifelinesearch.lc"
>row 2, col 1:
>
> This snippet is at the very top of the page, so row 2 is "start session."
>
> Am I misundertanding the syntax of 'session'?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
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Re: Using the $_POST global in LiveCode server

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Thanks, Mike.

This seemed like a good hint/possible solution.

Another though has just occurred to me also..  If you use session
variables, you can store the search term in the session, and since the
browser will re-post on reload, if $_POST and your session variable contain
the same search term, its possible (likely?) that it was a reload rather
than a new search, then don't do the search. Not sure if this is helpful,

However, when I tried

and the server returned the error

file "/home/pba/public_html/lifelinesearch.lc"
  row 2, col 1:

This snippet is at the very top of the page, so row 2 is "start session."

Am I misundertanding the syntax of 'session'?

Thanks,

Tim



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Re: acceleratedRendering

[Monte Goulding via use-livecode]

> @team-- would it possible to send a new build out this week?  Even it has 
> only this patch
> 
> It is the one thing in Android that is blocking. Everything else you have 
> accomplished on 9.0.1 is fantastic, and I really *need* get an Android 
> version that works one on Google Play asap.   So I need to get this out to 
> beta tester asap

Given it’s Friday and these patches have yet to be reviewed I very much doubt 
we will be releasing an RC 2 with them in this week. We do have a service 
providing access to nightly builds I believe but I don’t know the full details 
(cost ect) so you could contact support about that if it is of interest.

Cheers

Monte
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Re: Using the $_POST global in LiveCode server

[Mike Bonner via use-livecode]

I don't really understand what I've read yet, but I think what you're
looking for is Post/Redirect/Get (prg)  Basically.. Accept the post,
process it, redirect to another page without the post. (One example I read
basically placed the generated html into a session variable and displayed
it after the get, then cleared it from the session so that a reload
wouldn't show anything)

Lots of examples in php, not sure how to implement with lc.

Another though has just occurred to me also..  If you use session
variables, you can store the search term in the session, and since the
browser will re-post on reload, if $_POST and your session variable contain
the same search term, its possible (likely?) that it was a reload rather
than a new search, then don't do the search. Not sure if this is helpful,
and not sure how to handle the back button either.



On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 4:37 PM Tim Selander via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to change, or even delete, the $_POST[] array in LiveCode
> server? I want to clear it after my script has pulled out the info it
> needs.
>
> Or, maybe there's another way to skin the cat. I have a search page that
> returns a list of our online TV programs. But even if the page is
> reloaded, the previous search term is still "live" in the $_P, so the
> page returns the previously searched list of programs. If a user reloads
> the page, I want the page to come up with no program list until they
> enter a new search term.
>
> Any pointers?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Tim Selander
> Tokyo Japan
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Using the $_POST global in LiveCode server

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Hi,

Is it possible to change, or even delete, the $_POST[] array in LiveCode 
server? I want to clear it after my script has pulled out the info it needs.


Or, maybe there's another way to skin the cat. I have a search page that 
returns a list of our online TV programs. But even if the page is 
reloaded, the previous search term is still "live" in the $_P, so the 
page returns the previously searched list of programs. If a user reloads 
the page, I want the page to come up with no program list until they 
enter a new search term.


Any pointers?

Thanks!

Tim Selander
Tokyo Japan

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Re: New Apple iPad & Chipset

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

That’s good to hear, Brian. Did you download the 10 Frame Fill app?

be well,
randy
www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 4:33 PM, Brian Milby  wrote:
> 
> I have a new iPad and it works for me from the normal App Store. I have the 
> same model as below and am at 11.4.1.
>> On Aug 2, 2018, 2:56 PM -0500, Randy Hengst via use-livecode 
>> , wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Well, school districts around the United States are starting to get things 
>> going for new school year… and many will have new iPads… I just received 
>> this info from one district today… Has anyone else seen issues with LC apps 
>> downloading or running on the newest iPads? I don’t have one, but just 
>> ordered one to do some checking.
>> 
>> ==
>> From the IT Operations Manager:
>> I recently tired to install 10 Frame Fill on our new fleet of iPads running 
>> iOS 11.4.1 and the app keeps failing to install. I'm using an MDM with VPP 
>> licensing. Is 10 Frame Fill compatible with this new iOS?
>> ==
>> I followed up with a couple questions and asked for a bit more detail… he 
>> replied:
>> OK. Apples hardware upgrades with 3rd party apps are becoming finicky. My 
>> new devices are Model MR7J2LL/A with the new apple pencil functionality and 
>> a new 64bit chipset. I may try to recommend using one of your other apps if 
>> they work with this device. If you make any modification to your iOS apps, 
>> will the new app upgrades automatically install themselves are would I have 
>> to reinstall the/ newest version of the app?
>> ==
>> 
>> be well,
>> randy
>> www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com
>> 
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Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

[zryip theSlug via use-livecode]

Dear Swami,

We have some free material about datagrids form or table.

1. A tutorial written long time ago before I created DGH, exploring the
very basic concepts of the datagrid control (form and table):
http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/3-tutorials

2. Some demo stacks created for demonstrating datagrid's possibilities such
as drag and drop, calculation, etc
http://www.aslugontheroad.com/download/category/4-lab

3. About your screenshot, a datagrid form will be your better option in my
opinion.

4. And about Data Grid Helper, I can not answer objectively to your
question, for sure. All I can say is the tool has regular updates for
supporting the new versions of LiveCode. A new  major (nothing to do with
our friend Klaus :) (I prefer to specify because he made me the joke on the
livecode forum, haha :) )) 2.5 version has been released in June supporting
dg2 properties, widgets, custom headers, etc. A blog article has been
published about it, with some available screenshots of the new features:
https://livecode.com/data-grid-helper-2-5-adds-support-for-datagrid-2/

Now, if someone in the List want to add a comment about DGH, positive or
not, he / she is welcome. :)


Best Regards,






On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 9:29 PM, Klaus major-k via use-livecode <
use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:

> Hi Swami,
>
> > Am 02.08.2018 um 21:24 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via
> use-livecode :
> >
> > I loaded DataGrid in stack
> >
> > Now I wonder if is tool of choice for
> > http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/data-grid-candidate.png
> > There needs to alternate rows, with the "alt" row as blank and showing
> the card .?? before I go down the path:
> >
> > Yes or No  -- can data grid to this?
>
> YES! :-)
>
> > Brahmanathaswami
>
> Best
>
> Klaus
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Re: New Apple iPad & Chipset

[Brian Milby via use-livecode]

I have a new iPad and it works for me from the normal App Store. I have the 
same model as below and am at 11.4.1.
On Aug 2, 2018, 2:56 PM -0500, Randy Hengst via use-livecode 
, wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Well, school districts around the United States are starting to get things 
> going for new school year… and many will have new iPads… I just received this 
> info from one district today… Has anyone else seen issues with LC apps 
> downloading or running on the newest iPads? I don’t have one, but just 
> ordered one to do some checking.
>
> ==
> From the IT Operations Manager:
> I recently tired to install 10 Frame Fill on our new fleet of iPads running 
> iOS 11.4.1 and the app keeps failing to install. I'm using an MDM with VPP 
> licensing. Is 10 Frame Fill compatible with this new iOS?
> ==
> I followed up with a couple questions and asked for a bit more detail… he 
> replied:
> OK. Apples hardware upgrades with 3rd party apps are becoming finicky. My new 
> devices are Model MR7J2LL/A with the new apple pencil functionality and a new 
> 64bit chipset. I may try to recommend using one of your other apps if they 
> work with this device. If you make any modification to your iOS apps, will 
> the new app upgrades automatically install themselves are would I have to 
> reinstall the/ newest version of the app?
> ==
>
> be well,
> randy
> www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com
>
>
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Re: acceleratedRendering

[Andrew Bell via use-livecode]

Panos asked me to file a bug report on what I was experiencing, but I  
haven't been able to nail down the formula yet.


Simply enabling acceleratedRendering would allow my app to launch, but  
things weren't moving or responding as they should have. It does seem  
like some mouseUp messages are getting ignored, but I'm also dealing  
with screen redraw issues when moving objects and groups in time as  
well as using mobileControls (a side navigation that opens up from off  
screen and hides mobile browser).


I'm currently redesigning the navigation so I can get an update out  
the door quickly as users are already complaining about iOS 12  
compatibility. You've given me some insight into the possible problem  
so I can try to work out a proper bug report formula.


--Andrew Bell



From: Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami 
To: How to use LiveCode 
Subject: Re: acceleratedRendering
Message-ID: <5a86d6a0-88c9-4d00-b7d5-749568f74...@hindu.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

FWIW... acceleratedRendering in causing trouble on Android, 9.0.1. RC 1.

Disables "touch" messages in some contexts...

Bug report is in, confirmed.

I've struggling for 2 Years with this (!)

Now on iOS?  Yikes!

I am sure it is a priority with team. Keep fingers crossed.

BR


?On 8/1/18, 4:07 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Randy Hengst via  
use-livecode" use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:


Is there some element that goes hand-in-hand with  
acceleratedRendering that I?ve overlooked?







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New Apple iPad & Chipset

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

Hi All,

Well, school districts around the United States are starting to get things 
going for new school year… and many will have new iPads… I just received this 
info from one district today… Has anyone else seen issues with LC apps 
downloading or running on the newest iPads? I don’t have one, but just ordered 
one to do some checking.

==
From the IT Operations Manager:
I recently tired to install 10 Frame Fill on our new fleet of iPads running iOS 
11.4.1 and the app keeps failing to install.  I'm using an MDM with VPP 
licensing.   Is 10 Frame Fill compatible with this new iOS?
==
I followed up with a couple questions and asked for a bit more detail… he 
replied:
OK.  Apples hardware upgrades with 3rd party apps are becoming finicky.  My new 
devices are Model MR7J2LL/A  with the new apple pencil functionality and a new 
64bit chipset.   I may try to recommend using one of your other apps if they 
work with this device.   If you make any modification to your iOS apps,  will 
the new app upgrades automatically install themselves are would I have to 
reinstall the/ newest version of the app?
==

be well,
randy
www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com


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Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

[Klaus major-k via use-livecode]

Hi Swami,

> Am 02.08.2018 um 21:24 schrieb Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
> :
> 
> I loaded DataGrid in stack
> 
> Now I wonder if is tool of choice for 
> http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/data-grid-candidate.png
> There needs to alternate rows, with the "alt" row as blank and showing the 
> card .?? before I go down the path:
> 
> Yes or No  -- can data grid to this?

YES! :-)

> Brahmanathaswami

Best

Klaus

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http://www.major-k.de
kl...@major-k.de


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Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

I loaded DataGrid in stack

Now I wonder if is tool of choice for 

http://wiki.hindu.org/screenshots/data-grid-candidate.png

There needs to alternate rows, with the "alt" row as blank and showing the card 
.?? before I go down the path:

Yes or No  -- can data grid to this?

Brahmanathaswami
 


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Re: iOS 12 compatibility

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Wow (www.classroomFocusedSoftware.com) 

Yes great job!

Brahmanathaswami
 

 Stephen Barncard via use-livecode"  wrote:

follow the links.

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Re: $_POST[] variable?

[Richard Gaskin via use-livecode]

Tim Selander wrote:

> Is it possible to manipulate the contents of the $_Post[] global
> directly on Livecode serve?
>
> When I reload a page, the values in the array still have the values in
> them from the previous time the "Submit" button was used... efforts to
> delete or put empty into, do not seem to work.

I wonder if the problem may be that the browser is caching the result of 
the last call to the CGI?


On the server side, any CGI (whether it be LC Server, PHP, Python, or 
any other engine) is launched, executes, and dies with each request.


As such, environment variables can't help but be fresh, as the process 
is not persistent between requests.


As a diagnostic step I would use a browser's debugging tools to watch 
that request carefully.


If your API expects only LC clients without supporting generic browsers, 
the detailed logging option for libURL may be helpful, using a spare 
field to display some of the transaction details:

https://livecode.com/resources/api/#livecode_script/liburlsetlogfield

You may also consider the old trick of appending the URL with a random 
string in the non-actionable part of the URL beyond a hash tag, e.g.:


  https://someserver.com/cgi-bin/myscript.lc#123456789

...where "123456789" is the millisecs, so that each request is seen by 
libURL as unique (which I believe also works with tsNet; Charles may 
have additional guidance).


--
 Richard Gaskin
 Fourth World Systems
 Software Design and Development for the Desktop, Mobile, and the Web
 
 ambassa...@fourthworld.comhttp://www.FourthWorld.com

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Re: iOS 12 compatibility

[Stephen Barncard via use-livecode]

follow the links.

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Stephen Barncard - Sebastopol Ca. USA -
mixstream.org

On Thu, Aug 2, 2018 at 6:45 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode
 wrote:

> Hmmm. I want to see the "beautiful work" ?? that Randy has done...
>
> Brahmanathaswami
>
>
>  Stephen Barncard
>
> Beautiful work, Randy
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Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Thank Bob for the tips...

Actually this is  for a YouTube index, and all the "rows" would behave the same 
way.

The only thing changing on each row would be

1. https://i.ytimg/#/hddefault.jbg (the thumbnail) 
2. Metadata for our date base (SQlite on the mobile app) Title, description. 
Etc. appear in a field.
3. Click on a row and drives the user to a Browser by setting the YouTube as 
the HTML source.

I am starting here:

https://livecode.com/docs/9-0-0/components/livecode-data-grid/

of a course a test stack..

What do you all think of  "A Slug on the Road"  Data Grid Helper?

Brahmanathaswami
 

On 8/2/18, 4:59 AM, "use-livecode on behalf of Bob Sneidar via use-livecode" 
 wrote:

I can give you a "not to do". DO NOT send selectionChanged to a datagrid in 
the middle of processing a selectionChanged message already. This will crash LC 
to desktop. 

I have not used form style datagrids, which is what you are talking about 
methinks, but the idea is fairly simple. Instead of every row behaving exactly 
the same way, form datagrids allow each row to behave independently, as though 
they were individual "forms" stacked in a column. You change the look of the 
rows in the row behavior script, and alter the overall look of the rows by 
modifying the rowTemplate. 

In the datagrid properties window data grid tab, change the style of the 
datagrid to "Form" and the options for editing these become available. The Row 
template is just a group so you can modify it like any other group. If you edit 
the script, you can see that there are already handlers defined, like 
fillInData, layoutControl etc. And since V9 other messages that can be used are 
in the left pane of the script editor to give you some idea on what you can do. 

I would say open a new stack, drag a datagrid to it, change the type to 
Form and dig in. You cannot damage your existing project that way.  

Bob S

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Re: Getting Started with DataGrid

[Bob Sneidar via use-livecode]

I can give you a "not to do". DO NOT send selectionChanged to a datagrid in the 
middle of processing a selectionChanged message already. This will crash LC to 
desktop. 

I have not used form style datagrids, which is what you are talking about 
methinks, but the idea is fairly simple. Instead of every row behaving exactly 
the same way, form datagrids allow each row to behave independently, as though 
they were individual "forms" stacked in a column. You change the look of the 
rows in the row behavior script, and alter the overall look of the rows by 
modifying the rowTemplate. 

In the datagrid properties window data grid tab, change the style of the 
datagrid to "Form" and the options for editing these become available. The Row 
template is just a group so you can modify it like any other group. If you edit 
the script, you can see that there are already handlers defined, like 
fillInData, layoutControl etc. And since V9 other messages that can be used are 
in the left pane of the script editor to give you some idea on what you can do. 

I would say open a new stack, drag a datagrid to it, change the type to Form 
and dig in. You cannot damage your existing project that way.  

Bob S


> On Aug 2, 2018, at 07:06 , Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have stayed away from the Data Grid because of scrolling issues and the 
> complexity issues were  too much for my "baby talk xTalk brain" … but my UX 
> designer has implement a module that has index of row that include various 
> little icon and controls that will be hard to do in the old "all control 
> separate in a single group" that I have been using.  And the indexes are 
> small. So, time for DataGrid2 (has that been implemented or still pending? I 
> have not kept up with DG dev) .
> 
> I am willing to pay for the third party tools, if they are considered really 
> helpful,  and it they are maintained and up to date and have 
> "recommendations" from the community. Any thoughts on get starting, caveats?  
> Particularly what *not* to do…
> 
> Meanwhile, we are off to the on-line academy to check out the lessons….
> 
> BR

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Re: acceleratedRendering

[Randy Hengst via use-livecode]

All,

I’ve been messing with this slowdown issue … there is a connection between 
having acceleratedRendering set to true… and my objects that move set to 
dynamic. I see the slowdown in the IDE and on the iPad. 

Using LC 9.0.1 RC1 still.

The “catch” is that I haven’t been able to reproduce the same problem for a 
demo stack… so, still investigating. If anyone has a thought for something I 
can check out, please share.

be well,
randy
classroomFocusedSoftware.com

> On Aug 2, 2018, at 8:48 AM, Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode 
>  wrote:
> 
> Aloha Monte
> 
> You are wonderful! "it groups not redrawing..."
> 
> Right, it's not "touch". Though from a user perspective, suddenly "my swiping 
> doesn't work..."
> 
> And thank you for fixing the returnField error also  [Bug 18395] 
> ReturninField error on android app)
> 
> @team-- would it possible to send a new build out this week?  Even it has 
> only this patch
> 
> It is the one thing in Android that is blocking. Everything else you have 
> accomplished on 9.0.1 is fantastic, and I really *need* get an Android 
> version that works one on Google Play asap.   So I need to get this out to 
> beta tester asap
> 
> BR
> 
> PS...
> 
> would it would also be nice if get the home screen icon to load in iOS at the 
> same time, in an interim patch release. 
> 
> https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21451
> 
> On 8/1/18, 5:02 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
> use-livecode"  use-livecode@lists.runrev.com> wrote:
> 
>Yes I just patched it https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6620 
> 
> 
>> FWIW... acceleratedRendering in causing trouble on Android, 9.0.1. RC 1.
>> Disables "touch" messages in some contexts… 
> 
>^ is not a very good description of the issue. The touches are fine. It’s 
> groups not redrawing when scrolled under some circumstances.
> 
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Getting Started with DataGrid

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

I have stayed away from the Data Grid because of scrolling issues and the 
complexity issues were  too much for my "baby talk xTalk brain" … but my UX 
designer has implement a module that has index of row that include various 
little icon and controls that will be hard to do in the old "all control 
separate in a single group" that I have been using.  And the indexes are small. 
So, time for DataGrid2 (has that been implemented or still pending? I have not 
kept up with DG dev) .

I am willing to pay for the third party tools, if they are considered really 
helpful,  and it they are maintained and up to date and have "recommendations" 
from the community. Any thoughts on get starting, caveats?  Particularly what 
*not* to do…

Meanwhile, we are off to the on-line academy to check out the lessons….

BR

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Re: acceleratedRendering

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Aloha Monte

You are wonderful! "it groups not redrawing..."

Right, it's not "touch". Though from a user perspective, suddenly "my swiping 
doesn't work..."

And thank you for fixing the returnField error also  [Bug 18395] ReturninField 
error on android app)

@team-- would it possible to send a new build out this week?  Even it has only 
this patch

It is the one thing in Android that is blocking. Everything else you have 
accomplished on 9.0.1 is fantastic, and I really *need* get an Android version 
that works one on Google Play asap.   So I need to get this out to beta tester 
asap

BR

PS...

would it would also be nice if get the home screen icon to load in iOS at the 
same time, in an interim patch release. 

https://quality.livecode.com/show_bug.cgi?id=21451
 
On 8/1/18, 5:02 PM, "use-livecode on behalf of Monte Goulding via 
use-livecode"  wrote:

Yes I just patched it https://github.com/livecode/livecode/pull/6620 


>FWIW... acceleratedRendering in causing trouble on Android, 9.0.1. RC 1.
>Disables "touch" messages in some contexts… 

^ is not a very good description of the issue. The touches are fine. It’s 
groups not redrawing when scrolled under some circumstances.

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Re: iOS 12 compatibility

[Sannyasin Brahmanathaswami via use-livecode]

Hmmm. I want to see the "beautiful work" ?? that Randy has done...

Brahmanathaswami
 

 Stephen Barncard 

Beautiful work, Randy

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$_POST[] variable?

[Tim Selander via use-livecode]

Hi,

Is it possible to manipulate the contents of the $_Post[] global 
directly on Livecode serve?


When I reload a page, the values in the array still have the values in 
them from the previous time the "Submit" button was used... efforts to 
delete or put empty into, do not seem to work.


Thanks.

Tim Selander
Tokyo, Japan

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